Might be a bit hard to explain, but....I have mentioned a few times on Twitter, and to people I know, that Upbeat R&B made for "the club" is basically dead. To me, I think it's extremely important to R&B and to Black music.

I can't pinpoint what year it happened, because it was extremely gradual. I feel like from NJS on, upbeat R&B was dependent on a Rap type groove 90% of the time....but we have still seen tracks like Maxwell "Ascension," Aaliyah "Rock the boat," Goapele "Closer," and more recently Beyonce "Love on top" and "Adorn" that just have a R&B feel to them more so than Rap.

What I realized is that some people tend to complain when DJ's play 90's R&B or early/mid 2000's R&B during the "early vibe" part of the night...the 10PM-11PM or so, where we're usually advised to play R&B and light Rap. I tend to get a complaint maybe 1-2 times a year, on some "you're playing all old stuff, is it 90's night?" "can you play something a bit more modern?"

Last week, I went through all of my music, and realized...there really aren't many upbeat R&B tracks that people recognize...and even the ones that us music heads know aren't always strong enough to work for a commercial type crowd. And a major reason is that there's no go-to sound that really works right now. Most trendy R&B club type songs that are 65-75 BPM are just....bland, and sound forced to me.

So in your opinion..what sound for R&B do you think is up next, if there is one? Are there any songs that you think should be bigger, or songs that have a blueprint that you think could work?

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But not trying to sound like what they were doing. Making it blacker.

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Take the opening break of this... make it overall a little funkier - https://vimeo.com/60278085


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I'm sure they sound different compared to what's hot, but letting go the difference them shits jam, and there's a blackness to em. Make the rest of it a little more soulful... I don't know...maybe.

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the common elements I can recognize

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so umm basically Rudimental?

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Jungle-y R&B

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they're cool but not nearly funky or soulful enough. or at least not what I've heard from them. same with aluna george. i'm not looking for the cool out version i'm looking for the balls out version. yeah that probably doesn't make sense... but... lol!

As a total outsider-even more than to Hip-Hop which I've actually dug since I was a kid-it seems that the "balls out" attitude that you hear in James Brown, Wilson Pickett as well as Sly and numerous other funk-acts and even some early Prince, Rick James, the Time, Zapp etc. has not been a relevant aspect in R&B for like decades. Even the Hip-Hop inspired stuff in the 90's generally took a laid-back, "sophisticated" approach to the gritty beats. I must admit it always prevented me from truly enjoying the music because I'm kind of an "in your face"-type of guy when it comes to music...

Just wondering if you know some recent R&B that sounds "balls out" and if it is anything one should even expect at this stage...

It just doesn't come across as convincing and is on a musical backdrop that is equally less convincing.

Both suffer from a lack of rawness which is exemplified in the discussion of live drums below. Even within the programmed drums of R&B you don't get close to balls out with the same contrived patterns being used over and over again. It's like the Atoms for Peace drums above aren't a rehash. They are influenced by but taken to a new place that has a balls outness to it. Reducing that to jungle drums and then calling up the latest 'jungle' presets to match a trend is the antithesis of the balls outness of it.

But you look at Drake or Chris Brown or Robin Thicke oreven leg dropping Miguel and there are these attempts at being that in your face "this is that shit" r&b but it all comes off as caricature, because it's all been programmed toward an existing aesthetic.

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There's so much promise in that sound, and if you put strong singers on top of it... lawd lawd.

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feels like a page out of my nights some times. (lol @ "is it 90s night"? i've gotten that before)

fortunately there's a few, and i mean FEW joints out now that can get played a little later in the night... (and not that late cept for Thicke)

Blurred Lines
Get Lucky
Suit & Tie, couple other Justin jams
Miguel's "how many drinks"
Fine China
Body Party
usher's "twisted"
dip into some of Dream's older stuff specially "rockin that thang"

there's some hope... be curious to see where the rest of the year and going into next year takes us

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Funny thing with Blurred lines, on this topic, is that we literally HAVE TO play Old School songs just to get to that BPM, unless we blend a 60BPM with it. I damn near gotta Chubb Rock or somethin just to get to 120.

I do think that Timbaland sound is good for the upbeat, but damn it's HARD to imitate a Strawberry bubblegum LOL.

