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Man, Pusha's channeling Harlem World Mase something hard on Let Me Love You. He should be liable for royalties to bad boy. jezus. Few gems on here, the middle is pretty weak. Overall I give it a B, maybe B-.

it makes no sense to me.. it's a very cheap impersonation too..

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That Pusha BEEN channeling Mase.

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>Man, Pusha's channeling Harlem World Mase something hard on
>Let Me Love You. He should be liable for royalties to bad
>boy. jezus. Few gems on here, the middle is pretty weak.
>Overall I give it a B, maybe B-.

That was BLATANT.

After a full listen, my initial response still stands. http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2842548&mesg_id=2842548&listing_type=search#2842552

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No tracks like Alone In Vegas or some of his other great tracks but it's an album that I can play all the way through except for maybe that Kelly Rowland song and the joint with Big Sean.

I think some of the songs on Wrath of Caine (Road Runner, Millions, Only You Can Tell) were better but this joint is probably his best piece of work.

Jeezy was spitting too, hopefully he keeps it up on his next album.

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this is an enjoyable yacht rap album. I want a whole album of Suicides. Going to be interesting to see how this sounds after repeat listens.

i'm gonna rewind-

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thoughts:

had to clap at the "rhyme no more" sample. funny and pretty cool.

the inside line on "hold on." yeah. interesting to hear ye's voice in that particular fashion.

i (still) don't get the appeal of big sean.

i do get the appeal of kendrick lamar.

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>i (still) don't get the appeal of big sean.

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Man that verse stank.

This album is good when he's doing what Pusha does best. The middle section of 40 Acres to Let Me Love you is all unfortunate. Stalls the momentum he built up so well.

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>I understand. I feel like its really getting old too.

But, this post is about the album of a rapper who dabbles heavily in coke raps.

If you don't like that, then, why not just stay away from this post?

That's like going to the strip club just to get on the mic and tell niggas you can't stand strip clubs...

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.

These attention whores need to get back to their damn mirrors and twitter feeds and stay away from the boards.

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on top of the fact that coke rap is played out his rapping is forgettable and really C rate at this point in his career.

The beats are cruel summer throwaways and cruel summer sucked.

I actually liked the Clipse and even the re up gang mixtapes but at some point being the biggest coke pusher on a rap record is wack.

I know dudes real heavy in the game and you would never know it by the way they talk speak or act. This king coke dealer bullshit is trash.

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>on top of the fact that coke rap is played out his rapping is
>forgettable and really C rate at this point in his career.
>
>The beats are cruel summer throwaways and cruel summer
>sucked.
>
>I actually liked the Clipse and even the re up gang mixtapes
>but at some point being the biggest coke pusher on a rap
>record is wack.
>
>I know dudes real heavy in the game and you would never know
>it by the way they talk speak or act. This king coke dealer
>bullshit is trash.

But, speaking for myself, if the conversation don't interest me, I just withhold my participation.

And, now that you've presented your opinion on the album itself, I DO agree with you on many points. Some of the beats ARE very much Cruel Summer throwaways, especially the 2 Chainz and Sean joint. I ALSO didn't care for Cruel Summer that much myself. Felt like it could bring on a touch of ADHD with the amount of beat changes they had in them songs.

But, to the point of the whole King Coke Dealer persona, I find it entertaining, if done well. Now, with someone like Ross, I can't take the lack of metaphors, well thought out imagery, etc... That's what Push was always good at. And, I think that, for some actual pushers, there's a rush involved with living on the other side of the law and outsmarting them, etc... Those are the folks Push personifies. The cat who may never say it, but, underneath, he actually LOVES the whole process of and everyday minutiae of being a drug dealer.

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Well, since Kanye get's co-production credits so should he.. because they both basically did the same thing. (however, i'm sure Kanye did a little bit more.. studio-wise, that is)

>Well, since Kanye get's co-production credits so should he..
>because they both basically did the same thing. (however, i'm
>sure Kanye did a little bit more.. studio-wise, that is)

1. We don't know if he didn't add something to the track. Contrary to revisionist history, Kanye ACTUALLY can produce and may have added things to the track.

