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"The Roots and Elvis Costello "Wise Up Ghost!" review thread"


          

Since reviews are published (and it finally leaked,) why don't we use this thread to share reviews?

  

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NPR stream:
Sep 08th 2013
1
Before I listened I thought the recycling would bother me
Sep 08th 2013
2
almost finished my first listen to the npr stream.
Sep 09th 2013
3
FUCK ...
Sep 09th 2013
4
Thought tweeted that he is on the remix of the single...
Sep 09th 2013
10
      cool.
Sep 09th 2013
11
      Fucketh Yeah!
Sep 10th 2013
14
Is it really a Roots album without BT?
Sep 09th 2013
5
yes.
Sep 09th 2013
6
They're a whole band though, it's not really the same
Sep 09th 2013
9
I definitely found myself wishing Black Thought would pop up
Sep 09th 2013
8
It's got a good beat and you can dance to it.
Sep 09th 2013
7
this is funky as hell
Sep 09th 2013
12
enjoying this
Sep 10th 2013
13
chorus on sugar won't work >>>>>>>>>>>
Sep 10th 2013
15
Hmmm...Elvis sounds better than he has in a while.
Sep 11th 2013
16
Link to review from UltimateClassicRock.com by Michael Gallucci
Sep 14th 2013
17
my review (excerpt)
Sep 17th 2013
18
Anyone else peep the quest only and Elvis promo?
Sep 18th 2013
19
it's clearly the entire band on the album (minus thought).
Sep 18th 2013
22
this is dope to me. mad soulful and groove-y.
Sep 18th 2013
20
what is the original sample on Come The MEANTIMES?
Sep 18th 2013
21
RE: what is the original sample on Come The MEANTIMES?
Jan 13th 2014
29
It's not in the Wiki, but many others are
Jan 13th 2014
30
      RE: It's not in the Wiki, but many others are
Jan 13th 2014
31
           Steve Mandel posted that last year :)
Jan 13th 2014
32
I really like it
Sep 19th 2013
23
i love the strings.
Sep 19th 2013
24
Somewhat of a postjack
Sep 19th 2013
25
dame shame this doesn't get an anchor
Sep 20th 2013
26
Album is dope to me ...
Sep 23rd 2013
27
best Roots album since TFA
Dec 27th 2013
28
i must not like costello cuz i can't even get through this album
Jan 14th 2014
33

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1. "NPR stream:"
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http://www.npr.org/2013/09/08/219316721/first-listen-elvis-costello-the-roots-wise-up-ghost?sc=tw&cc=twmp

"Yes I see all the nummmberrs... I still root for the dreeeamerrs... I thank God for the dreeeamerrs..." - Mos

  

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2. "Before I listened I thought the recycling would bother me"
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Sun Sep-08-13 11:40 PM by TomWaitsInOkkervil

  

          

But the stuff they picked deserved to be re-contextualized (and wouldn't even be recognized by casual fans), and the completely new material is top notch, great lyrics from Costello as usual. The Roots did a great job, because on one side there are some new sounds for Costello, but at the same time it suits him and recalls his past work. The result is that he sounds fresher than he has in a while, at least since the Delivery Man, maybe even When I Was Cruel.

  

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3. "almost finished my first listen to the npr stream."
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wise up ghost is pretty damn terrific.

i just wish black thought was involved.

  

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4. "FUCK ..."
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Mon Sep-09-13 10:46 AM by QBoogie

  

          

.... that's the second time I'm reading that. The first single sounds like something Thought would rip to shreds.


Fuck that, after hearing some of the tracks on NPR the next Roots solo album better have joints like this with BT on it. This album is nice and I never fucked with Costello before.

  

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10. "Thought tweeted that he is on the remix of the single..."
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11. "cool."
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14. "Fucketh Yeah!"
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5. "Is it really a Roots album without BT?"
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What if Premo had used the Gangstarr name
on all of his production?

  

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6. "yes."
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9. "They're a whole band though, it's not really the same"
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8. "I definitely found myself wishing Black Thought would pop up"
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Mon Sep-09-13 05:33 PM by TomWaitsInOkkervil

  

          

For good reasons, not because it's really lacking as it is

  

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7. "It's got a good beat and you can dance to it."
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12. "this is funky as hell "
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13. "enjoying this"
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a solid roots production. their signature is all over this.

not too familiar w elvis costello's discography so unable to compare. but i like what i'm hearing from him.

overall a bit heavy on the uptempo tracks maybe. instead, a few mid tempo jams would've been appreciated.

aside from that,

well done.

  

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15. "chorus on sugar won't work >>>>>>>>>>>"
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16. "Hmmm...Elvis sounds better than he has in a while."
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I don't know about the production though.

As usual...his songwriting misses the character that Steve Nieve (keys), Bruce Thomas (bass) & Pete Thomas (drums) added to HIM & HIS SONGWRITING.

