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revolution75
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"Anyone peep D'Angelo's GQ interview?"


  

          

Supposedly gives a good interview in the June issue
I haven't peeped yet...only heard quotes.
Kinda surprised okp's not on this considering the subject.

Eclectic Soul/Sunday, 2-4 PM est/89.3 WCSB.ORG

  

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no link, huh?
May 18th 2012
1
Hell naw man
May 18th 2012
2
      Nah more like Crushing Tranny row was a bad decision but
May 18th 2012
3
           Me too
May 18th 2012
4
Thanks for the heads up. I'll check it out.
May 18th 2012
5
RE: Anyone peep D'Angelo's GQ interview?
May 20th 2012
6
Good looks, bruh.
May 20th 2012
7
Gracias!
May 20th 2012
8
very good article
May 20th 2012
9
LMAO
May 20th 2012
13
Thank you very much sir !
May 20th 2012
10
I actually have not read the article myself
May 20th 2012
11
d <<<<<<<<<< zappa....lol
May 20th 2012
12
well again from what i seen and know
May 20th 2012
88
      okay. n/m
May 20th 2012
89
      yeah that is fine and dandy, however that turkey still ain' t got no son...
May 21st 2012
97
           WOOFWOOFWOOFWOOFWOOF!!!!
May 21st 2012
98
      Sounds like he's the wb frog and you're the promoter
May 21st 2012
106
      LOL
May 21st 2012
107
      i dont know if i want to hear dangelo as guitar god
May 21st 2012
109
      hey man.
May 21st 2012
114
      ROTFL....damn right I'm mad
May 21st 2012
118
           regardless of the setup of the industry
May 21st 2012
121
                i don't think he's uninspired
May 21st 2012
141
                     lol !!! we understand, bruh.
May 21st 2012
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                     please make sure those 8 make the album
May 21st 2012
152
                     RE: i don't think he's uninspired
May 21st 2012
159
                     I STRONGLY URGE...
May 28th 2012
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                     RE: i don't think he's uninspired
Nov 25th 2012
250
      the ADC Band, word ???? talk about an old school band name...
May 21st 2012
148
      Best believe bro... I chuckle every time I see him
May 21st 2012
150
      like on don king selling wolf tickets in here
May 21st 2012
175
      RE: well again from what i seen and know
May 21st 2012
137
      See here's the problem - gimmicks and image - not substance
May 22nd 2012
197
      D'angelo a guitar God - LOFL, I done heard it all know! LOFL
May 21st 2012
153
      Third night in Amsterdam he showed some of the guitar skills
May 23rd 2012
226
I laughed out loud at some parts.
May 20th 2012
14
i was getting the infamous xxl article vibe in some parts
May 20th 2012
16
hmmm...
May 20th 2012
17
Dude, i rolled my eyes so hard, and then dropped the magazine..
May 20th 2012
30
same here.
May 21st 2012
122
yeah the Untitled director talkin that 'what they don't understand' mess
May 21st 2012
154
      basically
May 29th 2012
244
yeah they did.
May 20th 2012
29
Thanks!
May 20th 2012
15
This nigga is STILL tryna say he's somehow connected to Marvin Gaye?
May 20th 2012
18
Seriously, I am not trying to hate
May 20th 2012
19
You're right.
May 20th 2012
20
Glad the Prince talk was kept below simmering level
May 20th 2012
21
      LOL
May 20th 2012
26
      Dude, before the week Voodoo was suppose to come out, i dreamed that he ...
May 20th 2012
33
           Dude, lol !
May 20th 2012
34
           RE: Dude, lol !
May 20th 2012
38
           LMAO and ROTFL
May 20th 2012
64
           this is in the books as one of the funniest replies I have ever read
May 21st 2012
119
Totally agree nm
May 23rd 2012
228
This nigga was in therapy over it????
May 20th 2012
65
this was great. thx for posting
May 20th 2012
32
Good stuff, thanks
May 20th 2012
42
tight posting
May 20th 2012
53
props
May 20th 2012
67
Thanks!
May 20th 2012
70
thanks
May 21st 2012
124
Preshiate it
May 21st 2012
125
LOL @ the throwing around of 'genius'.
May 21st 2012
132
Very Good Interview - learned some new things abt D'angelo
May 20th 2012
22
*side eye*
May 20th 2012
24
lmao I knew it..I just knew it
May 20th 2012
25
define "pure artist"
May 20th 2012
27
from my perspective I define a pure artist as someone who doesn't
May 20th 2012
31
      There are at least 700 African-American jazz musicians
May 20th 2012
35
           Chu'ch !!!!!!!!!!
May 20th 2012
39
           The funny thing is you actually think you make sound points but
May 20th 2012
43
           There's no market for jazz music? LOL
May 20th 2012
57
                interesting.....when confronted with the fact that
May 20th 2012
71
                     LOL way to misrepresent what was actually said.
May 20th 2012
72
                          should have found the truth on your hiatus....lol
May 20th 2012
74
                               and I asked you how many CDs/tickets you actually paid for
May 20th 2012
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                                    so then those artists aren't making a living???
May 20th 2012
82
                                         They aren't making a living primarily off the Internet
May 20th 2012
83
                                              wow...you are completely missing the point
May 20th 2012
84
                                                   LOL this is the exact same haterism you spewed last time
May 20th 2012
86
                                                        no hate at all
May 21st 2012
96
                                                             to be fair warren, US is not the musical center of the world
May 22nd 2012
196
                                                                  gilles has broken numerous new artists
May 22nd 2012
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                                                                       But like I told you before: Gilles is terrestrial.
May 22nd 2012
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                                                                       it was ignored because it's irrelevant to my point...
May 22nd 2012
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                                                                       It's relevant because you're talking about an 'Internet chitlin circuit'
May 22nd 2012
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                                                                       it is distinctly different if the the content is different...
May 22nd 2012
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                                                                       ?
May 26th 2012
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                                                                       content.....the content is different....yo..you lost this argument bruh
May 29th 2012
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                                                                       your language shows that you know you fucked up.
May 29th 2012
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                                                                       lol....
May 30th 2012
247
                                                                       EDIT: Actually... why bother.
May 30th 2012
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                                                                       great...most don't see any value in responding to something
May 30th 2012
249
           I love D, but this is on point^^
May 20th 2012
44
well, then that makes you a dumbass.
May 20th 2012
28
      no, it has nothing to do w/me, you idiot, it's his opinion...but I forgo...
May 20th 2012
36
      yep... ?uest is a celebrity, so anything he says must have merit!
May 20th 2012
40
           you are proven more and more to be a simple minded fucktard lol
May 20th 2012
45
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owlnRlmgvNw
May 20th 2012
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                RE: you are proven more and more to be a simple minded fucktard lol
May 20th 2012
47
                     RE: you are proven more and more to be a simple minded fucktard lol
May 20th 2012
50
                          Where are you running off to with those goal posts?
May 20th 2012
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                               there's no goal post moving, you just don't comprehend too well
May 20th 2012
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                                    Is my comprehension poor, or are you reading meanings into things
May 20th 2012
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                                         kap, it's bad enough you bother with WC, but fucking vee-lover?!??
May 21st 2012
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                                         *sigh*
May 21st 2012
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                                              lol...you're the bobby fisher on lesson hate...
May 22nd 2012
217
                                         well I'm glad Quest came in here and defended the statements
May 21st 2012
158
      I'm gonna have to agree with Af. I can't even take that Quest quote..
May 20th 2012
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           Lemme say it again: its easy to be uncompromising in your art
May 20th 2012
48
                D isn't uncompromising in his art, though... never has been.
May 20th 2012
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                just because you make some concessions w/your art doesn't
May 20th 2012
58
                     Read again.
May 20th 2012
59
                          I was gonna say, they took the "In Our Lifetime" album from Marvin..
May 20th 2012
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                          RE: Read again.
May 20th 2012
63
                Okay, what about Maxwell & Erykah Badu ?
May 20th 2012
52
                     ^^^^
May 20th 2012
56
                     I definitely think Erykah is amongst the purest of artists - Maxwell?
May 20th 2012
60
                          fair enough, i guess........lol !!! We'll agree to disagree. *daps*.
May 20th 2012
61
hahaha... yeah this is some bullshit. lol smh "Oxygen tank" ???
May 20th 2012
41
Questlove be slurping that juice ever heard of RObert S.Kelly?
May 20th 2012
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      WOOFWOOFWOOFWOOFWOOF!!!!
May 21st 2012
99
           sadly for D & fans his take is actually much closer to true than Quest's
May 21st 2012
156
                if the dude ain't got it in him then go to the church and sing there
May 22nd 2012
188
OKP Fight!
May 20th 2012
51
Nigga need to be on the Maury Povich show
May 20th 2012
23
On a sidenote, and *a sneak peek spoiler*....
May 20th 2012
54
Oh yeah... that was one of the things that made me LAUGH
May 21st 2012
120
Thoroughly enjoyed it, that's that dude!
May 20th 2012
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RE: Thoroughly enjoyed it, that's that dude!
