http://library.brown.edu/OJS/index.php/MusicGrads/article/view/104/89

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I feel so slighted.

internet board constitute a source?? lol

i mean in the context of the paper...but

smfh

made a lot of good points i think...

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...some dude was getting his doctorate? I'm hating.

that is not a doctorate level paper...

not even masters thesis...

thats undergrad all the way

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In fact, it's a first-year-of-grad-school paper, and a perfectly good one.

>In fact, it's a first-year-of-grad-school paper, and a
>perfectly good one.

i wasn't dissing the quality

earlier in the post i said it made good points.

its just masters thesis and doctorate level papers is a whole nother ballgame.

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>>In fact, it's a first-year-of-grad-school paper, and a
>>perfectly good one.
>
>i wasn't dissing the quality
>
>earlier in the post i said it made good points.
>
>its just masters thesis and doctorate level papers is a whole
>nother ballgame.
>
>


100 pages more of another ballgame lol

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>its just masters thesis and doctorate level papers is a whole
>nother ballgame.

Which is why I was curious exactly what characteristics of the paper you thought marked it as undergrad-level.

its more editorial than research paper. there is no data to back up the assumptions besides (edited by the author) message board chatter...which is wildly problematic. there are no statistics even for post data on OKP

its a nice paper with some interesting observations but its not scholarly in a research context.

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Ethnomusicology isn't a quantitative discipline.

i feel you...

any critical thinker can have a field day on your interpretations though...

like what could you say definitively???

its michael moore-ish. in that he throws in everything that supports his point and edits out what doesn't...

for example...do you know how many posts erykah has made here?? and so you choose to hone in on two and use those two examples as proof of misogyny...when the other 500 posts may have run contrary (not saying they do but... its possible)

then..just the message board itself

there are trolls, contrarians, aliases etc. some posts are people arguing with or for themselves lol

k-orr is further up saying it was an "off day" post. too many confounds to end in useful analysis. but this is a guy who argued everyone in psych thesis seminar that any experiments on animals were pseduo-experiments lol

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Esp. the presence of trolls, contrarians, and aliases.

although it's kind of out of context

the funny shit though is that all of his resources as far as the boards go are from this year
i bet he just threw this shit together last minute
in true okprocrastinator fashion

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My bored @ work thoughts inspires cats to write long ass diatribes.

This is like the 2nd time i've found myself mentioned in a collegiate paper.

There are probably thousands.

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>WHERE'S MY CHECK (c) a pissed off Kool Herc @ some event one
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I wanna read it.

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* never seen the poster before, which is a reason it was ignored
* the thesis changed from when the inbox was sent

last one is the most interesting. it would seem the resultant thesis made for a much more 'interesting' study.

things it draws to question though:

* can public online user data really be source material for a study?
* should the poster's own embeddedness in the community be required in order to ascertain with certainty their ability to grasp the data as presented within the community?

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

and had nothing to so with music or the lesson. it also addresses both men and women
and i was kinda being facetious because the gender warz were off the chain that day lol

i wanna know what grade he got lol

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will it reflect on the writer's grade?
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just as I would read them scrolling through the web

I didn't even Ctrl+F for my name and STILL saw my shit.

At least he got the caps structure right.


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at the Harvard Metalab:
metalab.harvard.edu/2012/07/paper-machines/

"Below is a screenshot from the “topic” view of our application, showing the
output of a topic model analysis. Such an analysis assumes that texts are
comprised of various collections of words (“topics”) according to a probability
distribution; the algorithm infers which words make up which topics and which
topics make up which documents based solely on word co-occurrence, without prior
semantic knowledge. These topics are machine-generated, but often reveal a
surprising coherence; for example, the “estate, tenant, law” topic above also
includes “property, right, rent, lease, heir, inclosure” and so on. The topics
below give a sense of some of the changing concerns in two subsets of the
corpus:"

"My own research as a Ph.D student at Brown focuses on the intertwining of
technology with race, gender, and sexuality in contemporary African-American
music and online discourse on sites like Twitter, Tumblr, Okayplayer and
Rapgenius. While my subject is superficially quite different from Jo’s, I
believe this tool will help me to condense the massive corpora of these online
fora into more manageable forms. I am excited to see what other uses may emerge
from this project once it is released to the broader community."

