Just before Magna Carta dropped, I needed something to hold me over while I waited because Yeezus wasn't good enough to even make it into the whip. I wanted some summer albums so I went back and listened to RE:RPM's (very underrated) and then Life Is Good. Besides Summer on Smash, nothing else is really skip-worthy, and its definitely got its share of standouts. Without question it's Nas' best since Stillmatic, so at minimum its in his top 4, maybe top 3. That shit is just such a refreshing album to listen to, especially these days when good rap albums are way too few and far between. In mind, it's a classic. Seriously, I'm trying to think of 5 albums that have been released in the last 5 years that are better, and I can't do it.

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Nas' only saving grace in the Lesson is the fact
that Jay Z keeps putting out terrible music

(I like MCHG, but its like 1/1000000th as good as LIG
and overall pretty bad)

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the OP said it was classic.
a number of people said it was a classic when it dropped.

tell me, how does "the lesson" feel about the new kanye album?
there are at least 3 platinum posts full of people disagreeing.

actually, we can't even agree on what kanye's best album is.
college dropout?
MBDTF?
graduation?

there is no lesson consensus on anything.
you really kill me with this.

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>Nas' only saving grace in the Lesson is the fact
>that Jay Z keeps putting out terrible music
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>(I like MCHG, but its like 1/1000000th as good as LIG
>and overall pretty bad)

First few listens I came away feeling it was very average, but the more I listened to it it grew on me. It's actually pretty good, but it's not outstanding in any way. Solid but unspectacular. MCHG is kinda like Josh Smith or Andre Iguodala, does a lot of things well, some areas stronger than others, but nothing really great.

And you're right, it's nowhere near as good as LIG. But I don't see what Jay has to do with LIG being good or not.

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I say yes but thats just me..

I'll let other decide if its a classic but for me it has the ability to be my second favorite Nas album. I still have It Was Written there but there's something about this one that I love and I can see it moving up as time goes by.

Back When and Stay are essential Nas songs.

Loco-Motive, Daughters, You Wouldn't Understand, The Don, Cherry Wine, Bye Baby, Nasty, The Black Bond, Roses, and Where's The Love (that second verse is unreal) are ALL great songs.

from the best mc of his era

for my trapped in the 90s niggas

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i can't even believe this discussion is taking place.

You're the only one acting like the album is average at best?

and, again, let's just not pretend you have the ability to be objective about Nas

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>and, again, let's just not pretend you have the ability to be
>objective about Nas

Lets not pretend people aren't going to like anything he drops going in period

>>and, again, let's just not pretend you have the ability to
>be
>>objective about Nas
>
>Lets not pretend people aren't going to like anything he drops
>going in period

everytime Nas drops something new i hope its great

everytime, for the most part, i hear an album that sounds good out the gate but has little replay value or staying power

that said, i dont really think Nas makes music for me, i think he wants his art to appeal to a different market of rap fans and, im being totally truthful when i say this, that is absolutely fine & totally understandable

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what you are trying to say is than he is a "stan"

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>I'll let other decide if its a classic but for me it has the
>ability to be my second favorite Nas album. I still have It
>Was Written there but there's something about this one that I
>love and I can see it moving up as time goes by.
>
>Back When and Stay are essential Nas songs.
>
>Loco-Motive, Daughters, You Wouldn't Understand, The Don,
>Cherry Wine, Bye Baby, Nasty, The Black Bond, Roses, and
>Where's The Love (that second verse is unreal) are ALL great
>songs.
>
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

praised it even

haven't listened since...

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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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the second half is hit or miss for me.

>the second half is hit or miss for me.

You Wouldn't Understand
Back When
The Don
Stay
Cherry Wine
Bye Baby

That shit is hit or miss?

Bye Baby, Stay and Don are quality but those others get skipped.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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Sometimes I feel like that's the best song on the album, though on a great album like that I often change my mind on what the best song is.

LOL....definitive troll....

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

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maybe let someone more objective act all shocked & amazed that every Nas song is not universally considered an epic tale of biblical proportions?

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Fuck you bro.

My interaction with mrshow has little to do with his opinion on Nas.

its not that serious

if i knew you irl id say the same shit to u while were sitting around passin the blunt...you'd call me a hater & carry me for being a madlib stan & we'd have a good laugh & then talk about the game or the hot chick we saw on the way back from the store

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"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

It's a great album, and it will stand the test of time. Great lyrics, great writing, and great songs with mostly timeless sounding beats.....that's the type of album that will hold up.

I haven't listened to it in almost a year but Nas was stellar on it (I didn't like the features really and some of the production wasn't enough to match what Nas did to them)

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>(I didn't like the features really and some of the
>production wasn't enough to match what Nas did to them)

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no. its not classic to me and nas is my favorite MC.

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Its grown man rap

You have to be older than 21 to relate to it

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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there are tons of records I can't relate to that I think are classic

How are you going to tell me WHY I don't think its classic?