May 20th 2012
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      RE: Thoroughly enjoyed it, that's that dude!
May 20th 2012
75
GQ truly has fallen off when they gotta dig the grave for interviews
May 20th 2012
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RE: GQ truly has fallen off when they gotta dig the grave for interviews
May 20th 2012
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waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa (c) maxxx
May 21st 2012
91
WOOFWOOFWOOFWOOFWOOF!!!!
May 21st 2012
100
lmao @ #6
May 21st 2012
115
LMAO at the 2pac line !
May 21st 2012
157
Actually, it's testament to how good D'angelo is.
May 21st 2012
160
this entire post makes no sense smh
May 21st 2012
162
the turkey choked that is the bottom line
May 21st 2012
172
      media still checkin for him like he the shit though..telling
May 21st 2012
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           a comeback story is always wanted and admired isn't it though?
May 21st 2012
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lolz
May 28th 2012
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pure artist my pinky toe, all in the system
May 20th 2012
80
waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa (c) maxxx
May 21st 2012
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man, come back couple days later and this shit explodes!
May 20th 2012
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tell Questlove that Blake Grffin was about to dunk to "brown sugar"
May 20th 2012
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*scratches head*
May 20th 2012
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most folks don't remember D'angelo
May 21st 2012
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      WOOFWOOFWOOFWOOFWOOF!!!!
May 21st 2012
102
      Old Man Outta touch.
May 21st 2012
104
           Blake Griffin ain't won no dunk contest with D angelo records
May 21st 2012
134
                Dut duh duh. Lets make dumb comparisons.
May 21st 2012
182
                     now that was funny if that turkey actual makes a record?
May 22nd 2012
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waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa (c) maxxx
May 21st 2012
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^Crazy old mutt, barking at the traffic WOOFWOOFWOOFWOOFWOOFWOOF !!!
May 21st 2012
101
great read. glad he's back
May 21st 2012
103
lol@thinking he was 'next to go. he needs to stop that fatalism.
May 21st 2012
105
he was wrong for leaving pregnant angie in the limo for vivica
May 21st 2012
108
Very wrong for that shit. I was quite disappointed with that.
May 21st 2012
140
RE: he was wrong for leaving pregnant angie in the limo for vivica
May 22nd 2012
198
D' threads make me feel psychic...
May 21st 2012
110
when will ppl realise that erykah was actually the real genius?
May 21st 2012
111
^^^underrated talk^^^
May 21st 2012
112
obv, i dont think d is a genius either
May 21st 2012
116
      I hear ya.
May 21st 2012
117
I agree with this wholeheartedly
May 21st 2012
113
so it seems that the meta-narrative w/D is
May 21st 2012
123
D'Angelo is the Lebron James of.....nahhhhhh I won't go there lmao
May 21st 2012
126
      I was about to type that and backspaced for real... LMAO
May 21st 2012
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      At least Lebron gets his ass on the court and displays his talents
May 21st 2012
128
      D'Angelo is the Vince Carter there I fixed it
May 21st 2012
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           ^^^indeed accurate
May 21st 2012
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           Yeah that's about right.
May 21st 2012
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Does anyone have the xxl article?
May 21st 2012
129
I'm sure I have it in my archives.
May 21st 2012
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      Thanks bro
May 21st 2012
131
I think what 15 meant by pure artist is that...
May 21st 2012
133
Hey 15 what do you mean "pure artist", or was that being sarcastic
May 21st 2012
155
R.Kelly is a Pure Artist and I tell Queslove that to his face
May 21st 2012
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Fear of hype and yet with every year more hype
May 21st 2012
136
Great article but...
May 21st 2012
138
      I KNOW WHO YOU ARE NOW!!!
May 21st 2012
139
      Oh really ? speak on it lol !!!
May 21st 2012
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      on topic though
May 21st 2012
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      I said that before and will say it again
May 21st 2012
145
      ^all of this, and more^ speak Rev !!!!
May 21st 2012
146
      maxwell still sells. he can make a good living touring
May 22nd 2012
191
      Yeah...how is this dude making $ and...
May 21st 2012
144
           Rahsaan, anyone ? MCA dropped him like a bad habit.............
May 21st 2012
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Check this Quest and give it to your boy D
May 21st 2012
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D'Angelo feature - XXL #3, 1998
May 21st 2012
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Ain't nothing changed
May 21st 2012
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      Mofos been claiming that I was lying
May 21st 2012
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           Thanks for putting it up
May 21st 2012
166
           so what, you know for a fact that he can't play those instruments?
May 21st 2012
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                Say whaaaaaa b/w c'mon son
May 21st 2012
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                Thanks for calling bullshit before me
May 21st 2012
171
                     the thought of a miles' blindfold test on that...
May 21st 2012
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                     LMAO!!
May 21st 2012
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                     Uh I guess I should've clarified that when Aretha debuted on Columbia
May 22nd 2012
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                Incorrect.
May 21st 2012
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                turkey still ain't got no new songs
May 21st 2012
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                     waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa (c) maxxx
May 21st 2012
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Has anyone seen the female reaction to his "return" ??
May 21st 2012
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Briam Mcknight got more chicks talking that Mumblo
May 21st 2012
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Jameeka doe? LMAO
May 21st 2012
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That was an actual convo
May 21st 2012
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      damn...
May 22nd 2012
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lol... not sure what that means....
May 21st 2012
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that means that the turkey is only remembered as a stripper
May 22nd 2012
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      ^^ dead on it^^
May 22nd 2012
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      chicken heads don't make the world go round...
May 22nd 2012
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           Well WC
May 22nd 2012
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           RE: Well WC
May 22nd 2012
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                Ain't got nuthin to do with me or u
May 22nd 2012
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                     yo..you're way over thinking this...
May 22nd 2012
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           WC Kellz got songs as long as you type words beleive that
May 22nd 2012
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                Kellz being a pedophile should mean you should avoid speaking
May 22nd 2012
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                     typicla hater can't talk about no music because well Kellz
May 22nd 2012
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the female reaction will always be that
May 22nd 2012
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      RE: the female reaction will always be that
May 22nd 2012
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I just came in here to say...
May 22nd 2012
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which label(s) paid for the recording of the dozens of new songs?
May 22nd 2012
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Im wondering too
May 22nd 2012
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*check names/post counts of people who think d is overrated...
May 22nd 2012
205
ADC Band.
May 22nd 2012
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      Imma go look for Larry's ass
May 22nd 2012
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           LMAO
May 22nd 2012
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           fool, you got my crying over here LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh lawd..........
May 22nd 2012
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GQ just put up video of D playin' guitar (LINK)
May 22nd 2012
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David Allen Grier on in living color on guitar>>>>>>>>>>>D'angelo
May 22nd 2012
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BTW, that Madonna thing was the funniest thing in that article
May 22nd 2012
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i'm sure P was not bothered lol !!!
May 23rd 2012
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they tried it.
May 23rd 2012
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      Didn't She Scoff @ Him When He Wanted Her To Play In UTCM?
May 23rd 2012
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      that sounds familiar.
May 23rd 2012
230
      He wanted her for Graffiti Bridge
May 23rd 2012
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      "He reeked of lavender, it turned me on, actually" *howls*
May 26th 2012
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           i don't fully understand that man's hold on women.
May 26th 2012
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too much religion mumbojumbo
May 23rd 2012
229
Interview outtakes:
May 25th 2012
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Thanks for posting this
May 25th 2012
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way more interesting than the entire article n/m
May 25th 2012
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co-sign. now, this should've been the article.
May 25th 2012
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that was cool but still didnt tell us that much new
May 26th 2012
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nice.
May 26th 2012
239
Wicked, thanks !
May 28th 2012
242

