i thought a posse cut was different mcs, not in a group, at least 4 of them, all rhyming on a song

wutang songs, imo, wouldn't be considered a posse cut cuz they're all a group

am i in the minority?

and the best example of a posse cut i come up with is the symphony, by marley marl and the juice crew

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general definition: a group of loosely affiliated MCs - not a group who regularly release albums together AS a group (think: WuTang Clan) but who occasionally appear in videos or drop a verse/line here and there

for example (of posses who weren't groups)

native tongues - Buddy or Scenario
juice crew - Symphony
flava unit MCs - Rollin with the Flava
Dungeon Family - Watch for the Hook

to make it even MORE complicated you had/have the category for stuff like LLs "4,3,2,1", the Luniz "I Got 5 on It" Remix - or similar "regional folks get together" type deals - where you have a bunch of featured artists. these are more "all star team" but still fit. Songs like "all in the same gang" and "self destruction" would also fit here

finally, in the 90s the concept was mutated by the proliferation of labelmates who always would show up making releases de-facto group cuts/albums

e.g.

no limit ("no limit soldiers" or "make em say ugh")
death row (stranded on death row)
cash money (Bling Bling)
bad boy (all about the benjamins)

ultimately I think this last group muddied it up so much that the concept of a "posse cut" has changed (watered down) to the point it doesn't mean much and isn't NEARLY as special when it occurs nowadays

Never quite sits right with me when people list tracks with three people as posse cuts.

The "group" thing falls sort of in a grey area. I agree on no Wu-Tang, but would that exclude Scanario? Or Buddy? Or Headbanger? Or Nitty Gritty? Or Diggin in the Crates? Or Even Rol With the Flava?

Som just for arguments sake, I'll list some with four MCs or more with no immediate crew affiliation:

Live at the BBQ
Back to the Grill
5 Deadly Venomz
Self Destruction
Color Blind
Don't Curse
Flava in Ya Ear remix
I Got 5 On It remix
Battle For Asgard
Down the Line
KGB
Rip Mics in Half


Okay, here some with crew affiliation, but more than four MCs (besides the ones that I mentioned in the intro)

Symphony
Flava Unit Assassination Squad
What Cha Gonna Do.?
Headbanger
Bring It On
Ain't No Fun
Sund of the Zeekers
Spontaneous
Fubkintoyourear
You Don't Work, U Can' Eat

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Those Wu tracks are posse tracks to me. Triumph is a posse track. Protect Ya Neck is a posse track. The song length should be close to five minutes or more. Those three-minute Slaughterhouse tracks are not posse tracks and they're wack anyway.

Objectively the best posse track ever is Reservoir Dogs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGeSSXQ1xVY

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has to be my all time favorite

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but can be in the same "collective" of artists, recording on one song

Best? Good question. "Symphony" is a great example. Big Daddy Kane kind of stepped out of his usual box on that one.

"Headbanger", "Scenario" are givens.