It feels like there will be a few tracks here n there like those you mentioned, and a Chris Brown "Strip" that can work in the prime time, but even with that, it feels like we use those early OR late in the night, and not right next to a "Versace" or "R.I.P." main Rap tracks. I figure that in 95, you would hear "This is how we do it" and "Candy rain" right next to the hot Rap tracks, OR either those songs were bigger than the Rap club hits at the time.

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>Funny thing with Blurred lines, on this topic, is that we
>literally HAVE TO play Old School songs just to get to that
>BPM, unless we blend a 60BPM with it. I damn near gotta Chubb
>Rock or somethin just to get to 120.

Which is why I hate spinning mainstream black clubs in the states now.. There's a gang of new 120+ stuff out there but it's usually filed under house or electronic even though it sounds just like most old school R&B. But you try throwing down some Joey Negro in a popular black club and you'll get all sorts of crazy looks... now throw this type of shit in a mix with some old school at a mixed or mostly white club and folks will pack that dance floor.
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I think we will get more of that Miguel type of R&B in the next few years. Stuff that has a little more movement but is still appealing to a Black audience. Because he had a breakout year I think we'll see more artist trying to find their way to that lane.

What I would like to see is a exactly what you are talking about. More upbeat stuff and I don't just mean dance heavy shit. Something that makes you bob your head and has some kick to it. It's been a long time since there has been a consistent amount of R&B that had that kind of feeling to me.

And yeah...I think that lane of R&B just needs to be revived, and for the 21-35 crowd and not just 40, 45+ year olds...they have plenty Charlie Wilson types available LOL

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In the next couple of years. He's not so separate from Hip Hop that you can't see him doing a song with Kendrick or Wiz like he has but at the same time he's not trying to be a rapper. That's what I think R&B needs. Singers who are comfortable being singers but still have some edge to them. Even if you see him live he has a really exciting, lively kind of edgy show.

>And yeah...I think that lane of R&B just needs to be revived,
>and for the 21-35 crowd and not just 40, 45+ year olds...they
>have plenty Charlie Wilson types available LOL

Exactly. It has to be something for the young generation. My generation is done! At least most people my age can remember New Jack Swing or shit even Funk. R&B needs to get the young black male back without the whole R&B thug bullshit. Just some shit that bangs that dudes wouldn't be ashamed to say yeah I fuck with that.

Pretty Ricky is seriously the last R&B group that had some kind of impact....that's super sad.

Miguel could def get bigger, especially if he keeps the heaters coming.

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>I tend to get a complaint
>maybe 1-2 times a year, on some "you're playing all old stuff,
>is it 90's night?" "can you play something a bit more modern?"

I gig at a place that if the owner is in the building, all I can spin is the 10-11 stuff, regardless of the time of night. And I fall into this problem ALL the time. My go to line that I give people is "to break it down for you, using Drake as an example.... I can play 'Take Care' right now. I cannot play 'Started From the Bottom.'"

But as to your actual question, I feel like this neo-disco/70s groove revival that we're experiencing thanks to "Get Lucky" and "Blurred Lines" and "Fine China" and the somewhat dominance of Miguel and Bruno is gonna bless us with some nice "light club" material. Even stuff like that Arianna Grande track being a hit I feel like is gonna open up R&B again.

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9/10, it's a 30+ person, USUALLY a woman who complains too!!!!

A dude NYE was trippin on my best friend at 10:30, and said "we gon leave if he keep playin this 90's shit." AT 10:30!!! Buy her a drink and shut the hell up!

But yeah man, people don't understand....like, I do have enough newer R&B to play, BUT...most is bland, wack, super trendy, and most importantly, unrecognizable! I'm sure folks are tired of hearing a "Candy rain" or "Real love" all the time, but it's about what folks can sing along to, along with what's just straight quality.

>I gig at a place that if the owner is in the building, all I
>can spin is the 10-11 stuff, regardless of the time of night.
>And I fall into this problem ALL the time. My go to line that
>I give people is "to break it down for you, using Drake as an
>example.... I can play 'Take Care' right now. I cannot play
>'Started From the Bottom.'"