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1. "no link, huh?"
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fuck you.

  

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2. "Hell naw man"
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They talking about it on the org but no one has put it up yet
I thought one of the okp fans would have been all over this
It's surprisingly quiet

So far I know he talks about the million dollar deal Clive pulledafter the wreck
Irving Azoff paying out his own pocket for rehab
He sobered up after Dilla passed
The crushing the streets for ho's was chalked up to a bad decision...whatever the fuck that means..lol

Eclectic Soul/Sunday, 2-4 PM est/89.3 WCSB.ORG

  

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3. "Nah more like Crushing Tranny row was a bad decision but"
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Fri May-18-12 10:49 AM by Artful Dodger

          

I'm happy to see he's slowly but surely coming out of the woodworks.

After that Testament nonsense I think OKpers are just waiting on the album.

Hopefully we will see more of him and things will start rolling.

that's a good sign.

  

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4. "Me too "
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There's supposedly a quote from an org-er who stressed the concern that it will be 2000 all over again and he says his mind is in the right place.

As far as the record there's speculation that the label wants it by September so that it will be considered for the Grammies but who gives a fuck about a god damn Grammy!!

And LOL at the tranny comment!!

Eclectic Soul/Sunday, 2-4 PM est/89.3 WCSB.ORG

  

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5. "Thanks for the heads up. I'll check it out. "
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D'ANGELO beat tape PART 2: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/album/dangelo-beat-tape-2020

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6. "RE: Anyone peep D'Angelo's GQ interview?"
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7. "Good looks, bruh."
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Since 1976

  

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9. "very good article "
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don't know what it will take for this dude to wake the fuck up
ya know its bad news when janice g calls him out on his shit lol
does he need another marvin dream to tell him to release this record?
how about the ghost of rick james to slap the shit out of him?

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>ya know its bad news when janice g calls him out on his shit
>lol
>does he need another marvin dream to tell him to release this
>record?
>how about the ghost of rick james to slap the shit out of him?

  

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What the blood claaat ???

  

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11. "I actually have not read the article myself"
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but I did skim a few lines and paragraphs while I was scanning it. So those of you who *have* read it... Did they actually uncritically print ?uest's quote about D playing guitar like Zappa?

Or did they at least question that in the section where they apparently described some of the European shows?

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12. "d <<<<<<<<<< zappa....lol"
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.........Questlove who compares D to Frank Zappa

"He can play the shit out of it and I dont mean no Lil Wayne shit."

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88. "well again from what i seen and know"
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this guitar revelation has him up in arms.
maybe the zappa comparisons are blasphemy in the eyes of most.
but the first night of recordings i snuck in the room of him practicing
and watched him do "maggot brain" note for note.
(he can also do 1983/Merman too)

but when it came to europe he *kanye shrug* held back.

that was my only "WTF!!!??!?" moment, like why aren't you showing mofos that maverick shit i seen.


my only guess is playing guitar is his new "2000 untitled body" and just like having the perfect physique destroyed him and backfired. i feel like he is fighting his guitar god knowledge tooth and nail.

like i know it sounds funny and I'm not doing this on some "ahhh he making me look bad and shit!"/boy who called wolf scenario....

but him playing guitar the way he was in europe was some psychological shit i can't explain yo.


i went through that shit....member my initial weight loss of 2001? a year into that shit in which you are so not ready for the mindfuck shock of what comes your way (especially when you are in the rock star lane...) that shit is scary. i literally was like "dude i wanna be fat again"---like i did not know how to handle free gucci suits not tailor made, and upgrading women to levels y'all would not believe.---i wasn't mentally prepared for the transformation and in fear of it makes you wanna go back to what you know.

thats like chicks who stay with abusive dudes.

this is a dude who did NOTHING but practice guitar 10 years straight.

i know what i saw. HE don't know what i saw.

cause once i called him out on it he was literally getting mad like i violated.


I'm like dude share your gift! you are the new black guitar god.


he doesn't want it.


he literally talked himself out of that solo on SDMF in holland. i was mad as shit.

i know what i know.

dude was showing y'all 15% of his power.


he is a guitar god yo. he just don't know how to deal.


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89. "okay. n/m"
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97. "yeah that is fine and dandy, however that turkey still ain' t got no son..."
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and this is going on how many years now?

nect you gonna hear stories of D'angelo channeling Michael J Fox and he can really go black to the Future??

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98. "WOOFWOOFWOOFWOOFWOOF!!!!"
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What the blood claaat ???

  

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106. "Sounds like he's the wb frog and you're the promoter"
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Serously...Who in the fuck holds back from playing the guitar?

And any old school cat can play maggot brain note for note bro
This ex crackhead/bum I know who swears up and down he was in the ADC band claims he can. LOL

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107. "LOL"
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>And any old school cat can play maggot brain note for note
>bro
>This ex crackhead/bum I know who swears up and down he was in
>the ADC band claims he can. LOL

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109. "i dont know if i want to hear dangelo as guitar god"
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was there meant to be an eddie van halen-type solo in the middle of when we get by? ive not heard all the new songs but dangelos playing sounded either a bit scrappy or a bit on the corny 'funk-rocking out' side.

if he really is on some 'i dont want the attention' thing, and is holding back because of that, maybe he needs to find a new therapist. i cant think of one musician who doesnt want to show what they can do, even the shy ones. musicians who dont like what they CANT do, yeah, but not those purposely holding back, unless its just for the benefit of the material.

my gut feeling is just that as good a musician as he is, dangelo isnt the virtuoso he was made out to be. i feel sorry for the guy. victim of the hype machine.

  

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114. "hey man."
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i get it.

you invested in him. and he robbed you. he literally robbed you like the 3 leg dude in a relay race who drops baton. all he had to do was carry baton.

i aint coming here defending him and shit. I'm just telling you i know what i saw.

yeah, I'm mad as shit I'm sounding like michael jackson tryna convince his brothers he saw mommy kissing santa claus. or crying wolf.

im not mad at y'all.

he robbed y'all of memories and years.

bash away.

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118. "ROTFL....damn right I'm mad "
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It's all in fun holmes
(kinda)
I'm mad at my generation for dropping the ball
They had the chance to change the direction in music and culture
And frigging BLEW it!!!



