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Binlahab
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"gatDAMN quincy jones is a national treasure!"


  

          

that top 15 MJ post had me going over a few things & i mean...honestly

be HONEST

would MJ still have been MJ w/o quincy? maybe

but that music...its so damn timeless

goodness

who is on that level now? MAYBE timbo?

MAYBE.

a dude that can come in & collab w/ the artist and make not just hits but like...songs you remember forever?

i dunno man but quincy is a beast


do or die

  

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Pharrell > Timbaland
Apr 23rd 2013
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Pharell, Timbaland, honestly maybe even Just Blaze
Apr 23rd 2013
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Timbo, maybe Pharrell, MAYBE...
Apr 23rd 2013
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Just Blaze, No!
Apr 24th 2013
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I don't think so....
Apr 24th 2013
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he is indeed awesome.
Apr 23rd 2013
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what a joke thread? where would Quincy jones be without
Apr 23rd 2013
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quincy coaxed those performances out of MJ.
Apr 23rd 2013
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Quincy didn't do nothing and MJ told a Producer the real deal
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RE: what a joke thread? where would Quincy jones be without
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lol.
Apr 23rd 2013
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why do folks compare dr. dre to quincy jones all the time?
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      because they think it's a gauge of his talent level
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      because Dre's about the closest thing in rap to what Q does.
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      because Dr Dre and Quincy Jones have a team
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      I have an idea
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Great post homie----(Q SWIPE on his greatness, influence, impact....)
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the surface is more than the actuality
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RE: the surface is more than the actuality
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RE: the surface is more than the actuality
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                                                   RE: the surface is more than the actuality
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                                                        ella and basie
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                                                             aretha didn't think much of him
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                          he was a legend BEFORE he got with MJ.
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                               RE: he was a legend BEFORE he got with MJ.
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                               RE: he was a legend BEFORE he got with MJ.
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                                    we all heard the demos.
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                               RE: he was a legend BEFORE he got with MJ.
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                                    RE: he was a legend BEFORE he got with MJ.
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                                    RE: he was a legend BEFORE he got with MJ.
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                                         none of these songs are better than the stuff on OTW or thriller.
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                                              RE: none of these songs are better than the stuff on OTW or thriller.
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                                    *sigh*
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                                         RE: *sigh*
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Maxx...you only slighting Q because he said Mike shouldn't have
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      RE: Maxx...you only slighting Q because he said Mike shouldn't have
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      this is a sice
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      oh for the Record Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones
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      RE: oh for the Record Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones
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           RE: oh for the Record Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones
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                RE: oh for the Record Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones
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                     RE: oh for the Record Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones
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                     RE: oh for the Record Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones
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      RE: this is a sice
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           RE: this is a sice
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      RE: Maxx...you only slighting Q because he said Mike shouldn't have
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      Brothers Johnson Look out of #1 >>> any MJ album w/o Quincy
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           nobody does nothing by themselves really doe
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                RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe
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                                                                  RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe
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                                                                       RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe
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                me bringing up the Brothers Johnson is in response to you
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                     RE: me bringing up the Brothers Johnson is in response to you
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                     RE: me bringing up the Brothers Johnson is in response to you
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                          RE: me bringing up the Brothers Johnson is in response to you
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      Q didn't stop fuckin' with Mike... Mike stopped fuckin' with Q.
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           thank you kap, MJ felt Q was getting way too much credit
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           lol..yeah....here was a quote from Mike about Quincy...
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                Your reply seems to point to my post
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                Warren don't know nothing about No Michael Jackson
Apr 25th 2013
                when I said Q stopped Fukkin with Mike..I meant more on a personal
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                     Warren Man just chill because your tabloid writing is tiring
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                     And now you're just making shit up
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                          I'm saying that fronting on Q's role in Mike's success is idiotic
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                          Take all that up with maxxx.
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                          I'm not taking any corrections...lol
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                          you think you dr.phil in this?
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                          michael got tired of carrying that overblown turkey
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                          RE: I'm saying that fronting on Q's role in Mike's success is idiotic
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                          RE: I'm saying that fronting on Q's role in Mike's success is idiotic
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                          Michael's relationship w/Q was probably better than his with his father
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                               Q took a shot at him after he died
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                          RE: And now you're just making shit up
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                               I love a good armchair psychoanalysis session as much as anyone
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                                    RE: I love a good armchair psychoanalysis session as much as anyone
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                                    Kap stays making sense
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                typical Warren bringing in the tabloid mentality.
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                     none of Mike's solo albums w/o Quincy were as good as the
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                          you double trippin
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See...
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long time ago
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Here's what gets me about Q
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"we are the world."
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      RE: "we are the world."
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           Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie wrote it together
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                RE: Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie wrote it together
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                     you don't nothing turkey
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quincy jones is the greatest music producer ever..and its not even close
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the most overrated Producer
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      overrated compared to whom?? RKelly?
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      i'm older than you and know my stuff
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      NIGGA Quincy Jones HIRED rod Temperton...lmao!!``
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           hired him and sponged off his talents Rod Temperton>>Quincy Jones
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                do you know how Q got that BRAND name?
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                     He was the right Negro at the right time in White America
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<looks at all the maxxx posts>
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and nobody cares about your wack threads
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      <laughs some more>
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Check out Louis Johnson's (Bros. Johnson) view on Q
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he sure is but not for what y'all think
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thank you rev
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man i know the REAL on Q
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Oh...I see...
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      look murph i never said a thing about Quincy Jones personally
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           RE: look murph i never said a thing about Quincy Jones personally
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RE: he sure is but not for what y'all think
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      you just madd that Rev ain't riding with your tired thoughts
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           RE: you just madd that Rev ain't riding with your tired thoughts
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                RE: you just madd that Rev ain't riding with your tired thoughts
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                     RE: you just madd that Rev ain't riding with your tired thoughts
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                          RE: you just madd that Rev ain't riding with your tired thoughts
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I don't think Q has many peers.
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Quincy Jones ain't seeing no Thom bell
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Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones
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goat..those who dont think so should 'beat it' or quit beatin it
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those who know are laughing at you
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      quit beatin..he's the goat producer...everybody knows it
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           in your lame world perhaps
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OCD, how can i explain it?
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lol
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This niggrums is a clown
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RE: This niggrums is a clown
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typical Murph runs behind any ole Ox
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      RE: typical Murph runs behind any ole Ox
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           RE: typical Murph runs behind any ole Ox
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turkey you is wrong
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Recommend his bio Q if you haven't read it
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let's try this another way.
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RE: let's try this another way.
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garbage post and Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones
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      RE: garbage post and Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones
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      my nigga you are just flat out fucking lying now..i'm done
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           turkey shes' out of my life was on off the wall
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           lmao..nigga nobody was playing baby be mine when thriller first came out
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                i said the dj's felt baby be mine was the cut
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           he's always been a fucking joke.
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                so is your singing career Shock
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                     fuck are you talking about, wesley willis?
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                          how youe corny behind stays stanning me
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                               lol. what fucking career?
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                                    Birdman, Birdman, Birdman
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what in the name of all things holy happened in this post?!
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Like you don't know
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RE: what in the name of all things holy happened in this post?!
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lol
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Quincy Jones is Overrated,Overrated,Overrated!!
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seriously....shut and grow up
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Birdman, Birdman, Birdman
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take your meds, smile & shut the fuck up.
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      Birdman, Birdman, Birdman
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           lol.
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atruhead
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1. "Pharrell > Timbaland"
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2. "Pharell, Timbaland, honestly maybe even Just Blaze"
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20. "Timbo, maybe Pharrell, MAYBE..."
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are the only ones to create music that moves beyond certain demos and feels new no matter the era

that's what Bin is getting at

  

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54. "Just Blaze, No!"
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76. "I don't think so...."
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if Pharrell had more work like N.E.R.D. for other artists (people wanted that cookie cutter from him)... he'd have had a shot. But every time he does some other shit, people kind of scoff or don't go running to it as much as the "Boom...Ching" music.

Timbo is close... but I think most of those artists are pigeonholed. And his best... or rather I should say his most interesting work, like Pharrell's, gets overlooked.

neither had a "Mike" to work with.

what works in their favor is that they were "all up in the video" so people remember who they are. but they really had some potential.

Teddy Riley had a shot if he weren't also similarly pigeonholed. I still think Teddy is the most influential producer/artist in R&B music post-1985... his legacy still remains in some shape/form.

  

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3. "he is indeed awesome. "
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>would MJ still have been MJ w/o quincy? maybe
>

yeah. MJ was a talented producer. and he did "triumph" without quincy.
then again, "triumph" isn't as great as OTW or thriller.

it was the right combination.

>but that music...its so damn timeless
>
>goodness
>
>who is on that level now? MAYBE timbo?
>
>MAYBE.


nobody. nobody can be.
his background as a jazz arranger and a dude that did movie scores
gave him a background that nobody can have today.
he made all the songs come to life in a way that other producers couldn't.

and he was amazing b/c he was the one guy that could say,
"MJ, do it again. dig deeper."

timbaland doesn't do that. the neptunes don't do that.




>
>a dude that can come in & collab w/ the artist and make not
>just hits but like...songs you remember forever?
>


yeah. they both have brilliant careers in their own right,
and quincy jones is improperly viewed as some kind of puppet master for mike,
but they both did their best work when they were together.

those songs are magic.

>
>
>do or die

  

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4. "what a joke thread? where would Quincy jones be without"
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Michael Jackson and especially Rod Temperton and jerry hey?

tempeton and hey did the real work with arranging writing and producing. quincy directs, however his team did the real work.

Thom Bell is more of a real producer than Quincy Jones if you wanna get technical.

in hip its only Dr.Dre

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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5. "quincy coaxed those performances out of MJ. "
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he was the guy that would say, "we have a take. gimmie one more."
he told MJ to use his lower register on OTW. he helped him find
a lot of untapped vocal potential.

and to this day, MJ's best vocal performances were on OTW.

and his work doing movie scores certainly helped to bring to life
tracks like "don't stop till you get enough."

yeah, Quincy's team was integral,
but he was the one that guided it all to work.


and as for this...


>quincy directs, however his team did the
>real work.


the same could be said for george clinton,
and nobody doubts his genius.



>Thom Bell is more of a real producer than Quincy Jones if
>you wanna get technical.
>
>in hip its only Dr.Dre

  

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mistermaxxx08
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12. "Quincy didn't do nothing and MJ told a Producer the real deal "
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and I got it on good authority period.

Quincy got more credit than he actually deserved and he knows it.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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6. "RE: what a joke thread? where would Quincy jones be without"
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Tue Apr-23-13 12:34 PM by murph71

          

>Michael Jackson and especially Rod Temperton and jerry
>hey?
>
>tempeton and hey did the real work with arranging writing
>and producing. quincy directs, however his team did the
>real work.

This is what all great producers do Maxx...Stop shitting on Quincy to prop up Mike....


>Thom Bell is more of a real producer than Quincy Jones if
>you wanna get technical.


Bullshit...And I love Thom...But Quincy's jazz run says differently...Trolling, dog...Trolling...


>in hip its only Dr.Dre


Listen....MJ is a music god....So again, no need to catch feelings when someone is trying to prop up a musical treasure who doesn't deserve the shit u flinging...

Quincy has put in the work...He helped MJ become a strong, adequate producer (Triumph) after he schooled him during those Off The Wall sessions...

Mike was already an exceptional talent....But Quincy helped MJ find his inner-greatness...He showed the kid how to be disciplined in the studio and surround himself with the right people...He allowed Mike to be viewed as an adult artist and not just the kid from the Jackson/Jackson 5

MJ didn't become the King of Pop in a vacuum...

And yet, Mike's so GREAT that his legacy is immune to any of these facts^^^^^^

If you have confidence in MJ's GOAT pop legacy, then a post about an 80 year old man who is not long for this earth should not bother u...\

And yet it does...

And we all know why...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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8. "lol."
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i knew this would happen.

  

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9. "why do folks compare dr. dre to quincy jones all the time?"
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>
>in hip its only Dr.Dre?


i promise i will not go into a diatribe
about how much i dislike "the chronic."

i am genuinely curious as to what people hear
that warrants a comparison.


is it because dre's stuff always sounds so "clear?"