Yep...and for the spots I do that are like Rap/R&B only, it limits me even more because "Take care" was like the Top 40 song to them.

>But as to your actual question, I feel like this neo-disco/70s
>groove revival that we're experiencing thanks to "Get Lucky"
>and "Blurred Lines" and "Fine China" and the somewhat
>dominance of Miguel and Bruno is gonna bless us with some nice
>"light club" material. Even stuff like that Arianna Grande
>track being a hit I feel like is gonna open up R&B again.

I do think this might catch on more. Even "Fine China" wasn't as big as I thought it would be, but it's in the right direction for sure. I've actually never played a Bruno track, but I would for sure to a mixed/Top 40 crowd.

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>9/10, it's a 30+ person, USUALLY a woman who complains
>too!!!!

Damn near EV.ER.RY.TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol And I get it. Like, they want to hear the hot shit before they have to go home all early and shit, but like, "ma'am... it is not my fault you can't stay out till when the crowd gets here." hahaha

>I do think this might catch on more. Even "Fine China" wasn't
>as big as I thought it would be, but it's in the right
>direction for sure. I've actually never played a Bruno track,
>but I would for sure to a mixed/Top 40 crowd.

That new(er) Bruno jam, "Treasure" plays right in to that whole feel and has made it's way into my rotation, but I hear ya.

I always try working in shit that I'm like, "This shit's like the shit you like" tracks (like, a few years back I was big on using Chromeo in that regard), but every time, since they don't know it, they ain't feelin' it. It all comes back to something I said drunkenly to someone one night. I questioned whether or not regular folk actually like music, or if they just like recognition. That sounds clinical right there, but when I beer yelled it at some chick I said "How the fuck do you ever find new music to listen to if you only listen to shit you know!?" heh

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>
>>9/10, it's a 30+ person, USUALLY a woman who complains
>>too!!!!
>
>Damn near EV.ER.RY.TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol And I get
>it. Like, they want to hear the hot shit before they have to
>go home all early and shit, but like, "ma'am... it is not my
>fault you can't stay out till when the crowd gets here."
>hahaha

Yeaaa good point! OR...."I'm sorry that hearing songs from the 90's make you feel old, because you were my age when that shit was hot!!!" At least a few women told me that too...said that hearing certain old songs makes them feel old...they wanna hear new music to feel young. BUT...they only know radio-new songs, so eh..they need to stay at home LOL.

>
>>I do think this might catch on more. Even "Fine China"
>wasn't
>>as big as I thought it would be, but it's in the right
>>direction for sure. I've actually never played a Bruno
>track,
>>but I would for sure to a mixed/Top 40 crowd.
>
>That new(er) Bruno jam, "Treasure" plays right in to that
>whole feel and has made it's way into my rotation, but I hear
>ya.
>
>I always try working in shit that I'm like, "This shit's like
>the shit you like" tracks (like, a few years back I was big on
>using Chromeo in that regard), but every time, since they
>don't know it, they ain't feelin' it. It all comes back to
>something I said drunkenly to someone one night. I questioned
>whether or not regular folk actually like music, or if they
>just like recognition. That sounds clinical right there, but
>when I beer yelled it at some chick I said "How the fuck do
>you ever find new music to listen to if you only listen to
>shit you know!?" heh

Yeah my boy loves Treasure, I actually just need to try it. I have wanted to try Tuxedo songs, but was never bold enough aside from at 9:40PM one time.

Man...the thing about it now is that DJ's don't, or can't, break new music how we used to. It sounds hella 2013/young, but I feel like when a new song trends on Twitter, it might be a hit, and that I can probably play it at my next spot and expect the crowd to know it already. You already know how they are...they hear a new song and stop dancing, even questioning us...but a month later, they're begging for it.

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>but a month later, they're begging for it.

... I took "Blurred Lines" *OUT* of my rotation because non one was feeling it. Then one day everyone was requesting it on some "I don't know if you have this song or not, but...." tip. And I was losing my shit. Like, 'You mean the song I played for 2 months that none of y'all wanted to hear?" lol

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playing it at a spot and a group of girls right in front of me saying "turn this shit off" and giving me the cut throat signal. And a month later, the whole club was dancing to it.