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121. "regardless of the setup of the industry"
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and how it prob isnt that kind to artists who dont easily fit...

i think the basic answer is more that dangelo, lauryn, etc, they just got uninspired

the movement that gave them so much momentum, ie hip hop culture, basically died, and without that, they no longer had the rudder they needed

and then they fell off

obv the way hip hop died meant that artists like them were less welcome but i think equally, or more than that, its that they just didnt have much to inspire them anymore, nothing 'real' or 'current' that they could feed off

  

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141. "i don't think he's uninspired"
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im not goin out my mind cause them 50 songs they talking about? i heard em. friggin 8 of em are fucki---

man i can't do this no more.

you know the drill.

NO! LIST
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"Food Glorious Food"
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149. "lol !!! we understand, bruh."
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>im not goin out my mind cause them 50 songs they talking
>about? i heard em. friggin 8 of em are fucki---
>
>man i can't do this no more.
>
>you know the drill.


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152. "please make sure those 8 make the album"
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thanks in advance

  

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159. "RE: i don't think he's uninspired"
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Haha, watch not one of them end up on the album though. A bit of a shame that he's going to limit the album to just 12 songs or so roughly though instead of going all out with a double album or something fly as a mutha. Is it pretty safe to assume that if a song doesn't end up on the album, we ain't gonna hear it until a decade later?

  

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241. "I STRONGLY URGE..."
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... D to include "Another Life" on the upcoming album. If that song is missing from the tracklisting- THAT will be blasphemy.

Over the guitar issue, people need to get the hell over themselves and the issue. As long as the brotha is making good quality music... fall back. I would love to see all these "critics" have every aspect of their lives picked apart and analyzed to death. Music fans can be unreal sometimes.

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250. "RE: i don't think he's uninspired"
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>im not goin out my mind cause them 50 songs they talking
>about? i heard em. friggin 8 of em are fucki---
>
>man i can't do this no more.
>
>you know the drill.

Yo Quest,

Since this post, we've heard about 5 new songs being Charade, Ain't that easy, Anoher life, Sugah daddy and Really love. To put things in perspective, when you say 8 songs are fucking amazing (assuming that's what you wanted to say), were you refering to some of those tracks? Or is that something we've yet to hear?

Obviously trying to manage expectations for whatever's coming...

  

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148. "the ADC Band, word ???? talk about an old school band name..."
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>Serously...Who in the fuck holds back from playing the
>guitar?
>
>And any old school cat can play maggot brain note for note
>bro
>This ex crackhead/bum I know who swears up and down he was in
>the ADC band claims he can. LOL
>

.......i haven't heard in years lol !!!

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150. "Best believe bro... I chuckle every time I see him"
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He has missing teeth so maybe he means the abc band LOL

Real talk every black guitar player coming up had to know maggot brain
That's how Mike Hampton got his gig at 16
It ain't no big thing knowing that song
If he can do Blackbyrd's "quickie" solo then he's saying something

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175. "like on don king selling wolf tickets in here"
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D'angelo about as deep on Guitar as Eddie Murphy is. "i was a King" if a turkey could play "Maggot Brain" it still wouldn't blow folks away as the thought of him actually making a memroable song and album how about that?

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137. "RE: well again from what i seen and know"
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Yeah man..the genius cats tend to have either that Kanye boldness or that Marvin shyness. There's no real middle ground. But once D gets into that zone and black out..he's gonna shock a lot of cats (and I'm looking forward to it). One of my closest friends "B'Nai"..(who used to play with Martin Luther and currently plays with The Coup) is the exact same way. I'm already knowing what D can do..(and have yet to really hear him get down on the axe), and he got some tricks up his sleeve. He was shaking off the rust in Europe and he's gonna bring it..on D's time; not ours.

If you can Questo, try to convince D to go full-on Eddie Hazel and run a straightening comb through his wig. I saw shades of Eddie Hazel with his get-up and it looked dope! Either that, or go Rick James with the braids (circa Bustin Out era). And if he goes all out with the make-up and eyeliner in the States (sorta like he did in Europe), don't bash him America; especially you grown and sexy folks over here. It's a funk thing and that's what he's on. Free your mind and (you know the rest..)

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197. "See here's the problem - gimmicks and image - not substance"
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"If you can Questo, try to convince D to go full-on Eddie Hazel and run a straightening comb through his wig. I saw shades of Eddie Hazel with his get-up and it looked dope! Either that, or go Rick James with the braids (circa Bustin Out era). And if he goes all out with the make-up and eyeliner in the States (sorta like he did in Europe), don't bash him America; especially you grown and sexy folks over here. It's a funk thing and that's what he's on. Free your mind and (you know the rest..)"

  

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153. "D'angelo a guitar God - LOFL, I done heard it all know! LOFL"
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226. "Third night in Amsterdam he showed some of the guitar skills"
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I don't care what anybody on here (who wasn't there and might've seen some YouTube clips) says. He did show some of it when he went into a zone w/ Jesse. Only the third night though.

  

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14. "I laughed out loud at some parts."
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particularly the whole business around "Untitled" and how it was supposed to be about "home cookin'".

>but I did skim a few lines and paragraphs while I was
>scanning it. So those of you who *have* read it... Did they
>actually uncritically print ?uest's quote about D playing
>guitar like Zappa?

yes they did.

>Or did they at least question that in the section where they
>apparently described some of the European shows?

no, they did not. they didn't even mention it at all.

reading this I got the impression of "the legend of D'Angelo" being rebuilt. not too much we haven't heard before, but some of it is actually funny.

interesting sidebar about the (comparatively) lack of success Neo-Soul had. Interesting because they basically acknowledged Maxwell and Badu "won", Lauryn lost, and ....Common was considered part of the fold.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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16. "i was getting the infamous xxl article vibe in some parts"
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His whole religion/church/marvin thing always leaves me with a c'mon son feeling

I found the Chris Rock quote about him and the rest of my generation's losers quite amusing.

sad but true.






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17. "hmmm..."
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>particularly the whole business around "Untitled" and how it
>was supposed to be about "home cookin'".

LOL between this and revolution75's comment about Chris Rock's quote, I gotta read this later today!

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30. "Dude, i rolled my eyes so hard, and then dropped the magazine.."
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>particularly the whole business around "Untitled" and how it
>was supposed to be about "home cookin'".

......on my table and had a good laugh.


>
>reading this I got the impression of "the legend of D'Angelo"
>being rebuilt. not too much we haven't heard before, but some
>of it is actually funny.
>
>interesting sidebar about the (comparatively) lack of success
>Neo-Soul had. Interesting because they basically acknowledged
>Maxwell and Badu "won", Lauryn lost, and ....Common was
>considered part of the fold.
>
>

Right.


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122. "same here."
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fuck you.

  

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154. "yeah the Untitled director talkin that 'what they don't understand' mess"
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well, maybe the reason the minions 'don't understand' is that nothing in that song's lyrics even remotely suggest collard greens nor does the decidedly 'P90X>>>Sweet Potatoes' semi-nude close-up come-ons of the visuals he prodided?

Now, maybe evoking that thought in D's mind was the way you were able to bring about that performance on camera but please, don't blame us for missing something that was never hinted at on record or film.

  

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244. "basically"
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>
>Now, maybe evoking that thought in D's mind was the way you
>were able to bring about that performance on camera but
>please, don't blame us for missing something that was never
>hinted at on record or film.


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29. "yeah they did. "
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>but I did skim a few lines and paragraphs while I was
>scanning it. So those of you who *have* read it... Did they
>actually uncritically print ?uest's quote about D playing
>guitar like Zappa?
>
>Or did they at least question that in the section where they
>apparently described some of the European shows?
>
>

Uncritically. Did question the quote, whatsoever. I'm kinda scared for D, now that the quite is in print. *underpressure*.


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18. " This nigga is STILL tryna say he's somehow connected to Marvin Gaye?"
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but I am extremely concerned about all this renewed D myth-making... Like, who decided that his entire career was going to be about building a legend around him that he will probably never live up to?

