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wrecknoble
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"J. Cole - Miss America <LINK>"


  

          

http://itzsoweezee.com/j-cole-miss-america/

J. Cole has been pretty quiet lately.. I gotta admit, dude had an ill run leading up to Friday Night Lights.. and then that album happened lol

this track isn't too bad though.. he really needs to put out a fire mixtape before the next album though

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he's been putting out some pretty good shit recently
Nov 12th 2012
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He's only gonna get better.
Nov 12th 2012
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i agree, i feel like he had a MASSIVE buzz though
Nov 12th 2012
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      That's because he wanted it to.
Nov 13th 2012
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What's wrong with the album, exactly?
Nov 13th 2012
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And the Missy joint is my favorite shit on the album, so he's winning.
Nov 13th 2012
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I disagree
Nov 13th 2012
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I think he fell back to work on his craft..his BEATS!
Nov 13th 2012
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word i'm with you on that
Nov 13th 2012
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RE: I think he fell back to work on his craft..his BEATS!
Nov 13th 2012
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      here ya go
Nov 14th 2012
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Wait wat?
Nov 13th 2012
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Cole's album didn't come out too far away from Big Sean's...
Nov 13th 2012
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      but cole world sold more
Nov 13th 2012
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           i guess what i'm saying is that
Nov 13th 2012
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Did you see the trailer for the upcoming album?
Nov 13th 2012
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not creepy to me but that was cool
Nov 13th 2012
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meh
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ChampAreno
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Mon Nov-12-12 10:03 PM

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1. "he's been putting out some pretty good shit recently"
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He went on the Major Lazer song, worked the beat a little differently. His verses on Wayne and Big Sean's mixtapes weren't bad either. And The Cure is still dope too.

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Ashley Ayers
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Mon Nov-12-12 10:10 PM

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2. "He's only gonna get better."
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Yall gon learn to respect my prophecy, lol.

  

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wrecknoble
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Mon Nov-12-12 10:16 PM

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3. "i agree, i feel like he had a MASSIVE buzz though"
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Mon Nov-12-12 10:16 PM by wrecknoble

  

          

and then it kinda just faded?

i went to his show in Toronto after the Friday Night Lights mixtape dropped and he had Sound Academy (>3000 ppl capacity) sold the hell out with people going crazy trying to find last minute tickets

but then it was like a gradual drift into no-one-checkin-for-him territory..

his production is getting tighter and i check for his music when it drops, but i mean i check a lot of music.. i'm just wondering if he will recapture that buzz that he had built up about two years ago

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phemom
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Tue Nov-13-12 01:15 AM

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4. "That's because he wanted it to."
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He stopped dropping records & videos on purpose. I saw an interview in the summer where he took the stance that too much music drops and people don't appreciate it, so he'll fall back. That said, I think he should've dropped at least 1 or 2 more vids from CWTSS, because it still had legs.

As for this song it's dope, and I find it interesting that he's dropping an album in January...idk if that'll stick.

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Oak27
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Tue Nov-13-12 08:46 AM

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5. "What's wrong with the album, exactly?"
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It was a solid 4 out of 5 album, to me. Only tracks I don't like are the Missy track and the one right after

  

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Ashley Ayers
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8. "And the Missy joint is my favorite shit on the album, so he's winning."
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10. "I disagree"
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I gave it a 3.5 in my review.

Excerpt:

Aside from the contrived, Kanye and Paula Abdul-sampled “Work Out,” J. Cole assembles a solid collection of radio-ready jams. “Can’t Get Enough” utilizes a staccato flow and a Trey Songz chorus for Cole to address his addiction to women, while “In The Morning” see him and Drake cooing women for early action. “Cole World” features an energetic (though formulaic) soundbed for his braggadocio, and a Missy Elliott hook fuels “Nobody’s Perfect.” Though these songs aren’t as rousing as his soul-bearing offerings, they still add necessary balance to the album.

