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"Poll question: What artist today can make the biggest major impact album?"
Tue Apr-02-13 09:00 PM by -DJ R-Tistic-

  

          

I wanted to say "who could come closest to making a Thriller type impact album" but y'all would waste 80% of the replies saying "NOBODY will EVER make another Thriller" so eff it.

But yea...which artist do you think could make a major, high selling, high impact, career elevating album at this point of their career? It could be in the same lane they've already made music in, or experimental/progressive...but just something that could end up as the biggest album of the decade.

Are there any other artists you'd submit, maybe an older one, or a newer up and coming one?

It's a combination of things that can lead to your answer..who's made the best material thus far...who do you think hasn't reached their peak yet...who has the talent to make something that changes the landscape...who is best at capturing different audiences...etc.

Poll result (10 votes)
Beyonce (2 votes)Vote
Chris Brown (0 votes)Vote
Miguel (0 votes)Vote
Drake (0 votes)Vote
Kanye (7 votes)Vote
Rihanna (1 votes)Vote

  

  

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D...
Apr 02nd 2013
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D as in D'Angelo? hell naw.
Apr 02nd 2013
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2 platinum albums so far...
Apr 02nd 2013
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Yea, I think I agree with this.
Apr 02nd 2013
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Kanye hasn't already done so? my write in is Justin Bieber.
Apr 02nd 2013
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He's had some big ones, but don't think he's made anything since
Apr 02nd 2013
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      RE: He's had some big ones, but don't think he's made anything since
Apr 02nd 2013
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      SMH. You don't know who I am on here obviously!
Apr 02nd 2013
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           Tavares? Jaco? Barry? Bobby Bland?
Apr 02nd 2013
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                It was a lot of interpolations, not many traditional style samples like
Apr 02nd 2013
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      You started with Thriller and ended with GRODT... LMAO
Apr 02nd 2013
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           1. GRODT = Biggest of last decade for Rap 2. I already said it's no
Apr 02nd 2013
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                wasn't there a post last month about how GRODT
Apr 02nd 2013
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Miguel is the only one listed who could
Apr 02nd 2013
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R.Kelly and he is the only Artist that truly has matter over the
Apr 02nd 2013
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mostly agree, but...
Apr 02nd 2013
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      D'angelo got talent and is vastly overrated
Apr 03rd 2013
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RE: Probably someone we haven't heard of.
Apr 02nd 2013
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With the right Exec, Erykah could do it
Apr 02nd 2013
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RE: What artist today can make the biggest major impact album?
Apr 03rd 2013
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I read this imagining what Maxxx would say LOL!
Apr 03rd 2013
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it RARELY is, at least post-2000
Apr 03rd 2013
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With Janelle, I feel like the fact that she's into so many styles
Apr 03rd 2013
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Janelle going to end doing the love boat instead
Apr 03rd 2013
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      RE: Janelle going to end doing the love boat instead
Apr 03rd 2013
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I know they're trying the self-contained thing, but
Apr 03rd 2013
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Any Of Those Listed Could But Would It Be Any Good...Nope!
Apr 03rd 2013
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Rihanna.
Apr 03rd 2013
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teal-kanye could do it-beyonce gets my second
Apr 03rd 2013
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There isn't a major artist capable of that today
Apr 03rd 2013
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RE: There isn't a major artist capable of that today
Apr 03rd 2013
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well a few thing about Billie Jean in Mike's defense
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I think Kanye is the closest on this list
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1. "D..."
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is about to shit on all of this.

Just my guess.

It's gotta be someone who can play an instrument. Otherwise, the fate of the record will be in the hands of the producer. There are no Q's left, so the shit will be watered down from the pop acts.

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2. "D as in D'Angelo? hell naw."
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he's not touching the pop charts to make that kind of impact.

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6. "2 platinum albums so far..."
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I have no reason to believe he won't do it again.

