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"What you doin' on our turf, punk?.... Ironman Appreciation "


  

          

I feel like I haven't seen one of these in a while, and I'm sure someone has done the honors of starting a post like this at some point in the past year or two, but I feel like I just had to get another one going.

I wanna get a post on all things 'Ironman'. I bought this album back in '01 when I was first getting into Wu, and ever since then it has become probably my go to solo joint for all things Wu-Tang.

1. Ironman
2. OBFCL I
3. Liquid Swords
4. Brooklyn Zoo
5. Supreme Clientele

But really, there is just something about 'Ironman' that has always been a mystery to me. It legit sounds like RZA just threw a bunch of samples together and it just fucking works. Between the Kung-Fu samples ("Lets see you try the water technique!"), the 'Usual Suspects' samples("There's no coke!"), the Blaxploitation samples ("It's my old man!"), everything just comes together perfect. But going back to that mystery aspect. What is it about this album?

Kinda crazy but I just found out today that the 'Box in Hand' track listed on the album was actually for a different song with Streetlife and Method Man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSLfVdUlqn4) anyone know the reason why they scrapped that OG version? Anyone pick up this 'Premium Version'? (http://www.okayplayer.com/news/ghostface-killah-ironman-premium-gold-edition-reissue-box-set.html) About a year ago I picked up the Vinyl edition of this with the OG tracklisting (Soul Controller instead of Marvel) and I still debate which track I like better. I love RZA's verse on 'Marvel' but man those samples at the end of Soul Controller (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJG5FJRFnYM)

So lets just get something going here. Post any links you have with other tracks from this era. Anyone got any good stories about 'Ironman'?

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And walk with a famous name like Supreme Magnetic Carbon copy
Apr 16th 2013
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RE: What you doin' on our turf, punk?.... Ironman Appreciation
Apr 16th 2013
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Gold!
Apr 16th 2013
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RE: Gold!
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Exactly why sampling in hip-hop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ....
Apr 17th 2013
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Rockin a Shaft Afrooo
Apr 16th 2013
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"mountains of blow" n/m
Apr 16th 2013
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My third favorite Wu album behind OB4CL and Liquid Swords
Apr 16th 2013
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***licks shots at Jesus and slap-boxes with Joseph**
Apr 16th 2013
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Just put my Cuzzo on to this 3wks ago
Apr 17th 2013
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Oh shit! That's my man!... You better go talk to him!
Apr 17th 2013
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damn, that was Glenn Turman??? LMAO.
Apr 17th 2013
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      Starring Glenn Turman as...The Ace
Apr 17th 2013
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Dayton 500 Video
Apr 17th 2013
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if it's the Speed Racer one... yep
Apr 17th 2013
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lol yep
Apr 19th 2013
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Yea, that shit was flavor
Apr 18th 2013
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so does anyone know the story about the OG 'Box in Hand'
Apr 17th 2013
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Perfect timing I was going to make this post
Apr 17th 2013
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Assasination Day (Easily top 5 RZA Beat ever)
Apr 18th 2013
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Dammit, I wanna say that 'Help Please' is from Ninja Scroll
Apr 18th 2013
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nope, it was Crying Freeman. I knew it was some shit I saw in the '90s
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yeah, those are prolly Top5 verses for each of them career-wise on that
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Box In Hand intro beat...
Apr 18th 2013
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NEVER
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My favorite wu album period
Apr 18th 2013
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Box In Hand Unreleased version
Apr 19th 2013
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Top 25 Hip-Hop Album for me
Apr 19th 2013
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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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1. "And walk with a famous name like Supreme Magnetic Carbon copy"
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dude, was my favorite member of Wu by the time the album came out. His performance on Liquid Swords solidified him as the top clansmen.

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2. "RE: What you doin' on our turf, punk?.... Ironman Appreciation "
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inIECM1S8s4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMO2K1j5VCc

...aye boy, the nigga whole style is chump. you unnastan?

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7. "Gold!"
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"I gotta take him offa here, i gotta take him offa here...Cause there's only one, and that's me..Fo' all that fightin'...Sucka think he good, sucka think he can whip me... and I knew he can't whip I knew....ay boy...the n*gga whole style is chump. When it comes to me, just lemme get mines first..after i get mines yall can do what you wanna do.."

I feel like this was Ghost's manifesto for the rap game at the time, puttin' other emcees (including the Clan) on notice...

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10. "RE: Gold!"
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...thats some old NY ish...one...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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13. "Exactly why sampling in hip-hop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...."
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This is a perfect snapshot of the world these dudes came from.
Even if they didn't live it, this film is part of their lives, their worldview. I dig it.

  

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3. "Rockin a Shaft Afrooo"
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Ghost just destroys 'Poisonous Darts'. I always thought he said 'Rocking the Chef Afro'.

