Following a semi-heated back-and-forth between musicians Hudson Mohawke and Mike Dean about Magna Carta Holy Grail, (in which HudMo pulled no punches in describing how he felt about the record) Dean revealed that the sequel to Watch The Throne is indeed in the works. Hopefully for HudMo fans, any unfavorable politics surrounding his MCHG opinion don't end up getting in the way of the music.
This isn't actually the first time Dean has "confirmed" WTT2, he talked about it about a year ago. But now things appear to be getting real. Here we are again, waiting for Jay and Ye, just when we thought we'd get a break.
bavid dammer Member since Oct 23rd 2012 1369 posts
Sat Jul-06-13 09:48 PM
1. "hudson mohawke was probably the worst out of that 2008 beat movement." In response to Reply # 0 Sat Jul-06-13 09:53 PM by bavid dammer
wtf cares what he has cooking for 2 over the hill, "too big to fail" mainstream plutonomic rappers. for all of his "experimentation" he doesn't have a hot beat to his name imo.
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18. "nah he doesnt have a hit. just solid album cuts" In response to Reply # 2
Bammer is right about the 2008 era. HudMo definitely wasn't the worst but he wasnt really coming with heat like that either. Then Butter happened (lol), then he seemed to recalibrate quicker than the others and is now in a prime spot. He should chill.
4. "so we're blackballing people from albums now?" In response to Reply # 0
do you guys have any clue on what reality means?
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the idea of blackballing someone from working on your album is silly as shit on some 'nahhh nanny nahhh' type shit, and you guys wonder why I go in on these assholes and the people that love them
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9. "RE: no what I mean is" In response to Reply # 6
>the idea of blackballing someone from working on your album >is silly as shit >on some 'nahhh nanny nahhh' type shit, and you guys wonder why >I go in on these assholes and the people that love them
No doubt. Continue to go in on these guys. They need that.
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8. "it's believed that Browz got blackballed by Jay for producing Ether" In response to Reply # 7
and that's why he started rapping on his own
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20. "Ron Browz has a whole catalogue of great beats, you're off on this one f..." In response to Reply # 12
Who knows if he really got "blackballed" though. It makes for a juicy story but could just be bullshit.
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30. "The only production credits Ron Browz had before "Ether" was for Big L" In response to Reply # 25 Tue Jul-09-13 12:31 AM by Chanson
Post "Ether" he had:
Fat Joe - We Run This Shit Nas - Last Real Nigga Alive DMX - Fuck Y'all Ludacris - Blow It Out Lloyd Banks - Playboy Lil' Kim - What's The Word? Snoop Dogg - On No 50 Cent - I'll Whip Your Head Boy Tony Yayo - G-Shit Capone-N-Noreaga - Rotate Jim Jones - Pop Champagne Busta Rhymes - Arab Money
and a few more.
He didn't get blackballed after "Ether". His whole sound was deaded by Jay-Z with the "Death of Autotune" song. Basically he was collateral damage in Jay's beef with Jim Jones and had his album shelved because Jay clowned the style of beats he was making at the time (ex. Pop Champagne).
Don't you remember how they reacted to Young chop when he got "outta line"
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16. "RE: What happened to Young Chop? n/m" In response to Reply # 14
They sat him down for a second.. after he ranted on Kanye changing elements of "I Dont Like"
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28. "avg cats whose careers depend on ppl thinking they above average..." In response to Reply # 17
tend to be like that
i mean they have no qualms or morals about lying to the world on a daily basis what makes u think they're not petty individuals willing to railroad someone bc their feelings are hurt?
jay & kanye have already shown & proven they lack integrity & honor...this is par for the course
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22. "RE: hudson mohawke is not young chop" In response to Reply # 19
I mean nothing major would happen.. hudmo can do whatever he wants at this point.. in HIS world
They could easily say... you aren't on the album though.. I think that's all Mike Dean was alluding to.
and tbh without a hit under his belt with ye's new sound he isn't as indispensable as you'd think. It's not like he made a 2013 'Niggas In Paris' or Power...
Unfortunately down the road I think Travis Scott is gonna have more influence than Hudmo on Ye
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27. "RE: travis scott is dope." In response to Reply # 24
Yea I am not a fan... met kid last year when he was still moochin' off whites boys and sleeping on couches..
he is talented for sure.. definitely fits Ye's direction.. Think he'll be a solid producer down the line...
I haven't been wowed by anything yet though and not a fan of a the fake deep/illuminati/psuedo-creative shit when it has no purpose or point of reference..
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32. "yeah they could for sure" In response to Reply # 22
and youre right he doesnt have a solo credit on a hit but with his hand in Mercy and the fact that the track for Blood on the Leaves *started* as a finished tnght track you could say he was part of the biggest songs on each of the last two GOOD releases
but whatever, Jay might block him but if Kanye cared about Jay's opinion that much he prolly would have never wifed up a Kardashian lol
34. "RE: yeah they could for sure" In response to Reply # 32
Yea.. in the end shit dont matter...
I am MUCH MORE interested in what TNGHT does in the next year than ye or jay honestly..
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26. "somebody come slap his nigga up" In response to Reply # 23
>most them face albums r unlistenable due to the cheap ass >beats
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35. "Mike Dean just trying to keep his name ringing..." In response to Reply # 23 Tue Jul-09-13 11:24 AM by unohoo
...he not fucking up his bread. Dean been in the game a long time, and I think he understands that sometimes you have to play the game, I think that was all he was saying. You either respect it, or you don't, apparently a lot of people don't.
And yeah, you kinda tripping discounting Rap-A-Lot catalog.
29. "I wouldn't call it "blackballed" from WTT2." In response to Reply # 0
But a lot of people don't work with people who disrespect them. I think it's as simple as that. When I hear "blackball," I see it as cats getting exiled from getting outside work in general - not from one album, lol
That said, I thought HudMo was on some BS to complain about not making it onto the album, though. Jay-Z has turned down beats from some of the most legendary names in the game. Lick your wounds and keep it moving.
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