  

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10. "because they think it's a gauge of his talent level"
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when really it means 'he makes drum tracks and tells everybody else what to play, which usually is some 3 chord piano part with a bass underneath'
it's actually more of a description of his work methods, which is a lot like what guys like Q did, but he doesn't know nearly enough about music to make that comparison valid

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11. "because Dre's about the closest thing in rap to what Q does."
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which is still really far away.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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14. "because Dr Dre and Quincy Jones have a team"
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that make them each look and sound better than they actual are and thats all i will say on that in public.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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Dr Claw
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50. "I have an idea"
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it is because he might be the closest to what Q does, but also, because he is highly-tied to the ascension of one of the most beloved artists of a genre if not in music (Snoop Dogg to Q's Mike).

there is also the NWA thing.

but you and I jive agree on the Chronic (not that I dislike the music, I actually prefer it to much of its imitators, but I do dislike what it kind of represents in a degree... which you have articulated a number of times)

  

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7. "Great post homie----(Q SWIPE on his greatness, influence, impact....)"
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Respect to the OP....We need to have more of these for our elder GREATS....Q indeed was a beast...Dude is like the black Forest Gump...He's been involved with seemingly every facet of the history of American music...When everybody was shitting on hip-hop in the late 80s, dude was willing to work with OUR MC's....Glad he got inducted in that R&R Hall of Fame...Should have happened a long time ago....

People that shit on this man's accomplishments can't be taken seriously....Here's a US Today piece on dude from March...Says everything about Jones' impact beyond MJ...Dude was overseeing sessions for Miles, Ella, Billy Eckstine, and Frankie S.....Fuck all that blind hate from some folks...

Give him his props before he leaves this earth....Respect them while they are still here....





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The legendary jazz arranger and producer of 'Thriller' and 'We Are the World' has a full slate of projects. And 22 girlfriends.



BEL AIR, Calif. — Quincy Jones turns 80 on Thursday, a milestone he'll celebrate privately with his family. But the storied music impresario has too many friends, protégés, admirers and close business and charity associates to stop there.

He and British actor Michael Caine, born within minutes of each other on opposite sides of the Atlantic, will be toasted April 13 at an all-star benefit in Las Vegas. The close pals, who met 45 years ago when Jones was scoring the soundtrack for Caine's The Italian Job, will cut loose at a second shindig July 24 in London. Another glittery 80th bash for Jones rolls out July 21 in Montreux, with two more slated July 31 and Aug. 1 in Tokyo.

He may be 81 before the Champagne runs out.

"It's all over the world!" Jones marvels. He's quick to point out that the festivities are not retirement parties. "I'm not leaving yet. I look back and it feels like 20 people did this. It's been a life, man! And there's still a lot out there."

Jones will be doing more than blowing out candles this year. He's producing a half-dozen albums by mostly newbies, including composer/pianist Emily Bear, 11, and singer Nikki Yanofsky, 19. Another pairs bebop trumpeter Clark Terry and rapper Snoop Dogg.


His new artist management consultancy handles acts ranging from Pan-Asian girl group Blush to guitar prodigy Andreas Varady, 15. In August, he'll stage the World Peace Concert in Hiroshima.

Jones is also developing four Broadway shows, including one on his life story, and nine movies, from a biopic on Russian poet Alexander Pushkin to tales of Chicago gangsters. And he's composing a musical on the evolution of jazz, his life's passion.

The teenage Jones joined Lionel Hampton's band as a trumpeter and rapidly navigated the jazz world, collaborating with all his heroes: Dizzy Gillespie, Louis Jordan, Count Basie, Duke Ellington, Ella Fitzgerald, Miles Davis, Sarah Vaughan, Louis Armstrong.

One genre couldn't hold him, and Jones made indelible stamps in pop, rap, rock and indefinable fusions. He'll be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on April 18.

"Yeah, 27 years later," he says with a mock sneer. He presented the honor to Ray Charles, his best friend, at the inaugural ceremony in 1986 and has been passed over until now. "But I'm going to be a gentleman. I have a lot of friends there that I don't want to offend. And it's another chance to be in the family with all my brothers — James Brown, Jackie Wilson, people I came up with."

Jones, sipping wine and sampling veggies and guacamole left by his housekeeper, is perched on an ottoman in the huge round living room of his 20,000-square-foot hilltop home, designed by architect Gerald Allison, a fellow alum of Garfield High School in Seattle. Beams separate the domed ceiling into a dozen sections, representing the zodiac and the musical scale.

"In 500 years, we've had only 12 notes to work with," Jones says. "My quest was to hear what everybody has done with those 12 notes and to see what I could do with them."

Those notes took Jones to the Grammy Awards podium 27 times (from a record 79 nominations). He produced Michael Jackson's Thriller, the world's top-selling album, and the all-star We Are the World, the fastest-selling single ever. His name appears as a producer, composer, conductor, arranger or performer on more than 400 albums. He composed roughly 35 film scores.

He co-produced The Color Purple and introduced Oprah Winfrey to a national audience. She earned one of the film's 11 Oscar nominations. He also produced the Broadway version.

He was the first black conductor of the Academy Awards in 1971 and produced the telecast in 1996. TV credits include writing the Sanford and Son theme, the Emmy-winning Roots score and producing The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. He founded Vibe magazine.

The impulse to explore media, geopolitics, social activism, philanthropy and education started at age 13.

"I was reading Omar Khayyam, Kahlil Gibran, Rumi, L. Ron Hubbard, all sorts of philosophy," Jones says. "Bebop cats are like that. Curious. I wanted to know about everything."

Alarmingly, Jones' earliest goal was to hook up with the criminal elements of Chicago's South Side, where his father was a carpenter.

"I wanted to be a gangster until I was 11," he says, flipping through a tattered paperback about underworld figures. "These guys were running the numbers racket in five-and-dime stores. Every day, I saw a dead body. The gangs were organized, very tight. They don't play."

"A gang caught me on the wrong street once and that's how I got my medal," he says, pointing to a scar on his hand where it had been nailed to a fence with a switchblade. "Chicago was rough. It made Harlem and Compton look like Boys Town. I thought it was glamorous: tommy guns and stogies and piles of money in back rooms. They were vicious criminals but we took it for granted, and that's sick."

Had a piano not shifted his focus, "I would have been dead or in prison," Jones says. "As soon as I started playing instruments, I started hearing other instruments, and I fell in love with orchestration. It always fascinated me."

In 1957, he studied composition with renowned teacher Nadia Boulanger in Paris, bringing a classical sensibility to his big-band experience.

"Nadia said she had to treat jazz musicians differently because they shack up with music first, then they court it and marry it later," Jones says. "I said I wanted to go all the way. Instead of just four trombones, four trumpets, five saxes and a rhythm section, I wanted brass, woodwinds, strings. I was digging into the orchestration of Ravel."

His talent and voracious ambition set the stage for decades of challenging and successful projects with the biggest names in entertainment.

"When you work with Ray Charles, Billy Eckstine and Frank Sinatra, and you tell them to jump without a net, you better know what you're talking about," Jones says. "Thank God I was ready for it."

Bono, who teamed with Jones on the Jubilee 2000 campaign to cancel third world debt, says, "No one has made music for six decades, where the sound of those recordings couldn't have been imagined 10 years before. I think Miles had five. But Q, it's six big ones. That's a different level of maestro."

Duality is at the heart of Jones and his best music, says the U2 singer, who hears "a coolness in the way those melodies are dressed, yet the rhythms are in heat. He's been old and young forever — so many years and styles behind him, but still young in the face he presents. He's way beyond establishment but still street. How does he do that? Duality.

"He's been in charge of who is in charge for so long," Bono adds. "If music has had The Chairman, The Boss, Duke, Prince, The King, well, then Quincy Jones is The President."

Ed Eckstine, former president of Mercury Records and son of late swing era singer/bandleader Billy Eckstine, started his career with an 11-year stint as executive vice president of Quincy Jones Productions.

"There must be 28 hours in his day," says Eckstine. "He really doesn't stop. I've known him my entire life and started working for him after he released Body Heat (1974), a transitional album that took him from soundtracks and big bands to the modern age of the record business. He asked me what I wanted to do. I said, 'be a producer.' He said, 'We already have one of those.'

"Quincy had enormous success building his empire, and I was fortunate enough to be his right-hand man," Eckstine says. "He laid the groundwork for my success. It was interesting to watch him in the studio. Just when you think he's not paying attention, he'd say, 'Try this,' and you'd see the voilà moment. He knows how to execute his vision. He's extremely creative, so freaking curious and one of the most positive people I know."


Upbeat and unflappable, Jones' pique flashes only on pet issues of injustice, war and music education, a chief concern of a 400-member consortium he's formed with schools, businesses and such artists as Carlos Santana and Herbie Hancock. He's partnered with Playground Sessions to bring music software to school kids. He's annoyed that the USA lacks a minister of culture (who's better qualified than Q?).

"America has the most beloved and most copied music in the world, and every country knows more about it than we do," he says. The knowledge gap goes beyond jazz or blues. Few rappers realize the genre sprang from West African griots through Delta slave songs to jazz poetry and the comedic trash talk of "the dozens." "I was rapping in 1939. It's old. The roots are complex. And kids don't know."

Jones also gets perturbed on the subject of his most famous studio partner, Michael Jackson, saying, "All these people talk about Michael, and they don't know a damn thing. They weren't there."

He declines to address the particulars of the late pop star's decline, but says, "It's a complicated story. When you get thrown out there at the age of 5, it's hard to take unless you're spiritually grounded."

Jones hasn't escaped misfortune. His mother suffered from mental illness. In 1958, a touring musical went belly-up, stranding him and his band in Europe for 10 months and leaving him with debts that took seven years to repay. A brain aneurysm in 1974 required two operations that left six steel pins in his head. Work stress and his failing marriage to third wife Peggy Lipton triggered a nervous breakdown in 1989.

And today?

"I've never been happier," says Jones, known as much for his social brio and libido as his work ethic. "I party. I got a master's degree in that."

He moves in a circle of stunning diversity, with friends ranging from Bill Clinton, Colin Powell, Jordan's Queen Rania and Nelson Mandela to Bono, Stevie Wonder and Barbra Streisand.

He has seven children, ages 20 to 60, from three wives and two girlfriends. He was romantically involved for six years with Lisette Derouaux, but they hit a snag on the issue of children.

"I can't have a rug rat right now, like cats and dogs, scratching all my (expletive) up," Jones says with a chuckle. "I'm done with that."

Always in search of harmony, Jones "fixed her up," introducing Derouaux to LinkedIn chief Jeff Weiner. They wed and had two children.

Jones is playing the field: "I have 22 girlfriends," he says. That's not a typo.

And why not? He's in fine health. After a recent visit, self-help author Tony Robbins delivered a $22,000 bioDensity exercise machine to Jones' house.

"All the athletes use it," Jones says. "My workouts are 10 minutes and five seconds. Two days ago, I lifted 388 pounds and then 2,200 pounds, almost a ton, but only for five seconds."

He extends his forearm. "Feel that. Isn't that something? The doctor told me, 'I can keep you here until you're 110, if you behave.' Can I start behaving at 109?"

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13. "the surface is more than the actuality"
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and I know the real deal about him in the studio with Michael Jackson, with James Ingram, with Donna Summer and what has been said and how things really went down.

yeah he has had a charm life and career and yet he ain't that deep musically.

like I said put him in a studio up against Thom Bell and you will change your tune big time and it ain't even close.

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Maxx...U have no respect for anyone but your favorites...It pretty evident...

But this is pretty ridiculous even for u...

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its a shame you don't even know the truth and while you went to school for what you got, Homie I knows the real truth from folks who were in the studio when things were going down, and Trust me on this Home Boy Quincy Jones ain't half as deep as the general Public thinks.

i know how he did James Ingram, how things went down with him and MJ. same with DOnna Summers and the Brothers Johnson.

and I know that THom Bell would run Quincy Jones out of a Studio on Arranging, Conducting, playing and Producing, too bad you don't want to believe me and hey thats on you Homie.

Thom Bell would hurt Q's feelings in a studio

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17. "RE: the surface is more than the actuality"
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>its a shame you don't even know the truth and while you went
>to school for what you got, Homie I knows the real truth from
>folks who were in the studio when things were going down, and
>Trust me on this Home Boy Quincy Jones ain't half as deep as
>the general Public thinks.

lol....sure...no way to prove any of that shit....


>i know how he did James Ingram, how things went down with him
>and MJ. same with DOnna Summers and the Brothers Johnson.

U just naming names now...


>and I know that THom Bell would run Quincy Jones out of a
>Studio on Arranging, Conducting, playing and Producing, too
>bad you don't want to believe me and hey thats on you Homie.

This ^^^^, even if I think it's not true, has nothing to do with you shitting on Q because u feel he takes shine away from MJ...

>Thom Bell would hurt Q's feelings in a studio

I've said it before and I'll say it again...We have to respect the true giants while they are still here...U catching feelings over a 80 year old dude whose best days are behind him...And all because you don't want anyone in the shadow of MJ...

Pretty sad, homie....