2. Even if Kanye just eq'd, I'm sure any new producer would happily take co-production credits not only to get on a cot damn GOOD Music release but THE COT DAMN FIRST SONG ON THE ALBUM!! Do you have ANY IDEA how HARD it is to accomplish BOTH of those feats in ONE STROKE? But, maybe you're holier than thou and would pass on that opportunity... KEEP IT REAL SON!!!

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Haha.

Hey, I agree w u. Never said he shouldn't.. Just that Joaquin is also deserving of credit (even though it seems like he doesn't want it).

With that said.. I forget the song title, but the track co-produced by Kanye and Don Cannon is HEAT. Maybe my favorite beat of 2013.

>Haha.
>
>Hey, I agree w u. Never said he shouldn't.. Just that Joaquin
>is also deserving of credit (even though it seems like he
>doesn't want it).

I'm guessing he's skraight from that acting money.

>With that said.. I forget the song title, but the track
>co-produced by Kanye and Don Cannon is HEAT. Maybe my favorite
>beat of 2013.

Numbers On The Board. Although, they're probably 'bout to get sued for that one because the cats over on whosampled unearthed the main sample. As much as I love that website, it is a sample clearinghouse's DREAM! But, it's really on the producers to step their business game up and actually clear the cot damn thing, no matter how rare you think it is or even if you're record or sample broker convinced you that you're the only person to own that record. There's normally AT LEAST five more copies floating around out there somewhere and AT LEAST one of those cats posts on whosampled.

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That's the one.

This is how Hip-Hop should be sounding in 2013.

he literally did nothing in the actual process of making/recording/engineering the music.

>he literally did nothing in the actual process of
>making/recording/engineering the music.

Of taking credit where no actual work was done, folks have gotten credit for doing much less...

Not saying it's right, but, it just is...

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this is a guy with no record company affiliation, owns no part of the company, did none of the music, did no mixing/remastering/sample-searching, etc.

He hadn't his boy's beat to Kanye.

Who would have gotten more credit for less than him if he actually claimed production credit?

>this is a guy with no record company affiliation, owns no
>part of the company, did none of the music, did no
>mixing/remastering/sample-searching, etc.
>
>He hadn't his boy's beat to Kanye.
>
>Who would have gotten more credit for less than him if he
>actually claimed production credit?

Of course it makes it much harder to provide an example. My original thought was Berry Gordy, who, from most accounts, might just listen to the final product, have no hand in the actual production of a track, and get producer credit.

Or something like Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis getting credit for Got Til It's Gone.

But, of course, those are more popular examples, but, with the nature of the music business, I'm sure that, on a lower level, cats have gotten credits for creating that conduit for the beat to be placed.

A more prescient example would be that Nigerian chick WondaGurl and how her beat got used on Crown off of MCHG but Travis Scott got a higher level of production credit than her, with WondaGurl only getting either additional or co-production credit. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Travis Scott ain't do a damn thing other than arbiter the damn deal.

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>>this is a guy with no record company affiliation, owns no
>>part of the company, did none of the music, did no
>>mixing/remastering/sample-searching, etc.
>>
>>He hadn't his boy's beat to Kanye.
>>
>>Who would have gotten more credit for less than him if he
>>actually claimed production credit?
>
>Of course it makes it much harder to provide an example. My
>original thought was Berry Gordy, who, from most accounts,
>might just listen to the final product, have no hand in the
>actual production of a track, and get producer credit.
>
He owned the company tho.

>Or something like Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis getting credit for
>Got Til It's Gone.
>
They were her production team & EP-d the album.

>But, of course, those are more popular examples, but, with the
>nature of the music business, I'm sure that, on a lower level,
>cats have gotten credits for creating that conduit for the
>beat to be placed.
>
>A more prescient example would be that Nigerian chick
>WondaGurl and how her beat got used on Crown off of MCHG but
>Travis Scott got a higher level of production credit than her,
>with WondaGurl only getting either additional or co-production
>credit. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Travis Scott
>ain't do a damn thing other than arbiter the damn deal.

don't know the details too deeply there but dude being a producer & her getting some credit would be more than you could say for Joaquin if he'd kept credit on that cut.

