There is only one real answer.

Poll result (43 votes) Herbie Hancock (6 votes) Vote Curtis Mayfield (28 votes) Vote Quincy Jones (5 votes) Vote Robert Kelly (2 votes) Vote Sharkula (2 votes) Vote

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RIP GOATs

His music ushered in the Swing Era.

Pioneered integrated bands in the 1930's.

His band was the first jazz band to play Carnegie Hall.

Elected to All-Time Jazz Hall of Fame by Down Beat Magazine in 1957.

Enlarged classical clarinet repertoire by commissioning pieces by Bartok, Bernstein, and Copland.

Honorary doctorates from Union College, University of Illinois, Bard College, Columbia University, Yale and Harvard.

Presented with a Kennedy Center Award in 1982.

Lifetime Achievement Award from Howard University.

First Annual Distinguished Service Award from Hull House, Chicago in 1985.

Lifetime Achievement Award from the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences in 1986.

Won a Lifetime Achievement Grammy Award in 1986.

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nobody cares about Benny Goodman. he was tough back in the day, but he ain't at the food table of the best jazz cats.

after ARRUh its Maurice White, Curtis Mayfield, Donny Hathaway, Chaka Khan.

real CHI TOwn Folks ride with R. Kells.

Kellz has had the longer run and being the king of R&B counts. nobody else from the chi rocks a crown.

Quincy Jones will tell you Arruh rules

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first they hate R.Kelly

and second they don't no nothing about the Cjhi and they aen't black, because i got Chi town roots and Arruh is a Icon in that town.

R.Kelly is on that Chi town mount rushmore with Oprah, Michael Jordan, Harold Washington and Walter Payton.

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Would ride dick the way you do.

Your slobbering of Lebron James, among others, has exposed you.

Youre a clown maxx. You're not a real chi head hahaha it's actually funny that you try to claim otherwise.

turkey i got fam in the Chi.

i got roots there and i know whats up. you stay stannin in my threads with your own sick twisted manner and ways, i know one thing turkey you wouldn't talk that mess to my face.

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fair enough he is in my top 5 all time Chi town acts, though his Son R.Kelly surpassed him. i love Cooke though

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Do y'all not understand who he is and what he's done?

i wasn't up on his body of work until (relatively) recently.

He has been wildly successful in nearly every form of American popular music.

>He has been wildly successful in nearly every form of
>American popular music.

when i was a kid, my first exposure to quincy jones was
seeing the logo for his production company on OTW and thriller.
later on, i noticed the same logo on my parents brothers johnson lp's

i never gave it much thought after that.

then, when ludacris did the song for Austin Powers
soundtrack, i saw quincy jones in the video.
i wondered why he was there, so i went to the Internet.

that's when i found out he was responsible for the Austin Powers theme song,
and i was amazed how something written so long ago
could sound so fresh and new.

that's when i started digging into his catalogue
and found "this is how i feel about jazz" (a vinyl record that i drove through an ice storm to get) and "soul bossa nostra."

the more i researched, the more i found.

television and film scores, jazz records,
the works.


i realized i'd heard a lot of his work,
but i just didn't know it was him.
i suspect i am not in the minority.

it's easy to miss how prolific he is.
i didn't realize it until ludacris samples one of his songs.

this is 'musical talent' which isn't necessarily the same as having loads of credits and accolades
not trying to discredit him, that's crazy to even try, but there's no way it's him as a clear-cut answer

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Q is one of the greatest of all time in:

- composition
- arranging
- bandleading
- production
- scoring

And was a pretty damned good instrumentalist to top it all off.

And lol at your attitude of "well he just has a lot of awards." Yeah. He has 27 Grammies. For good reason.

>And lol at your attitude of "well he just has a lot of
>awards." Yeah. He has 27 Grammies. For good reason.

I didn't say he had 'just a lot of awards'
I said accolades and musical talent don't always go hand in hand so it isn't the same
and never use Grammy counts to show a person's ability to make music
too much goes into the selection process that has nothing to do with music for it to warrant any merit

and as for this part:

> - composition

wouldn't crack the top ten even if we're talking jazz


> - arranging

excellent arranger


> - bandleading

wouldn't crack top ten bandleaders either


> - production

if we're talking most successful, definitely, but skill for skill there's a debate to be had there


> - scoring

his scores are so good it's stupid, love them all except that fucking 5o Cent movie

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>>And lol at your attitude of "well he just has a lot of
>>awards." Yeah. He has 27 Grammies. For good reason.
>
>I didn't say he had 'just a lot of awards'
>I said accolades and musical talent don't always go hand in
>hand so it isn't the same
>and never use Grammy counts to show a person's ability to make
>music

How about record sales? I'm sure that's just as invalid as Grammy awards to you, but really, you're just deciding what criteria suits your argument anyway.