Can I relate to Nas' mafioso rap type shit on It Was Written lmao? NO and I think that record is classic

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>there are tons of records I can't relate to that I think are
>classic
>
>How are you going to tell me WHY I don't think its classic?
>
>Can I relate to Nas' mafioso rap type shit on It Was Written
>lmao? NO and I think that record is classic


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

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if you don't agree go eat some cyanide jello pudding

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....and eons beyond that garbage Jay just dropped...Jay trying to rhyme like all these other cats, when HE use to be the trend setter is sad, but thats another topic....

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

to me it seems like dude, lyrically, has just lost it

its like...its still jay but its a watered down shittier version........

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There's so many dad jokes on that album.

but yeah, its better than anything Jay has put out since then, going back all the way to BP actually, because LIG is definitely better than Black Album.

I'm not sure I'd go as far to say it "destroys" AG though.

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They are close IMO...both are high quality projects....tough call....

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

Definitely better imo. This should have been the post for debate.

I like Life Is Good, a lot. But Stillmatic is a 5-mic record to me, with plenty of 5-mic songs: "Ether," "Got Ur Self A...," "One Mic," "2nd Childhood," "What Goes Around" are all potential Top 10-20 Nas songs to me. I don't think Life Is Good measures up to that. It's still a great record though, I love it.

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and ether really isn't that good of a song imo....

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'Stillmatic' is important in that it represents a recharge of Nas' career, but I've always found it's quality too hit-and-miss to consider it classic. It has some great records, but it also has it's share of snoozers and weak joints. He was still washing off the musical stink of 'Nastradamus' and some of of 'I Am'.

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I'm glad I was too young to even be into nas when those came out

those albums are not good lol

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with Life Is Good the better of the two.

I could go back and forth on it. Honestly, I probably need to go back and listen to Stillmatic again to really answer than, it has been a minute.

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tracks 6 through 9 just didn't work for me.

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Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

but everything after Summer On Smash....damn

with the AMAZING bonus tracks

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It's a dope album - I was saying it had the potential to be his best when it came out. I think the initial reaction I had died down a bit since, but I do see it as more mature and personal than Illmatic or IWW, which are probably better.

I'd probably give it classic status but besides Stay, Back When, & Loco-Motive - most of the other songs come off as really good not great - Summer on Smash still trash.

No. It's not a classic. Classics don't really happen anymore.

good album. But Nas fans will tell you I Am wasn't that bad, IWW > Illmatic and Stillmatic deserved that 5 so given that type of wayward thinking i'm not surprised by this question.

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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

...when the musical landscape had changed tremendously; to the point where the album that's considered classic has a sound that is no longer popular or relevant, yet somehow, it withstood the test of time. Nowadays, you niggas won't let an album get the chance to age before being ready to deem it classic. Man, it's been a year. Today's music hasn't changed that much since then nor has the album aged long enough in order to see if it still holds up. I don't know why cats nowadays have such an itch to call any album they really like a classic while it's still being listened to with fresh ears.



Since 1976

You've never heard an album and just knew it was classic material?

The only way something can be deemed classic is if it passes the test of time?

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>The only way something can be deemed classic is if it passes
>the test of time?

I think it's a great album that still sounds just as great a year later, and it's an even bigger achievement considering where Nas is at in his career. I also think it's one of his best-produced albums, period. But I'm not sure that it has enough classic songs that will end up in the classic hip-hop cannon. On the other hand, down the line, I can see this being the blueprint for a mature rap album that Kingdom Come tried and failed at.

Guess we'll still have to wait and see. But I do think it'll still be good years down the line. We'll see if it has classic impact.

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The fact that 'Life Is Good' came out 18 years after' 'Illmatic' and 21 years after 'Live From The BBQ' is incredible to me. Consider other emcees at similar points in their careers:

LL was on '10' - remember that one?
Rakim was preparing 'The Seventh Seal'
BDK was M.I.A. For the best part of a decade
KRS just made 'Keep Right' (that album's actually pretty dope, but not in the same league as L.I.G.)
G Rap was on 'Half A Klip'
Etc...

In a genre where longevity is practically unheard of, for Nas to still be making such dope music that reaches a wide audience is beautiful to witness. Alongside Jay, Com and the Wu, I feel like Nas is challenging the usual conventions of what a career in HipHop looks and sounds like.

Is it a classic album, though? It's a personal classic to me and that's all I really care about.

Him getting out his "from the 5th" crutch and becoming a character for a whole album was some amazing shit. The flo nor the lyrics suffered.

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Plus Undun was inconsistent for such a short album but I haven't loved an album from The Roots since Game Theory.

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he seems to pretty much have the same relative responsibility level beyond whose name is on the project

what do i know tho?

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>he seems to pretty much have the same relative responsibility
>level beyond whose name is on the project
>
>what do i know tho?

So Thought produces now?

And Nas doesn't even have that many features on his albums. Rick Ross is the only MC and then he has people singing hook.

Thought has people doing hooks and an average of 2 guests on each song on his past couple albums reducing his workload to 1 verse per song in most cases while Nas is doing 3.

Also, it seems pretty clear that Thought has others (?uest included) lending ideas to the overall theme a d content in which their albums and songs are going to cover.

How is that even? Unless you fucking suck at math.

And I say this with Thought securely at my number 2 spot.