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"The-Dream - IV Play (Album Stream)"
Tue May-21-13 10:33 AM by wrecknoble

  

          

http://itzsoweezee.com/the-dream-iv-play-album-stream/

his people leaked it a week early themselves via VEVO (my link has it all neatly in a 14 track playlist for you guys)

i'll give it a full listen later tonight but figured we can use this space for commentary

tracklist:

1. High Art (Feat. Jay-Z)
2. IV Play
3. Equestrian
4. Pussy (Feat. Big Sean & Pusha T)
5. Turnt (Feat. Beyonce & 2 Chainz)
6. Where Have You Been (Feat. Kelly Rowland)
7. Too Early (Feat. Gary Clark Jr.)
8. Michael
9. Loving You/Crazy
10. New Orleans
11. Self-Conscious
12. Holy Love
13. Outro
14. Slow It Down (Feat. Fabolous)

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digesting it now.
May 21st 2013
1
so it's not I.V. play.
May 21st 2013
2
lol. yes. that's the real title.
May 21st 2013
3
heard that hov joint on the radio. it was tight until hov came in.
May 21st 2013
4
ive been waiting on this joint to drop
May 21st 2013
5
I like it very much.
May 21st 2013
6
6 tracks in, joint is hot so far
May 21st 2013
7
waiting on that good leak to listen.
May 21st 2013
8
lol more Prince/Rkelly retread, still cool to listen to
May 21st 2013
9
like the gary clark track
May 21st 2013
10
thanks
May 21st 2013
11
digging it
May 21st 2013
12
Word. I think his music has gotten alot better too though.
May 21st 2013
14
      i think what started to change my mind was the Terius Nash
May 21st 2013
18
i ain't going to listen. will be buying next tues on lunch break
May 21st 2013
13
Stated plain and simply, this is a really good album with
May 21st 2013
15
his 1st album has like 5 of his best songs he's ever done..
May 21st 2013
16
Yeah, the only one I like outta the ones you mentioned is
May 21st 2013
17
replied to your post above with basically the same sentiment
May 21st 2013
19
How did Body Work never make an actual album?
May 22nd 2013
20
i know :(
May 22nd 2013
21
Seriously
May 22nd 2013
22
i would go as far as to say Body Work / FMBO is my
May 26th 2013
38
What album are y'all listening to?
May 24th 2013
23
michael is my favorite track
May 24th 2013
24
      I think he misses Tricky and LOS
May 24th 2013
25
           are they not on the album? who produced these tracks?
May 25th 2013
26
           This link explains the situation with Tricky...
May 25th 2013
27
                He's been handling his own production for a minute tho
May 25th 2013
28
                     Word.
May 25th 2013
29
                     RE: He's been handling his own production for a minute tho
May 25th 2013
30
                          eh LOS was all over Love King and Tricky did Panties to the Side
May 25th 2013
31
           LOS & The Dream are the best combo. LOS is the illest R&B producer
May 26th 2013
37
           Los has three production credits according to Wikipedia
May 27th 2013
40
so far this isn't a very fun album
May 25th 2013
32
Doooope. The-dream stay winning
May 25th 2013
33
worst album by dream
May 25th 2013
34
yeah. sadly, i agree.
May 25th 2013
35
that turkey always been overrated
May 26th 2013
36
you know what
May 27th 2013
39
So what's this album's "WOW" track?
May 27th 2013
41
While I agree there's nothing better than "Body Work"...
May 27th 2013
42
      michael and the title track are the standouts for me.
May 27th 2013
43
The best song on here is the title track in my opinion
May 27th 2013
44
Not feeling this.
May 29th 2013
45
who gonna leak that Climax bonus disc to me tho?
May 30th 2013
46
I got you the bonus disc fire
May 30th 2013
47
      bonus disc?!
May 30th 2013
48
           yep
May 30th 2013
49
                RE: yep
May 31st 2013
52
                I don't get why "dope bitch" didnt blow up
May 31st 2013
53
i think i might be the biggest Dream fan/supporter/(apologist?)
May 30th 2013
50
yea this def his worst album...he left some heat off the album tho
May 31st 2013
51
my review
May 31st 2013
54
This album is horrible
May 31st 2013
55
IV Play: Redux
May 31st 2013
56
I can't understand how body work/fuck your brains out didn't make
May 31st 2013
57
      yeah. if what i posted above was the real album...
May 31st 2013
58
           Yea I admired RCA/future for that on Pluto
May 31st 2013
59
           It's a lose/lose situation
Jun 04th 2013
60

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1. "digesting it now."
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will post up w/ my thoughts. been waiting for this for a few years.

  

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2. "so it's not I.V. play."
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like i thought it was.

i was imagining songs about playing doctor. then it hit me - 'IV' as in 'four'.

is that the real album title?

fuck you.

