as far as i know he's not associated w/any of the hits that kicked off the trend, unless we're counting 'Yeah!' or som'n. and 'Calle Ocho' came out after the trend had started. so i didn't get how your claim could be made.
Not indicating him as the creator of the 'song' that started the 'trend'. Just saying that article specifically influenced the wave of producers that came after him.
3. "This should be interesting" In response to Reply # 0
I've said before that Dilla's supposed influence on a lot of these beat-gen/wonky/electro-ish cats is wildly exaggerated, tho. It just seems like an easy short-cut name drop for reviewers to throw out when the beat knocks, a sample is chopped, and there's some keyboarding-electroness thrown in. __ I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!
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11. "no i don't agree" In response to Reply # 3 Fri Jul-20-12 12:42 AM by astralblak
when it comes to FlyLo, Ras G, Shlomo, MatthewDavid, Teebs and the like, Dilla (and Lib's) influence can not be understated. from the tempos/moods they aim for, to the way they manipulate samples...
BUT with them as well, Timbo can not be understated. not only for his use of sounds like frogs and crying babies, but the way he quantized his drums. for as progressive as Tim's sound was, so much of that was in debt to his phrasing/spacing of sounds. that off kilter soulful melody, that Dilla was also a master of, is really where those kids drew from. shit they are all 22-27 (mostly in LA) they were absobing Tim's sound on popular urban radio in 98 as 8th graders/freshman
YET, when it comes to Lunice, Hudmo, and Flosstradamus i think this is were the Mannie / Lil John convo holds a lot of weight. Double_O pretty much captured why in that Dolphin_teef post
but I think imvcspl is getting at that the Lil' John article moved the convo/equipment from mpc's/sp's to cpu programs and keyboards; not necessarily the style of music that was spawned
9. "I think it was the fact that a lot of studios had it" In response to Reply # 7
moreso than one producer using it Neps and Timbaland were still on the ASR then
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12. "scratch mag was not that influential" In response to Reply # 0
nor was anything lil jon was doing.
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15. "GumDrops was trynna move this train." In response to Reply # 0
sayin lil jon is the main reason for all the oontz in hip hop
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