Then, again, 5 years later, we'll hear wack-ass R&B clones trying to incorporate his shit, as that will be the first time they can actually comprehend it.

So, platinum + influence = impact.

I'm guessing we'll see a lot of cats wielding guitars and keys again.

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10. "Yea, I think I agree with this."
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3. "Kanye hasn't already done so? my write in is Justin Bieber."
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8. "He's had some big ones, but don't think he's made anything since "
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being at the peak of his powers at that level. In my opinion.

I guess I mean something at the level of Chronic, Doggystyle, Get rich when it came out, etc.

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11. "RE: He's had some big ones, but don't think he's made anything since "
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>being at the peak of his powers at that level. In my opinion.
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>I guess I mean something at the level of Chronic, Doggystyle,
>Get rich when it came out, etc.

So, the next artist to sample the entire P-Funk catalog?

Sampling songs has to die. The run is over. That doesn't apply to individual drums, but the horse corpse is getting the shit kicked out of it.

Someone play, write, and record a song. Let's start there.

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12. "SMH. You don't know who I am on here obviously!"
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I'm for sure not the "pro-sample" guy on here. Get rich was huge and had zero Funk samples...not many samples period.

I'm just speaking on the magnitude of these albums.

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14. "Tavares? Jaco? Barry? Bobby Bland?"
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I know there's more.

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17. "It was a lot of interpolations, not many traditional style samples like"
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Just and Kanye were using at that time. The main standouts were at least interpolated if not original, I never checked liner notes.

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15. "You started with Thriller and ended with GRODT... LMAO"
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>being at the peak of his powers at that level. In my opinion.
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>I guess I mean something at the level of Chronic, Doggystyle,
>Get rich when it came out, etc.


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16. "1. GRODT = Biggest of last decade for Rap 2. I already said it's no"
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way for anything to be mentioned as Thriller, but don't act like GRODT wasn't HUUUUUUUUUUUGE when it dropped!!!!

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18. "wasn't there a post last month about how GRODT"
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and how it didn't stand up to the test of time. i know you're talking impact and of course thriller has the biggest impact but it was more than just that. Pretty much any artist could make the next GRODT, Trinidad James, Chief Keef, etc. But a Thriller is a wholly different monster.

That said I knida think I hope no artist sees that level of success ever again. I'd like to see the achievements of Kendrick be the bar which goes no higher, but I guess Drake is dropping something this year *sigh*.

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4. "Miguel is the only one listed who could"
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I'm not even a fan of Miguel mind you, but everyone else has blown their pop wad. Meaning the pop-sphere has heard too much about them (not really for music mind you) and they are so focused on media perception to actually make the level of music you're looking for.

That said I don't think I believe Miguel has the talent for it.

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5. "R.Kelly and he is the only Artist that truly has matter over the"
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past 20 plus years. think about how turkeys lost there ribs at "Love Letter"? and this cat can hang with any turkey out today and he wiped the floor on D'angelo, Maxwell, Anthony Hamilton, Ginuwine, Mary J Bliege, and His peers.

and I still know that He can find a way to even outdo what he has already done.

think I'm crazy for saying that?

well if somebody had have told you ten years back that Chocolate Factory would rival 12 play and his self title album that came out a decade before chocolate factory did and that CF would bring the heat and own the radio, you would have laughed them away from you.

and then fast forward to 2010 and Love letter was the real deal.

now all them turkeys you got listed can make better albums, etc.. problem is they ain't got nobody who knows about telling them about what the real real is.


Beyonce ain't made a memorable album yet and just one semi money track in "crazy in Love" and she is 10 deep as a solo act and shows me the elementary musical signs of being a Mariah Carey jr liteweight and settling.

Chris Brown this cut is nice, however vocally he gotta step it up more and also he has to add lyrical depth and pull another spin into his craft.