So far his contribution to hip-hop has been that wack faux-documentary & passing Lars' kid's track to Kanye.

As was the documentary? Didn't know that. I really thought dude had went off his rocker. Wasn't like Stones Throw ready to sign him or some other nonsense like that? Or he was doing shows with them?

Totally off-topic: They'd sign ANYTHING that's weird over there right now. Jon Wayne is trash. He LITERALLY sounds like he just started making beats and probably only got signed cause he's someone's cousin or something like that. That Dave Dub release was STRAIGHT basura. The Madlib Medicine Show series was horrible.

Totally off tangent: I'm so happy Rhymesayers didn't go that, we'll sign anything that's just slightly askew route. They hold WAY more credibility these days with me.

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'mockumentary' that was too serious to be funny & too stupid to be thought provoking.

Casey Affleck directed it.

Do yourself a favor & don't watch it, there is no value in it whatsoever.

He's back acting now, just was in The Master (the Paul Thomas Anderson film with Phillip Seymour Hoffman as a L Ron Hubbard-ish figure).

Now that movie's worth seeing, although my girl at the time I went with walked out of the theater saying 'that's the last time you pick the movie for awhile'.

It's good though & probably lends itself to repeat viewings tho I haven't done so yet.

As for Stone's Throw, I'm hard-pressed to recall the last album I really was fired up for from them.

Sorta stopped paying attention.

>'mockumentary' that was too serious to be funny & too stupid
>to be thought provoking.
>
>Casey Affleck directed it.
>
>Do yourself a favor & don't watch it, there is no value in it
>whatsoever.

That's what happens when you out artsy yourself.

>He's back acting now, just was in The Master (the Paul Thomas
>Anderson film with Phillip Seymour Hoffman as a L Ron
>Hubbard-ish figure).
>
>Now that movie's worth seeing, although my girl at the time I
>went with walked out of the theater saying 'that's the last
>time you pick the movie for awhile'.
>
>It's good though & probably lends itself to repeat viewings
>tho I haven't done so yet.

I actually will have to disagree vehemently with you on this one. That movie had a great build up but went NO WHERE. I can't blame your girl for walking out. It's just one of those type of movies where only the critics are gonna love it. I mean, there are some great scenes, but, as a whole, it goes no where and left me feeling like I wanted that last 2 hours of my life back. And, don't get me wrong, I'm the type to watch the artsy, foreign films and documentaries and all the stuff most of the critics love, but, if I need the director and the writer to EXPLAIN to me in the commentary what I was supposed to get from the film, then it's not worth the time.

With that said, both Joaquin and Philip did great acting jobs, but, WHAT WAS THE DAMN PLOT? But that's the thing with PTA films. He's normally hit or miss.

>As for Stone's Throw, I'm hard-pressed to recall the last
>album I really was fired up for from them.
>
>Sorta stopped paying attention.

Rightfully so.

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>>'mockumentary' that was too serious to be funny & too
>stupid
>>to be thought provoking.
>>
>>Casey Affleck directed it.
>>
>>Do yourself a favor & don't watch it, there is no value in
>it
>>whatsoever.
>
>That's what happens when you out artsy yourself.
>
>>He's back acting now, just was in The Master (the Paul
>Thomas
>>Anderson film with Phillip Seymour Hoffman as a L Ron
>>Hubbard-ish figure).
>>
>>Now that movie's worth seeing, although my girl at the time
>I
>>went with walked out of the theater saying 'that's the last
>>time you pick the movie for awhile'.
>>
>>It's good though & probably lends itself to repeat viewings
>>tho I haven't done so yet.
>
>I actually will have to disagree vehemently with you on this
>one. That movie had a great build up but went NO WHERE. I
>can't blame your girl for walking out. It's just one of those
>type of movies where only the critics are gonna love it. I
>mean, there are some great scenes, but, as a whole, it goes no
>where and left me feeling like I wanted that last 2 hours of
>my life back. And, don't get me wrong, I'm the type to watch
>the artsy, foreign films and documentaries and all the stuff
>most of the critics love, but, if I need the director and the
>writer to EXPLAIN to me in the commentary what I was supposed
>to get from the film, then it's not worth the time.
>
>With that said, both Joaquin and Philip did great acting jobs,
>but, WHAT WAS THE DAMN PLOT? But that's the thing with PTA
>films. He's normally hit or miss.
>
I thought the plot was pretty simple:

-tortured/battle-scarred soul adrift, finds direction/purpose via meglomaniacal leader/savior figure who is able to seek out those people for his own purposes

-once the subject gets a longer look behind the curtain Wizard-of-Oz style he realizes that isn't it either

-pupil forced to get over the hurt of another façade crumbling and/or the feeling that he'd been used/deceived

-he embraces a more world-weary cynical viewpoint, by the final scene he's now exploring how to make his old teacher's line of bullshit work for him.

That felt clear to me, I don't think the 'vision' or dogma espoused by the group he joined was ever really all that important or supposed to be.

The plot is basically just those three acts each reflecting a different stage in one man's mindstate: abandonment, salvation, acceptance

Not to mention it looks incredible, has a style all its own, is incredibly acted and there are some tremendously memorable and/or affecting scenes along the way.

I actually thought this was his strongest & most direct flick since Boogie Nights.

But if the scenes/look/feel/character-study-and-interplay doesn't entertain you as a viewer than the 'plot' isn't going to hold water (no pun intended for a movie so steeped in maritime/ship-at-sea/navigational coordinate imagery) for you.

I only saw it in the theater, just even thinking about it for a few minutes here again in typing this out made me realize I'm up for a re-watch.

>>As for Stone's Throw, I'm hard-pressed to recall the last
>>album I really was fired up for from them.
>>
>>Sorta stopped paying attention.
>
>Rightfully so.
>

>I thought the plot was pretty simple:
>
>-tortured/battle-scarred soul adrift, finds direction/purpose
>via meglomaniacal leader/savior figure who is able to seek out
>those people for his own purposes

Okay, but what was he tortured by or from? There really was no background story to his mania, as far as I can remember.

>-once the subject gets a longer look behind the curtain
>Wizard-of-Oz style he realizes that isn't it either

I wouldn't particularly say he came to that conclusion on his own volition. The son had to really put him on. He was all in before that moment.

>-pupil forced to get over the hurt of another façade crumbling
>and/or the feeling that he'd been used/deceived

I forgot what it was that got him kicked out of the group or exactly what was the reason for him leaving, but, I don't remember Joaquin's character being any kind of truthseeker. More of a troublemaking wayward soul who just happened to luck up on someone who was willing to invest time in him and his idiosyncrasies.

And, honestly, out of everyone affiliated with that cult, I'd say Joaquin's character was the least taken advantage of. Hoffman's character seemed to truly care about him and his well being.

>-he embraces a more world-weary cynical viewpoint, by the
>final scene he's now exploring how to make his old teacher's
>line of bullshit work for him.

THAT part I don't remember. I remember him going back to visit Hoffman and I know he had got into a relationship with some chick, but, I don't remember there being any kind of awakening or aha moment or anything like that. I'll have to rewatch to see if maybe I missed it because of my disappointment with the film by that juncture.

>That felt clear to me, I don't think the 'vision' or dogma
>espoused by the group he joined was ever really all that
>important or supposed to be.

Well, wasn't as clear to me. And, I never really felt the dogma was that important either. To me, the main thing was Hoffman and Phoenix's relationship, where it kind of came off slightly homoerotic at times.

>The plot is basically just those three acts each reflecting a
>different stage in one man's mindstate: abandonment,
>salvation, acceptance

Not saying that those things can't be true, because films, like art, are meant to be interpreted differently by each viewer, but I DEFINITELY did not get any of those things, especially not the abandonment part. If he was abandoned in any way, it was by his own choosing.

>Not to mention it looks incredible, has a style all its own,
>is incredibly acted and there are some tremendously memorable
>and/or affecting scenes along the way.