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turkey you just a Illuminati mascott pure and simple nobody can tell you nothing because you catch the feelings to clutch and don't even know a thing and it shows.


not just naming no Names because I know James Ingram had to give up a piece of the fast version of PYT to get the credit he got. he wrote the fast version because it was identical to "Shes a badd Mamma Jamma" which He wrote, and Played all the instruments on for Carl Carlton.

turkey just stick in your Purple Bubble and gobble up them bubbles because somebody could be telling you the real real and you just a hater and set in it.

i ain't gotta lie on nobody especially what Quincy Jones has reached and accomplished. however he ain't that dude in the studio period.

and i know about his team and how the GRP sound influenced what he ended up doing and i know about GLenn Ballard, ROd Temperton and Jerry Hey being the true wigs in his camp, however he got the bulk of credit and it ain't about Michael because they made a Great team,however MJ himself said Quincy didn't do nothing in the studio.

think what you want Homie.

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19. "RE: the surface is more than the actuality"
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Wait a minute...I'm asking you to give proof of the mess u typed and your comeback is that I'm part of the Illumanati?

ha!

So I was right...U r full of shit...

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turkey what did Quincy Jones exactly do Post Michael Jackson as a Artistic statement but remake all the Brothers Johnson songs he bought in publishing and remake Rock with you? broke New Jack Swing on back on the block and the follow ups mainly all remakes and jive sounding records because Q was never an artist 1)

i got James Ingram's greatest hits from 99 where he covered I believe I can fly and anyway he re arranged the stuff he did with Q and it was noticeable and James Ingram said something to effect of Q not writing a new score of arrangements in 25 years 2)

oh you never heard about Donna Summer and Q getting into it in the studio or Aretha Franklin and Q getting into it? or how Chuck Rainey said that Quincy Jones doesn't do a thing in the studio either huh? 3)

or you never noticed how the songs that Rod Temperton wrote for MJ, George Benson,patti Austin, Brothers Johnson his time with Quincy Jones all sounded like Heatwave? not exactly like Quincy Jones switched up a thing? 4)

dude ain't nobody ever gonna tell the truth about it because Quincy Jones is like a Black "DON" in Hollywood a Made Man if you will, however he ain't do the half of what alot of what he is credited for doing and the hype is bigger than the Have. 5)

Quincy Jones is a Great Arranger, good Producer and even better talent scout or finding songs to fit artists and also strong at finding the right musicians for said Projects, etc.. however he ain't no songwriter and is a decent trumpet player, however he was hip and smart, however he rode with what was happening and much like Dr. Dre he stayed where the action was. 6)

what difference does it make if i go into details or not? you ain't going to believe me no way. however i know the real deal on Q Doggie.

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22. "RE: the surface is more than the actuality"
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>turkey what did Quincy Jones exactly do Post Michael
>Jackson as a Artistic statement but remake all the Brothers
>Johnson songs he bought in publishing and remake Rock with
>you? broke New Jack Swing on back on the block and the follow
>ups mainly all remakes and jive sounding records because Q was
>never an artist 1)


U still not getting it through your obsessive head...

Jones had already made history as an arranger and producer...

Dude was breaking bread in the studio with GIANTS like Louis Armstong, Count Basie, Ella, Frank Sinatra, Miles, ect...This dude was breaking real racial barriers as an executive at record labels and conducting movie soundtracks when black folks were still marching for their rights...

And all you have is what did he do after MJ???

Man...fuck this stupid shit...lol

No disrespect...U sound like a 12 year old fanboy...

This is embarrassing...Even for u...

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turkey you the worst fanboy in this place and funny how MJ brought Q even more prestege because it wasn't like R&B Heads was checking for Q before MJ teamed up with him.

back then maurice White was the hottest game in town.

Quincy wasn't Producing no classic albums prior to when he got with MJ.

Michael Jackson was already a Legend before he worked with Quincy Jones already turkey?

matter of act if your ears are cleaned and good you would hear stuff like "I wanna be where you are" done with Jazz cats behind MJ back in 72 and hear them records and MJ had a full sound and vibe.

Quincy was seen as a Joke in R&B circles back then. yeah the Brothers Johnson hit. however a Michael Jackson was the make or breaker period.

turkey you don't know nothing except if somebody tells you how high to jump and where to go. you ain't even in my league on no music discussion.

Quincy Jones ain't done nothing memorable Post MJ in almost 25 years except remake stuff over and over again.

if he was so great then he would have made an Artistic statement post MJ but he didn't. where is his "Dangerous" Album? where is his "Stranger in Moscow"?

yeah Quincy Jones post MJ is as Blank as Al Capone's Vault when Geraldo Riveria was digging and looking with a flashlight on tv.

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U want me to turn this into a pissing contest between Q and MJ...

And I'm not going for that trap...

I'll just stay with this silly, wacked out thing of you trying to minimize Q like he was some lucky bum...

I'll keep shining a light on this strange, ongoing bullshit...

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he was lucky it ain't like he was on Thom Bell's level or had the skills of Holland, Holland or Lamount Dozier. it ain't like he was exactly taken Tevin Campbell to new heights as a Artist.

Quincy is a very Lucky Cat period.

you can't debate me because you called MJ a Great video artist and you lost a long time ago the argument.

you ain't got no leg to stand on in a debate about MJ period.

acting LIKe MJ didn't work with a Berry Gordy all those Jazz cats at Motown, Holland, Dozier and Holland, Gamble and Huff prior to working with Quincy Jones. miss me with that mess.

Quincy Jones won the cracker Jack Prize times 10 when he worked with MJ.

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>Quincy is a very Lucky Cat period.


Ladies and gentlemen this^^^^^is a man committed to his cause...

No matter how deluded, and bat shit crazy it is...

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turkey you don't know much quincy jones is one lucky turkey period.

you act like this turkey is on holland,dozier and holland or gamble and huff's level

or he was thom bell's level.???

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>
>>Quincy is a very Lucky Cat period.
>
>
>Ladies and gentlemen this^^^^^is a man committed to his
>cause...
>
>No matter how deluded, and bat shit crazy it is...


Agreed!

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what other act has quincy worked with and gotten same results?

please tell?

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give me the night (george benson)
little richard's king of the gospel singers

all these albums are worthless?

im not saying everything he did was golden, but no one produces classic after classic. plus q's career is pretty diverse - he wasnt just a producer, he was an arranger, scorer - he wore a lot of hats. and he wore too many of them well to pass it off as just luck. maybe he did get lucky, but its what he did with that luck that counts. yeah thom bell isnt as well known, but he worked in a narrower field than q did... you could say that maybe q brought too much of his jazz 'classiness' to R&B and funk (im thinking of rufus' masterjam) but even then, he got it right on thriller and off the wall and the brothers johnson so.... plus, he produced aretha's angel!

  

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and Rod Temperton was the main piece aside from MJ with off the wall and thriller.

as a arranger andd knowing how to put certain musicians for certain pieces and finding songs, Q was important however overrated producer and lucky

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23. "he was a legend BEFORE he got with MJ. "
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>turkey what did Quincy Jones exactly do Post Michael
>Jackson as a Artistic statement but remake all the Brothers
>Johnson songs he bought in publishing and remake Rock with
>you? broke New Jack Swing on back on the block and the follow
>ups mainly all remakes and jive sounding records because Q was
>never an artist 1)



he was an awesome bandleader and arranger. wrote some dope tv and movie scores, too.

no, he never did anything better than OTW.
but neither did MJ. that's not saying anything.




what is a producers job?
he's responsible for a lot of things.

finding the right tunes?
check.

putting the band together?
check.

getting the best performance possible out of all the artists?
check.

(MJ talked about this in his book. about how Quincy pushed him.
How Quincy brought together the right team of musicians.
How Quincy would make adjustments to bring the song to life...
"this song is in the wrong key. you need a string arrangement here."


MJ was always a gifted vocalist. and he started to develop his adult voice with the Jacksons. but who do you think got him to sing on the lower end of his tenor in OTW?
that was Quincy. And you can tell b/c on triumph he sings on the upper end of his tenor.
OTW had the best vocal performances.



and obviously, Q had a great team.
but so did George Clinton. doesn't take away from what he did.



who pushed MJ to come through with a rock song like "beat it."
MJ had it, but wouldn't release it.




they brought out the best in each other.
neither one of them ever topped OTW.
it was, indeed, magic.



  

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24. "RE: he was a legend BEFORE he got with MJ. "
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Don't even bother dog...U make too much sense....

He's too obsessed with MJ that he's fearful of giving props to a legit musical treasure...This dude talking about Donna Summers and Aretha stories as if that was the first time in music history that a producer got into it with artists...lol...

It's sickening...He doesn't understand that praising Q doesn't have an effect on MJ's GOAT pop shine...

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28. "RE: he was a legend BEFORE he got with MJ. "
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neither one of you turkeys know what you are talking about and can't talk no music at all. matter of fact it ain't even about MJ, as it is about the fact that Q gets more credit for things he doesn't even deserve.

i can break down the Rhythm Arrangements and parts of songs where I know Q didn't do a thing, but you jive turkeys gonna support that mess at all costs.

where is Quincy Jones's Great solo albums and career?

all I get is plea copping about him being Old and whatnot, still this turkey had T Pain, and ticke wrecking classic songs like it was nobody's business and grinning ear to ear.

Quincy was known before MJ, however After MJ he was made into something that made him untouchable and he knows it.

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33. "we all heard the demos. "
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>i can break down the Rhythm Arrangements and parts of songs
>where I know Q didn't do a thing, but you jive turkeys gonna
>support that mess at all costs.
>


we know MJ was a great songwriter.
we know he wrote the rhythm arrangements. it was in the liner notes.
and i believe he got co-producer credit on "don't stop till you get enough."

MJ was a skilled producer.
and a great singer.

all of that is true.


and yet, MJ's best songs were done with quincy jones.





>where is Quincy Jones's Great solo albums and career?
>
>all I get is plea copping about him being Old and whatnot,
>still this turkey had T Pain, and ticke wrecking classic songs
>like it was nobody's business and grinning ear to ear.
>
>Quincy was known before MJ, however After MJ he was made into
>something that made him untouchable and he knows it.

  

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26. "RE: he was a legend BEFORE he got with MJ. "
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you never heard "Show you the way to go" with Gamble and Huff Huh?

Destiny was done before Off the wall and Triumph was a self produced Jacksons album and did you not hear "Heartbreak Hotel" or time waits for no one"?

what Murph got you on the payroll to type that wackness?

you is a Fake Michael Jackson fan who can't even think or type out anything for yourself and your ears are full of super glue.

you ain't never heard those Jackson 5 sessions or those old MJ record when Motown had Jazz cats like the mizell brothers wilton felder amongest others playing on those sessions.


Michael Jackson ain't never said that no Quincy Jones did anything for him in the studio, etc...

Quincy said lets get a rock track and MJ brought Beat it.

Quincy didn't want Billie Jean or Smooth Criminal and MJ had the guide and knew what worked.

you just don't even know and it shows. i only like talking with real MJ fans, not Imposters like these two back to Back jive turkeys

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29. "RE: he was a legend BEFORE he got with MJ. "
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Gamble and Huff was still running that show, Maxx....

After that, yeah Mike and the brothers indeed got more into the songwriting and production on Destiny...But MJ really started getting taken seriously as a producer on that Triumph album...

All that other shit u talking is just that...bullshit...

Again, I'm not falling into this sickening trap, dog...Just admit that you hate to give props to Q because u think it will hurt MJ...Which is the silliest idea ever, right?

Don't answer that...

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31. "RE: he was a legend BEFORE he got with MJ. "
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oh i know about MJ with gamble and Huff however MJ got alot of pointers working with them. "Destiny" MJ got it going as a songwriter, Producer, Him and Randy on Shake your body down to the ground wants a word with you as well as "thats what you get for being Polite and Push me away with the Clarie Fisher strings.

with triumph especially on "Heartbreak Hotel" show me where Quincy Jones was associated with a More dynamic song since then? please do?

"Can you feel it" the anthem and a catchy Pop Hook and Groove and no Q whatsoever involved.

and that was MJ on his Hobby time because MJ records with his Brothers are treated as such unlike the Holy Grail 3 of Off the wall, thriller and Bad and sometimes Dangerous.

Quincy Jones was a Lucky turkey because he knew he wasn't even the conversation for Producers back then like a Maurice White, Nile Rodgers, and a few others

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34. "none of these songs are better than the stuff on OTW or thriller. "
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>
>with triumph especially on "Heartbreak Hotel" show me where
>Quincy Jones was associated with a More dynamic song since
>then? please do?
>
>"Can you feel it" the anthem and a catchy Pop Hook and Groove
>and no Q whatsoever involved.
>



>Quincy Jones was a Lucky turkey because he knew he wasn't even
>the conversation for Producers back then like a Maurice White,
>Nile Rodgers, and a few others


yes, MJ and Q brought out the best in each other.
neither one ever topped the work they did together.