Usher is a settler and has nobody to steer him.

you see any of the acts today could get better, etc.. however they won't. a cat like Bruno Mars got a chance at good Pen game, however his solo career feels like a vegas Karoke show IMO, but he got something and I like his band,

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7. "mostly agree, but..."
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if we're talking about sheer volume in body of work, fine.

If we're talking about ground-breaking albums, I really don't know how Brown Sugar and Voodoo do anything other than shit on all of what you just mentioned. That includes the Voodoo tour.

But that might just be musical preference.

I'd rather two albums that are truly genre-bending than a giant body of clone work.

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19. "D'angelo got talent and is vastly overrated"
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mumbling for life

not a good songwriter

and he comes like a cat stuck in his hero's play pen, like the kid in a bubble like that old john travolta movie.

he is barely a blip to most in memory, a musical waste

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13. "With the right Exec, Erykah could do it"
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She needs a complete vision for *ONE* album though. And someone she trusts to help her realize it.

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20. "RE: What artist today can make the biggest major impact album?"
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Artist

Chris could.. timing is right but the album would have to be perfect though... and no raps... this new single ain't starting that way... and he has to stop the bullshit in the streets

Miguel could... rolling well off grammys.. he'd have to pull some exodus and roll to europe fuck with Paul Epsworth or Phillipe Zdar.. and bring J*Davey, Thundercat, leon ware, O'mas Keith and Flying lotus with him

You need two major components... an artist who is at the right time and MORE IMPORTANTLY a producer that can elevate said artist.

the list almost needs the producer attached.

Janelle could... if she'd get off the weird horse and make some hits...

Producers...

Paul Epsworth.. still got the Adele glow.. wonder what he could do with a more R&B artist tho..

Kanye NEEDS a new muse... he just doesn't care enough about himself.. but he could throw his genius into someone new

Pair Mark Ronson with will.i.am and maybe.. they have the knowledge of a shit ton of recorded music and hopefully mark would keep will from getting TOO cheesy.. who knows..

it's slim pickins either way


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21. "I read this imagining what Maxxx would say LOL!"
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Other than Janelle (lol at get off her weird horse and make some hits though) none of that sounded like it would produce good music. But I guess that's not a qualifier for impact.

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27. "it RARELY is, at least post-2000"
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>But I guess that's not a qualifier for impact.

a lot of it is really "dumb luck". but in the 2000s... that shit went from "dumb luck" to "deliberately calculated"

  

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22. "With Janelle, I feel like the fact that she's into so many styles"
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of music and tries to incorporate them all is more of a curse than a gift.

Her great songs are GREAT...but she doesn't make these enough. Her album really does feel like A Love Below Pt. 2 to me, but not as good/fun/catchy even if it was more refined in some ways.

I do think the lack of producers who can really make an impact album like THAT are a big difference as well. And even how on most classic albums, there was one main producer, maybe 2 main, vs 10-15 of them.

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24. " Janelle going to end doing the love boat instead"
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of the Sade/Anita Baker route which would make her a household name.

i'd put Janelle to work with only bruno mars now, they could make something

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30. "RE: Janelle going to end doing the love boat instead"
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lol..

love boat?

I would love to see her in with Bruno & Phil though.. they would make some awesome jams

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26. "I know they're trying the self-contained thing, but "
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>Janelle could... if she'd get off the weird horse and make
>some hits...

They really need to branch way out. I'm sure they're probably pissing Puff the fuck off with their weirdness. I'd like to hear her/them work with the Cocaine 80's crew.

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23. "Any Of Those Listed Could But Would It Be Any Good...Nope!"
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That's the problem with a lot of pop artists today, they can definitely make trending music and videos (and of course the record labels will make sure of that) but the problem I see is that those same artists have been making the cheesiest and boring music ever.

Pop artists have stop making good music, they now make clone music, they find an above-ground artist who is making good music and they clone it and take the heat/soul out of it, then call it their own.

The last artist to make an impact was Adele, and all she did was just do what has already been done by adult-contemporary vocalists but with heart & soul.