  

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3. "lol. yes. that's the real title."
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i'm at "Michael" and so far the only wack track is the Beyonce feature, but i fucking hate Beyonce so I figured as much. it was the weakest song musically to me too though but she didn't help.

  

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4. "heard that hov joint on the radio. it was tight until hov came in."
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5. "ive been waiting on this joint to drop"
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been feenin a dream summer album since he dropped that 1977

  

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6. "I like it very much. "
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I need to get it into the ride to really see how it feels vs. his other albums, but my gut tells me its my 3rd favorite behind Love v. Hate & Love King.

  

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7. "6 tracks in, joint is hot so far"
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nm

  

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8. "waiting on that good leak to listen."
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9. "lol more Prince/Rkelly retread, still cool to listen to"
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10. "like the gary clark track"
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11. "thanks"
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12. "digging it"
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i wasn't a huge fan of The-Dream when he first started doing solo performance work, but his style has definitely grown on me

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14. "Word. I think his music has gotten alot better too though."
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I wasn't a fan in the beginning either, outside of a song here and there.

  

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18. "i think what started to change my mind was the Terius Nash"
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projects (mixtape, then original release) he put out. i was going through some personal shit then and a lot of the songs on there fuelled that anger/fire more haha. now i'll check most of the stuff he releases and it's a lot better than his old music (to me at least).

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13. "i ain't going to listen. will be buying next tues on lunch break"
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15. "Stated plain and simply, this is a really good album with"
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well-written songs.

Imo, with this release, he's finally made an album that one can listen
to and understand why he's regarded as heavyweight behind the scenes.
Previously, his albums mostly sounded like he kept his trash for himself
while giving his treasure to other artists. That "Terius Nash" album
was a real turning point for dude. I wasn't sure if that was a fluke
he pulled off because of the personal things he was going through or
not, but he's proving it wasn't. I actually tried to go back to his
previous work and see if it was just me being closed off to his work,
but I still can't feel the majority of it. Perhaps I'll try again sometime
soon, but there really seems to be a huge upgrade in his recent solo work.

  

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16. "his 1st album has like 5 of his best songs he's ever done.."
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luv songs
purple kisses
i love your girl
fast car
nikki

i can keep going..

his 1st solo album is a fuckn classic

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17. "Yeah, the only one I like outta the ones you mentioned is"
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Nikki.

The rest either sound like cheap knock-off versions of other artists
or radio-grabber words and melodies he threw out without putting much
thought into them beyond that. Don't get me wrong, that speaks to his
talent as a melody writer to even have the musical sense to do that, but
it always sounded like cheap r&b to me. It also tends to be the mark
of a songwriter who is either lazy or just started writing songs recently.

This new stuff, however, is more well-written and fleshed out from
a songwriter's perspective, as if he's grown to a point where not even
he can stand to cheat himself by writing something THAT reductive.
He sounds more seasoned as an artist. And while he still uses catch
phrases and all, he brings more to the table and doesn't rely SOLELY
on that now. I could like his songs before, but now I can respect them
from a musical standpoint too.

  

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19. "replied to your post above with basically the same sentiment"
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i definitely feel that Terius Nash was the turning point, at least in a way that i could relate to and enjoy

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20. "How did Body Work never make an actual album?"
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One of the best songs he's ever done.

  

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22. "Seriously"
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38. "i would go as far as to say Body Work / FMBO is my"
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favorite song by him.

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23. "What album are y'all listening to?"
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Aside from the one-two '90s R. Kelly/Jodeci throwback punch of the title track and Equestrian, the rest of this shit is fairly weak.

I have a strange feeling that Dream is now past his prime and has run out of ideas.

I can respect that some may enjoy this but to say that it's on the same level as his past works is suspect IMO.

  

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24. "michael is my favorite track"
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but i can see where you're coming from

a lot of the sounds/melodies/concepts used on here are similar to his previous material and with no new approach

album is still good though

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25. "I think he misses Tricky and LOS"
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26. "are they not on the album? who produced these tracks?"
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27. "This link explains the situation with Tricky..."
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where it starts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49SYGSnQYkU#t=10m21s

If I'm not mistaken, The-Dream produced most, if not all, of this
album himself.

  

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28. "He's been handling his own production for a minute tho"
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a5 least a few albums

>where it starts:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49SYGSnQYkU#t=10m21s
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>If I'm not mistaken, The-Dream produced most, if not all, of
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29. "Word."
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30. "RE: He's been handling his own production for a minute tho"
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Yeah they haven't worked together since the love vs money album

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31. "eh LOS was all over Love King and Tricky did Panties to the Side"
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and both of them have been mentioned in passing for this album too, but I'll definitely be curious to see how much they show up since we never got very definitive answers about 1977. Or at least, I don't remember seeing the full credits and never put them into my iTunes if I did.