Dude should just make music and let it speak for itself.... because up to this point, too much of the D'Angelo legend has been based on words and wishes.

Instead of us comparing him to Zappa, the lesson he needs to take from Zappa is http://bit.ly/L8pGCZ

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D should focus on being D...not Marvin or Prince.

  

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21. "Glad the Prince talk was kept below simmering level"
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He's mentioned but she didn't go THERE

And has someone told D we ALL have dreams about our idols??

I dreamed I was at a Chuck Brown show and he shouted me out
I'm packing my bags and moving to DC dammit cuz I'm the next in line
GTFOH!!!

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33. "Dude, before the week Voodoo was suppose to come out, i dreamed that he ..."
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>He's mentioned but she didn't go THERE
>
>And has someone told D we ALL have dreams about our idols??
>
>I dreamed I was at a Chuck Brown show and he shouted me out
>I'm packing my bags and moving to DC dammit cuz I'm the next
>in line
>GTFOH!!!
>
>

.......that he was in this white rundown house, and the window was opened. And i heard this music, and ended up climbing up a ladder, that led to the window where i kept hearing the groove of "Africa" being played in a loop. Once i climbed in the window, i saw dude sitting indian style on the floor, and there was all this recording equipment. And he looked up, as i was coming through the window. I was,like yo'D !!!! And he just smiled. And i remember asking,"why is it taking you so long to drop this album, man". And he just smiled and said, you want to hear some of it ? I was like,"hell yes", that's when my ass woke up. I was pissed, too. lol !!! I guess i was so hyped for this album, that i was possessed by it, before i held a copy in my hand. Crazy shit.


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34. "Dude, lol !"
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What the blood claaat ???

  

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38. "RE: Dude, lol !"
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I know,the shit was wild lol !! I laugh about that dream, till this day.


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largely because I can see D'Angelo doing that shit

  

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228. "Totally agree nm"
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>but I am extremely concerned about all this renewed D
>myth-making... Like, who decided that his entire career was
>going to be about building a legend around him that he will
>probably never live up to?
>
>Dude should just make music and let it speak for itself....
>because up to this point, too much of the D'Angelo legend has
>been based on words and wishes.
>
>Instead of us comparing him to Zappa, the lesson he needs to
>take from Zappa is http://bit.ly/L8pGCZ

  

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65. "This nigga was in therapy over it????"
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Just the thought had me busting out laughing

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That was a good read.

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132. "LOL @ the throwing around of 'genius'."
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c'mon, ppl.

stop it.

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22. "Very Good Interview - learned some new things abt D'angelo"
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Few things that caught my attention:


-Reading the article reminded me of how his label was trying to mold him into this modern day R&B sex symbol so much so that they dissed Angie Stone because she didn't "fit" the ideal image of what someone like him was supposed to be with

-I've read and heard others draw the parallel btw he and Marvin Gaye and I knew D'angelo has always felt this bizarre kinship to Marvin beyond just music but never read or heard it went so deep that his mother had to take him to see a therapist because of it

-Funny he once had to check Madonna for being rude

-That mofo ballooned up 300 lbs!!!!!!

-Never knew that some music's heavyweights (Eric Clapton and George Clinton to name a few) felt that way abt his music

and lastly, Questlove's quote abt what he said to D'angelo abt depriving listeners of his gift sums it up for many ppl waiting for another cd and have done so patiently for *11 years* and counting...

"This eleven year" freeze must end, not just for the artist's sake, but for the culture's. "I've told him: He is literally holding the oxygen supply that music lovers breathe." At first, it was cute - 'Oh, he's bashful.' But now he's, like, selfish. I'm like, look dude, we're starving.' When D starts singing, all is right with the world."


And Questlove stating that he doesn't mind being on "D-time" because as he said he feels "D'angelo is literally "the last pure african-american artist left" stood out for me as well.

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24. "*side eye*"
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>And Questlove stating that he doesn't mind being on "D-time"
>because as he said he feels "D'angelo is literally "the last
>pure african-american artist left" stood out for me as well.

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25. "lmao I knew it..I just knew it"
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hey, that's Questo's opinion and he's entitled to it - I certainly would take his opinion on music and artists before yours...just saying

and it ain't like theirs a lot of "pure artists" these days anyway irrespective of race


>>And Questlove stating that he doesn't mind being on
>"D-time"
>>because as he said he feels "D'angelo is literally "the last
>>pure african-american artist left" stood out for me as well.
>

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27. "define "pure artist""
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>hey, that's Questo's opinion and he's entitled to it - I
>certainly would take his opinion on music and artists before
>yours...just saying
>
>and it ain't like theirs a lot of "pure artists" these days
>anyway irrespective of race
>
>
>>>And Questlove stating that he doesn't mind being on
>>"D-time"
>>>because as he said he feels "D'angelo is literally "the
>last
>>>pure african-american artist left" stood out for me as
>well.
>>
>

  

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31. "from my perspective I define a pure artist as someone who doesn't"
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give in to the whims of popular culture when it comes to their art. Today's artist tend to gravitate towards whatever trend is hot and many of them don't use music as a means for self expression but as a route to material gains.

As this pertains to D'angelo, this was something the article briefly touched on concerning 'VooDoo.' Many fans and music insiders felt his follow up to 'Brown Sugar' was way overdue for someone who had such a successful debut but he released it when he was ready...and wasn't swayed by ppl clamoring for a quick album release.



>>hey, that's Questo's opinion and he's entitled to it - I
>>certainly would take his opinion on music and artists before
>>yours...just saying
>>
>>and it ain't like theirs a lot of "pure artists" these days
>>anyway irrespective of race
>>
>>
>>>>And Questlove stating that he doesn't mind being on
>>>"D-time"
>>>>because as he said he feels "D'angelo is literally "the
>>last
>>>>pure african-american artist left" stood out for me as
>>well.
>>>
>>
>

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35. "There are at least 700 African-American jazz musicians"
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working today who are "purer" artists than D'Angelo... even using your definition (which I find problematic to begin with)

There are loads of African-American independent R&B and soul musicians, rock musicians... there are musicians without record deals who play live every night... there are folk musicians...

But D'Angelo--a guy who has barely played music at all in over a decade--is the only pure African American artist?

LOL I swear... some people will swallow anything, as long as someone "hip" and "famous" says it. Which, like I said, is part of the problem. People don't even care about "pure" art... they care about following "hip" celebrities.

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39. "Chu'ch !!!!!!!!!!"
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>working today who are "purer" artists than D'Angelo... even
>using your definition (which I find problematic to begin
>with)
>
>There are loads of African-American independent R&B and soul
>musicians, rock musicians... there are musicians without
>record deals who play live every night... there are folk
>musicians...
>
>But D'Angelo--a guy who has barely played music at all in over
>a decade--is the only pure African American artist?
>
>LOL I swear... some people will swallow anything, as long as
>someone "hip" and "famous" says it. Which, like I said, is
>part of the problem. People don't even care about "pure"
>art... they care about following "hip" celebrities.


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43. "The funny thing is you actually think you make sound points but"
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in actuality you invariably miss the point and end up sounding more stupid than you really are...


>working today who are "purer" artists than D'Angelo... even
>using your definition (which I find problematic to begin
>with)
>
>There are loads of African-American independent R&B and soul
>musicians, rock musicians... there are musicians without
>record deals who play live every night... there are folk
>musicians...

I mean seriously?!?! did you think you were actually making a good point pertaining to this topic when you typed it??

let explain to you why that is: jazz artists can afford to be "pure" w/their art because there's no market demand for jazz music, therefore, unlike r&B and HipHop artists, jazz artists can make music freely w/o label execs trying to micro manage their music output because jazz doesn't mean much if anything to their bottom line.