Tyler The Creator/OFWGKTA was about to trend then Tyler released an official album, Earl Sweatshirt disappeared, then Frank Ocean gets some attention, then they get their own show Loiter Squad (which sucks ass), then Earl is back, and by then their impact is basically went from a comet to dust (except for Earl's hopeful upcoming debut but I don't expect it to be a big deal like they were before).

Lady Gaga was big but she cloned & watered-down her own sound to where now her new music is bland/sucks.

Nicki Minaj made an impact off of expectancy of her making better music and failed but still trending cause of her look & weirdness.

Rihanna is still a mystery to me, her music isn't impacting or innovative at all, just urban pop tunes that gets play every where, so it sells but some how she's doing better than all the other females in her catagory sales-wise.

Rick Ross & Young Jeezy made impacts but we all knew those kats wasn't going to last, how in the hell Lil Wayne stays in the spotlight is beyond me cause it definitely ain't the music people are liking about him.

Beyonce to me hasn't made a real impact in mad years when her 2nd album came out, unless you include her being pregnant part of it cause other than that she just latches on to whatever is trending and then puts her twist on it.

Usher deciding to do nothing but upbeat, dance-tunes, not surprising since that's the style that's trending but he's kind of like the male version of Lady Gaga but without the fashion but a big discography and track record of making hit songs.

Also was Miguel ever impacting, T-Pain had more of an impact than Miguel ever had.


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25. "Rihanna."
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28. "teal-kanye could do it-beyonce gets my second"
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29. "There isn't a major artist capable of that today"
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none of them have what it takes, and not in the way you might think I mean that
none of them can get past their own egos and let the music do what it's supposed to do
MJ needed Q to show him that, and he admitted as much; if he had his way, Billie Jean would sound totally different and it wouldn't have been anywhere near as revered as it was

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31. "RE: There isn't a major artist capable of that today"
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i'll say this... Adele is the only thing close to thriller...

nothing can be thriller again.. No one can have an impact like that worldwide.. we are too segmented.

but you can have something sell 10 mill... be an artistic juggernaut like 21

That's all anyone can hope for. That's how I looked at the list

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32. "well a few thing about Billie Jean in Mike's defense"
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Quincy Jones didn't even like the song and they fought over it on thriller and then MJ wanted the guitar intro longer. truth is MJ produced billie jean by himself and other tracks.

where quincy jones was important to MJ was getting him money tracks like i can't help, human nature, the lady in the my life, she's out of my life.

he went and found songs that said something and Michael was not that kind of songwriter so it worked, however quincy jones needed MJ as much because what did Q do exactly post MJ again? crickets

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Dr_Gonzo
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33. "I think Kanye is the closest on this list"
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But I don't think that he's a good enough rapper to do it (again) himself.

I mean, when it came out, I wasn't really about TCD, but I couldn't deny its impact. Kanye is kind of a force, and he knows it.

I think if he put the care into someone else's album that he does his own, then it would happen.

Imagine Kanye West as an executive producer. I mean, as an executive producer who isn't thinking about his own next release. One who isn't saving beats and song concepts for his own album. He produces for a young talented cat, and shit would be amazing. Hell, even just someone who would trust his vision and is able to appeal to a decently wide audience, and shit would be over.

Artist that comes to mind (but isn't on this list-- rightfully so) is Lupe Fiasco. If he did F&L, then The Cool, and followed it up with an album execed by Kanye, it would have been amazing.


By similar measure, I think if she had the right musical guidelines, Janelle Monae would also be able to do this. I just have a feeling that she's not really the type to give a shit about that kind of stuff.

In a perfect world, anyone could. All it would really take is a very skilled artist that comes with a lot of quality, and the inclination to do something just a little different. Unfortunately marketing doesn't work that way. Which brings me back to exec produce by Kanye West when he isn't even considering making an album for himself.

  

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