It is shot very well. I'll give you that, along with the acting, but, I don't truly find it's style all that too unique. When I think of unique, I think of something like Enter The Void or City of God or something else that's genre defining or at least makes a unique statement visually that others copy. But, maybe my standards are just different.

>I actually thought this was his strongest & most direct flick
>since Boogie Nights.

Haven't seen much of his more recent output. Still need to watch There Will Be Blood, which I think should be good.

>But if the scenes/look/feel/character-study-and-interplay
>doesn't entertain you as a viewer than the 'plot' isn't going
>to hold water (no pun intended for a movie so steeped in
>maritime/ship-at-sea/navigational coordinate imagery) for
>you.

The scenes WERE entertaining to me and I did find it visually pleasing, but, that, along with the great acting, is where it stops. It's just missing that important piece of good plot. And, it's not like totally confusing like a Mulholland Drive or anything like that, but, it just kind of fizzles out without truly tying up any kind of loose ends or giving the entire journey of watching it any purpose. It was kind of like driving somewhere only to turn right back around and not even get out the car when you get there. That type of feeling.

>I only saw it in the theater, just even thinking about it for
>a few minutes here again in typing this out made me realize
>I'm up for a re-watch.
>

I know they're already planning to give it a bunch of awards at the Oscars this year. Hoffman deserves a nod, but that's about it. I don't see it winning Best Film or Director or anything like that. If it does, I'll be there scratching my head.

I'm all about indie films and the artsy stuff, but, don't drag me along for no reason, which this film does.

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>>I thought the plot was pretty simple:
>>
>>-tortured/battle-scarred soul adrift, finds
>direction/purpose
>>via meglomaniacal leader/savior figure who is able to seek
>out
>>those people for his own purposes
>
>Okay, but what was he tortured by or from? There really was
>no background story to his mania, as far as I can remember.
>
he just got back from a war.

>>-once the subject gets a longer look behind the curtain
>>Wizard-of-Oz style he realizes that isn't it either
>
>I wouldn't particularly say he came to that conclusion on his
>own volition. The son had to really put him on. He was all
>in before that moment.
>
I'm not even remembering the part you're referring to since it's been awhile since I've seen it but it was happening at least from their arrest if not before.

>>-pupil forced to get over the hurt of another façade
>crumbling
>>and/or the feeling that he'd been used/deceived
>
>I forgot what it was that got him kicked out of the group or
>exactly what was the reason for him leaving, but, I don't
>remember Joaquin's character being any kind of truthseeker.
>More of a troublemaking wayward soul who just happened to luck
>up on someone who was willing to invest time in him and his
>idiosyncrasies.
>
that's fine either way.

>And, honestly, out of everyone affiliated with that cult, I'd
>say Joaquin's character was the least taken advantage of.
>Hoffman's character seemed to truly care about him and his
>well being.
>
they do sorta make that a murky area because there's probably some truth to both.

>>-he embraces a more world-weary cynical viewpoint, by the
>>final scene he's now exploring how to make his old teacher's
>>line of bullshit work for him.
>
>THAT part I don't remember. I remember him going back to
>visit Hoffman and I know he had got into a relationship with
>some chick, but, I don't remember there being any kind of
>awakening or aha moment or anything like that. I'll have to
>rewatch to see if maybe I missed it because of my
>disappointment with the film by that juncture.
>
The last scene where he pulls the chick & has her in bed with him, then starts doing some of those questionare-esque-exercises old boy had used on him.

>>That felt clear to me, I don't think the 'vision' or dogma
>>espoused by the group he joined was ever really all that
>>important or supposed to be.
>
>Well, wasn't as clear to me. And, I never really felt the
>dogma was that important either. To me, the main thing was
>Hoffman and Phoenix's relationship, where it kind of came off
>slightly homoerotic at times.
>
definitely.