  

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43. "RE: none of these songs are better than the stuff on OTW or thriller. "
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you tripping dangerous>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>every Qincy Jones album from back on the block through soul bosa nova.

stranger in moscow>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>better than any new song associated with Q since he stopped working with MJ. only two Q songs have been good over the past 20 years and they were " you pt a move on my heart tamia written by rod temperton and heaven's girl written by R.Kelly the rest Q done had average to clunkerville

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32. "*sigh*"
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>you never heard "Show you the way to go" with Gamble and
>Huff Huh?
>


a great song from an inconsistent album.



>Destiny was done before Off the wall and Triumph was a
>self produced Jacksons album and did you not hear "Heartbreak
>Hotel" or time waits for no one"?
>

great albums, still not better than OTW.






>you is a Fake Michael Jackson fan who can't even think or type
>out anything for yourself and your ears are full of super
>glue.
>


let's not do this again.

i obviously love MJ.
i obviously have done a significant amount of research on the music.
let's not do this again.



>
>Michael Jackson ain't never said that no Quincy Jones did
>anything for him in the studio, etc...

he said in his book that "triumph" was a great confidence builder
b/c Quincy Jones wasn't there to correct his mistakes.

he also said in that book that Quincy was the one that made him do take after take
in order to get the vocal track on "lady in my life."




>Quincy didn't want Billie Jean or Smooth Criminal and MJ had
>the guide and knew what worked.
>

yes, they did used to disagree on things.
Quincy said, "the only way this song will work is if it has a unique sonic quality.
he's the one that said to 'put it on the small speakers. if it sounds good on that,
you know you got it right'"

he worked with the drummer and engineer to make sure that MJ's musical ideas
for the drum track came across perfectly.

in other words, it was a collaborative effort.
Quincy was no pupeteer.
but puffy, he ain't.



>you just don't even know and it shows. i only like talking
>with real MJ fans, not Imposters like these two back to Back
>jive turkeys


really?
not again. we've had this conversation already.

  

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44. "RE: *sigh*"
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quincy didn't do nothing for michael except get a balance of songs, but he didn't write no songs and mj worked with q's team and the stuff produced itself.

michael wrote and created his songs, and Quincy jones got too much credit period and still does.

Quincy ain't showed me nothing in nearly 25 years

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66. "Maxx...you only slighting Q because he said Mike shouldn't have"
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had all those kids around him....and Q stopped fukkin with Mike because he felt Mike was on some other shit...

If that had never happened you'd be praising Quincy Jones as the greatest ever....

  

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67. "RE: Maxx...you only slighting Q because he said Mike shouldn't have"
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>had all those kids around him....and Q stopped fukkin with
>Mike because he felt Mike was on some other shit...
>
>If that had never happened you'd be praising Quincy Jones as
>the greatest ever....


And this^^^^is true, too...

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70. "this is a sice"
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at best, Maxxx is saying this because cats downplay Mike's own input to those albums like Q came up with all the hits (songwriting), and actually give Rod Temperton and Q the credit.

  

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73. "oh for the Record Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones"
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and that is the truth on the real.

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144. "RE: oh for the Record Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones"
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>and that is the truth on the real.

Nooooooooo. Quincy got the musicians that made Rods songs work.

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148. "RE: oh for the Record Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones"
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wrong rod already had the songs and music that worked those joints were heatwave outtakes

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152. "RE: oh for the Record Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones"
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>wrong rod already had the songs and music that worked those
>joints were heatwave outtakes

Im talking about the MJ albums. Quincy selected those musicians.


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153. "RE: oh for the Record Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones"
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>>wrong rod already had the songs and music that worked
>those
>>joints were heatwave outtakes
>
>Im talking about the MJ albums. Quincy selected those
>musicians.


He knows what u are talking about...lol

He just doesn't give a fuck...

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156. "RE: oh for the Record Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones"
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without Rod Temperton Quincy Jones wasn't much from 79 til now. and that is a fact and you can quote me.

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94. "RE: this is a sice"
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>at best, Maxxx is saying this because cats downplay Mike's
>own input to those albums like Q came up with all the hits
>(songwriting), and actually give Rod Temperton and Q the
>credit.


Yeah...we all know that...The trouble is nobody in this thread is downplaying Mike like that...Nobody is saying Q made MJ...Nobody is saying any of that...And if someone were to go that path I would be one of the first to call bullshit...

But in Maxx's obsessive world he thinks anytime you big up Q for his own accomplishments, u r dissing MJ...

In fact, he takes a similar path with Prince...It's quite weird, but that's been Maxx's mantra for a long time on this board...

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97. "RE: this is a sice"
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because Q does get that kind of acknowledgement period. the fact you got turkeys thinking quincy is some incredible producer speaks to that

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72. "RE: Maxx...you only slighting Q because he said Mike shouldn't have"
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wrong because its the music and Quincy didn't do a thing after he parted ways with MJ. dangerous>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all them Quincy Jones albums combined from back on the block through soul bosa nova.

and Quincy Jones didn't exactly do right by Tevin Campbell musically either.

turkeys who think they know don't even gots a clue.

Q is arugably the most overrated Producer ever. he is more of a Quaterback Coach than a Actual coach. he is Norv Turner to Thom Bell's Bill Bellicek

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80. "Brothers Johnson Look out of #1 >>> any MJ album w/o Quincy"
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and really you're actually fabricating an argument here.... You're claiming that Quincy Jones is assigned credit for things he shouldn't be..

I don't think anyone thinks that Quincy Jones wrote all Michael Jackson's hit songs...in fact, anyone who would thnk that obviously doesn't know too much about the issue.

Quincy is given credit as a producers.... The albums he produced speak for themselves... his accomplishments as a producer....even before he worked with Mike speak for themselves...

Michael Jackson was not a multi instrumentalist who wrote...produced...played the instruments on..everything on his album.... he just wasn't that..

Nothing Michael Jackson did after working with Quincy Jones would have been able to stand on it's own merit as Great if not for the fact it was done by Michael jackson who had built a reputation for success.... Dangerous...none of that shit after that was groundbreaking honestly.... it was Michael Jackson and whatever he did at that time was considered great...and he was still a Bad mofo as a performer and singer... Don't get it twisted Mike fukkin with Q and Temperton made history..... Mike fukkin with Teddy Riley gave him a bit of a rebirth...

Mike ain't do that shit by hiself...

  

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82. "nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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and you need to sit on down because you ain't never given MJ his due anyway. the brothers johnson were a good 2nd tier act who had some big hits and moments with Louis Johnson grooving however nobody sits around acting like the Brothers Johnson were seeing Earth,wind and fire, isley brothers, P Funk, the commodores, cameo, etc.. back in the day.

the Brothers Johnson while talented were just another act who loved themselves some Sly and the family and the family stone grooves.

and Michael Jackson was already a Legend before he worked with Quincy Jones, Ok Homie? don't get it twisted.

dangerous was better than Back on the block and all the stuff Q has put out since 89 period.

Michael didn't have to play no all instruments etc.. to Prove how badd he was,shows how limited you are on knowing about greatness.

and i acknowledged Rod Temperton if you bothered to read.

come at me like you do Kap and its on like Popcorn.


turkey please destiny and Triumph>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Brothers Johnson records. and acting like MJ didn't give the Brothers Johnson "this had to be" for there Light up the night album. miss me on that Yo,



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84. "RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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This^^^^^is just not true...There are acts that are self-contained...Artists that can go in the studio and knock out an album all by themselves.....From Stevie to Todd Rundgren to Prince....Hell even Ray Parker Jr....

Don't try to use that angle....

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85. "RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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nobody does it all alone acting Like Prince ain't have no Andre cymone on his early stuff or Morris day? or dez dickerson? Negro Please!

Prince is talented cat, however he jacked so many folks in Minneapolis he truly needed Big Chick because alot of cats wanted to throw him into some Purple Kool aid.

that instrumental part of "I wanna be your lover" was done by some local cats that ain't even Prince on that instrumental part of the song near the end.

Stevie Wonder had folks in the studio as well

same with Todd and Ray Parker Jr.

you still fall for the tag of Produced, Arranged, Composed and Performed Huh? Lauyren Hill had that tag as well and others have as well.

wake up. now yeah its dude's words and music, however folks be having others in the lab.

everybody had another ear be it a musician buddy or a A&R head who said that song is cool or you need to re work it.

Michael Jackson did everything on Heartbreak Hotel but play the instrumentation, however he was a Keyboard player, and he set the music and direction of said material however he needed another ear and eyes on things. nobody ever does it all alone, that is the biggest Myth in the industry

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87. "RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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>nobody does it all alone acting Like Prince ain't have no
>Andre cymone on his early stuff or Morris day? or dez
>dickerson? Negro Please!
ong is cool or you need to re work it.

U really want to believe this? Here's the thing, Maxx...

Prince walked into his own home studio and wrote, performed, produced, arranged and recorded 99.9 percent Dirty Mind beyond Fink's keyboard part in "Head"....

He did the same thing with 1999 (beyond Dez' GREAT guitar solo on "LRC," but nothing Prince couldn't do...That was just dude paying Dez back for his hard work), Controversy and on and on...

We've heard the stories from his own bandmates..On how he recorded "The Beautiful Ones" in 1 day by himself (Wendy testifies to that)...

Really, I got no time to go over this with u...I know it's some soul crushing shit...U can go ahead and start typing about how Prince stole from so and so...Because that's the only thing u got at this point...




>
>Michael Jackson did everything on Heartbreak Hotel but play
>the instrumentation, however he was a Keyboard player, and he
>set the music and direction of said material however he needed
>another ear and eyes on things. nobody ever does it all alone,
>that is the biggest Myth in the industry


Mike wrote some of those great songs..And hummed out some of those GREAT melodies to musicians....He was no keyboard player...He had people do that for him for those Off The Wall and Thriller demos....And that was cool...Because MJ never claimed to be about that...He had his own bag...And that bag was EPIC...

But yeah....Certain people are capable of doing it alone...Ain't no myth about that when it comes to certain acts...

Prince being one of them....

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89. "RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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Andre cymone was on the first two Prince abums. He wrote "Do Me baby" as well.

Andre co Wrote "uptown" as well.

Morris day was playing drums on Lets work and a few other things.

Dez never got no credit with his background vocals clear as day on when you were mine.

nobody does it all alone period,

Michael Jackson was a Keyboard player and he did stuff on record.

no MJ wasn't no Greg Philganis, however he could compose on the bamboard.

Prince is talented however he had help on things however selling the 27 instrument one band tag carried over for 30 years and the purple kool aid drinkers slurp that up as fact

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90. "RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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>Andre cymone was on the first two Prince abums. He wrote "Do
>Me baby" as well.


>Andre co Wrote "uptown" as well.
>
>Morris day was playing drums on Lets work and a few other
>things.
>
>Dez never got no credit with his background vocals clear as
>day on when you were mine.
>
>nobody does it all alone period,
>
>Michael Jackson was a Keyboard player and he did stuff on
>record.
>
>no MJ wasn't no Greg Philganis, however he could compose on
>the bamboard.
>
>Prince is talented however he had help on things however
>selling the 27 instrument one band tag carried over for 30
>years and the purple kool aid drinkers slurp that up as fact


U said no artist can do it all...So u really haven't disproved shit...lol...I can literally write down more than 100 songs that Prince walked into the studio and laid down himself...

And u think u schooling me about Dre and Morris?....Man...lol

Listen...P has already proven he can do it on his own....Sure, he had his influences and was inspired by jams with his bandmates....

But u notice Andre didn't sue P...And again....U talking about Morris playing drums (That was "Party Up" not "Let's Work") like P couldn't have done that himself? ....lol

27 instruments? What r u going on about?...lol

Nigga, everyone knew that was some showbiz shit...

But this is what Prince CAN PLAY...


Guitar
Bass
Drums
keyboards/piano

This ^^^^sounds like a one-man band to me....

As for MJ...Cut it out...When Mike was in a deposition in 1993 during that whole songwriting flap, the judge asked him how he creates his music...He revealed he doesn't "play" the music...He told the judge that he sings out the melodies and beatboxes the groove on tape...That in itself is pretty fucking cool...MJ came up with some special melodies without touching an instrument...But he wasn't on no piano...

MJ had his own way of doing things and there's nothing wrong with that...

All this to say, you don't have to make up shit about Mike...I already know how great he was....

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91. "RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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yo alot of cats play the same amount of instruments as Prince. dude from Silk and Johnny Gill can do that and just about anybody who plays the Piano or your general Music teacher because its not that out of the oridinary to play 4 instruments. Prince though had money and hype to make it seem and appear as more than it was.

i know about Party Up long ago, I said Lets work the drums and Morris day played on it. Morris did stuff for Prince on the drums and til this day he is madd he didn't get the starting drum gig for Prince.

interesting thing about Prince is that virtually all the Big songs he has, it seems somebody in some form or fashion had a hand in helping him out.

