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Is there anyone personally to you that "hip hop" has decided to crown a "Legend" that just doesnt have a "Classic LP" to you? This is just for you personally. Again.......these are only personal opinions so add yours....(if you like) The thread doesn't have to be about my picks below.

My answer is #1 Eminem. I do believe he is a legend and one of the top 10 most skilled rappers of all time. Talent wise he is closer to number 5. The Marshal Mathers LP was a 4.5/5 to me and that is easily his best LP to me. He has GREAT songs but average LP's.

#2 Kool G. Rap: many will not agree with me here but I don't feel he has a classic LP. He has classic songs. To me, 4,5,6 is his best LP and it's 4.5/5 to me. He is a legend and one of the best all time but he has good to great LP's.

#3. ICE-T: A legend and has 1-2 GREAT LP's....not sure if they are
classic though.

#4. Master P is a legend but no classics. Ghetto D was his best LP. Again, 4.5/5 to me.

#The Ghetto Boys: Sorry, I like their LP's but none are a certified calssic to me like when I think of The Chronic or The Low End Theory

#5. The Jungle Brothers: Well, some don't consider them legends but some do. They have some great music and good LP's...I wouldn't call them Classic though...

Those come to mind.....I have like 10 more but will see who you all list..

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That's why its called an opinion my friend. And no, my post are not typical of anything on okayplayer b/c I don't know anyone on here and not part of no type of click. These are my thoughts. I'm a Kool G. Rap fan but he doesnt have a Paid In Full or Criminal Minded to me...personally and no...I'm no young buck who has not seen several eras of Hip Hop....peace

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It is to me. It's the only one that doesn't sound dated now to me as well. He has some better songs on his other LP's but 4,5,6 was better or at least my personal favorite by G-Rap.

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he sorta created a lil lane with The dude...Wiz and them owe a debt to him sorta lol

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what's the other?

I'm big on the Ressurection too

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Grip It! was that shit, and I like that remix album based on that one.

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shit..ushered in the Native Tongues movment...I know they got overshadowed by those who came behind them..tribe and De La but Done by the forces of nature and Straight outta the Jungle is some classic shit.

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>Done by the forces of nature and Straight outta the Jungle
>is some classic shit.

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I'm on the fence as to whether I would entertain "Diplomatic Immunity Vol.1" being an impact classic. It went platinum, but honestly I don't think many people outside of their region were banging Dipest.
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with all them mixtapes and shit they had..they keep dropping products before anyone else was really doing that.

but yea them first 5 dipset mixtapes and the DI they was killing shit.

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them Dipset dudes. And they'd hate us for sayin they weren't real Bloods n all that. It took me a while to even enjoy their music...now some tracks are classics to me, like Dipset anthem

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then when I went to my cousin campus at Clark...Dip set was God. Them NY transplants worship them.

when still make fun of them over dip set.."doU hear WHAThesaid...doUhear what hesaid?"

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>...now some tracks are classics to me, like Dipset
>anthem

I'm sure "Dah Shinin' & "Enta Da Stage" are classics to the BK over 30 set, but does the rest of the world cut for those albums like that?
If you put all the BCC acts together you'd have to say they are a legendary rap clique, but if you go album for album against a lot of other well know rap cliques you'll see their output left a lot to be desired.
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i'll call that a personal classic though. it's the best out of that camp.

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no, but okay, lol

his flow on the remixes is where its at. Dah Shinin is easily better but
i'm not gonna argue with you over opinions fam.

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that's really the only album where i REALLY like Buck's voice and flow.

but bof those albums about equal to me

Hate is too strong a word. I just liked Dah Shinin a lot more.

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Enta da stage, nocturnal, dah shinin are all classic

the OGC album just barely missed out imo but its still a great album

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Enta Da Stage and Dah Shinin are about as classic as classic gets.

#1: don't care
#2: solo wise, you mean? Difficult to say
#3. ICE-T
Speak for yourself. O.G. ORIGINAL GANGSTER is a great album from start to finish. I can say the same for FREEDOM OF SPEECH but O.G. can't be touched, IMHO.
#4: never was a big fan
#5: The self-titled Def American album, for me, is great. Some people tend to prefer the more-underground GRIP IT ON THAT OTHER LEVEL, but I like how Rick Rubin "ruined" the album.
#5. DONE BY THE FORCES OF NATURE. 16 songs, from start to finish: one of my certified classics, easily up there with Tribe's and De La's first two.




