"is their still a stigma w hh producers who don't use physichal drum mach..." Tue May-22-12 05:39 PM by ABROCK33
..machines that they are inferior to those who do (from a technical and sonic results aspect)?
can prod who don't fux w drum machines and exclusivly produce ueing digital tools ever reach the same level as those who do?
i've been out the loop for a minute
I know 10 years ago it was a big deal
but it seems that its becoming more acceptable now
-------------------- "Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
-DJ R-Tistic- Member since Nov 06th 2008 51986 posts
Tue May-22-12 05:41 PM
1. "Crazy thing is....I never had anybody show me SHIT about producing" In response to Reply # 0
so I was on weak ass stock drums until 2001 when I realized that I could use samples and sampled drums....and for like 3-4 years, I actually had to got damn copy and paste my drums!!!!! I was never able to get the feel from playing them on a pad or keyboard, mainly because nobody ever showed me how to do that.
When I told people that I did it, first thing is they didn't believe me...but then they said "well....it doesn't feel stiff, so it's good enough." So I think that's the main thing....if it feels stiff as hell, which you hear on a lot of amateur production, then it'll be looked down on.
2. "lack of swing is a big prob " In response to Reply # 1 Tue May-22-12 05:46 PM by ABROCK33
usually it does feel stiff when cats dont "play"their drums is that what u are sayin is missin from the digi production?
-------------------- "Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
5. "I think by very nature it becomes stiffer almost by default..." In response to Reply # 0
Of course, it's perfectly possible in theory to make stuff "swing" and sound more "human" but it takes time and it is tedious whereas if you just knock out a beat on pads, the human touch comes immediately. It's easy to just get lazy and be "whatever" about it...
I know this from experience; I only worked with a sequencer and a sampler (not even a computer or keyboard) when I made (lame) beats in the 90's and it was a pain in the ass to make it sound the way I wanted it to sound in my head. The fine-adjustment is very boring, at least to me...
as long as the shit sounds dope, it shouldn't really matter. I learned how to use the mpc as well as FL, and they both knock the same.. *shrug* ________________________________
8. "seriously, how many people even *knew* it?" In response to Reply # 0
before YouTube and all that shit when you couldn't see people at work in the studio, nobody knew ( or cared ) how people made tracks. But once people ( who probably were too stubborn to learn new techniques ) started shitting on software, everybody piled on thinking that it made a difference in sound.
I've heard some REALLY dope shit made in Logic and other DAW's. It makes NO difference.
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