Andre Cymone ain't have no money to go to court with Prince. also he treated Prince like family and brought him into his home, the saddest Prince story i heard was that it was years before Andre Cymone got a personal tour of Paisley Park the studio after all what Andre did for Prince back in the day.

anyway Prince had help.


i saw that court fottage and I still know MJ played Keyboards and he did. i got some footage of him in the studio on the keys playing which he did for "Stranger in Moscow"

like i said everybody has somebody say yes or no to the stuff, you just don't hear about it and we get the finished product.


Dallas Austin alluded to that in a interview because you know he is a Huge Prince fan and he said everybody has a team, nobody does it alone

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96. "RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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Thu Apr-25-13 12:52 PM by murph71

          

>yo alot of cats play the same amount of instruments as
>Prince. dude from Silk and Johnny Gill can do that and just
>about anybody who plays the Piano or your general Music
>teacher because its not that out of the oridinary to play 4
>instruments. Prince though had money and hype to make it seem
>and appear as more than it was.

We've seen P get down live on all those instruments, Maxx...AND WE'VE SEEN P KILL THEM....Beast on guitar...beast on bass....Beast on piano/keyboard....And pretty fucking dope on drums....

This is not hearsay...This is not rumor...This is not a myth...U acting brand new...We all know how the music business works...They work that hype machine...Everyone knows that whole 27 instrument thing was on some "we counting every keyboard, every type of guitar, every type of percussion, ect, ect..." It just so happened that P plays all those instruments better than most of his peers he came up with....Terry Lewis has noted this many times in interviews...P picked up people's instruments in high school and was making people look silly... Johnny Gill?....lol

U not having a good day...


>i know about Party Up long ago, I said Lets work the drums
>and Morris day played on it. Morris did stuff for Prince on
>the drums and til this day he is madd he didn't get the
>starting drum gig for Prince.


Morris did not play drums on the album and single version of "Let's Work"...That never happened...U r mixing things up again, homie...Morris played on the EXTENDED Remix....Not the album and single track....

Don't believe me...just go to this link...

http://www.princevault.com/index.php/Let%27s_Work



>interesting thing about Prince is that virtually all the Big
>songs he has, it seems somebody in some form or fashion had a
>hand in helping him out.

On some tracks yes? But for the most part P was on some lone wolf shit...He was a control freak in that way...

>Andre Cymone ain't have no money to go to court with Prince.
>also he treated Prince like family and brought him into his
>home, the saddest Prince story i heard was that it was years
>before Andre Cymone got a personal tour of Paisley Park the
>studio after all what Andre did for Prince back in the day.

Always excuses...After Andre left P and became J. Watley's songwriter and producer he was CAKING off...He could have easily taken P to court....And yet, none of that happened...And for good reason....That's because P compensated Dre for his bassline for "Do Me Baby"....

But for the most part this, according to various interviews with band members no longer working with P, this is how, specifically, the Controversy album sessions went (similar to other Prince album sessions...)

QUOTE: "Controversy was largely a solo recording project by Prince, although Bobby Z. (drums), Lisa Coleman (keyboards and background vocals) and Dr. Fink (keyboards) all appear on the final track, Jack U Off. Additionally, Lisa Coleman also sings background vocals on Controversy and Ronnie Talk To Russia."

So yeah...P could do it along beyond one track here and there...

Cry, homie...


>anyway Prince had help.

On certain tracks, yep...When Prince was in the mood to collaborate (most of the unreleased material from the Dream Factory sessions are a big example of this) he def. logged studio time with his band members...

But for the most part P was knocking shit out himself except for those live horns on certain tracks....

>i saw that court fottage and I still know MJ played Keyboards
>and he did. i got some footage of him in the studio on the
>keys playing which he did for "Stranger in Moscow"
>
>like i said everybody has somebody say yes or no to the
>stuff, you just don't hear about it and we get the finished
>product.
>
>
>Dallas Austin alluded to that in a interview because you know
>he is a Huge Prince fan and he said everybody has a team,
>nobody does it alone


Again...Bullshit...U notice that every time u tell this tale it's always hearsay...Or it's "I Got footage..." It's always stories...lol...There's no footage of Mike playing keyboards....It doesn't exist...That was never Mike's bag...I'm sure he picked up a few chords here and there...But he wasn't composing on piano...He even admitted that...WE HAVE PROOF OF THAT MAXX....

And really...Does this hurt MJ? No...Mike is the greatest entertainer of all time...And an exceptional songwriter....

As I've always said....He doesn't need your help....

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98. "RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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wrong turkey because andre cymone even said he helped prince on the title track controversy.

morris day didn't get credit for playing on lets work, there is reason why prince ain't put out new remasters etc.. because he would have to give up them credits.

Prince is more known for his sound on a whole. very good on guitar, real good on bass, keys is his most known thing. average drummer better programmer, average singer.

prince blending it as one is what made him get to where he got 80-85 on the real.

it was the combo not any one thing.

michael jackson on that special back in 03 called number ones which had pharell and beyonce talking about him has footage of mj in the studio playing keys.

you don't know much about no mj.

Andre cymone had a hand in prince's first 4 albums period.

however andre loves prince like a brother and won't air on him like that plus prince had the mob and jew protection back then big business and even bigger to sell the tag"produced,arranged,composed and performed"

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102. "RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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Thu Apr-25-13 02:09 PM by murph71

          

>wrong turkey because andre cymone even said he helped prince
>on the title track controversy.
>
>morris day didn't get credit for playing on lets work, there
>is reason why prince ain't put out new remasters etc..
>because he would have to give up them credits.

WTF...this is low even for u...lol...He won't put out remasters because of credits????? Ha!

This ^^^^ is what I'm talking about....U don't care about facts...U don't care about anything..U just hear those unreasonable voices in your head...So let me try this again...

MORRIS IS CREDITED AS THE DRUMMER ON THE EXTENDED VERSION OF "LET'S WORK"...This has been well documented...But on the album version P PLAYED EVERYTHING....And you can tell because the actual beat on the original "Let's Work" shifts into a different feel on the extended remix...Different groove...It even swings more....

There have been books written about this...Band members who even don't even fuck with Prince anymore have noted this...

Don't believe me...Peep this....

On the making of the Controversy album and "Let's Work" from engineer Bob Mockler...

"Mockler was surprised to learn that Prince had mixed and completely finished some of the tracks at home. "When I heard "Controversy," I asked him, Where did you do this?" *Prince* said, "I did it at home." He had done the track completely by HIMSELF in his home studio...Even though a week had been booked, Prince and Mickler only spent a few days on the four songs that were recorded at Hollywood Sound. "Let's Work," "Ronnie, Talk To Russia," "Jack U Off," for which Prince turned the room into a candle-lit bedroom..."We worked so fast together," recalls Mockler. IT WAS JUST HIM AND ME IN THERE PRINCE WOULD JUST GO AND PUT THE DRUM PART ON TAPE, AND THEN HE'D PUT EVERYTHING TO THE DRUMS, PLAYING THE BASS PART, THEN A KEYBOARD PART, THEN THE GUITAR PART, BACKGROUND VOCALS, A ROUGH LEAD VOCAL. EVERYTHING WAS IN HIS HEAD. WE'RE OUT THERE IN A DAY WITH A FINISHED TRACK!"---Mockler

Again, what part of this^^^^r u not getting?

P indeed worked with band members in the studio from time to time...But from "I Wanna be Your Lover" to "When Doves Cry" to "If I Was Your Girlfriend" ect, ect...P was more than capable of going into the studio and knocking out songs by himself...

Why is this hard to understand? Why are you going on about this? Like I said, you don't have to believe me...Just believe the actual info out there...

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103. "RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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that whole instrumental part of i wanna be your lover where its all instrumental was done by locals back in minneapolis.

cats in minneapolis laughed at that they called the tag "produced,arranged,composed and performed"

prince is talented, can play etc.. however the original version of kiss and Jamie Starr is a Thief always applies.

turkey had his own sister suing him over u got the look for the lyrics.

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104. "RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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Thu Apr-25-13 02:50 PM by murph71

          

>that whole instrumental part of i wanna be your lover where
>its all instrumental was done by locals back in minneapolis.


Proof?....


>cats in minneapolis laughed at that they called the tag
>"produced,arranged,composed and performed"


Proof?

>prince is talented, can play etc.. however the original
>version of kiss and Jamie Starr is a Thief always applies.

Thief? He gave credit to Mazzarti...But the actual "Kiss" song P still wrote....He simply took their vocals off, took out the bassline and went with that David Z mix (gave him credit too)...

So again...WHAT IN THE FUCK R U TALKING ABOUT????


>turkey had his own sister suing him over u got the look for
>the lyrics.


Dog...u so desperate it ain't even funny....That case was dismissed, Maxx...The same way MJ won his plagerism lawsuit (remember that?)

Again...i give you facts....And all you can do is pull shit out of your ass...

Damn dog...this is a bad look for u, dog...

Real talk...

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106. "RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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david z produced the song and the song lyrically didn't change a whole lot. terry casey's background vocals are still on that one and jerk out.

prince jacked kiss period.

you is a purple diabetic in a purple coma nobody could bring you back from the purple fog dawg.

prince never tells the truth about the music because he knows.

talented cat however he ate off alot of cats plates and everybody knows that prince always had the recorders on.

that ain't no secret. notice after the wave of andre,dez, jam and lewis, jesse all left so did prince's grooves. he been hit and miss on a whole for over 25 years, no purple ghosts to chew on

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116. "RE: nobody does nothing by themselves really doe"
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>>david z produced the song and the song lyrically didn't
>change a whole lot. terry casey's background vocals are still
>on that one and jerk out.

Oh buddy...U r spitting out shit that everyone knows....

U repeating even what I said...lol...U in rare form right now, Maxx...

>prince jacked kiss period.


Bullshit....He gave credit to David Z....Prince wrote "Kiss," demoed it, and gave the acoustic track to Dave to give to Mazerrati...."Kiss" is the rare instance where an outside producer came up with a rhythm track when it came to Prince....David got arrangement credit and Prince got writing credit...

And the rest is history....But jacked? Nah...that would mean he "stole" Kiss...And that didn't happen...at all...David Z was paid handsomely and credited on the actual album...

>you is a purple diabetic in a purple coma nobody could bring
>you back from the purple fog dawg.

Nope...I know P ain't God...I'm just talking about you bullshitting and lying...

>prince never tells the truth about the music because he
>knows.

lol...


>talented cat however he ate off alot of cats plates and
>everybody knows that prince always had the recorders on.
>
>that ain't no secret. notice after the wave of andre,dez, jam
>and lewis, jesse all left so did prince's grooves. he been hit
>and miss on a whole for over 25 years, no purple ghosts to
>chew on

Um...Dre left after Controversy...After that? 1999, Purple Rain, ect, ect..

And Dez will be the first to tell u he had little to do with Prince's actual recordings beyond playing guitar on "Little Red Corvette," which P did as a favor...

No one is calling Prince a saint...Dude is an asshole...a control freak, ect...

But this^^^has nothing to do with you saying P is not capable of doing it by himself...

U just come off as desperate....

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92. "me bringing up the Brothers Johnson is in response to you"
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insinuating that Quincy didn't do anything production wise other than his work with Mike. That's just not true. Riddiculously not true.


and I love Michael Jackson... I believe he is the greatest entertainer...greatest musical performer ever.

Not sure how many more accolades you could put on a person.

but just like with anything..I don't think one has to lie, or exagerate just to support the argument about Mike's greatness. It's just not ncessary.

  

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93. "RE: me bringing up the Brothers Johnson is in response to you"
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look i dug the brothers johnson, however they were never on mj's level as a artist those cats were touring with billy preston and Q got them for his projects, however they produced "the real thing" and there winners album which in truth didn't sound any different that production Q did on them.

what Q did with the brothers johnson is like larry blackmon with cashflow or rick james with the stone city band its cool however not the finish line.

nobody was saying oh wow quincy jones and the brothers johnson how about him producing other R&B acts?

it wasn't like that back then

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95. "RE: me bringing up the Brothers Johnson is in response to you"
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>insinuating that Quincy didn't do anything production wise
>other than his work with Mike. That's just not true.
>Riddiculously not true.
>
>
>and I love Michael Jackson... I believe he is the greatest
>entertainer...greatest musical performer ever.
>
>Not sure how many more accolades you could put on a person.
>
>but just like with anything..I don't think one has to lie, or
>exagerate just to support the argument about Mike's greatness.
>It's just not ncessary.


Oh....but one must make over the top statements when one is obsessed and beyond reason...

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99. "RE: me bringing up the Brothers Johnson is in response to you"
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turkey you ain't got a foot to stand on this

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100. "Q didn't stop fuckin' with Mike... Mike stopped fuckin' with Q."
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>and Q stopped fukkin with
>Mike because he felt Mike was on some other shit...

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101. "thank you kap, MJ felt Q was getting way too much credit"
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which he was.

