i want to go on the record and say it's all downhill from this point. this is just straight up wack. like the visuals, the song, everything. nevermind she's on like her 7th video for a song that sounds the exact same as the last one.
it's sad people get so little "mileage" out of singles these days. most acts repertoire is not that layered that they can "feed" the internet with something new every month/week/day... it's just a total burn-out of an act with lackluster financial results. i mean i'd doubt azaelia banks even has 10,000 dollars to her name. some new paradigm this all is...
19. "RE: no, he should do business rationally" In response to Reply # 18
rationally in this case meaning accept any amount of money from the person who used his entire track without permission on a free release and then took steps toward selling it as a single all still without permission?
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13. "with every reply, this post gets worse and worse" In response to Reply # 5
>It's supposed to drop in Feb, but I doubt it makes that date. >I understand the discontent, but who else is making rap in her >lane. > >I shouldn't say this, but if she was fine she would be a way >bigger deal.
16. "RE: I still wanna hear what that album like." In response to Reply # 5
>I shouldn't say this, but if she was fine she would be a way >bigger deal.
She's not good looking now?
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62. "I don't think she's unattractive, but some people do. " In response to Reply # 16
My non-internet friends think she mad ugly....I think if she looked like Nitty Scott, MC the outlook would be different. It's a double standard, but it's real.
Personally tho, I like that's in my mind she's a Dipset member rapping over hipster music....and I want more of it.
63. "Hmm, I think she's insanely sexy *shrugs*" In response to Reply # 62
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and add angel haze, hopsin, and tyler the creator to that list.
Every time a new cat comes out the gate dissing trying to tear other artists down for attention i stop caring about the talent and focusing on the fact they let somebody bullshit them or chose to get on some gimmick beef starting shenanigans.
I don't even care if the people they talking about deserve the criticism, don't come out swinging when we don't know you won't fall into that same lane. . . which you just did for even talking shit when you brand new!!! argrrghrh!!!
7. "The lesson cannot comprehend azaelia" In response to Reply # 0
Why?
1)The lesson doesn't dance 2)The lesson is homophobic as hell
Assuming she stops beefing with producers(which is the WORST career sabatoge she can do considering her niche), she's got a long lucrative dance music career ahead of her. You know, the charts that traditionally nobody cared about but kept Deborah Cox's career going for over a decade*
*That said, i wonder how much overlap is there between the billboard dance and billboard top pop charts; ive got a sneaking suspicion its not as much you would expect in 2012z
>Why? > >1)The lesson doesn't dance >2)The lesson is homophobic as hell
How many people on here (I don't do clubs so myself included) can even comprehend the type of impact she can have on the dance scene? All we know is that she's doesn't have any "rap" hits yet, and she doesn't seem to be getting the type of traction on hip-hop radio to become the next Nicki Minaj.
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33. "We forget she IS a CLUB rapper. Period. All her songs=club songs" In response to Reply # 20
Her biggest hit was a dance song. Her mixtape has no straight forward hip-hop songs outside of her Dipset cover, it's all difference genre's of DANCE.
Considering she can spit and r&b has a horrible fascination currently with euro dance music if her career continues she can come back around and make waves in traditional black folks music...but her current trajectory would put her firmly out of reach of anyone on here to keep track of. For anyone to keep track of goings on in dance music you kinda have to give everything else up, lol...it requires way too much focus since its so fast moving.
36. "yeah, most in here think she's a traditonal rapper" In response to Reply # 7 Tue Nov-13-12 12:20 PM by astralblak
she raps on dance music and at times sings.
her lane is part of the new generation of club kids dressing like its the 80s in the future popping molly and smoking kush like their nicotine fiends
it works very well in that environment
and you she also has a couple of tradtional slappers as well
as far as her as a person/public persona, running her mouth, beefing with people who don't give two shits about her (Jim Jones) or were building reps with her (Munchi) it's just fucn dumb and off putting
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39. "RE: yeah, most in here think she's a traditonal rapper" In response to Reply # 36 Tue Nov-13-12 01:06 PM by bavid dammer
>she raps on dance music and at times sings.
she uses the same song structure on every song i've ever heard from her. not to mention the beat that she uses are all atypical. it's gotten dull. this just is an exclaimation mark. she's really going to have to drop something dope and new to rejuvenate the interest and "likers" (not fans) she will lose from this horrible dud.