The main fault of Cole World is its beat selection. J. Cole solely produced 15 of the disc’s 18 tracks, and played or co-produced another. He proves himself a capable beatmaker with songs like “Breakdown,” and handling so many duties admirably gives the album an extra sense of authenticity. Still, Cole would have benefitted by cashing in his Roc Nation clout for contributions from some heavyweights. With the notable dubstep influence of the Jay-Z-assisted “Mr. Nice Watch” as an exception, many of Cole’s beats sound too similar to each other and don’t match the conviction of his rhymes. And despite the songs still being good, some fans may also dislike the inclusion of songs from Cole’s last mixtapes as anything but bonus tracks at the end.

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6. "I think he fell back to work on his craft..his BEATS!"
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Tue Nov-13-12 09:22 AM by Menphyel7

  

          

have gotten much better now..

he wouldn't have made something like They ready a while back.

The cure was genius too how he found the best part on the worst song of watch the throne and killed it.

that looping I"m a fool from Cee-lo was killer too.

he has relesed nothing but heat so far.

they ready, I'ma fool, cure and now this.

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wrecknoble
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7. "word i'm with you on that"
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his beats have been steadily improving in the past year

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The Mac
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13. "RE: I think he fell back to work on his craft..his BEATS!"
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>that looping I"m a fool from Cee-lo was killer too.
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which one is this??

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Menphyel7
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18. "here ya go"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn47k4_rPG4

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Buddy_Gilapagos
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9. "Wait wat?"
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That Last Album had more singles on the radio then other young hip-hop solo artist this summer.


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Ketchums
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11. "Cole's album didn't come out too far away from Big Sean's..."
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And Sean's had much better singles.

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Tue Nov-13-12 08:23 PM

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15. "but cole world sold more"
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J. Cole's debut was a resounding success. So why this talk about he lost his buzz? He mentioned before that he doesn't want to be one of those niggas that dilute themselves dropping 25 million mixtapes. He want to be one that just lay low and then come out the blue with some new shit when you least expected. It's been working for him, so let him do him.

  

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wrecknoble
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Tue Nov-13-12 08:33 PM

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16. "i guess what i'm saying is that"
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Tue Nov-13-12 08:34 PM by wrecknoble

  

          

he was allllll over the place and then kinda faded away after dropping a lackluster album.. it did sell decently and he had some radio-friendly singles.. but from a critical standpoint, it wasn't nearly as good as the material on his mixtapes or some of the loosies that dropped

i feel like his buzz faded in the sense that no on is really reacting to his music like 'YOU HEAR THAT NEW J.COLE JOINT?!', and i think part of that is because a lot of his original fans (myself included) were like 'meh' after the album. not to mention the other quality albums that dropped after his (in the past year) that have overshadowed him as an emcee.

yes his production skills have improved and that's a good sign. and i want him to do well, i hope he drops some fire in the next couple of months that will make me be recant my statements that his buzz is nowhere near the feverish hype i felt he had in late 2010 through 2011

edit: i also get what you said about him not really wanting to be that guy that waters down his product by oversaturating.. but some ill guest verses here and there wouldn't hurt, no one is saying drop 100 tracks in a year

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12. "Did you see the trailer for the upcoming album?"
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It's kinda creepy lol

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wrecknoble
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14. "not creepy to me but that was cool"
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actually got me kinda anticipating it!

in my original post I didn't mean to say that he flopped or anything, but I meant that it seemed as if his original buzz just gradually died down. the album, in my eyes, didn't live up to expectations. i think his mixtapes were better and i bump them more.

obviously i (and most of us on here) still check for dude's music, but again i check for a lot of music and i don't know how reflective that is of all the non-internet-heavy average music fans

i guess what he needs is a couple of fire singles.. the album is out end of January.. a couple of solid singles and one dope ass video might lead to that buzz once again

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17. "meh"
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>It's kinda creepy lol
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