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37. "LOS & The Dream are the best combo. LOS is the illest R&B producer"
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to me. him and the dream are golden together. if LOS doesn't have like 5 songs on this joint that will be a huge let down if the production isn't hittin. i'm still not listening to the album til i buy it tuesday

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40. "Los has three production credits according to Wikipedia "
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32. "so far this isn't a very fun album"
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the only songs that are really sticking with me are "HIgh Art", "New Orleans" and maybe "Y'all" off the bonus cuts. The rest of it just kind of drifts by in a vulgar, mid-tempo haze. Even the album art is bland.


I'm worried this album isn't going to grow on me.


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33. "Doooope. The-dream stay winning"
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34. "worst album by dream"
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its ok cause i like his shit but this is mad bland tho.

  

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35. "yeah. sadly, i agree."
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i think i WANTED to like it a lot but i don't actually.

it's not bad, but it's subpar for him.

earlier i said it's his 3rd best but after i digested it more i'd say it's his worst hands down.

  

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36. "that turkey always been overrated"
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as long as he stays behind the scenes then he will be cool, however him as a solo artist wears thin

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39. "you know what"
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He needs to just be a producer/songwriter. I cant get into his voice. Cool music:
http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/playlist?list=PLCrK7BWaeauPEybRCSbfI2iXI8GJ3eTy1


Check out NEW Soul music at: www.myspace.com/starbeing

Bumpin in the STEREO:
Gladys Knight&The Pips
Slave-Stone Jam
Shanice Wilson-Discovery
Adrian Marcel-RS Presents..

  

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CMcMurtry
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41. "So what's this album's "WOW" track?"
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Up to now, every Dream album, even the uneven ones, had at least one track that blew me away and that I still went back to years later.

Maybe I need to let this album marinate a bit more, but I don't hear one on here, nor do I hear anything better than "Body Work/Fuck My Brains Out".

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42. "While I agree there's nothing better than "Body Work"..."
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..."Michael" is easily the stand-out for me. I also love "Self Conscious", "Pussy" and "Y'all" off the deluxe edition.

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43. "michael and the title track are the standouts for me."
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44. "The best song on here is the title track in my opinion"
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Everything else just seems like leftover tracks or fillers.

  

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45. "Not feeling this."
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Album is Love King status, which was a dud to me.
Dude redeemed himself w/that 1977, but like Love King,
the production doesn't grab me. And if the production doesn't
work, then all you have is The Dream's lyrics, god bless you
if that does it for you.

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46. "who gonna leak that Climax bonus disc to me tho?"
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47. "I got you the bonus disc fire "
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48. "bonus disc?!"
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49. "yep"
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52. "RE: yep"
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Was this sold in stores? If not, can you hook a fellow southerner up fam?

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53. "I don't get why "dope bitch" didnt blow up"
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not blow up huge but at least main rotation on urban stations... song was hot

  

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50. "i think i might be the biggest Dream fan/supporter/(apologist?)"
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In the L... This album has a couple joints but fuuuuck thid wad a dissappointment. I went to the local best buy and dropped the $14.99 on the deluxe cd.. Hsve hratd it two times the whole way thru..like..... If he woulda saved the 5 best songs from the 1977 teriud nash cd, and then included the 2 songs Roc and Fuck Your Brains Out, and then went eith the 8 brst songs on this 4play album, itd be a whole different conversation.. But... We've heard those songs already and the 4 play album is what it is... Ive seen muxed opinions in here. But im agreeing that, as a whole, this is prob the worst dream album. And i had such high expectations... So much so that i didn't DL the album before i bought the cd. Still got a few joints tho and I'm going to hope a few grow on me

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51. "yea this def his worst album...he left some heat off the album tho"
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he recorded enough songs to make a good album he just didn't put it together right

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54. "my review"
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It's been a rocky few years for The-Dream. Technically speaking, one would assume IV Play is the album Dream so earnestly sang would released on June 7th, 2011 before experiencing numerous delays through to May of this year. During that period his presence behind the scenes of major radio jams became less frequent as well, and his frustrations eventually spilled onto the internet for free in the form of 1977 that same fall. It was a more introspective side of the artist that he billed under his birth name, Terius Nash, and the response was so positive that when it became clear 2012 would come and go without a Dream album as well, Island Def Jam cut their losses and released the digital album on retail shelves.