I can say that I can tell what songs will usually work before they know them, especially with my L.A. native and HBCU crowds. Best shit ever was playing "Rack city" the day I found it, in July 2011. I was like "Tyga doesn't get much love, but this shit is just a hit" and I dropped it at 11:30....people were like "ayyy, play this again later!" You can play anything on that Mustard tip here, even if they don't know it...but for R&B songs, it's always a huge gamble.

The thing with "Blurred lines" is that I can tell it wasn't gonna be an instant grab. It's 120 BPM, and with the obvious Marvin drums, it sounds completely different from everything else...it's hard to even play it after a new song, especially for a Rap/R&B only crowd. I remember my other DJ telling me to play it back in May, and I was like "ehh...I don't know....." but it worked, I guess that's right when it got poppin.

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I just had to explain to this middle aged woman why I wouldn't play the "Wobble" at 9 o clock. lol

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the beats don't have much to them so it's easy to get a groove off on them and they don't take long to make

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>the beats don't have much to them so it's easy to get a
>groove off on them and they don't take long to make

Since the South, Mike Will Lex style has taken over, it just doesn't work with R&B. Almost ZERO true R&B hits at that tempo. Tracks like "Bottoms up" and "Lil freak" got a bit of love, but burnt out FAST. I can say I have hope with the Mustard template, once they add more instrumentation.

As for the "Killing me softly" lane where they Rap over a straight up Hip Hop classic....I have got 35-40 songs where it's R&B artists, a lot of major ones too, singing over 80's and 90's Hip Hop classic beats....and literally NONE, none of them have even halfway become big. The last was possibly "Let it go" from Keyshia, and even that was just the drum beat....the instrumentation was all fresh.

Mary J had one on Triumph, Keyshia has one, Monica has one or two, Ray Robinson is unknown but had a decent one on "I ain't no joke"....and eh. Of course in 95-96 this was hot, but that has failed.

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>but people don't want to hear that yet, they have to be
>convinced that it's a good idea before they will support it

moreso than Basslines and melodies, so it's a challenge

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John Michael "Sophisticated lady" - Definitely a page out of the "Excuse me miss" book but hella smooth. Wish it got bigger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlujJR0h9aI

Terrace Marin "In the sheets" - He's rap/rap singin on it, which is annoying, but if Lloyd had kept it for himself? It coulda been big (maybe not but I wish). Has that "Do it til you're satisfied" template

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...style for the clubs, I wouldn't be surprised that the UK has already done this with remixes and grime but in the US it's probably still experimental or too hard for the urban crowd.

Personally I dug the whole edm style r&b was doing for a while but they were all after the same three producers (Dave Guetta, Will.I.Am, & Swedish House Mafia ) or the same sound by finding kats who could reproduce it but wouldn't take it to even higher and better levels.

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well isn't Trap.. watered down Dub-Step? lol

And America IS STILL doing Dubby wobbles and drops in pop songs so it's gonne be a while...


I do like what Baauer did with this tho.. good ol Timbo Shuffle

https://soundcloud.com/baauer/disclosure-you-me-ft-eliza

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Do you think young audiences are completely non-receptive to live instrumentation at this point?

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Dubstep/EDM/Trapsetp has a lot of songs with zero lyrics, or not much lyrics aside from "And do the Harlem shake."

Black ones are non-receptive to it, though. And it's wild, I JUUUST just thought about that when I made my mix called "My melody" because I'm a music head....and 4-5 songs have breakdowns for a good 8-16 bars of just music. And I was like "yeah...only my 30, 35+ folks are gonna like this" because young folks have to be able to Rap/sing along to it.

Another observation...I feel that young folks dance more to the drums, which are never ever acoustic anymore, while older, 30+ dance more to the bassline.

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made with instruments over machines.... but that's an interesting observation as well. Gotta hook em.


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too receptive to live instruments on songs period.

Even the more "R&B-R&B" songs like "Love on top" are synthy...as is an "Adorn." "Blurred lines" is an exception for sure. "Suit & tie" has heavy Bass under the 70's glass.

More acoustic sounding upbeat music only works for the 30+, mainly stepper type songs.

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as in there's no going back?