>>The plot is basically just those three acts each reflecting
>a
>>different stage in one man's mindstate: abandonment,
>>salvation, acceptance
>
>Not saying that those things can't be true, because films,
>like art, are meant to be interpreted differently by each
>viewer, but I DEFINITELY did not get any of those things,
>especially not the abandonment part. If he was abandoned in
>any way, it was by his own choosing.
>
abandonment is the PTSD state that he's in at the beginning of the movie, salvation is the cult, acceptance is him breaking away & coming to terms with things on some level at the end.

>>Not to mention it looks incredible, has a style all its own,
>>is incredibly acted and there are some tremendously
>memorable
>>and/or affecting scenes along the way.
>
>It is shot very well. I'll give you that, along with the
>acting, but, I don't truly find it's style all that too
>unique. When I think of unique, I think of something like
>Enter The Void or City of God or something else that's genre
>defining or at least makes a unique statement visually that
>others copy. But, maybe my standards are just different.
>
>>I actually thought this was his strongest & most direct
>flick
>>since Boogie Nights.
>
>Haven't seen much of his more recent output. Still need to
>watch There Will Be Blood, which I think should be good.
>
I liked this better even though There Will Be Blood tends to get more praise due to its literary underpinnings, Daniel-Day Lewis' scenery-chewing, large chunks of movie without dialogue, Johnny Greenwood's nails-on-a-chalkboard/awkward-ass-score/oh-but-oh-wait-he's-in-radiohead-we-love-it, etc.


>>But if the scenes/look/feel/character-study-and-interplay
>>doesn't entertain you as a viewer than the 'plot' isn't
>going
>>to hold water (no pun intended for a movie so steeped in
>>maritime/ship-at-sea/navigational coordinate imagery) for
>>you.
>
>The scenes WERE entertaining to me and I did find it visually
>pleasing, but, that, along with the great acting, is where it
>stops. It's just missing that important piece of good plot.
>And, it's not like totally confusing like a Mulholland Drive
>or anything like that, but, it just kind of fizzles out
>without truly tying up any kind of loose ends or giving the
>entire journey of watching it any purpose. It was kind of
>like driving somewhere only to turn right back around and not
>even get out the car when you get there. That type of
>feeling.
>
>>I only saw it in the theater, just even thinking about it
>for
>>a few minutes here again in typing this out made me realize
>>I'm up for a re-watch.
>>
>
>I know they're already planning to give it a bunch of awards
>at the Oscars this year. Hoffman deserves a nod, but that's
>about it. I don't see it winning Best Film or Director or
>anything like that. If it does, I'll be there scratching my
>head.
>
The Oscars for which it was a candidate already came & went.

It didn't even get nominated for Best Picture or Best Director.

Hoffman got a nod for Supporting, Phoenix for Lead, Adams for Supporting Actress.

To me it was better than Argo or Silver Linings Playbook pretty damn easily but this wasn't a movie I'd expect to take home those kind of awards.

>I'm all about indie films and the artsy stuff, but, don't drag
>me along for no reason, which this film does.
>
respectfully & wholeheartedly disagree, this one to me told a story, was well acted, beautifully shot & had emotional layers/depth to it.

I look forward to seeing it again.

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high expectations from push and he definitely delivered

Hudson Mohawke didn't deliver. cotdam that beat was weak
also the sequence.. i wouldnt put sweet serenade after numbers

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I mean it's just a Deeper Than Rap beat really but I guess I feel like it's actually been a while since we've had one of those. Most of the opulent stuff is a little harder edged nowadays. And the actual drums are a nice touch.


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>Hudson Mohawke didn't deliver. cotdam that beat was weak
>also the sequence.. i wouldnt put sweet serenade after
>numbers

It seems like whoever mixed that track high passed the entire beat, taking away all of the low end, maybe to get Ross' voice to fit better in the track.

Bad choice.

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>Hudson Mohawke didn't deliver. cotdam that beat was weak
>also the sequence.. i wouldnt put sweet serenade after
>numbers

I think they just went mixtape mentality and just threw the songs together in any order.

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enjoying it..

But can't understand why they left out Blocka and Exodus (for let me love)

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I still need the Thornton brothers together but at least Ab Liva shows his face and this has some really good songs on here, minus Pusha's Mase impression and the Dream joint.