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The Coming and When Disaster Strikes are personal classics IMO

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but he, like Busta, has a series of good and "solid" records. rarely anything superlative for the full length.

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. . .albums.

Which two of the three is up to you.

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Done by the forces of nature, an album it took me 15 years to appreciate, mostly because I always found their MC'ing a bit lame and too old school but I got over it and BAM! what a killer record. I play it more often than "3 feet..." actually.

As for their others, the debut is probably a classic in terms of importance (was anyone laid-back and "intellectual" like them prior to that?) but the sparse, Lo-fi production worked better for more hardcore acts IMO; I think they need a more colourful and playful sound.

"Jbeez with the remedy" is too hit-and-miss even if I dug the video version of "My jimmy weighs a ton" and they get bonus-props for sampling the Stooges "Dirt". I still haven't gotten around to hear the refused "Crazy wizdom masters"-stuff yet, maybe that one is better...

. . .well, ever.

So, there's one of my picks revealed.

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but I'll just say you're TERRIBLY off the mark with this one

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And what about Tical as a solo LP?

Nah, I wouldn't put it up there with the true wu classics. Good album though.

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tfa
illadel
and DYWM

could be argued as classics imo

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even if i prefer Rising Down's complete bleakness, I know Game Theory did something real remarkable as a whole piece of music. shit also happened as music began to go digital, the south reign began to die out and rap sales began to dwindle

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But no 5-star classic. Illadelph is the closest

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I'd add DYWM and TRCA, but those at least could be argued as only near classics

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-disagree, btw.

illadelph & tfa are always arguable.

i'm biased, tho.

Both acts had great songs, but never an album without more filler

DeBarge - "In A Special Way" is closest (4 of 9 tracks are at least middlin - if not great)

Smokey (and I'm talking solo Smokey, Smokey w/ the Miracles you gotta *at least* give "Goin to a Go-Go") hasn't really come close since '75s Quiet Storm (though some might argue for Love Breeze in 1978)

I think the ultimate point with this post is that folks who had their careers mainly during "singles eras" are more likely to have become legendary for great songs than full sets

reading the responses thus far we fell into the "what defines a classic?" hole

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Sure there are a couple of songs that don't seem as great as some of the others, but that's because the best songs on this album are undeniable classics ("Time Will Reveal," "Stay With Me" etc)

Yet I find myself reluctant to call the LP as a whole a "classic." Maybe it's because I don't use that word much. Maybe because it's Debarge and like most people I'm stuck with the perpetual image of them as a group that *almost* made it. So yeah, I think of it as *almost* a classic.

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>Yet I find myself reluctant to call the LP as a whole a
>"classic." Maybe it's because I don't use that word much.
>Maybe because it's Debarge and like most people I'm stuck with
>the perpetual image of them as a group that *almost* made it.
>So yeah, I think of it as *almost* a classic.

can't believe nobody said Pac altho I would disagree

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Me Against The World is Pac best LP to me personally but All Eyes On Me (Disc 1 alone) is a classic in my eyes...impact, sales, great singles..etc..etc..

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like his go to perfect album... but he keeps following the same formula

Intro
Street Song
Street Single
Regular Single
Dirty South Song
West Coast Song
Song featuring Jeezy or Wayne
etc

I agree 100%

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I mean, he has a lot of potential, but he's not legendary. I mean, even by his standards I doubt he's legendary.

sounds like you're sayin' those lps aren't popular

life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely

admittedly im not a huge fan, but can admire his skills. i've heard people say reasonable doubt, but to me i just aint hearin it as that much of a standout. certainly not as much as other classics from the same era and a little before.

in a few yrs, mofos wil agrue WTT.


watch.

both sound dated to me tho. not that thats a disqualifier for classics, but really who still wants to listen to h to the izzo and shit

I love Jay-Z music and like Kanye a lot but WTT is not even close to being a classic. That LP would be at the bottom of both of their list of LP's...

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Reasonable Doubt is arguable as well.

American Gangster is another (personal) classic, still.

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