>at the Harvard Metalab:
>metalab.harvard.edu/2012/07/paper-machines/
>
>"Below is a screenshot from the “topic” view of our
>application, showing the
>output of a topic model analysis. Such an analysis assumes
>that texts are
>comprised of various collections of words (“topics”) according
>to a probability
>distribution; the algorithm infers which words make up which
>topics and which
>topics make up which documents based solely on word
>co-occurrence, without prior
>semantic knowledge. These topics are machine-generated, but
>often reveal a
>surprising coherence; for example, the “estate, tenant, law”
>topic above also
>includes “property, right, rent, lease, heir, inclosure” and
>so on. The topics
>below give a sense of some of the changing concerns in two
>subsets of the
>corpus:"
>
>"My own research as a Ph.D student at Brown focuses on the
>intertwining of
>technology with race, gender, and sexuality in contemporary
>African-American
>music and online discourse on sites like Twitter, Tumblr,
>Okayplayer and
>Rapgenius. While my subject is superficially quite different
>from Jo’s, I
>believe this tool will help me to condense the massive corpora
>of these online
>fora into more manageable forms. I am excited to see what
>other uses may emerge
>from this project once it is released to the broader
>community."


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This is why I hate academia.

So he's basically saying that the Lesson is NOT an Oasis of gender equality set adrift from a world gone mad. Congrats.

He presents the view he is trying to argue against here:

"Early discourse about the internet extolled its virtues as a postmodern utopia: people of all races, religions, genders, and sexual orientations could interact without the baggage of their offline identities."

And then attempts to prove that it's not true by analyzing the lesson.

It's a strawman's argument though....I think it'd be pretty hard to find someone who takes the above view to the extent that the author portrays and argues against. Surely, there is SOME truth to what he's arguing against.

Imagine if all the posters on OKP were to gather and interact in a public setting....face to face. We'd be much more likely to dismiss certain people's viewpoints based on stuff like gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, social class, the clothes they wear, the haircuts they have, how cool they are, etc. Internet social interaction certainly DOES allow for a more level playing field in many ways. Where else can a twelve year old white kid wearing jeans/tshirt debate about jazz music with a 40 year old black guy wearing a zoot suit?

But it doesn't mean that internet interaction is completely free from the 'baggage of our offline identities' and he's presented the argument in an extreme way that makes it easy to counter. Rendering it to be a pretty pointless essay imo.

I tend to think the central idea surrounds the relationship between the message-board structure and the ideas expressed within that structure, with misogyny and whatnot merely an example topic of conversation. I took this to be the thesis: "The structure of Okayplayer.com, like that of other online services, shapes the conversations that occur within it, just as those conversations owe heavily to (and occasionally influence) social structures and events in the outside world."

But re-reading it just now, it isn't especially clear.

it feeds into it JUST AS MUCH as world star hip hop does...but i digress

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But how is any of this controversial or essay-worthy?

Has anyone suggested that the Lesson, in relative comparison to normal 'real-life' interactions, is free from gender inequality?

I don't know....in my experience, the lesson is no more and no less sexist than any other social medium. So what.

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Did you get the full context of what he was working on via PM or are you noticing a shift in direction?
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as exemplified by the Lesson.

There definitely was not any gender warz angle to it as he pitched it to me.

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and i think that's my most meh part about this. i didn't respond to the inbox probably would have been more inclined (though don't know if i would) if it had mentioned the angle. but then the first time i read it, within that context, i thought hmmm he must have switched it up mid stream. which is also no bueno in my opinion. and this could just be the beginning of the broader study. i'm not necessarily against it happening if its done right all cards on the table.
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so he went a different direction that involved alotta b.s.in' and throwing thoughts together.

i wonder if he even got an A for this shit.

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