...sounds SERIOUS -

might be my fav. beat from him in a min. and Im feelin what Im hearin from this Joey cat!

This gearin up to be HEAT.!!!

Front page for those that slept.

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i can't see that as a serious single for an album.

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- if by single, we´re talkin´ aimed@radio...

But if he´s lookin to cater to the crowd that swears by golden era hip hop, this def. an ill way to tell us he comin!

The cat´s young - he can afford to explore territory that ain´t necessarily pay, hell he could even be doin this (SHOCKER) for the (GASP) love and passion!?

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maybe the beat will grow on me. on first listen, it was just okay. amazing that this kid only turns 18 this year.

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He's also doing it for a check from Mountain Dew.


>can afford to explore territory that
>ain´t necessarily pay, hell he could even be doin this
>(SHOCKER) for the (GASP) love and passion!?

lol

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for me to try my luck on a damn Premierbeat at the age of 17???

Shhh, letem pay.

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same style of chopping he's been stuck on since like '08 (yes i know there are exceptions), monotonous drums (a missed opportunity to make his beats more compelling), scratch hook (which i have no complaints about other than that even premo's scratch patterns have become unanimated). now i'm not saying this beat sucks; i actually sort of like it. but is it fireness or anything like that? nah...c/c+ like most premo output for the last few years.

premo champions 'real hip-hop' like few others, so even though he comes off like a bitter old conservative sometimes, i'd still like to hear super-dope music from the man. maybe this is an unrealistic expectation from a legend who seems past his prime, but ionno. i'm not saying his status has faded, but premo's approach to beats has been so monolithic/homogeneous lately. it's like, if you're holding the music/culture down so heavy, why doesn't your art signify that? because these auto-pilot premo joints give me zero feeling. i may nod my head/enjoy the sounds, but it's hollow.

premo, put some love/dedication back into your music, please!

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that all.

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At least wait until the full song to drop before you pretend to like it.

and Q-Tip

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nothing wrong with getting beats from vets, but joey has already done enough 90s-worship. i'd like to hear stuff that doesn't get over on nostalgia.

>nothing wrong with getting beats from vets, but joey has
>already done enough 90s-worship. i'd like to hear stuff that
>doesn't get over on nostalgia.

Its like you try to have the worst opinion possible
at all times

Someone with an actual ability to rap should get on those beats.

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There are dozens of us! Dozens!

you know so little about anything, ever.

but nah he has a point. the producers he mentioned aren't really 'trendy'...they carry on the torch of the old schoolers in a sense that they have their own fresh and unique styles.

he can still do his 'ode to the 90s' style shit over their production and it would actually sound fresh.

Funny how niggas say he's dickriding the 90s,
and your solution is to dickride all these
rappers he's better than bwahahaha

So you combat dickriding with worse dickriding

Only in The Lesson would a nigga tell BadA$$ to
rap over the same beats that Keef does

I'm sure BadA$$ has a diversity of beatmakers, many
of them modern

He just fuxing with a legend, he's probably mad excited,
be excited for him


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This dweeb doesn't even know enough about rap to recognize the producers I named.

http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

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and listen to the artists you like.
it wouldn't be bad if he spit on those producers you named
but if thats not what he's on, that's not what he's on
he has fans regardless of what your tastes are.

if he wants to do that i dont see what the problem is

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There are enough MCs in the neo boom bap realm (Diamond District, Ka, Roc Marci, Black Hippy, Action Bronson, Meyhem Lauren, etc etc) that I don't really feel the need to listen to dude's music. Maybe dude will mature into a better artist/writer but, as of right now, I attribute most of this kid's buzz to more effective marketing than his actual body of work.

>There are enough MCs in the neo boom bap realm (Diamond
>District, Ka, Roc Marci, Black Hippy, Action Bronson, Meyhem
>Lauren, etc etc) that I don't really feel the need to listen
>to dude's music.

He sounds like none of the people you just name, at all.

Not even a little bit.

> Maybe dude will mature into a better
>artist/writer but, as of right now, I attribute most of this
>kid's buzz to more effective marketing than his actual body of
>work.

"Marketing?"