Q got tevin campbell and for the past 25 years that mushroom head turkey has stayed covering brothers johnson songs and the soongs Mj didn't write on off the wall and thriller and them joints sound like bad karoke

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109. "lol..yeah....here was a quote from Mike about Quincy..."
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regarding Quincy suggesting that Mike incorporate more hip hop elements in his music. Mike didn't want to do that and said:

"Quincy doesn't understand the business any more. He doesn't know that rap is dead.' But it's OK. It wasn't so obvious then."


lolol... yeah Mike sure was right about that...lol. In hindsight he obviously should have listened to Q about the direction the industry was going because Q was obviously right and Mike was very wrong about what the future of the industry would be about..


my poing about Q not dealing with Mike as much anymore was more about their personal relationship.... They had become very close...almost a father son relationship while they were working together and gaining so much success...

But Quincy Jones is one of a number of other celeb friends of Mike's who began to distance themselves from Mike on a personal level due to their conerns with Mike's behavior....particularly regarding the drug use...the plastic surgery and the situation with children....

Now maybe Q shouldn't have expressed it the way he did in the 2009 Vogue interview...but it's obvious that Q along with others like Diana Ross.... Liz Taylor....although all would have said they were friends of Mike until the end...but all of them and others did distance themselves from Mike due to similar concerns...

from the Vogue interview:

Interviewer: You were there to witness the strange evolution in Michael's appearance. Did you ever step in and saying anything about it? Quincy: Oh, we talked about it all the time. But he'd come up with, "Man, I promise you I have this disease," and so forth, and "I have a blister on my lungs," and all that kind of b.s. It's hard, because Michael's a Virgo, man�he's very set in his ways. You can't talk him out of it. Chemical peels and all that stuff.

Interviewer: Did you believe him about the disease? Quincy: I don't believe in any of that bullshit, no. No. Never. I've been around junkies and stuff all my life. I've heard every excuse. It's like smokers�"I only smoke when I drink" and all that stuff. But it's bullshit. You're justifying something that's destructive to your existence. It's crazy. I mean, I came up with Ray Charles, man. You know, nobody gonna pull no wool over my eyes. He did heroin 20 years! Come on. And black coffee and gin for 40 years. But when he called me to come over to see him when he was in the hospital on his way out, man, he had emphysema, hepatitis C, cirrhosis of the liver, and five malignant tumors. Please, man! I've been around this all my life. So it's hard for somebody to pull the wool over my eyes. But when somebody's hell-bent on it, you can't stop 'em.

Interviewer: But it must've been so disturbing to see Michael's face turn into what it turned into. Quincy: It's ridiculous, man! Chemical peels and all of it. And I don't understand it. But he obviously didn't want to be black.

Interviewer: Is that what it was? Quincy: Well, what do you think? You see his kids?

Interviewer: Did you ever discuss it? Did you ever ask, "Michael, don't you want to be a black man?" Quincy: No, no, no, please. That's not the way you do it.

Interviewer: But he was beautiful before? Quincy: Man, he was the most gorgeous guy.

Interviewer: But he seemed to have some deep-seated issue with how he looked? Quincy: Well, that comes about a certain way. I'm not sure how it happens. I'm just a musician and a record producer. I'm not a psychiatrist. I don't understand all that stuff. We all got problems. But there's a great book out called Too Soon Old, Too Late Smart. Did you see that? That book says the statute of limitations has expired on all childhood traumas. Get your stuff together and get on with your life, man. Stop whinin' about what's wrong, because everybody's had a rough time, in one way or another.

  

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113. "Your reply seems to point to my post"
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but it doesn't actually address what I said in any useful way.

>regarding Quincy suggesting that Mike incorporate more hip
>hop elements in his music. Mike didn't want to do that and
>said:

If you were honest, you would have produced the entire quote in which Q explicitly states "MICHAEL FIRED ME."

Whether or not Michael turned out to be right about the health and dominance of the hip-hop genre is irrelevant.*

All that shit you typed/pasted afterwards is irrelevant too. I'm sure if Mike had wanted to keep working with Quincy, Quincy would have found a way to deal with any reservations he had about MJ's supposed lifestyle.

The bottom line being: It was Michael who elected to end their working relationship, not Q. And you have offered nothing to disprove that very simple statement.





*Frankly, that quote has always seemed slightly suspect to me... so Michael sacked Q because Q wanted to do hip-hop and Mike thought that rap was dead? And so who does Mike replace Quincy with? TEDDY RILEY--the hottest producer in hip-hop!

Yeah... that makes a lot of sense.

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"Warren don't know nothing about No Michael Jackson"


          

maybe Marlon Jackson but not certainly michael Jackson.

Quincy never wanted to end that gig are you kidding me? Mike made Q so much Money it wasn't even funny

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119. "when I said Q stopped Fukkin with Mike..I meant more on a personal"
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basis. and regardless of who fired who....considering Q's comments about what Mike was doing to himself and his illness.... I'm pretty sure that Mike prefered not having someone around who was going to be a straight shooter with him about what he was doing.

Mike ended up with nothing but yes men around him and people who had no problem compromising their integrity just to get paid... People who weren't gonna check Mike...

Q was not one of those people.

and I was not dishonest about the quote...as I was quoting MIKE not Q about the end of their relationship....

Mike was a drug addict who maimed himself...and had questionable relations with children.... That concerned Q, and Mike would have been better off not alienating those who were warning him about his behavior...

he may be alive today if he'd kept those types around him.


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120. "Warren Man just chill because your tabloid writing is tiring"
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do you know how many mouths ate off of MJ because of his talents?

and Quincy Jones got yes people around him, who told him it was hip to have AKon doing Brothers Johnson covers in 2012 again?

MJ was a Musical Genius and all we know is his music we will never know about anything on his personal life.

the Man touched the world and moved people and that is all you need to say and I find your wording offensive as all get out.

this is a Music board not the national Enquier and its wrong and out of pocket Man.

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123. "And now you're just making shit up"
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You're suggesting that Michael fired Q because Q was checking him on his lifestyle.

I've never seen ANY quote to support this as being what happened. I mean, I can understand why someone might ASSUME that's what happened, but for now I would rather deal with what we know as FACT and not assumption.

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126. "I'm saying that fronting on Q's role in Mike's success is idiotic"
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>You're suggesting that Michael fired Q because Q was checking
>him on his lifestyle.
>


>I've never seen ANY quote to support this as being what
>happened. I mean, I can understand why someone might ASSUME
>that's what happened, but for now I would rather deal with
>what we know as FACT and not assumption.

I'm saying it doesn't matter why Mike and Q stopped working together because what they accomplished together speaks for itself and Mike DID NOT make anywhere close to that impact after Q wasn't working with him.

I'm also saying that it's well documented that Q had problems with how Mike was living...it's also well documented that he was not alone in that conern..it's also well documented that Q had no problem sharing his concerns and wasn't worried about sugar coating it. ..it's also well documented that EVERY SINGLE PERSON who shared that concern about Mike, ended up getting pushed OUT of Mike's life...but Mike himself.

Drug addicts and people with the serious problems that Michael had do that. They push away those people who are expressing real concern for them and replace them with yes men who are only there to get a check.


why they weren't working together is irrelevant...all that matters is Michael Jackson is dead...because of a variety of events that would have been less likely to happen if he had kept people like Quincy Jones in his PERSONAL circle....fukk the professinoal...you always want people around you who are gonna give you real talk..Q did that...Mike pushed him away as he did with so many others, and it was a mistake to do so.

  

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127. "Take all that up with maxxx."
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I have no dog in that fight.

My only contribution to this discussion was to correct your assertion that "Q stopped fucking with Mike" when the fact is that it was Michael who ended the relationship with Quincy, not vice versa.

Just take the correction and move on... I've got better things to do than participate in this kind of pointless argument.

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133. "I'm not taking any corrections...lol"
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>I have no dog in that fight.
>
>My only contribution to this discussion was to correct your
>assertion that "Q stopped fucking with Mike" when the fact is
>that it was Michael who ended the relationship with Quincy,
>not vice versa.

my point stands...why they stopped their dealings is irrelevant... Quincy Jones wasn't fukkin with Mike on a personal level.... Q expressed his concerns about him..as did many many others..

that was point point from the begining.....

you're trying to parse my words looking for an opportunity to correct Warren Coolidge on something.... not this time.




>Just take the correction and move on... I've got better things
>to do than participate in this kind of pointless argument.

do you think you're adding somethng to the discussion by waiting in the weeds trying to corrent Warren Coolidge on something??

lol..

Quincy Jones....Diana Ross....even Barry Gordy.....Elizabeth Taylor...Brooke Shields... countless other people who during a time were close to Mike....STOPPED FUKKING WITH MIKE...

all of them...

STOPPED FUKKIN WITH MIKE...

I'm not talking about no business shit....and I'm not talking about WHY he wasn't WORKING with any of those folks. I'm talking about them no longer being close to Mike and in his life in a meaningful way. All of those people at one time or another were concerned about what Mike was doing and those were people who actually cared about the guy and are people he should not have been estranged from. But unfortunately they were NOT FUKKIN WITH MIKE ANYMORE.

That was some real shit Quincy was saying in that Vogue interview. Fuck that excuse making shit ...Mike had serious serious problems..and had people around him who at the least werent' helping and at the most faciliting that shit.

I don't give a fukk how many White broads Q done had. He was still a Black man who had White chicks. The king of Pop being a Black man hwo maimed himself to look white is a fukkin problem. Its a fukkin tragedy. It's some bullshit...and honestly shouldn't have gone down like that.

  

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135. "you think you dr.phil in this?"
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for some one with no doggie in the race Warren, you sure you ain't raid Lorne Greene's Alpo and not got a buzz?

Mj had done it all and had nothing left to prove.

there were plenty of folks very much still cool with mj, but this ain't that conversation dr phil

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134. "michael got tired of carrying that overblown turkey"
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Michael Jackson could make anybody look good i can hardly say the same for Quincy Jones.

MJ was tired of Quincy getting all the credit when he didn't do nothing

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130. "RE: I'm saying that fronting on Q's role in Mike's success is idiotic"
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>>You're suggesting that Michael fired Q because Q was
>checking
>>him on his lifestyle.
>>
>
>
>>I've never seen ANY quote to support this as being what
>>happened. I mean, I can understand why someone might ASSUME
>>that's what happened, but for now I would rather deal with
>>what we know as FACT and not assumption.
>
>I'm saying it doesn't matter why Mike and Q stopped working
>together because what they accomplished together speaks for
>itself and Mike DID NOT make anywhere close to that impact
>after Q wasn't working with him.
>
>I'm also saying that it's well documented that Q had problems
>with how Mike was living...it's also well documented that he
>was not alone in that conern..it's also well documented that Q
>had no problem sharing his concerns and wasn't worried about
>sugar coating it. ..it's also well documented that EVERY
>SINGLE PERSON who shared that concern about Mike, ended up
>getting pushed OUT of Mike's life...but Mike himself.
>
>Drug addicts and people with the serious problems that Michael
>had do that. They push away those people who are expressing
>real concern for them and replace them with yes men who are
>only there to get a check.
>
>
>why they weren't working together is irrelevant...all that
>matters is Michael Jackson is dead...because of a variety of
>events that would have been less likely to happen if he had
>kept people like Quincy Jones in his PERSONAL circle....fukk
>the professinoal...you always want people around you who are
>gonna give you real talk..Q did that...Mike pushed him away as
>he did with so many others, and it was a mistake to do so.


This is real talk here....

I think if MJ had more people around him to tell him the truth shit might have ended differently...

All I know is miss MJ...

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136. "RE: I'm saying that fronting on Q's role in Mike's success is idiotic"
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turkeys don't want to admit Quincy Jones is overrated and got the ultimate rabbitt's foot and forleave clover.

Quincy Jones is so lucky that if he had scratch tickets i'd play them numbers.
even if they were torn up.

Quincy was more lucky than good.

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132. "Michael's relationship w/Q was probably better than his with his father"
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It seemed their relationship didn't really take a hit until the second allegations against MJ. That's when Q made the "I only know the music" comment



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137. "Q took a shot at him after he died"
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and Q and him didn't get along that well after they stopped working. MJ dealt with Joe and he didn't want another one.

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128. "RE: And now you're just making shit up"
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>You're suggesting that Michael fired Q because Q was checking
>him on his lifestyle.
>
>I've never seen ANY quote to support this as being what
>happened. I mean, I can understand why someone might ASSUME
>that's what happened, but for now I would rather deal with
>what we know as FACT and not assumption.

Good point...

But on the real, we are all human, Kap...Most of us r not the best when it comes to taking hardcore criticism, especially if we are use to people saying "yes" to us all day...It's not a far fetched assumption to believe that MJ didn't take to kindly to Q's straight old man talk...

There are three things that could have happened....