>too much goes into the selection process that has nothing to
>do with music for it to warrant any merit

Yeah, it was all politics, those 79 nominations spanning five decades. I mean, I'm still pissed at Jethro Tull winning best metal, so I feel you.

>and as for this part:

And this is the silly part. The poll asked for "best musical talent." Did not specify "best songwriter." Did not specify "best bandleader." But here you are breaking it down...yeah, man. I grant you songwriting was probably the weakest part of his game. Of course, several of compositions are in the Real Book and have become standards, which is a hell of an achievement by itself, but no, he's not top ten.

But it isn't "best songwriter," which is why you evaluating him in individual categories is dumb. Name another guy from Chicago or Seattle or fuck it wherever you like whose musical talent was so complete and wide-ranging, who succeeded in every musical outlet available to him, and mastered most of them.

Total package? Q.

>>>And lol at your attitude of "well he just has a lot of
>>>awards." Yeah. He has 27 Grammies. For good reason.
>>
>>I didn't say he had 'just a lot of awards'
>>I said accolades and musical talent don't always go hand in
>>hand so it isn't the same
>>and never use Grammy counts to show a person's ability to
>make
>>music
>
>How about record sales? I'm sure that's just as invalid as
>Grammy awards to you, but really, you're just deciding what
>criteria suits your argument anyway.
>

since when does the number of Grammys/record sales determine musical talent?
give me an example of that and I'll back off, and I don't mean just naming niggas with a lot of Grammys either


>>too much goes into the selection process that has nothing to
>>do with music for it to warrant any merit
>
>Yeah, it was all politics, those 79 nominations spanning five
>decades. I mean, I'm still pissed at Jethro Tull winning best
>metal, so I feel you.
>

he could have 179 nominations this year, doesn't matter because we're not talking about who has the most trophies
make a thread for that if that's something you wish to talk about


>>and as for this part:
>
>And this is the silly part. The poll asked for "best musical
>talent." Did not specify "best songwriter." Did not specify
>"best bandleader." But here you are breaking it down...yeah,
>man. I grant you songwriting was probably the weakest part of
>his game. Of course, several of compositions are in the Real
>Book and have become standards, which is a hell of an
>achievement by itself, but no, he's not top ten.
>

I can name ten composers just in the jazz idiom better than Q, and do it rather easily


>But it isn't "best songwriter," which is why you evaluating
>him in individual categories is dumb. Name another guy from
>Chicago or Seattle or fuck it wherever you like whose musical
>talent was so complete and wide-ranging, who succeeded in
>every musical outlet available to him, and mastered most of
>them.
>

you're the one that listed all of those categories
hate to be the one to break that to you, but if you thought it was dumb you should've never brought the shit up


>Total package? Q.

my package? You.
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that honor goes to Maurice White.

Quincy is a producer and a good arrranger. nobody going to debate his solo albums, so no he ain't that deep.

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Sure he was born here, but his family moved to the pacific northwest when he was 10.

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he got history in the CHI however he ain't on that list.

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one of the most overrated imo.

he hustles, however a marginal act if there ever was one

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they dont even get a slot on the poll?!

cmon man


do or die

i'd take the Chi lites and Eugene Record over them personally also tyrone davis and the five stirsteps.

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do or die

lets not act like they are Tower of Power or something. Chicago had moments but even white folks don't get all goo goo over them cats.

are they seeing R.Kelly? NAW

Maurice White? No

Sam Cooke? No

Donny Hathaway ? no

Curtis Mayfield? no

Chaka Khan? no

Buddy Guy? no

i named 7 now put the crack pipe down Homie.

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it could go either way in that regard so it's not exactly a wash either way

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I won't argue with Curtis...but Sam Cooke is an absolute legend and I can't see him not being number 1.

He came before the time of the "albums".

But give me his greatest hits, and his live at Harlem square and live at the copa over anything the artists above have created.

And I love a lot of their work as well.

But Sam is a top 10 artist of all-time to me.