What "Marketing"

I've literally never seen a commercial or anything,
of any kind. Never heard or seen a promotion until
this Primo thing

First time I heard of him was the BET cipher

Googled him, heard his shit, liked it. Odds are that's
how most grownups heard of him




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>>There are enough MCs in the neo boom bap realm (Diamond
>>District, Ka, Roc Marci, Black Hippy, Action Bronson, Meyhem
>>Lauren, etc etc) that I don't really feel the need to listen
>>to dude's music.
>
>He sounds like none of the people you just name, at all.
>
>Not even a little bit.

That's because they have their own "take" on boom bap. Joey has none.


>> Maybe dude will mature into a better
>>artist/writer but, as of right now, I attribute most of this
>>kid's buzz to more effective marketing than his actual body
>of
>>work.
>
>"Marketing?"
>
>What "Marketing"
>

Dude's managed by the same guy as Big KRIT and Smoke DZA. That's why Joey got immediate love from all the same outlets that those two artists (Fader, Pitchfork, Stereogum, Nah Right, 2 Dope Boyz etc etc). It's what gets him placements on A$AP's album and Black Hippy features. So, yes, Joey is a product of the same "hipster hype machine" that you're obsessed with. Still, I'm glad you don't diagree with my observation about how underwhelming his body of work is.



>I've literally never seen a commercial or anything,
>of any kind. Never heard or seen a promotion until
>this Primo thing


I'm not entirely sure why you're talking about commercials now. Why would Joey have one when he doesn't have an album for sale? Do labels even advertise on TV anymore? Has anyone seen commercials for Kendrick or Keef? Those Pitchfork freestyles, and Fader interviews are as much a part of marketing as anything else in 2013.


>
>First time I heard of him was the BET cipher
>
>Googled him, heard his shit, liked it. Odds are that's
>how most grownups heard of him

I'm proud of you for being so proud of being so grown-up.

I mean, this is a new low, even for you.

>That's because they have their own "take" on boom bap. Joey
>has none.

Not sure what the fuck this means.

I put on 1999, press play, and it sounds good.

Sounds better than most of that shit you just mentioned.

See what happens when you just listen to the music
and don't get caught up in opinions?


>Dude's managed by the same guy as Big KRIT and Smoke DZA.
>That's why Joey got immediate love from all the same outlets
>that those two artists (Fader, Pitchfork, Stereogum, Nah
>Right, 2 Dope Boyz etc etc).

Guess what?!?! None of this shit matters if you just
listen to the music.

It's what gets him placements
>on A$AP's album and Black Hippy features. So, yes, Joey is a
>product of the same "hipster hype machine" that you're
>obsessed with. Still, I'm glad you don't diagree with my
>observation about how underwhelming his body of work is.

LMAO-

He's 17 and had one of the best projects of 2012. What in
blue fuck do you want him to do?


>I'm not entirely sure why you're talking about commercials
>now. Why would Joey have one when he doesn't have an album
>for sale? Do labels even advertise on TV anymore? Has anyone
>seen commercials for Kendrick or Keef? Those Pitchfork
>freestyles, and Fader interviews are as much a part of
>marketing as anything else in 2013.

Never heard a pitchfork freestyle, never read a Fader interview.

I listened to his music and it sounds good.

That's what it means to not be a hipster.

You don't really have an argument beyond "It's going to be good because I see Primo's name attached." Try harder.

You in here talking about who his promoter is
and what magazines like him, what shoes he
wears, who he's going to prom with

OE don't really care about those things

I have heard two projects by Joey

Both of them are fantastic

That is where my opinion comes from

I literally don't care what high school he goes
to or what is on his tumblr

I listen to music

LOL @ the Lesson

fit into only caring about the music?

>nothing wrong with getting beats from vets, but joey has
>already done enough 90s-worship. i'd like to hear stuff that
>doesn't get over on nostalgia.

I don't even call it "getting over"...young dude just happens to like rapping on that shit WE ALL used to love (and some still do).

I'm in the minority here I'm certain, but I think Joey would sound good on anything he raps on.

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of them before Premier.

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Bigger problem is, all of you are hipsters
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Wouldnt prefer them over Preem but I´d def. wanna hear that too!

Modern day Illmatic?

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Whomever he works with, dude needs to establish a distinct voice. For the most part, his music is in one ear and out the other.

i like joey though.

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Unbelievable

This is a new level of hipsterism

I mean, WOW


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have some Mountain Dew!

Who serious bout hip hop and aint want this???

Like, whats not to like?