1. MJ didn't like the fact that many folks unfairly tried to say Q was the primary reason for much of the success of Off The Wall and Thriller...(I can't tell u how many folks I've argued up and down on this; folks who think MJ was some puppet...Shit is crazy...)...So he decided to end their partnership and find a new collaborator (Teddy)...

2. Q was on some sobering, real talk shit and got on Mike's bad side when he started showing concern for MJ's personal issues...U come out and tell someone they have a drug problem, that's not something u want to hear...

3. The two just grew apart...

Who knows what really happened?....But it's totally not out of the realm of logic that MJ didn't take to kindly to Q's constant advice and criticism...(If you know anything about OLDER folks, they are usually the most straight no chaser people around...They don't care who they offend....I find no reason to think Q is making shit up...He has nothing gain from that given that he has done almost everything a producer could do in this business...)

Personally I think it's all 3...Hell, it's probably deeper than anything we will ever know...

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129. "I love a good armchair psychoanalysis session as much as anyone"
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but I ain't here for that.

Let's talk about the facts we know for sure, and leave the speculation for a different kind of post. I can gossip with the best of them. Maybe I'll share the rumors I heard about MJ severing ties with Quincy because Q wanted a different kind of relationship between them that Mike wasn't interested in.

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131. "RE: I love a good armchair psychoanalysis session as much as anyone"
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>but I ain't here for that.
>
>Let's talk about the facts we know for sure, and leave the
>speculation for a different kind of post. I can gossip with
>the best of them. Maybe I'll share the rumors I heard about MJ
>severing ties with Quincy because Q wanted a different kind of
>relationship between them that Mike wasn't interested in.


I don't know what exactly strained their relationship....But I can say that there's been a lot of folks over the years that got kicked out of MJ's inner circle because they didn't go with the program...People that I've even interviewed over the years...

Considering how Mike ended up (vultures and leeches who were all too happy to feed dude's addictions), that's not much gossip at all...

Hell, I wish more people would have spoke up...Maybe Mike would be here today...

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138. "Kap stays making sense"
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folks on the real know what Q really wanted from MJ.

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117. "typical Warren bringing in the tabloid mentality."
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bottom line Quincy Jones ain't done as much as he is credited for Rod Temperton was better and without Michael Jackson Quincy Jones would be lucky to be as big as Marcus Miller to the genral public at large as a Producer.

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124. "none of Mike's solo albums w/o Quincy were as good as the"
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albums Q did with the Brothers Johnson...

u comparing the Brothers Johnson to the stone city band just shows how you got to fake the funk to support this foolish argument..

the Brothers Johnson had MULTIPLE hit records....

Mike w/o Quincy saw Mike's career fading....

  

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139. "you double trippin"
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dangerous>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bad album

Stranger in moscow song a classic Mj written song in any era.

Quincy Jones had broke down 2nd and 3rd tier karoke versions of better stuff he had in the past and why is that? because of Rod Temperton that's why.

i liked the brothers johnson however don't act like they were in some in demand songwriters and producers. they had a cool sound and were more of the toto thing in being studio musician pros rather than top flight artists on themselves.

oh yeah the stone city band would wipe the floor on them on a whole. now louis johnson was beasting, however after that they could be had

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36. "See..."
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pointing at this post!

Peace

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35. "long time ago"
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I argued that he was the most important person in 20th century music.

Just consider this, he's been a part of the most influential artistic movements from Soul (Ray Charles) to Jazz (the transition to Bop and Latin - Bossa Nova) to score righting and jingles (Sanford & Son) to eventually Mike Jackson (the King of Pop). Add his own very influential albums and you have a catalog beyond compare.

I use "the Dude" when I'm breaking in or test audio equipment because of the production qualities.

Dude (pun intended) is amazing.

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37. "Here's what gets me about Q"
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HE GOT SHIT DONE.
If he said something was gonna happen - it happened.
That ability to get stuff done, to just make others get in gear/in line and get the work done, you'd be surprised at how hard it is to get that to happen.
Listen to Will Smith talk about how they were able to get THE FRESH PRINCE OF BEL-AIR deal together over basically a long weekend.
I wish there were more cats with that skill at getting things done.


"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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39. ""we are the world.""
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how do you get all those stars in one place.
how do you quell those egos?


"his solo is longer than mine."
"i don't even get a solo...what's that about?"
"i should be standing up front for the cover photo."


of course, the fact that the biggest star on the planet was spearheading the project
made it possible. and the timing was convenient b/c everybody was free that night.


but it says a lot that we've never had another project that came close
to that magnitude... and it's not for lack of other people trying.


in terms of getting shit done,
that's a great example. he just knows how to grease the wheels.

  

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40. "RE: "we are the world.""
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>how do you get all those stars in one place.
>how do you quell those egos?
>
>
>"his solo is longer than mine."
>"i don't even get a solo...what's that about?"
>"i should be standing up front for the cover photo."
>
>
>of course, the fact that the biggest star on the planet was
>spearheading the project
>made it possible. and the timing was convenient b/c everybody
>was free that night.
>
>
>but it says a lot that we've never had another project that
>came close
>to that magnitude... and it's not for lack of other people
>trying.
>
>
>in terms of getting shit done,
>that's a great example. he just knows how to grease the
>wheels.



And this^^^^^is the magic of Quincy Jones....

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45. "Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie wrote it together"
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Mj had folks doing harmony and in awe of him.

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52. "RE: Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie wrote it together"
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>Mj had folks doing harmony and in awe of him.


See, this is the post I've been waiting for.....
It's about time for your meds mayne......

http://www.myspace.com/jshua1618

  

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56. "you don't nothing turkey"
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mj did heal the world which was the same exact song as we are the world by the way have you ever heard the we are the world demo with just michael jackson? if you did you would shut up and glide on out

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38. "quincy jones is the greatest music producer ever..and its not even close"
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Ironside theme? cmon..and thats just a pinch

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46. "the most overrated Producer"
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i'll give you that

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68. "overrated compared to whom?? RKelly?"
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Nigga Get the entire fuck outta here...you aint old enuff "get" Q...

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75. "i'm older than you and know my stuff"
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bow down turkey and shine some shoes because Quincy Jones is overrated turkey and I's say it to your face and bring a Hanky after i hurt your lil feelings

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69. "NIGGA Quincy Jones HIRED rod Temperton...lmao!!``"
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Q was already a DON when he recognized Tempertons talents....are you fucking kidding me??

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77. "hired him and sponged off his talents Rod Temperton>>Quincy Jones"
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without Rod Temperton Quincy Jones would have been in the hurts. yeah Q got the brand name, however Rod Temperton had the songs and produced those songs and arranged them turkey.

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86. "do you know how Q got that BRAND name?"
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bcz people like count basie and sinatra fkd with him...q was sponging off them too i guess..


nigga please...

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88. "He was the right Negro at the right time in White America"
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he was a cool sponge, did Jazz and learned some things traveled to france and had culture, came back to the states got on at Mercury records and produced Leslie Gore's "its my party" and that was a big thing for a Black Man to be doing that cross over and then walking in space was a cross over Jazz album. he got over at the right time and was marketable.

don't act like them White cats in Hollywood don't want a Good Smiling Negro with the right balance of imagery and teeths.

Quincy played ball.

he still Overrated and a Lucky turkey no matter how you slice it.

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47. "<looks at all the maxxx posts>"
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<laughs>

  

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48. "and nobody cares about your wack threads"
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oops what a minute you never start nothing because you aren't smart enough to, however you ride with the clique.


turkey you read and stan behind me because you don't know nothing about no R&B or what's up and i don't blame you, if i didn't know me i sure would follow me though because i would learn something.

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53. "<laughs some more>"
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49. "Check out Louis Johnson's (Bros. Johnson) view on Q"
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Including quotes about the "Look Out For #1" sessions which Louis describes as "musical heaven", and how Louis' bass line for MJ's "Get On The Floor" made it's way to OTW.

https://soundcloud.com/soulfiles/louis-johnson-talks-about

  

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55. "he sure is but not for what y'all think"
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cough
sex magick
cough


Eclectic Soul/Sunday, 2-4 PM est/89.3 WCSB.ORG

  

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58. "thank you rev"
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they giving that jive turkey way too much credit

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59. "man i know the REAL on Q"
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professionally and personally

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61. "Oh...I see..."
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The hypocrisy continues...U sitting up here biggin' up shit on Q's personal life (if that shit is even true.....but yeah...satanic sex parties and rituals?...Um....yeah...)

And u the main cat always talking about how we shouldn't bring an artists' personal life or demons into the conversation....

U go off when people talk about the personal lives of Rick, Kells and even MJ....

And now u cosigning this because it works for your demented agenda?

Keep digging yourself in that hole, dog...

I see u...lol

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62. "look murph i never said a thing about Quincy Jones personally"
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because I ain't a low level cheap turkey like you and i have read stuff you wrote on Kellz and things.

i know stuff about Q but i didn't go there, however Musically He is Overrated and a Bit of a fake and that is a fact turkey. just because he signed your checks and you slurp off walking into his space,etc.. don't mean everybody else does. I co signed Rev because that was the only time somebody wasn't acting all cliquish like you and your elk do about that turkey and others, I never said a word about Q's personal life or anybody else's turkey so miss me with that trying to make it more than it was

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64. "RE: look murph i never said a thing about Quincy Jones personally"
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It fits your agenda, though...And u wasn't exactly coming down on Rev (who I have no beef with BTW...Dude has always been cool....In fact, his post was hella funny....) for going the angle u seem to hate most--bringing up what folks do behind closed doors...

I just don't understand...What is it with u shitting on great artists you feel pose a threat to MJ and other folks?

The fact that it's Quincy Jones is telling...Hell, NO ONE ever said MJ owed his career to Q...Anyone saying that is full of shit...

But dude helped MJ get to the mountain top just as MJ helped Q become an iconic producer in the pop world, beyond his already legendary rep in jazz, R&B and film soundtracks....

To me their relationship worked both ways....

That's all I'm saying....

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60. "RE: he sure is but not for what y'all think"
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>cough
>sex magick
>cough



Yo Rev....don't feed the trolls, homie....lol

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63. "you just madd that Rev ain't riding with your tired thoughts"
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and you can't stand nobody to have there own mind about things. stick to the purple kool aid and Ziggy Scare dust threads turkey

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65. "RE: you just madd that Rev ain't riding with your tired thoughts"
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Nope...Rev is Kool in the Gang....

My issue is u not saying nothing about the homie unveiling Q's freaky, undercover past.....lol

U were quick to co-sign....

But the truth? No one has to think Q is the greatest producer of all time....In fact, i don't even think that's the case...

But u don't see Rev spewing out that shit u going on about....

To hear u tell it, Q was a lucky bum who shouldn't even be ranked among the best producers over the decades...

I'm just saying....

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79. "RE: you just madd that Rev ain't riding with your tired thoughts"
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truth hurts your feelings but he ain't no great producer he is cat who was lucky to be in the right place at the right time.

i told you Thom Bell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quiincy Jones

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81. "RE: you just madd that Rev ain't riding with your tired thoughts"
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>truth hurts your feelings but he ain't no great producer he
>is cat who was lucky to be in the right place at the right
>time.
>
>i told you Thom Bell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quiincy Jones


When u done smearing your own shit on the walls, we can talk seriously about Q...

Because the hate in u is disturbing...

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83. "RE: you just madd that Rev ain't riding with your tired thoughts"
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you ain't got a leg to stand on and don't know how badd thom bell is period and it shows.

Quincy Jones got you inhailing that california good snow. it shows.

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71. "I don't think Q has many peers."
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he is to production, what Mike is to music

BUT I will add, that the reputation is solely earned because of what he was able to do with Mike.

He had a legendary career well before that.

As a producer of other artists he might be in the "Kashif" tier in how well he is recognized for his production talents, despite the wealth of high-quality production for his own albums and others, if not for Mike. I think perhaps the highest profile non-Mike production he did was George Benson's Give Me The Night -- George was already on that path, but after that album he became a credible "R&B" artist and for many years was recognized as such before the jazz side.

Because of his work with Mike, many more people began to recognize what he did in the studio: his approach, his hallmarks, his quirks, his arrangements, his attention to detail, and the people he preferred to work with. He started to get praise outside of the usual avenues.

It was like, "ah, NOW we know why Mike sought him out".

(I feel the same way about Jam & Lewis. Their GOAT work is not with Janet, but it's because of the work they did with her that they finally were recognized for what they do)

If you hear the Jacksons albums Destiny and Triumph (one predating Q, one afterward) you can hear that the sound we largely associate with MJ was already present. What Q was able to do was harness that feeling, and do some high-level filtering all the while bring a wealth of outside influences to the table.... somehow NOT diluting the MJ formula.

I think when discussing Q versus other producers, the discussion gets much like the "producer vs. beatmaker" discussion when we talk about hip-hop... a lot of the producer-driven material from the late '70s forward has largely had the songwriters closely involved (as in playing on) the material, to the point it almost sounded "cookie cutter". That includes a number of my favorites (including the aforementioned Kashif)... Q was more "old school" in how he approached things (IMO, Luther Vandross during that small window when he was producer was similar).