With an ever-shifting tracklist and apparent direction, it was never easy to get excited about what was once know as Love IV: Diary of a Mad Man, though. The-Dream's sugar-coated track record speaks for itself, but the Weeknds and Frank Oceans of the world - not to mention Miguel and BJ the Chicago Kid among others - have caused a bit of a shift in the R&B scene, and attentive listeners knew Dream was a little frustrated the former two were getting so much attention in 2011. IV Play particularly homes in directly on the narcissism and social anxiety that pervades so much of The Weeknd's music...unfortunately, marrying Dream's legendarily crass and/or juvenile lyrics to such a moody, mid-tempo landscape rather than the high-octane pop of past releases is incredibly bland.

There are some things about IV Play that grasp what made The-Dream such a captivating pop personality three summers ago. "Slow It Down" might have a despicably corny Fabolous verse ("We hangin' out and I'm so funny / All of a sudden I'm Winnie the Pooh / All up in your honey") but the rest of the track is vintage Nash, berating club DJs for refusing to play any slow or mid-tempo jams so girls can dance on him (very specifically, on him) more precisely in the midst of some playful allusions to Michael Jackson's vocal ticks.

"IV Play" is the first of many songs that bring to mind the mid-to-late '90s, as The-Dream raps like he has bronchitis before breaking into his usual pitch-corrected tenor/falsetto hybrid. The song threatens to become a little melodramatic (despite sounding casual on the surface, the sex in "IV Play" is well-rubbed in aggression), and just as it does the pitch correction goes into overdrive, "Runaway" style, atop The-Dream's interpretation of late-Super Nintendo backgrounds. If Nash had been able to keep up with those kinds of surprises - as the second half of all his retail albums have been known to do - IV Play likely wouldn't be as boring as it is.

I feel like I'm being kind when I say the stunt casting on the guests is one of the least valuable thing that's happened to an R&B album in a while. Jay-Z basically just does a wealthy 45 year old's impersonation of 2 Chainz - he'll show up later alongside Beyoncé, whose demands of rachetness appear in service of the more vulnerable moments of her HBO documentary - and Fabolous is the anti-serum that defeats whatever positive lasting impression "Slow It Down" hoped of having (sadly, without him the song's pretty damn good).

But the guests aren't the only one dragging this album down. A lot of these songs start out with interesting ideas before failing to capitalize on them, whether through repetitive natures or childish lyrics. "Pussy" is a song that attempts to raise the stakes from "Equestrian" (a song that's about the way you ride, and can't help but be inferior to Ciara's own Dream song, "Ride") by riding the chorus "Got my left hand on her booty / Got my right hand on her pussy" into the ground. Somewhere, that's probably totally interesting as a one-off ad-lib from Cam'ron or Riff Raff, but do I want to listen to The-Dream sing about it for two minutes interrupted by a neat Pusha T verse and an annoying Big Sean one?

I love "New Orleans" and "IV Play"; "Y'all" from the deluxe edition is a goofy example of The-Dream's R. Kelly fanaticism as he yells for nearly six minutes about how much his fans mean to him; think "Real Talk". There are a lot of moments here that are growers if for no other reason than Dream's ability for cramming songs full of mini-hooks, but again, thanks to the constantly dreary atmosphere The-Dream's lyrics often come off as totally absurd. His status in the hallways of record labels has been of the utmost for the longest time strictly because of his ability to lead the charge. Here, The-Dream's just following others' lead, and not the ones you'd expect like Miguel.

He sounds bored. So am I.




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55. "This album is horrible"
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56. "IV Play: Redux"
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So, as a huge fan of The-Dream, I was disappointed with how IV Play turned out. Luckily he put out the Climax EP and had a few recent songs that didn't make any project. Using those and what I thought was best joints off IV Play, I came up with IV Play: Redux. These are the songs I settle on and the order I have them in now, but I may need to adjust the order to make it more complete.

1. IV Play
2. Com'on
3. Body Work/Fuck My Brains Out
4. Dope Bitch
5. Equestrian
5. Roc
6. Where Have You Been
7. Loving You/Crazy
8. Tron
9. Michael
10. New Orleans
11. Psycho
12. Slow It Down
13. Thirsty Whore
14. Kill The Lights

  

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57. "I can't understand how body work/fuck your brains out didn't make"
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anything...than he leave off "cmon" and "thirsty bitch" off the real album..there better than just about anything on the album.

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58. "yeah. if what i posted above was the real album..."
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(maybe in some other track order though) people would be hype.

it's like, i know artists sometimes don't wanna fuck w/ old songs for new projects...but when the songs are THAT good...put em out on an album!

  

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59. "Yea I admired RCA/future for that on Pluto"
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Bout half iof it was mixtape tracks and it wasn't any worse off for it

  

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CMcMurtry
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60. "It's a lose/lose situation"
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If they don't put the song on the album, then people are upset. If they do, people are mad they aren't hearing all new material (see MDTBF).

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