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And only select young folks were even into an Erykah "I want you" type of song, especially as a club song. But tracks like Musiq "Just friends" were close to acoustic, aside from the drums, and got love...still gets love, too. I think that sound is timeless though, it just takes a few artists and hits to happen in that lane for it to open up.

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As in if it comes around again it will be throwback not for new ears. It's weird but I really do wonder.

It's different from say rock where sure there's the 'industrial' side of things which goes through its popularity swings, and I"m sure a lot of rock fans dabble down the EDM road for pleasure. BUt they can always go back to the bread and butter bands as 'new'. I honestly think it may be a (w)rap for bread and butter R&B, soul and black music in general (<<< see what I did there). At least until fully electronic 'bands' emerge with something completely different at which point perhaps they can reapply the bread and butter aesthetics.

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with a parallel in the instruments and structure, since some of the artists from that era are still here, and even some newer artists have a similar sound at times. Just that most of it feels too much like "Grown folks music" such as a "So in love" from Anthony Hamilton and Jill Scott.

I don't think it's necessarily a (w)rap, but just that whatever is next will always be a bit dependent on Rap when it comes to R&B. I just hope it grows from a good part of Rap. It's been this way since NJS...even how a Ghost Town DJ's "My boo" was just a R&B version of the Miami Bass stuff that never really had singing on it before 95-96.

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well...

Daft Punk Get Lucky is live guitar, drums, bass etc....
Bruno Treasure is live guitar...


When u talk about live anything I think you mean drums... even in non black events the drums have to be TIGHT... no one is dancing to drifting drums anymore... so if they are live they gotta be pretty close to quantized 90-100%

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I think it's the tone of live drums that people object too. You can quantize live sounding drums too....

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I mean... don't the Neptunes own this space though??

100-120 is easy... some Kenna, Robin Thicke, Pharrell etc....

Or make your own... lol

like ->> https://soundcloud.com/double0music/diamond-city-remix-bootleg

I think the Racthet/Twerk sound will influence R&B more as well... but not in the wack Trey Songz way

Also see -> Aluna George

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What's Kenna?

But nah, it's really not many 100-120 R&B hits in the last 1-2 years, after the obvious Blurred lines, Suit & tie, Fina China.

I mean....I'm comparing it to years like 95, and even some years in the 2000's, when there was WAY way way more than just 2-3 big R&B hits at a time.

I do think the L.A. Ratchet sound has a LOT of potential if they had more musicianship to it.

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You gotta get OUT son!!

lol

Nah but for real so much music in the space right now...

Kenna -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKEWsijB5AU
Jessse Boykins -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JHZvzeH0lA
Aluna George -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmXZuv5BaHg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkk2H3Ztrfk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PycH6rNPjnw


You should ALSO be up on the entire EDM Twerk shit... it's killing and I can even play it Bridge & tunnel (I.E. & valley) parties like Red Cup Sundays at Icon and kill

https://soundcloud.com/twrk/volume-one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8wQM8QDLkY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqxKCY7zz_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2It5FZC9QKI

There is way more but I am not near my Dj drive and lazy

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takes is for one commercial artist/producer to bring those type folks into the mainstream, and everybody will be on their "I was a fan of them before they have !!!" as always.

I know Jesse Boykins music a bit, mainly the slower tracks he has though. I haven't been to any parties out there on the I.E. side, especially not clubs...our last out-of-L.A. club experiences were at The Boogie in 2006!

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Nah "Bridge & Tunnel" is an NYC term for like spot on Fri/Sat where the suburbs and "corny" 9-5ers flood the city and hit up super big clubs that play top 40 and run-of-the-mil hits... Since there are no Bridges or Tunnels I just relate the term to people east of the LA River (even though hipsters are tryna take Boyle heights) and the Valley.. lol

I agree though it is different.. I can't do that hood shit..

Icon is right across from staple center though

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my folks did it for a few weeks last Summer. I hear a lot of mixed reviews on it as a whole. What area do you live in?

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K Town.. closest energy to NY in LA I think... DTLA is close but them zombies after 2am man.. can't fuck with the zombies

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ever check out those Arch Rival warehouse parties....MAN

https://www.instagram.com/christiancgarrido/

Hussein ibn Malik "if he escaped on a horse he might be realest nigga ever, EVER..2013 Nat Turner with the burner"

MaxPtah "Django is real homie.."