  

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78. "Quincy Jones ain't seeing no Thom bell"
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and FYI Quincy got a foot in the door with producing the Brothers Johnson. as far as R&B goes. the stuff with George Benson was in line with his cross for a Jazz cat doing Pop.

and that album featured Rod Temperton and a then unknown Glenn Ballard who later went on to Write and produce with Alanis Morrisette for her "Jagged little pill" album which is the biggest selling debut album for a female artist.


give me the night album has a cover of Heatwave's "Star of the story" and even Benson is trying to sing like Johnny Wilder. not even close and I like george benson.

Quincy Jones had the cross over and the pop love, however he ain't seeing no top tier Producer. back then folks laughed about Quincy Jones working with Michael Jackson. everybody wanted to be working with Maurice White.

Quincy Jones is more of a Media mogul thing than him as a Actual producer etc..

Kashif is a good 2nd tier Producer, he wasn't seeing no Leon sylvers or babyface. "so fine" was his best Produced track IMO. he had a cool sound, however he didn't have memorable tracks per se. grooves and a new york vibe, but then again a cat like Nile Rodgers took it to a whole different level.

George Duke and Marcus Miller were better Producers as well.

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74. "Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones"
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and you can quote me on that

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105. "goat..those who dont think so should 'beat it' or quit beatin it"
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107. "those who know are laughing at you"
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Quincy knows he is overrated as well,but he ain't turning down praise though

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108. "quit beatin..he's the goat producer...everybody knows it"
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118. "in your lame world perhaps"
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however those in the know only give Q props as a Arranger and for scouting talent

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110. "OCD, how can i explain it?"
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112. "This niggrums is a clown"
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There is so many made up facts and half truths in this post its a shame.

I will give you two off the top of my head: James Ingram didn't write Bad Mama Jamma, Andre Cymone didn't write Uptown.

The op is a sick man and an irrational one. In his depraved piss stained dungeon, two great artist cant work together and bring the best out of one another. Quincy Jones in his world was some two bit tag along. This is the man that worked with Ray Charles, Frank Sinatra, Ella, COMPOSED tons of albums, and has forgotten more music than dick riding op will ever think knows about in his miserable life.

Im a fan of mike and i will acknowledge he NEVER topped his work with Q. Mike might not have ever had a Louis Johnson, Rod Temperton, James Ingram, Bruce Sweiden, Steve Porcaro and tons of other musicians engineers and arrangers that helped bring out the beast in Mike. Hell some of the best work Coltrane and Miles did was with each other and it doesn't take away from either legacy.

The OP is mad that Quincy is still alive, talkin shit and taking rightful credit. If Q never talked bad about MJ the OP would be swinging on his nuts.

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114. "RE: This niggrums is a clown"
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>
>
>There is so many made up facts and half truths in this post
>its a shame.
>
>I will give you two off the top of my head: James Ingram
>didn't write Bad Mama Jamma, Andre Cymone didn't write Uptown.
>
>
>The op is a sick man and an irrational one. In his depraved
>piss stained dungeon, two great artist cant work together and
>bring the best out of one another. Quincy Jones in his world
>was some two bit tag along. This is the man that worked with
>Ray Charles, Frank Sinatra, Ella, COMPOSED tons of albums,
>and has forgotten more music than dick riding op will ever
>think knows about in his miserable life.
>
>Im a fan of mike and i will acknowledge he NEVER topped his
>work with Q. Mike might not have ever had a Louis Johnson, Rod
>Temperton, James Ingram, Bruce Sweiden, Steve Porcaro and tons
>of other musicians engineers and arrangers that helped bring
>out the beast in Mike. Hell some of the best work Coltrane and
>Miles did was with each other and it doesn't take away from
>either legacy.
>
>The OP is mad that Quincy is still alive, talkin shit and
>taking rightful credit. If Q never talked bad about MJ the OP
>would be swinging on his nuts.



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122. "typical Murph runs behind any ole Ox"
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and proclaims greatness. you two jive turkeys deserve one another.

diddly do and diddly turkey

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125. "RE: typical Murph runs behind any ole Ox"
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Nah...I'm just bigging up some truth...If Trane and Miles could bring the best out of each other then u can guess the rest....

But do u....U have been on a crusade to lower the dialogue around here anyway...

Do u...

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140. "RE: typical Murph runs behind any ole Ox"
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nobody goes lower than you and that is a fact. i spoke the truth about Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones

Quincy is about as deep as the box of lucky charms, that oughta be his hero because talk about a lucky overrated jive turkey?

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121. "turkey you is wrong"
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Andre Cymone co wrote Uptown and Uptown was the rolling stones "Miss you" sideway and dre came up with the bass part. you don't know.

Shes a bad mama jamma James Ingram played all the instruments on the cut and it was the same groove guide and sound that became the fast version of PYT which Quincy wanted MJ to have on his album so he could steal a co writing credit from james ingram and that is the only way Ingram could get PYT on thriller.

the original PYT was slowed down and it was written by MJ and Greg Philiganis.

eat snuff and roll over Huggy Broke Bear jive rabbit head turkey

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115. "Recommend his bio Q if you haven't read it"
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0767905105/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0767905105&linkCode=as2&tag=inputjak-20

I checked it out after someone here mentioned he's like Forrest Gump with how many historic people/moments he was with/at. Enjoyed it a lot although it's been a few years and my retention is horrible and the details are fuzzy now, ha ha.

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141. "let's try this another way. "
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OTW had contributions from several artists.

MJ
quincy jones
rod temperton
jerry hey
louis johnson
gregg philanges
lots of people.



not a single person that worked on that album
ever created another album that was better than OTW.


the the rod temperton songs on OTW are better than the stuff w/ heatwave.
the louis johnson bass playing is better than the stuff w/ brother's johnson.
the jerry hey horn parts are better than the stuff w/ EWF and phill collins
the gregg phillanges keyboard playing is better than his session work with other artists.
the MJ vocal parts are better than the vocals on "triumph" and every MJ album afterwards.


what is the common denominator?

Q.




some people think "thriller" is better than OTW.
had a lot of the same players... with others thrown into the mix.
add toto. add james ingrahm.

none of those additional players did anything better than "thriller."
what's the common ingredient?



Q.


MJ & Q worked together well.
they collaborated. they disagreed. they brought about the best in each other.
all of the albums were collaborative efforts,
but it's obvious Q had a vital role in the proceedings.

on the "bad" album, MJ and Q were in seperate studios,
and it shows because "bad" is decidedly weaker than OTW and thriller.
you think "speed demon" would have come out that way if quincy was in the room?

(diction? sound effects? arrangement? quincy would've mentioned something.)


anyway...
yeah.

Q was the guy that told mike no.
Q was the guy that tweaked the arrangements to make them fit.
Q was the guy that made the songs leap out the speakers.
Q was the guy that found the right tunes to sing.

and he's the guy that assembled the right players to begin with.
none of those players did anything better than OTW.

Q was integral.
OTW wouldn't have sounded the same without him.
like the liner notes said, he was the producer.

in short, MJ + Q = the best material of both of their careers.
which is crazy, b/c both of them were veterans,
and the world thought both of them were washed up at the time.

i'm glad they worked together on OTW.
of all the albums i've ever heard... and i've heard a lot...
OTW is arguabley the best one and clearly my favorite by a mile.

the defense rests.



  

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145. "RE: let's try this another way. "
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>OTW had contributions from several artists.
>
>MJ
>quincy jones
>rod temperton
>jerry hey
>louis johnson
>gregg philanges
>lots of people.
>
>
>
>not a single person that worked on that album
>ever created another album that was better than OTW.
>
>
>the the rod temperton songs on OTW are better than the stuff
>w/ heatwave.
>the louis johnson bass playing is better than the stuff w/
>brother's johnson.
>the jerry hey horn parts are better than the stuff w/ EWF and
>phill collins
>the gregg phillanges keyboard playing is better than his
>session work with other artists.
>the MJ vocal parts are better than the vocals on "triumph" and
>every MJ album afterwards.
>
>
>what is the common denominator?
>
>Q.
>
>
>
>
>some people think "thriller" is better than OTW.
>had a lot of the same players... with others thrown into the
>mix.
>add toto. add james ingrahm.
>
>none of those additional players did anything better than
>"thriller."
>what's the common ingredient?
>
>
>
>Q.
>
>
>MJ & Q worked together well.
>they collaborated. they disagreed. they brought about the best
>in each other.
>all of the albums were collaborative efforts,
>but it's obvious Q had a vital role in the proceedings.
>
>on the "bad" album, MJ and Q were in seperate studios,
>and it shows because "bad" is decidedly weaker than OTW and
>thriller.
>you think "speed demon" would have come out that way if quincy
>was in the room?
>
>(diction? sound effects? arrangement? quincy would've
>mentioned something.)
>
>
>anyway...
>yeah.
>
>Q was the guy that told mike no.
>Q was the guy that tweaked the arrangements to make them fit.
>
>Q was the guy that made the songs leap out the speakers.
>Q was the guy that found the right tunes to sing.
>
>and he's the guy that assembled the right players to begin
>with.
>none of those players did anything better than OTW.
>
>Q was integral.
>OTW wouldn't have sounded the same without him.
>like the liner notes said, he was the producer.
>
>in short, MJ + Q = the best material of both of their careers.
>
>which is crazy, b/c both of them were veterans,
>and the world thought both of them were washed up at the time.
>
>
>i'm glad they worked together on OTW.
>of all the albums i've ever heard... and i've heard a lot...
>OTW is arguabley the best one and clearly my favorite by a
>mile.
>
>the defense rests.


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149. "garbage post and Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones"
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and Quincy Jones himself always says what? its the songs Man.

you take Rod temperton songs off of off the wall and you got pretty good album, however not a classic.

then on to thriller alot of folks back then thought that "baby be mine" was the best song on the album and that all rod temperton.

tired of no nothing wanna be MJ fans trying to present a weak case.

turkey think outsid the box clean your ears and listen rod temperton songs and notice all the stuff he did with Q the groove, vamps and hooks anf bridge never changed.

open your ears

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151. "RE: garbage post and Rod Temperton>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quincy Jones"
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>and Quincy Jones himself always says what? its the songs
>Man.
>
>you take Rod temperton songs off of off the wall and you got
>pretty good album, however not a classic.

Lol
>
>then on to thriller alot of folks back then thought that
>"baby be mine" was the best song on the album and that all
>rod temperton.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol

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155. "my nigga you are just flat out fucking lying now..i'm done"
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>>then on to thriller alot of folks back then thought that
>>"baby be mine" was the best song on the album and that all
>>rod temperton.



that shit was a last tier song on thriller ..nigga you a fucking joke now...


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beat it
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157. "turkey shes' out of my life was on off the wall"
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get your albums and conversation and facts straight turkey.

and Baby be mine was a cut.

thriller written by Rod Temperton as was the lady in my life and Baby be mine.

alot of DJ's across the country back in 82 upon first hearing the thriller album loved Baby Be mine. look it up turkey

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163. "lmao..nigga nobody was playing baby be mine when thriller first came out"
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are you fucking kidding me??? billie jean and beat it got ALL the airplay..ALL of it...then starting something and thriller got cracking bcz of the video...

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164. "i said the dj's felt baby be mine was the cut"
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not what ended up getting spins turkey. i was there back then.

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158. "he's always been a fucking joke."
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161. "so is your singing career Shock"
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you are about 98 degrees level and even they would take Aaron Carter over your constipated singing self turkey

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165. "fuck are you talking about, wesley willis?"
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167. "how youe corny behind stays stanning me"
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always running behind me like i can save your career?

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169. "lol. what fucking career?"
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what in the fuck are you talking about, you crazy bastard?

  

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171. "Birdman, Birdman, Birdman"
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BirdMan!BirdMan!Birdman!

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143. "what in the name of all things holy happened in this post?!"
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how on earth...?

never mind


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cmon man

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150. "RE: what in the name of all things holy happened in this post?!"
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lol....

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154. "lol"
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Since 1976

  

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mistermaxxx08
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159. "Quincy Jones is Overrated,Overrated,Overrated!!"
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Overrated!Overrated!!Overrated! overrated! Overrated!!

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rdhull
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160. "seriously....shut and grow up"
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>Overrated!Overrated!!Overrated! overrated! Overrated!!

  

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mistermaxxx08
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162. "Birdman, Birdman, Birdman"
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Birdman!Birdman!Birdman!!

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shockzilla
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166. "take your meds, smile & shut the fuck up."
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mistermaxxx08
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168. "Birdman, Birdman, Birdman"
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birdman!birdman!birdman!

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shockzilla
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170. "lol."
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i can't front.

that's funny.

  

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