I'm not crazy about the drums...might be a little too "sloppy" for the concise narratives that Declan usually shadow boxes his narratives against:

(see: strict time, shabby doll, black & white world, uncomplicated, etc.)

The Roots...(read that ?uestlove on drums) employ the same brilliant box of earth toned crayons that they've been quietly riding in the right lane of the music industry since day one.

James Poyser is ?uestloves most important collaborator next to Black Thought.

The problem here is...unless challenged by a producer/collaborator like Jay Dee or an artist like D'angelo who's artistic vision always meets at a crossroads with ?uestlove's musical comfort zone, the outcome always seems to go flat (for me) around the 3rd or 4th song when you realize that the drums throughout the album aren't really going to change much...meaning the mid-tempo tracks end up blurring together in the snap and crunch of hi-hats and snares (see the last couple of albums by the Roots.

Am I hating?

#NAW_DOGG

This unfortunately ends up in that pile of things ?uestlove does while trying with all his might to make the things that really matter to him (D'angelo's return) matter.

(see: Betty Wright, Al Green, John Legend albums)

This record could've been recorded in a marathon session between tapings of Fallon...illustrating how ?uestlove is the musical production version of Hank from "Breaking Bad", forensically reconstructing each artists career ethos and flavoring it with his own Hip Hop Band/DEA/Tonight Show/Soulquarian/Jay-Z musical director position.

This album would've been more interesting as a straight duo project between ?uest and Elvis, forcing Elvis to inject more of his playing alongside ?uestlove's "groove merchant" repurposed breakbeat science.

But like I said...I'm not mad.

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17. "Link to review from UltimateClassicRock.com by Michael Gallucci"
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He does give the album a rating of 7 out of 10.
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/elvis-costello-roots-wise-up-ghost/





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18. "my review (excerpt)"
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With many people excited for the new collaboration album between Elvis Costello and The Roots, there were others who seemed to be a bit confused, as if mixing up musical influences in 2013 is something weird and bizarre. Let’s not forget that a few years ago, mash-ups were the it thing to do and hear, so if someone wanted to mix up Slayer with Conway Twitty, this was okay. Yet you do something that mixes things up in “real life” and “oh no, this is beyond anything that could happen, because it offends me”. Maybe that’s why the title is called "Wise Up Ghost" (Blue Note) because they’re telling you to wise up, and as for the ghost? Look in the mirror. Boo, you’re Casper.

You may read the rest here:
http://www.thisisbooksmusic.com/2013/09/17/review-elvis-costello-the-roots-wise-up-ghost/



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19. "Anyone else peep the quest only and Elvis promo?"
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I keep getting a quest and them other dudes vibe (thought included)
If this was a group effort, why not have the entire band in the entire pics?

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22. "it's clearly the entire band on the album (minus thought)."
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and quest is the best known member of the roots.

and their engine, after all.

  

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20. "this is dope to me. mad soulful and groove-y."
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21. "what is the original sample on Come The MEANTIMES?"
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is that originally from Lovage? i think i hear Mike Patton's voice in there.

  

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29. "RE: what is the original sample on Come The MEANTIMES?"
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did you find out what the sample is? its doing my head in!

  

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30. "It's not in the Wiki, but many others are"
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http://www.elviscostello.info/wiki/index.php/Wise_Up_Ghost_samples_and_quotes

  

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31. "RE: It's not in the Wiki, but many others are"
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worked out what it is now... meyhem lauren also used it on peace dad (theglasshouse) dope sample

  

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32. "Steve Mandel posted that last year :)"
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http://telly.com/19YSPWU

  

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23. "I really like it"
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Sugar Won't Work is my shit

Overall, there might be TOO much Fischer string work, but otherwise it's really good, even without Thought on it

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24. "i love the strings."
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25. "Somewhat of a postjack"
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It just occurred to me that this album, as well as the Betty Wright and John Legend albums, weren't co-released on Def Jam or even IDJMG. Collabos like 'Watch the Throne' and 'Distant Relatives' shared their artists' respective labels.

Does anyone know how this works? Could the absence of Thought as the lead vocalist on these albums as a lead (he was listed as a feature on one Legend track) be a part of this equation?
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26. "dame shame this doesn't get an anchor"
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But drake and other albums do

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27. "Album is dope to me ..."
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... kinda got a vibe that Questo passed EC a Sandwich Beat Tape, Costello wrote to it, they got in the lab and cleaned it up and sprinkled some magic on top. BT should be on Walk, and the Meantimes tracks AT LEAST, however I still enjoy the album very much so.

  

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28. "best Roots album since TFA"
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and I'm mostly referring to how the band sounds

?uest bodied this album

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33. "i must not like costello cuz i can't even get through this album"
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