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Millions, Doesn't Matter and Blocka for this album

it would have been nice to have instead of let me love you

i did chuckle when i heard that flow though lol

generally I'm just against the propsect 'cause I want my memory to always know how I felt about an album, but...Those first five songs have me feeling like this is so close to MY rap album of the year, definitely fucking with Chance and Run the Jewels...and then all of a sudden it's like I don't REALLY care at all until "SNITCH".


You replace those middle four songs with Wrath of Caine's opening four tracks (not counting the intro) and you've got 2013's undisputed gangsta crown.

Throw "Trust You" in for the love song if you want. 'Cause that song is divine.


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>generally I'm just against the propsect 'cause I want my
>memory to always know how I felt about an album, but...Those
>first five songs have me feeling like this is so close to MY
>rap album of the year, definitely fucking with Chance and Run
>the Jewels...and then all of a sudden it's like I don't REALLY
>care at all until "SNITCH".

I gave it a go a couple of posts down from this one. Also, what's "Chance"?

>You replace those middle four songs with Wrath of Caine's
>opening four tracks (not counting the intro) and you've got
>2013's undisputed gangsta crown.

Gotta go back and check them out and see what you're talking about.

>Throw "Trust You" in for the love song if you want. 'Cause
>that song is divine.

Is this just a random song that leaked?

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it sort of had the same effect this one did where the second half underwhelmed compared to the first but the beats didn't feel as Pusha T, they were more typically trap music stuff.


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>it sort of had the same effect this one did where the second
>half underwhelmed compared to the first but the beats didn't
>feel as Pusha T, they were more typically trap music stuff.

That's exactly what I hated about it. Pusha and trap don't particularly mix well. But, I'll take your advice and revisit.

But, imagine if My God, Blocka and Alone In Vegas weren't released before this album and were actually on the tracklist rather than some of this lackluster fodder. We'd have a cot damn classic on our hands.

So, that's really my beef with Push. He CAN make great music. He's just not consistent enough with it.

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>So, that's really my beef with Push. He CAN make great music.
>He's just not consistent enough with it.


And I hate agreeing with okps

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>>So, that's really my beef with Push. He CAN make great music.
>
>>He's just not consistent enough with it.
>
>
>And I hate agreeing with okps

And, although I AM an OKP, I like to think of myself as not OF OKP, if that makes any sense..

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Maybe my expetations was a little to high off the bat since we hares some of the High lights over the last moths - but after spinning it the last cuople of days ... And it delivers .. Push is rappin his ass off

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quality starts to taper off reaching a low point, as expected, with the kelly rowland joint. the last 4 songs are good (except that big sean verse smh)

surprisingly, neither the future nor chris brown features really sound like singles. honestly, no regrets is the only one that sounds like it could gain even a little traction to me.

he isn't good outside his chosen lane, I'm not one of those that thinks he should find other shit to rap about
not against it but the attempts weren't convincing

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He just doesn't have anything interesting to say, and he's boring when he's running an entire song. His best moments are in a group setting or as a guest spot (IE his verse on "New God Flow")

outside the odd Ma$e imitation joint.

agreed tho, this ain't gonna really add up to much as an album long-term.

i never do that

it's a pretty good actual debut (if we're not counting that "let us pray" joint or w/e it was called)

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is this better than his mixtapes were? As a big Clipse fan throughout middle/high school I gotta say that he has disappointed the fuck out of me in the past...the song with Kendrick and "King Push" are dope though, going to listen to this album eventually once I get through some other shit

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so the album didn't disappoint me too much. its cool. he needs big bro though.

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The mixtapes had some tracks on them that were good, but they were mostly forgettable.

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Like they REALLY went for the clean, Dre Chronic 2001 sound but it took out the energy from the album.

LIke, Hold On should go HARD, but, due to the mix, it comes across soft as Antoine Dodson pillow fighting with Ross Mathews. Ironically, that's the first Ross verse I've liked in SOME time.

Even the mix on Numbers on the Board sounds much softer than the original mix I heard.