>her lane is part of the new generation of club kids dressing >like its the 80s in the future popping molly and smoking kush >like their nicotine fiends
every year since 2006 this has been presented as the "new generation". this shit you outlined is 7 fucking years old. and if you really have been paying attention it goes all the way back to like 2002/2003 in LES circles. here's what you're being naive about. this is so bad and trite that it's straight up DATED. if this had dropped exactly as it is in perhaps 2008 this might have ruffled some feathers in the blogosphere. it's just sadly out of date at this point. and it just raises a huge chink in azealia's armor to anyone with an astute sense of observation... is she just going through the motions to try to get indie blog "relevancy" and fame via making the same house-hop song over and over and slapping them to some stereotypical "hipster" aesthetics in an attempt to up her "buzz"?
i'll let you decide. i'm just saying that after this color me disinterested. she's going to really have to come back with a curve ball that is DYNAMITE to counterbalance how wack this new video/"single"/"buzzbuilding" clip was.
42. "most of her fans seem to be ignoring Atlantis tho" In response to Reply # 39
>she's going to really have to come back with a curve ball that >is DYNAMITE
I do agree with this point. She's gunna have to show alot of growth on this new album or else she'll fade. It's a shame because I think she's dope but we know the pressure and expectations are much higher for black female artists.
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43. "they're ignoring for now..." In response to Reply # 42
but not forgetting. this is a huge misstep anyway you slice it. she will probably "apologize" for this "single" at some point due to the response it's receiving. but think: what will she actually be apologizing for? i mean she just thought this is what y'all wanted from her, right? lol.
47. "Not at all. You aren't the audience" In response to Reply # 39 Tue Nov-13-12 01:09 PM by BigReg
Blogs have gone in on Skrillex for YEARS with sneak dissing on Bro-step while he pandered directly to Middle American kids trying to dance...it's only after the teens overseas accepted him with open arms in the past year that they've switched their tune.
The question is will that will the whole 80s/90's throwback appeal to the dance community as much as the bloggers...will she be able to eventually parley that into a Guetta phone call? Zomby's throwback 'Where were you in 92' was a huge album few years ago, but I have the sneaking suspicion that most real dance fans ain't give a fuck.
A 'hit' from her in the traditional sense bubbling up enough for us to hear & be impressed would NOT be good for her career imho.
49. "we pretty much agree" In response to Reply # 39
>>she raps on dance music and at times sings. > >she uses the same song structure on every song i've ever heard >from her. >not to mention the beat that she uses are all atypical. >it's gotten dull. >this just is an exclaimation mark. >she's really going to have to drop something dope and new to >rejuvenate the interest and "likers" (not fans) she will lose >from this horrible dud.
yup, but how do you know this is a dud, and why do you care, if you're not a fan. why are you invested in pointing this out. i agree with you about what she's doing, but don't care, because it's not music i listen too. her song with Style P I like though
>every year since 2006 this has been presented as the "new >generation". >this shit you outlined is 7 fucking years old. >and if you really have been paying attention it goes all the >way back to like 2002/2003 in LES circles. >here's what you're being naive about. >this is so bad and trite that it's straight up DATED. >if this had dropped exactly as it is in perhaps 2008 this >might have ruffled some feathers in the blogosphere. >it's just sadly out of date at this point. >and it just raises a huge chink in azealia's armor to anyone >with an astute sense of observation... >is she just going through the motions to try to get indie blog >"relevancy" and fame via making the same house-hop song over >and over and slapping them to some stereotypical "hipster" >aesthetics in an attempt to up her "buzz"? > >i'll let you decide. >i'm just saying that after this color me disinterested. >she's going to really have to come back with a curve ball that >is DYNAMITE to counterbalance how wack this new >video/"single"/"buzzbuilding" clip was.
that's typical of club culture. every few years certain clicks and scenes in major cities think they're doing something new, when it's really just dressing up in the latest trends, drinking, doing drugs and hoping to have sex with varients of house and electronic music as the sound track. this been the thing since disco.
again if the song just came out how do you know if, it's a dud and why do you care. where you a fan?
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60. "RE: we pretty much agree" In response to Reply # 49
>again if the song just came out how do you know if, it's a dud >and why do you care. were you a fan?
you know what? i was a fan. i love early 90's house almost unconditionally. i don't really know many of these new names she's rapping over but maybe i should. anyway, she is a really effective rapper in that she actually MATCHES her tracks with her voice and rapping. it's dull to me that she's making the same song so many times over and over again but then we get "this" debacle of a video... i'm ready to write her off unless she drops something new, and by new i mean something that's different and enjoyable.