And as far as independent artists, the fact that they're independent allows them to be 'free' sort of speak when it comes to their music LOL. To be a pure artist when you're D'angelo means a lot more when when you factor in the fact that he's on a major label who have demands and millions of dollars riding on his success (or failure).
>
>But D'Angelo--a guy who has barely played music at all in over
>a decade--is the only pure African American artist?

that's what he said...
>
>LOL I swear... some people will swallow anything, as long as
>someone "hip" and "famous" says it. Which, like I said, is
>part of the problem. People don't even care about "pure"
>art... they care about following "hip" celebrities.

this has nothing to do, you idiot, w/Quest being 'famous' lol...I accept his opinion abt what he said in reference to D'angelo because I've heard him on numerous occassions speaking abt music related topics and he always provides a unique and insightful perspective to the subject at hand.

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57. "There's no market for jazz music? LOL"
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>let explain to you why that is: jazz artists can afford to be
>"pure" w/their art because there's no market demand for jazz
>music, therefore, unlike r&B and HipHop artists, jazz artists
>can make music freely w/o label execs trying to micro manage
>their music output because jazz doesn't mean much if anything
>to their bottom line.

I guess I better go give that news to the many, many musicians who make a (good!) living playing jazz, and to the jazz-oriented labels like GRP and Verve that have managed to sustain themselves longer than most here today/gone tomorrow "urban" labels.

>And as far as independent artists, the fact that they're
>independent allows them to be 'free' sort of speak when it
>comes to their music LOL. To be a pure artist when you're
>D'angelo means a lot more when when you factor in the fact
>that he's on a major label who have demands and millions of
>dollars riding on his success (or failure).

When was the last time he released music on a major label, though?

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many non-mainstream Soul/Funk/R&B artists were making a decent living utilizing avenues other than mainstream .....you dismissed that idea....

yet there are Black Jazz artists still making it on the grind???

come on man..

  

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72. "LOL way to misrepresent what was actually said."
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>many non-mainstream Soul/Funk/R&B artists were making a
>decent living utilizing avenues other than mainstream .....you
>dismissed that idea....

I never dismissed the idea that there was life outside the mainstream for Black artists... I dismissed the naivete of purporting that there existed an "Internet chitlin circuit" that could sustain careers without these Internet listeners actually buying records and/or concert tickets.

>yet there are Black Jazz artists still making it on the
>grind???

uh... yes. there are.

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74. "should have found the truth on your hiatus....lol"
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>>many non-mainstream Soul/Funk/R&B artists were making a
>>decent living utilizing avenues other than mainstream
>.....you
>>dismissed that idea....
>
>I never dismissed the idea that there was life outside the
>mainstream for Black artists... I dismissed the naivete of
>purporting that there existed an "Internet chitlin circuit"
>that could sustain careers without these Internet listeners
>actually buying records and/or concert tickets.
>

I used the term internet chittlin circuit to describe a marketing strategy that was sustaining artists outside of the mainstream current norms. I described the purpose of the internet chittlin circuit as being away for those artists to be heard and market the product outside of the narrowed down mainstream...for the purposes of getting their music heard...ie. going to concerts and buying records.

nobody ever said that the marketing technique described was a direct means for revenue....but an alternative route in a climate where only certain types of "artists" are availed mainstream marketing opportunities.


bottom line is that there are tons of artists making soul, funk, R&B and jazz who are making really solid music and making a decent living using other than mainstream avenues to promote their work.

You argued against that concept previously yet now you embrace it to try and diss D'Angelo.... lol..

song remains the same player.



>>yet there are Black Jazz artists still making it on the
>>grind???
>
>uh... yes. there are.

right...I been told you so...lol.

  

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76. "and I asked you how many CDs/tickets you actually paid for"
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>I used the term internet chittlin circuit to describe a
>marketing strategy that was sustaining artists outside of the
>mainstream current norms. I described the purpose of the
>internet chittlin circuit as being away for those artists to
>be heard and market the product outside of the narrowed down
>mainstream...for the purposes of getting their music
>heard...ie. going to concerts and buying records.

You couldn't tell me how many dollars you actually contributed to supporting these artists' careers, but ventured that you supported them by "spreading the word." And I asked you how many people like you thought they were actually supporting the artist by "spreading the word" and how does that help the artist who actually has to SELL to survive?

And your notion that I suggested there was no life outside the mainstream is ridiculous because (and I pointed this out even back then): I myself run a non-mainstream music business that was grown via Internet buzz, but has succeeded only because *my audience actually buys my shit*! However--and if I recall, this was essentially my thesis statement--that "Internet buzz" on its own is pretty worthless unless real dollars are being invested into supporting the artists, and way too many people think that circulating links equals actual support.

>bottom line is that there are tons of artists making soul,
>funk, R&B and jazz who are making really solid music and
>making a decent living using other than mainstream avenues to
>promote their work.
>
>You argued against that concept previously yet now you embrace
>it to try and diss D'Angelo.... lol..

I never argued against that concept and I didn't use it to diss D'Angelo either. I ridiculed vee-lover's (false) claim that there is no market for jazz. But I guess anybody who disagrees with a D'Angelo stan on *any* subject is automatically dissing D'Angelo smh

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82. "so then those artists aren't making a living???"
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>>I used the term internet chittlin circuit to describe a
>>marketing strategy that was sustaining artists outside of
>the
>>mainstream current norms. I described the purpose of the
>>internet chittlin circuit as being away for those artists to
>>be heard and market the product outside of the narrowed down
>>mainstream...for the purposes of getting their music
>>heard...ie. going to concerts and buying records.
>
>You couldn't tell me how many dollars you actually contributed
>to supporting these artists' careers, but ventured that you
>supported them by "spreading the word." And I asked you how
>many people like you thought they were actually supporting the
>artist by "spreading the word" and how does that help the
>artist who actually has to SELL to survive?


So all of these artists like Rahsaan Patterson or SBTRKT or Amp Fiddler or Jose James or even classic artists like LJ Reynolds.... all those type of people are sustaining themselves without utilizing the mainstream US radio/tv or marketing means.

They are making dollars some kind of way...they are selling records...selling tickets to shows....

it's working for them...maybe it could be workig better..but they are still in the game grinding for themselves even the the industry has drasticlly changed...

you are trying to say that there are plenty of authentic jazz artists out there still making a living ...well bruh...this is how many of them are making it....Jose James, Mario Biondi, now Gregory Porter....they are all a part of what I was saying in that post.

I spend plenty on music....and fortunately for me there are places to find the music I enjoy outside of your standard current mainstream avenues....




>
>And your notion that I suggested there was no life outside the
>mainstream is ridiculous because (and I pointed this out even
>back then): I myself run a non-mainstream music business that
>was grown via Internet buzz, but has succeeded only because
>*my audience actually buys my shit*! However--and if I recall,
>this was essentially my thesis statement--that "Internet buzz"
>on its own is pretty worthless unless real dollars are being
>invested into supporting the artists, and way too many people
>think that circulating links equals actual support.

so again..all of those people I named and the others of their ilk have careers because people are buying their records and going to their shows. With the changes in the business people had to adjust or find other careers...there are plenty of artists who have found their niche and the internet has played a huge role in that...yeah I called it the internet chittlin circuit, but it's really simply about utilizng what is available to maximize your exposure...




>
>>bottom line is that there are tons of artists making soul,
>>funk, R&B and jazz who are making really solid music and
>>making a decent living using other than mainstream avenues
>to
>>promote their work.
>>
>>You argued against that concept previously yet now you
>embrace
>>it to try and diss D'Angelo.... lol..
>
>I never argued against that concept and I didn't use it to
>diss D'Angelo either. I ridiculed vee-lover's (false) claim
>that there is no market for jazz. But I guess anybody who
>disagrees with a D'Angelo stan on *any* subject is
>automatically dissing D'Angelo smh

you used current Black Jazz artists as an example of artists who are more authentic than D'Angelo and making a living on jazz labels.... Previously the idea that there were plenty of soul R&B or electronic music type of acts making a living on labels that cater to that music and using avenues that are outside the mainstream for black music was something you dimissed....

