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"Larry Smith appreciation thread"


  

          

At first, I was gonna come with an agenda poll...like "Is Larry Smith a Top 5 Hip Hop Producer?" and then only give the option of "Yes." Or even saying "Larry Smith vs. Marley Marl"...but eff all that.

I think he has to be the most underappreciated producer in Rap history, solely because most folks don't even know his name, and he's never mentioned, even by older cats who always prop Marley Marl, Rick Rubin, and anyone else in the 80's.

He created beats 25+ years ago that are still some of my favorites in history. When I first heard "Five minutes of funk" and "Sucka MC's," I had NO idea that they came from the same cat.

Does anybody have any history on him? Any stories? Any ideas to why he's never mentioned?

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One Love is one of the greatest pieces of music I've ever heard
Jul 15th 2012
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I'm young, so I didn't know people did the dance to it like that til I
Jul 15th 2012
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RE: One Love is one of the greatest pieces of music I've ever heard
Jul 15th 2012
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Krush-Groove 1 forever nm
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RE: Krush-Groove 1 forever nm
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RE: Larry Smith appreciation thread
Jul 15th 2012
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RE: Larry Smith appreciation thread
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      RE: Larry Smith appreciation thread
Jul 16th 2012
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I support the hell outta this post
Jul 15th 2012
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"Rock Box" is still one of my five favorite hip-hop tracks ever
Jul 16th 2012
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badd cat, problem was timing
Jul 16th 2012
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he could've crossed over int pop easily if he wanted to
Jul 16th 2012
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RE: badd cat, problem was timing
Jul 16th 2012
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and Rick Rubin was given most of the credit
Jul 16th 2012
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      No, Rick Rubin got credit at the right time
Jul 16th 2012
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      King of Rock was a big record tho...
Jul 16th 2012
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      Not nearly as big as Raising Hell
Jul 16th 2012
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           king of rock put them in rotation on mtv...
Jul 16th 2012
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                So, in other words... not nearly as big as Raising Hell.
Jul 16th 2012
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      lol... ^^^^ johnny come lately wasnt there
Jul 16th 2012
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      I thought he did em all into I found out about Larry Smith
Jul 16th 2012
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RE: Larry Smith appreciation thread
Jul 16th 2012
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classic HIP-HOP producer
Jul 16th 2012
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Run mentions him on sucka mcs
Jul 16th 2012
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yeah, Larry had us youngsters (then) goin'
Jul 16th 2012
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i'm a ho is so ill
Jul 16th 2012
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I didn't even connect that Dre sampled this until like 10 years ago
Jul 16th 2012
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I appreciate!
Jul 16th 2012
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1. "One Love is one of the greatest pieces of music I've ever heard"
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and to this day it's my standard for non-sampled Hip Hop
I've been talking that Larry Smith shit since I got on this motherfucker, I love that guy and he's in my top 5 easily

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2. "I'm young, so I didn't know people did the dance to it like that til I"
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did a Wedding last year and they all asked for it. Yea, as old as those songs are, they still sound great to me.

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6. "RE: One Love is one of the greatest pieces of music I've ever heard"
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my feelings exactly...

i'm actually....

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ZooTown74
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3. "Krush-Groove 1 forever nm"
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7. "RE: Krush-Groove 1 forever nm"
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i'm partial to darryl and joe (krush groove 3)

btw

he was in the group orange krush (get it)

they made the ACTION classic break beat Kanye used on 'we major'

and if you really peep it

Sucker MCs is actually the ACTION break transferred to a DMX drum machine with claps added

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4. "RE: Larry Smith appreciation thread"
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Smooth grooves fo sho! I love his keyboard work!

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howardlloyd
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8. "RE: Larry Smith appreciation thread"
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alot of the keyboards on the whodini records were sesion players from LONDON.

larry was a bass player first and producer...but he did call in other musicians

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17. "RE: Larry Smith appreciation thread"
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>alot of the keyboards on the whodini records were sesion
>players from LONDON.
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>larry was a bass player first and producer...but he did call
>in other musicians

WOW! I thought he did all the music on those tracks.

Check out NEW Soul music at: www.myspace.com/starbeing

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Darryl Reeves-Mercury
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5. "I support the hell outta this post"
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for 5 Minutes, Escape, and Rock Box alone

  

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9. ""Rock Box" is still one of my five favorite hip-hop tracks ever"
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Dude had some serious, serious chops.

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10. "badd cat, problem was timing"
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he hit when hip hop was still fresh on radio and had he hit in the 90's and beyond he would easily be mentioned with Dr Dre,Erick Sermon, Rick Ruben,marle marl, and others.

heck he would be given the love that the rza and timberland have gotten because both those cats combined can't touch his grooves.

the timing of when he hit worked against him in alot of ways sad to say.

i loved Whodini they were my favorite Rap Group back in the day.

we use to dance and pop to those grooves back in the day.

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11. "he could've crossed over int pop easily if he wanted to"
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and he'd be more well known today, but I don't think that kind of thing interested him

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howardlloyd
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12. "RE: badd cat, problem was timing"
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he also pretty much refused to sample

so post 1987...he kinda disappeared

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13. "and Rick Rubin was given most of the credit"
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erroneously....

he did the biggest record... but not the best records (IMO)

and larry did the first two for dolo

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19. "No, Rick Rubin got credit at the right time"
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Run-D.M.C. and King of Rock were in no way huge records

Raising Hell was

Rubin co-produced the album that broke them huge (him and Russell)

And he (allegedly) was the one who came up with the idea of pairing them with Aerosmith

I know we want to praise Larry Smith for his great work, but we can still do that and not shit on Rubin at the same time

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20. "King of Rock was a big record tho..."
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real BIG

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21. "Not nearly as big as Raising Hell"
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I know we're reticent to give whitey credit sometimes, but that record broke huge

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23. "king of rock put them in rotation on mtv..."
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that was when they blew up....raising hell sent them into outer space..so to speak..

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24. "So, in other words... not nearly as big as Raising Hell."
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Thanks.

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25. "lol... ^^^^ johnny come lately wasnt there"
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king of rock wasnt a big record?? lol

sucker MCs, its like that, rock box etc etc from the 1st two albums were ALL big records

smfh

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22. "I thought he did em all into I found out about Larry Smith"
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he really is the most forgotten big hip-hop producer.

Marly Marl or Rick is known as the first big hip-hop producer they just overlook Larry smith.. dude don't even got a wikipedia last I look.

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14. "RE: Larry Smith appreciation thread"
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From a musician standpoint, you also gotta include his work on the first two Fat Boys albums as well.
Kurtis Blow produced the records (probably Buff too...I'm sure he came up with MAD ideas on those accapella joints),
but Orange Krush (Larry Smith and Davy DMX) were gettin' busy with the instruments on joints like "Jailhouse Rap" and "Can You Feel It?".

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15. "classic HIP-HOP producer"
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16. "Run mentions him on sucka mcs"
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havent heard him ever mention rick rubin tho

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18. "yeah, Larry had us youngsters (then) goin'"
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mad skills

  

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26. "i'm a ho is so ill"
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Dr. Dre pulled a mac miller back in 87

lol

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28. "I didn't even connect that Dre sampled this until like 10 years ago"
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27. "I appreciate!"
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I find it cool and impressive that dude could go from the most skeletal, raw drum-machine beats imaginable to really fleshed out (well, relatively) and funky shit like Whodini...

  

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