Yo yo, methods of blow like snow constant cashflow
Rockin a Shaft afro, Tony got mad glow
with hoes, mega powder drippin from they nose
Fuckin Jet magazine bitches with, wild pussy pose
Send em for the whole night, daily venom horror snake bites
Only Built 4 Cuban Link kings who shoot dice
Holdin money that's convertable, beds with feathered bags
With the mongoose your man's got two seeds down in Bagdad
You onionhead niggaz spread out and parlay
Yo Rae these itch days get crashed with ash trays
I pull stings like, guitar strings down in Spain
I'm so hyped Jakes label God "crack cocaine"
Why Equality Self God, yeah yeah you know it kid
Ricki fucked up, and G-Pac, blow his wig
he's rockin Wu Wear, the latest in fleece uniform
He's a newborn, look at money swearin like he's on
But anyway back to furry kangols Jamaican wallabees
My back is on the wall, bombin devils with trick-knowledgy
My heart is cold like Russia, got jerked at The Source awards
Next year two hundred niggaz comin with swords!

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4. ""mountains of blow" n/m"
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5. "My third favorite Wu album behind OB4CL and Liquid Swords"
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Shit is the REAL OB4CL2 IMO

Over time Ghost became the most notable member in the Wu, save Rza!

Always thought that woulda been Meth.

They all great in they own right and stand on they own, but Ghost became the representation of the NY mc and had all kinds of jokers biting his whole steez.

All started with that Ironman gem and the robe with the golden eagle.

WTF!?!?!?

Son was dgaf personified.

Sure wish that DOOM / Starks would manifest itself somehow.

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6. "***licks shots at Jesus and slap-boxes with Joseph**"
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8. "Just put my Cuzzo on to this 3wks ago"
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Dude been listening to Pastor Troy
And PimpTrickGangstaClik albums his whole life
Needless to say the joint blew his whole wig back!

Cappadonna On confrontation:
I went to war one time, and I literally felt the blood
in my veins turn to metal, to the point
where my enemies looked at me and bowed down.
One of them started crying. The other one gave me $2,500.

  

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9. "Oh shit! That's my man!... You better go talk to him!"
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Wed Apr-17-13 12:26 AM by bski

  

          

http://youtu.be/W7BdM35OfSk



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11. "damn, that was Glenn Turman??? LMAO."
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thanks for that. i gotta watch this movie.

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17. "Starring Glenn Turman as...The Ace"
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12. "Dayton 500 Video "
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http://vimeo.com/6465388

You would never see anyone doing this today. Was this actually an official video?

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14. "if it's the Speed Racer one... yep"
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that was the official video. Cats doing the same thing on Youtube today, Ghost did it in 1996.

  

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27. "lol yep"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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20. "Yea, that shit was flavor"
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Dope ass video, I remember seeing this on mtv on mute and being all types of confused

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15. "so does anyone know the story about the OG 'Box in Hand'"
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was it a sample clearance issue? not complaining as I think the album version is one of my favorite tracks on the LP. I've always wondered if that's ODB at the beginning, you can kind of hear someone faintly in the background going back and forth with Ghost; always sounded like 'Dirty to me.

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16. "Perfect timing I was going to make this post"
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I was helping a friend translate the album for a new Japan release this weekend. Reading the lyrics reminded me of how much I love that album. One of my favorite songs "Assassination Day" doesn't even have Ghost on it. The only song I skip now is All That I Got Is You. It's just too slow. However I bump the hell out of The Soul Controller so I don't know what that says.

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18. "Assasination Day (Easily top 5 RZA Beat ever) "
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ssTTuIxfxA

The Usual Suspects samples at the beginning is great, then followed by, I assume, a Kung Fu flick sample *Help Please*.

I could listen to Deck and RZA's verses all day on this.

"White lies and blackmail land me back in jail"

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19. "Dammit, I wanna say that 'Help Please' is from Ninja Scroll"
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I might be wrong on that...

  

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28. "nope, it was Crying Freeman. I knew it was some shit I saw in the '90s"
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23. "yeah, those are prolly Top5 verses for each of them career-wise on that"
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Rae's re-using bars in spots of his verse but he really hits his mark with the beat during that 'flowing like a black bird' bit.

  

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21. "Box In Hand intro beat..."
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It's in my top 5 beats ever. It never gets old.

  

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22. "NEVER"
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ever

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24. "My favorite wu album period"
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The thing that always struck me about it is that up to that point, it was the first record of theirs on which the MC did not appear infallible/invincible (paraphrasing Wikipedia)

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25. "Box In Hand Unreleased version"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSLfVdUlqn4

i prefer the one that ended up on the album, this is dope though, but seems like it would've fit better on Tical or Liquid Swords

  

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26. "Top 25 Hip-Hop Album for me"
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I love the vibe of that album. Winter Warz and Motherless Child bring me right back to 96.

Assassination Day, Box In Hand, Fish, and Camay are standouts to me as well.

And of course All I Got Is You is a classic track.

A great album that can be played straight through.

Still behind Liquid Sword and OB4CL to me though.

  

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