The internet chittlin circuit is promoting those jazz artists too...very much so...particularly a Jose James or a Gregory Porter...

and dude..you dissapear on these boards only to return to be the D'Angelo contrarian....so really who is the stan??? lolol.

  

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83. "They aren't making a living primarily off the Internet"
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or any online "chitlin circuit," I'll tell you that for sure.

And THAT was the crux of our disagreement... NOT about whether or not artists can survive outside of the mainstream.

>you used current Black Jazz artists as an example of artists
>who are more authentic than D'Angelo and making a living on
>jazz labels.... Previously the idea that there were plenty of
>soul R&B or electronic music type of acts making a living on
>labels that cater to that music and using avenues that are
>outside the mainstream for black music was something you
>dimissed....

Nope. I dismissed "the Internet chitlin circuit" and I still do. Especially since many of the shows you put forward as representative of your "Internet chitlin circuit" were actually primarily terrestrial even though you may exercise the option to listen to them online. And then you were citing artists like Dam-Funk--who is signed to Stones Throw, one of the biggest and most influential indie labels around, they may as well be considered a major.

I'm not gonna revisit this argument, by the way. I've said my piece and you sound crazy. Again: I run a music business that grew out of Internet buzz... does it make sense to you that I would "dismiss the idea" of non-mainstream promotion?

What I said is that there has to be some real world dollars being spent, or it is all smoke and mirrors. When you talk about an "Internet chitlin circuit," remember that in the real chitlin circuit, people BOUGHT TICKETS.

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84. "wow...you are completely missing the point"
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>or any online "chitlin circuit," I'll tell you that for sure.
>
>
>And THAT was the crux of our disagreement... NOT about whether
>or not artists can survive outside of the mainstream.

the internet is a means..not an end. That's been my point from the begining...I think this is just another issue where you've chosen to misrepresent what I'm saying just be be disagreeable..but then later down the line say exactly what I said before....

My only point in all of that topic was that there was a way for artists to make a living outside of the mainstream... (which is what your point was about jazz in this thread) YOU added all this misrepresentation about me claiming that the artists are making money ONLY off the internet.

the internet chittlin circuit as a vehicle for artists to make a way outside the mainstream...get heard..market to your audience and expand your audience....

it's working for a plethora of artists ....jazz artists too...

the earlier poster said that there wasn't an audience for jazz...you argued there was based on all the artists making a living and who are signed to jazz labels.... Well man, jazz is NOT prime promoted mainstream genre and those artists are utilizing the internet chittlin circuit the same way I'm talking about...Gregory Porter and Jose James again are just 2 of the many examples...



>
>>you used current Black Jazz artists as an example of artists
>>who are more authentic than D'Angelo and making a living on
>>jazz labels.... Previously the idea that there were plenty
>of
>>soul R&B or electronic music type of acts making a living on
>>labels that cater to that music and using avenues that are
>>outside the mainstream for black music was something you
>>dimissed....
>
>Nope. I dismissed "the Internet chitlin circuit" and I still
>do. Especially since many of the shows you put forward as
>representative of your "Internet chitlin circuit" were
>actually primarily terrestrial even though you may exercise
>the option to listen to them online. And then you were citing
>artists like Dam-Funk--who is signed to Stones Throw, one of
>the biggest and most influential indie labels around, they may
>as well be considered a major.
>
>I'm not gonna revisit this argument, by the way. I've said my
>piece and you sound crazy. Again: I run a music business that
>grew out of Internet buzz... does it make sense to you that I
>would "dismiss the idea" of non-mainstream promotion?

Maybe the internet chittlin circuit isn't working for the music you promote through your label...but it's certainly working for a ton of other artists...both new and old. People are buying their records...going to their shows...and you certainly aren't hearing their stuff on mainstream sources...it's internet radio..uk stations like Solar Radio or Starpoint radio...webcasts like Giles and the like.... live performances that are available on line (Jose James KCRW set from his BlackMagic album tour is a prime example)

you can move the goal posts all you want and claim stones throw is a major...you're proving my point...it's because you have an internet chittlin circuit that guys like Mayer Hawthorne, or Dam Funk or the Stepkids are ever heard by the masses...they certainly aren't getting put on through corporate owned media or tv....

the "internet chittlin circuit" made it possible for stones throw to venture into new current artists and break the likes of Dam and Mayer


>
>What I said is that there has to be some real world dollars
>being spent, or it is all smoke and mirrors. When you talk
>about an "Internet chitlin circuit," remember that in the real
>chitlin circuit, people BOUGHT TICKETS.

and all the artists I'm naming ..people are buying their tickets and their albums BECAUSE they heard them on the internet chittlin circuit.

  

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86. "LOL this is the exact same haterism you spewed last time"
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>Maybe the internet chittlin circuit isn't working for the
>music you promote through your label...

I already told you I am quite pleased with the level of success I have achieved, despite al your wishes for the contrary. But keep hoping!

>it's internet radio..uk stations like Solar Radio or
>Starpoint radio...webcasts like Giles and the like....

Gilles is terrestrial

>you can move the goal posts all you want and claim stones
>throw is a major...you're proving my point...

I'm not proving your point at all. You're the one who moved the posts in the first place by claiming that I endorsed your point by saying that jazz musicians and other artists make a living outside the mainstream. I didn't say a damn thing about the Internet, let alone some mythical "chitlin circuit."

it's because you
>have an internet chittlin circuit that guys like Mayer
>Hawthorne, or Dam Funk or the Stepkids are ever heard by the
>masses...they certainly aren't getting put on through
>corporate owned media or tv....

Not saying the Internet didn't help them, but there are many other forms of media that artists like that have traditionally been heard: college radio, alternative mags, etc. The idea that they would have been nothing without your "chitlin circuit" is false.

>the "internet chittlin circuit" made it possible for stones
>throw to venture into new current artists and break the likes
>of Dam and Mayer

Stones Throw been putting out new, current artists since the 90s... what are you talking about?

EDIT: And what do you mean that jazz is not a "prime promoted mainstream genre" or whatever you said? Is jazz as promoted as aggressively as hip-hop or teeny pop? No... But it IS promoted. It has a presence on the Billboard charts... there are several mainstream jazz mags... It's arguable that most of the audience that supports jazz today is one of the least web-savvy demographics around. So again, the notion that jazz survives only by the grace of your "Internet chitlin circuit" is absolute rubbish.

And I will say again: the notion that I dismissed the idea that artists can survive without mainstream support is ridiculous.

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96. "no hate at all"
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>>Maybe the internet chittlin circuit isn't working for the
>>music you promote through your label...
>
>I already told you I am quite pleased with the level of
>success I have achieved, despite al your wishes for the
>contrary. But keep hoping!

you've always come across as a bitter dude who projects his failings upon others....

but I have no wishes for anyone to fail... In fact I think I may have downloaded a compilation that was on your label...not sure..I'll have to check...but it was probably pretty good..

no ill will player... You took this so-called beef way way way too personal... lighten up my nigga... this a message board...Warren Coolidge don't give a fukk what you do.

best of luck with all that shit....


>
>>it's internet radio..uk stations like Solar Radio or
>>Starpoint radio...webcasts like Giles and the like....
>
>Gilles is terrestrial

lol... your average music purchaser in the US doesn't know giles petersen... He's not part of the current mainstream at all..