"Sweet Serenade" ESPECIALLY suffers from this sound choice because that song would have been much better if they let the subs ring out more rather than focusing on the punch of the kick.

I will say that whoever re-mixed Pain did a STUPENDOUS job. The percussion elements now take the forefront and make the song way more aggressive than it originally sounded. Would have done better work as a single with that mix. It just needed something else on the chorus to make that portion more tense. Like, maybe Pusha letting go of some "woos" and "aaahs" or something like that.

I also think it should have been earlier on in the sequence. Like, 3 or 4.

Also, whoever actually produced "King Push" (I think Joaquin said it was his friends son) totally took Hudson's style and ran with it. Why not just give Hudmo another track on the album and give him his COT DAMN MONEY?

I also really liked Kanye's crooning on Hold On. Seems like he's gotten the hang of the autotone effect or has been taking voice lessons so it doesn't sound as harsh.

Then, of course there are the tremendous missteps with songs like "Let Me Love You" (the extreme Mase impersonation was not necessary, but, maybe the label was forcing him to make a radio single and he just wanted to do it sarcastically), "Who I Am" (No 2 Chainz When San Francisco is over and I think Big Sean has ran out of ideas; also, those random ass beat changes OBVIOUSLY show that that track is a leftover from Cruel Summer; I hated that about that album), and "40 Acres" (if you're gonna do a ballad type track, make a good one; a sample might have been better basis for that track; also, that whole making a beat and lowpassing it WAS cool about a year ago, now it just sounds dated).

From my initial pass of the album, I'd have to give the album a 6/10, mainly because Pusha really isn't saying anything interesting. And, that's not because of his drug dealer narrative. I tend to mostly like his narratives, but, for some reason, none of them really seem to HIT like they once used to. And, I think that might have to do with some of the beats being too busy. On "Numbers On The Board" and "Nostalgia", his punchlines hit harder because the beat isn't getting in the way of the impact of his words.

I think Don Cannon and Nottz are the two producers that seem to best fit Pusha's style, along with MAYBE a few Kanye and NO ID collabos here or there.

Also, the Pharrell beats are VERY disappointing. Maybe he's distracted with trying to be a superstar.

If it was me, and if you want to enjoy actually listening to this album, I'd recommend this sequencing:

1. King Push
2. Numbers On The Board
3. Nostalgia
4. Pain
5. Sweet Serenade
6. Hold On
7. No Regrets (bonus track)
8. Suicide (bonus track)

All I did was cut the fat and actually put the songs in an order that makes SENSE. And, if they had gotten a quality DJ to do some proper fades and blends into each progressive song (exempting the bonus tracks, of course), this album would play very well.

I REALLY like "No Regrets", but, I just doesn't fit the feel of the rest of the album, unfortunately.

With those tracks in THAT sequence, he would have had one of the best EP releases this year AND a perfect album for riding to the club with. And, it would have been a perfect setup of much better full length in the upcoming future.

Give that sequence a try and let me know what ya'll think...

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But, I like to live by Dr. Dre's theory: "It's not that we don't make wack music. It's just that you won't ever hear it."

I don't believe in the Madlib and Blu theory of just putting EVERYTHING out there.

Also, I saw in your post when the album snippets were put up on Itunes, you caught the Cruel Summer leftover feel of Who I Am too. Good ear. I'm so happy that sound didn't catch on.

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>But, I like to live by Dr. Dre's theory: "It's not that we
>don't make wack music. It's just that you won't ever hear
>it."

that would be a nice theory if "i need a doctor" never happened

>>But, I like to live by Dr. Dre's theory: "It's not that we
>>don't make wack music. It's just that you won't ever hear
>>it."
>
>that would be a nice theory if "i need a doctor" never
>happened

n/m

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Although there's nothing wrong with a "clean" sounding album....but it shouldn't sacrifice the grimyness. That's the issue I had with Fear of God II

I would just add in some the mixtape tracks to make it perfect...

Wrath of Caine intro (MNIMN is lacking a good intro)
Doesn't matter
Alone in vegas
Take my life
Blocka
I am forgiven
Cook it down
Open your eyes