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it's like, he's got the p4k/fader cosigns, so they want to buy in (for fear of being "OUT OF THE LOOP")

but the trapped-in-the-90s niggas fuck w him too, so they instinctively temper their enthusiasm a bit

interesting dynamic

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>it's like, he's got the p4k/fader cosigns, so they want to
>buy in (for fear of being "OUT OF THE LOOP")
>
>but the trapped-in-the-90s niggas fuck w him too, so they
>instinctively temper their enthusiasm a bit
>
>interesting dynamic

Right now, they've settled on this:

"Joey is nice, but he needs to stop his infatuation with
the 1990s."

90% of hipsters have this exact commentary.

It allows them to be on board with a kid who is clearly
monstrously talented on the mic (and is 17 y/o) while
throwing in their routine hate of anything resembling
an appreciation for the 90s (weird how hipsters
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a lot of wait and see, i grade him incomplete, jury's still out, room for improvement, type comments.

lulz




>Right now, they've settled on this:
>
>"Joey is nice, but he needs to stop his infatuation with
>the 1990s."
>
>90% of hipsters have this exact commentary.
>
>It allows them to be on board with a kid who is clearly
>monstrously talented on the mic (and is 17 y/o) while
>throwing in their routine hate of anything resembling
>an appreciation for the 90s (weird how hipsters
>have this animosity towards the golden age of hip-hop)

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especially not yours

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Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

makes you less afraid of teenagers and strawmen, be my guest.

and has proven it already.

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Capital Steez tape was a total bust.

He's had some decent guest verses though.

...the super duper white suburb dude continues to try to dominate convo up in these boards...always from the outside looking in...lol...mrshow knows all you darkies....!!!!

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

(Insert name of artist he's been told it's okay to like by a Rawkus press release) + ellipsis + "dope" + ellipsis + "long live hip hop" or some other vague platitude he heard on the break-dancing episode of Blossom.

example:

New High & Mighty...dope...hip hop lives

i'm digging it more.

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mistamonotone - taboo
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IG: mistamonotone

Joey is nice but Premier? wack. Dude needs to give it up. Maybe invest in another sound. I don't know what happend to this guy.

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Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

Do people think its cute to badmouth legends

I mean, hating on Primo is wrong for two reasons:

a) He still outproduces 99.9999999999999999999% of
top producers in the game

b) Its stupid and pretentious to talk shit about a
pioneer. Cats think it makes them "edgy" when it
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this dweeb is the best

sorry bruh, he's not outproducing anyone these days. Dude is making beats like he's on nyquil. Really hasn't done much since '98. Premier is great or was great. He just never progressed. He stayed brainwashed in that "real hip hop" purist mind state.

You are aware that two of his best beats (Nas Is Like & Boom) both came out after 98 right?

post that someone made a while ago about dope beats that preemo has done after the 90s

I don't see whats wrong with him being in the same mentality, when that era was significantly better than the one we find ourselfs in now

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This guy is what is wrong with music

WTF is a "real hip-hop purist?"

He's a DJ and producer, idiot. He has a sound
that he invented. He does this for a living.

LOL @ hipsters

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nice avy, bitch

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i love this reply

so many other good examples that could be pulled up

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Time to "update the formula" (c)Guru. Not even to what everybody else is doing, but within his style. Explore some new sounds and a new setup. The last update was like Moment of Truth (98).

http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

I would def. STAY IN THAT LANE TOO!!!

Wouldnt change a thing.

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and not upgrading your sound. Because you can do both.

I'm a big advocate of staying in one's lane, but the 2 are not the same.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

Dude's work isn't as good as it once was. Shit happens to pretty much every artist regardless of medium/genre. If somebody think this song is even in the same universe as 90s Primo, I honestly question how much/why they really liked him in the first place.

not touching 90s Preem.

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Man, you dudes on okayplayer don't like shit. It's hard to take this board serious anymore. The song is dope. Period

peace

"Highly developed spirits often encounter resistance from mediocre minds."-Albert Einstein

http://twitter.com/#!/TonyHanesPoetry

>Man, you dudes on okayplayer don't like shit. It's hard to
>take this board serious anymore. The song is dope. Period
>
>peace

I see plenty of love for artists on this board...new and old

I agree the it's a tight song, but it is a bit sleepy, no real switch ups or multi sample lyric scratches they way only preem can do, so yes, it's is a bit boring for a preem beat. bada$$ sounds the same as he always does.

lurkin since 1999. werd.

'if it's not Dilla derivative, I don't like it'
it'll make you feel better

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End of days.