51. "fam, i know you saw that twitter exchange" In response to Reply # 40
Jim just used some word / slang, she got all bothered by it, popped off and he responded. she, as in most cases didn't need to go that route
i feel she lashes out at her contemporaries (like that Krayshawn shit was just corny) to contirbute to the buzz building, but it comes off like young girl need a hug or some good dick / vag eating
>i feel she lashes out at her contemporaries (like that >Krayshawn shit was just corny) to contirbute to the buzz >building, but it comes off like young girl need a hug or some >good dick / vag eating
It's shitty promo and doesn't make her seem any more interesting to pay attention too. At first I put it up to the fact that she is young & ratchet first, ask questions later goes with that territory..but now it's just a cry for attention.
21. "The mixtape was solid and showed humour." In response to Reply # 15
As the cat above said, she will have a good career in dance music if she stays with good production. Her two main flaws are (1) her self-sung choruses, she should get another female voice and (2) her being sold as a big name artist by the flailing music industry, instead of a genre artist good for a solid late-night single to take drugs to.
I think what Bammers cynicism is coming from is the feeling that the internet is good for highlighting talent and/or 'different' music personas, but hasn't proved it can incubate talent like a chitlin circuit or any real sub-culture. Everything comes out half-baked.
24. "Any artist with an internet buzz can get an assload of press." In response to Reply # 21
>As the cat above said, she will have a good career in dance >music if she stays with good production. Her two main flaws >are (1) her self-sung choruses, she should get another female >voice and (2) her being sold as a big name artist by the >flailing music industry, instead of a genre artist good for a >solid late-night single to take drugs to. > >I think what Bammers cynicism is coming from is the feeling >that the internet is good for highlighting talent and/or >'different' music personas, but hasn't proved it can incubate >talent like a chitlin circuit or any real sub-culture. >Everything comes out half-baked.
That's why most stuff comes out half-baked. We hear about these all acts before they've put in the type of work that will give you an idea as to whether they are built to last. These websites are in competition with each other, so it makes sense to try and jump on the next big thing before everyone else. The downside is every little ray of hope gets to be treated like the damn Sun, if only for a span of a week to two months. Before the internet explosion these acts had to grind it out locally in hopes of getting a half a page to a page in a major music publication. I think all the early hype is a hindrance to an artist's development. All that coverage probably makes them feel like they are destined for success as long as they stay the course. Some might already feel like they have succeeded. _________________________________________ The Combat Jack Show is the best hip-hop related internet radio show http://thecombatjackshow.com/
25. "if you dont listen to house music you probably wont get it" In response to Reply # 15
I thought it was dope though I love her beat selection The mixtape is very elctro/dubstep/house influenced Back in 08 I got hip to housed via araquals mixes and Shinobi shaw but prior to that I would've had the same Thoughts about the tape. The beat selection is dope Esp the one that samples the donell Jones track
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28. "i hate when rappers say shit like that" In response to Reply # 26
It really irks me lol Like they've outgrown rap or someshit .lol
But yeah I don't really see her Getting a lot of.traction here in the us Maybe in a few cities with a strong Electronic/dance presence (miami maybe?) I can see her making an impact in the UK And in Europe which is cool too she might Get some play on some pop stations too.
At least you attempted to listen to her though
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34. "that 1991 ep was very dope" In response to Reply # 29
If her album is in that vein, I'm on board The mixtape had a few misteps on it though I think she loses ppl with some of the Empty double time.rapping Her singing voice is nice too
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27. "the track munchi made wouldve KILLED this summer" In response to Reply # 0
It would've made more impact than this song This isnt one of the stronger cuts.off the tape. But overall I enjoyed the tape I think that she's still growing and the album Will not sound like "fantasea" but more Like "1991" very house ish with a slower tempo I like her vocals so hopefully she expounds On what that 1991 video did for her.
Her and machinedrum are a great combo imo
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53. "lol! ive been told that a few times " In response to Reply # 52
I like to break everything up especially with forum posts I dont know about everyone else but I hate when posts span The entire witdth of the text box Shit makes me Damn near go cross eyed lol
Plus I try to make my posts as readable as possible lol
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bavid dammer Member since Oct 23rd 2012 1369 posts
Mon Aug-05-13 09:36 PM
71. "i got the pharrell one right too." In response to Reply # 70
how he landed placements for 8 years without producing a top 40 hit single will go down as the greatest streak of being rewarded for dropping duds in contemporary music history.
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bavid dammer Member since Oct 23rd 2012 1369 posts
Mon Aug-05-13 10:11 PM
73. "i'm not saying he didn't comeback.." In response to Reply # 72
name another "in demand" producer that went 8 years between hits.
it's unprecedented imo. that was the crux of that post. that pharrell was still in demand despite failing for almost a decade. and there's nothing incorrect about any of that.
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77. "RE: do you think azaelia banks career is over?" In response to Reply # 0
Doubt she'll ever be at 212 status again since that was a fluke... The new Pharell record kinda goes tho...
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