PoppaGeorge "If you're a child of the 70's, Ye looks like

I think people saw with that track how well an uptempo R&B song goes over at a party.

Add Bruno Mars Treasure to the Get Lucky, Blurred Lines, Fine China list and you see a trend of R&B tracks that you can really dance , sing along with and have fun with.


I think Mayer Hawthorne's Corsican Rose should get radio play and fall in this lane.


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tomorrow. Wouldn't try it Monday, that's one of the few hood/Turnt crowds I'll be doing this year LOL

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yea.. Don't.. lol

I wonder how the hood would react to this Snoop Dubstep song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQyw9jbVO-w

It's so weird that the Hood didn't embrace Dubstep.. So much moshing an restless energy like NWA

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People in my area are F-E-E-L-I-N-G that lol

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Drake gon' bring Kashif back

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I see Onra and Dam Funk doing stuff like this.Alot of that modern soul stuff just KILLS it at Funkmosphere and The Do Over ( before Do Over went in a different direction )

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Hussein ibn Malik "if he escaped on a horse he might be realest nigga ever, EVER..2013 Nat Turner with the burner"

MaxPtah "Django is real homie.."

PoppaGeorge "If you're a child of the 70's, Ye looks like

I haven't tried it out yet, but I think it would flow well with some AlunaGeorge. Maybe that's the gateway.

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i think Chris Brown had it with "Fine China" which reminds me of the track below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEPp4WBh7oQ

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Hussein ibn Malik "if he escaped on a horse he might be realest nigga ever, EVER..2013 Nat Turner with the burner"

MaxPtah "Django is real homie.."

PoppaGeorge "If you're a child of the 70's, Ye looks like

This sounds like it could've been on Onra's Long Distance album. It'd be crazy if this track got major play for the next couple months.

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Those collabo with Mayer Hawthorne for example.
"reach out richard", "Wine Glass Woman", "Backseat lover" I dont know if they're all upbeat though.

I could also see a R&B artist rock some deep soul or soulful house and make it work in the "non house" clubs. Something like that but new :

http://youtu.be/Z0wDEofQPro

Actually Chris Brown did it already with the fantastic "Beautiful People" but it didn't start a trend.

If It Isnt Love... then I went to BBD's Poison...

I wish R&B would go in that direction again... New Editions up tempo shit strictly for the dance floor.

I would love to hear a hybrid of the late 80s R&B.....and more of that Dap Kings old soul but with some young cat like Miguel or Chris Brown singing over it.

Im sick of the 4 on the floor tho.. I love house music but this Daft Punk shit aint the move. I liked Get Lucky but it was short lived. Its boring now...

And if so, it'll be a take on "Night & day" or "Piece of my love" "Let's chill" aka the slower songs.

Nick Cannon sampled "Poison" but you rarely hear it sampled for whatever reason. I think the drums were SO fresh at the time, that they sound too much of the time now, and younger crowds wouldn't even know how to react to the overall swing to it and the drum sounds.

One thing people don't notice though, is that as much energy as NJS had....the chords, changes, bridges, and structure of the songs was AMAZING on some tracks. I like how The Business, who did Chris Brown's "Strip" tend to have some actual musicianship in their ubpeat songs...some of it is minor stuff that only folks like us will catch, but they'll throw some chords in there to have me like "ohhh damn!"

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One thing I notice about Questlove when he dj's is that he mixes it up with tracks you just wouldn't expect to hear but still get the party going.

I mean I was at this party with half old white folks and young hip black folks and dude throws on Phil Collin's Easy Lover, Billy Ocean Carribean Queen and Janet Jackson's pleasure principle and had EVERYONE in the house rocking early in the night.

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that are open to this...I do every once in a while, but not nearly as often.

One thing about it is, most club heads are NOT music heads. I have spots where I literally can't get away with ANYTHING before the 90's except for a "Before I let go" at 1:45. The 21-25 or even 25-30 "Urban" spots just want it to feel new and trendy, vs a Kiss-n-Grind or Do Over where you can mix it up and go any direction. I'm slowly trying to get into that lane, though...I feel too limited just playing newer stuff.

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