>>you can move the goal posts all you want and claim stones
>>throw is a major...you're proving my point...
>
>I'm not proving your point at all. You're the one who moved
>the posts in the first place by claiming that I endorsed your
>point by saying that jazz musicians and other artists make a
>living outside the mainstream. I didn't say a damn thing about
>the Internet, let alone some mythical "chitlin circuit."
>
>it's because you
>>have an internet chittlin circuit that guys like Mayer
>>Hawthorne, or Dam Funk or the Stepkids are ever heard by the
>>masses...they certainly aren't getting put on through
>>corporate owned media or tv....
>
>Not saying the Internet didn't help them,

you wouldn't know who those guys were without it. Period.


but there are many
>other forms of media that artists like that have traditionally
>been heard: college radio, alternative mags, etc.

yeah..but that's not how those specific artists I mentioned got heard...right today it's about what I called the Internet chittlin circuit....


The idea
>that they would have been nothing without your "chitlin
>circuit" is false.

the reality is that those people are known because they took a very specific route....they aren't known becasue of college radio or no damn magazines....lol.. deal in the reality player



>
>>the "internet chittlin circuit" made it possible for stones
>>throw to venture into new current artists and break the
>likes
>>of Dam and Mayer
>
>Stones Throw been putting out new, current artists since the
>90s... what are you talking about?

not that where breaking on the scene doing the type of music that Mayer and Dam or the stepkids did...stones throw been doing it for years no doubt...but regardless they are not a major and in recent years have put out new, current, not the rare re-issue type of stuff...and not hip hop/ rap music ..but Mayer and Dam and the stepkids are a new thing for them....


>
>EDIT: And what do you mean that jazz is not a "prime promoted
>mainstream genre" or whatever you said? Is jazz as promoted as
>aggressively as hip-hop or teeny pop? No... But it IS
>promoted.

yep... Jose James ..Mario Biondi.... Gregory Porter.... They are gettin promoted on the internet chittlin circuit...

It has a presence on the Billboard charts... there
>are several mainstream jazz mags... It's arguable that most of
>the audience that supports jazz today is one of the least
>web-savvy demographics around.

I'm not talking about older folks checking for established artists..I'm talking NEW music...

So again, the notion that jazz
>survives only by the grace of your "Internet chitlin circuit"
>is absolute rubbish.

New Jazz is being broken that way....not exclusively obviously.. (you keep acting like Warren Coolidge is speakin in absolutes) I'm talking about NEW artists ....BEFORE they hit the mainstream jazz magazines.


>

  

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196. "to be fair warren, US is not the musical center of the world"
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>lol... your average music purchaser in the US doesn't know
>giles petersen... He's not part of the current mainstream at
>all..
Giles Peterson was a big name DJ in the UK/Europe prior to the internet having any weight. I don't even live in the UK and I have seen him three times. He is not a good example of some internet generated niche artist/DJ. He has always made his money in the real world from the start from holding down club residences, selling actual records and headlining big (and mainstream) festivals around the world.

same thing goes for alot of these UK acts. just because we hear about them through the internet does not mean they have not been grinding it out on the local scene.

  

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201. "gilles has broken numerous new artists "
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>>lol... your average music purchaser in the US doesn't know
>>giles petersen... He's not part of the current mainstream at
>>all..
>Giles Peterson was a big name DJ in the UK/Europe prior to the
>internet having any weight. I don't even live in the UK and I
>have seen him three times. He is not a good example of some
>internet generated niche artist/DJ.

Through his worldwide radio show. He was playing amy winehouse white labels from jump.... Broke jasmin sullivan years before she hit the majors....



He has always made his
>money in the real world from the start from holding down club
>residences, selling actual records and headlining big (and
>mainstream) festivals around the world.

I'm not really speaking on how giles makes a living. I'm talking about how his radio show has functioned as an avenue for new artists to be heard.



>same thing goes for alot of these UK acts. just because we
>hear about them through the internet does not mean they have
>not been grinding it out on the local scene.

Which is really my point.... Them being heat through internet radio shows and the like is a part of their grind.

  

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204. "But like I told you before: Gilles is terrestrial."
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>I'm not really speaking on how giles makes a living. I'm
>talking about how his radio show has functioned as an avenue
>for new artists to be heard.

I got the vibe that the first time I said it, you didn't understand what I meant by "terrestrial," because your reply didn't address it at all. Worldwide is not really an Internet radio show per se... Is it available on the Internet? Yes. Is it awesome that people around the world get to listen to it online? Also yes.

But if you live in the UK, that show is on regular, national radio--not even pirate radio.

Which ties in to what dafriquan is saying about "you can't look at the whole world through the lens of the US" and what is available through corporate-control media... Sure, over here everything is controlled by ClearChannel, but in other parts of the world, more adventurous music CAN be accessed via more conventional channels (which is not to say that Gilles' show represents "the mainstream" in Britain either... but it's there! On national radio!

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215. "it was ignored because it's irrelevant to my point..."
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>>I'm not really speaking on how giles makes a living. I'm
>>talking about how his radio show has functioned as an avenue
>>for new artists to be heard.
>
>I got the vibe that the first time I said it, you didn't
>understand what I meant by "terrestrial," because your reply
>didn't address it at all. Worldwide is not really an Internet
>radio show per se... Is it available on the Internet? Yes. Is
>it awesome that people around the world get to listen to it
>online? Also yes.
>
>But if you live in the UK, that show is on regular, national
>radio--not even pirate radio.

Gilles Peterson breaks new artists ..he's not playing whats on the top of the charts...that's never been the purpose of his show...in fact it's been the exact opposite...

the fact his show is on BBC radio is again irrelevant...I'm speaking about what music his playing...and who is making that music...and thus..the purpose of his radio show......

Gilles breaks a lot of new artists...plays a lot of white labels from many artists that eventually blow up worldwide..or that because huge more underground type of artists....he also provides a place for those artists to play their music live in session..which again is very much outside of the norm in terms of mainstream music.






>Which ties in to what dafriquan is saying about "you can't
>look at the whole world through the lens of the US" and what
>is available through corporate-control media

lol..first of all..I do not listen to ANY US radio (except for sports talk radio).... I listen to a few BBC radio shows....Solar Radio pretty on the daily and also Starpoint radio... but haven't listened to any corporate radio in years and years...lol. If anything my point in all of this has been to point out exactly what you just said...lol. So you repeating it in an attempt to be contrarian to what I'm saying is really really missing the boat.


Sure, over
>here everything is controlled by ClearChannel, but in other
>parts of the world, more adventurous music CAN be accessed via
>more conventional channels

again....that was my point. **shrug** Although you can access Gilles Peterson through BBC radio....does the music he plays impact the mainstream charts???


(which is not to say that Gilles'
>show represents "the mainstream" in Britain either... but it's
>there! On national radio!

you just answered...no it doesn't...

my point about the internet chittlin circuit is that there are ways for non-mainstream soul/r&b/funk/jazz/electronic/dance music artists to have their music heard...to market their music to audiences who will buy it..and who will go to their shows...

new artists....and estbalished artists who aren't on majors any more...or classic artists still making music.... there are ways to get it done out there and still make a living...

that's been my point....

  

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222. "It's relevant because you're talking about an 'Internet chitlin circuit'"
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as if it's something distinct from terrestrial radio, but you're including terrestrial radio shows in the list

That's like me saying that just because I watch TV shows on Hulu that NBC, CBS and ABC are part of a new, alternative Internet TV model.

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223. "it is distinctly different if the the content is different..."
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>as if it's something distinct from terrestrial radio, but
>you're including terrestrial radio shows in the list

if the content is different ie different artists being heard on one from the other..then yes it's distinctly different...

if an artist is not able to advance their work on one, yet can advance it on the other then yes it's distinctly different..

if the process to get played on one is different than the other..then they are distinctly different.

certainly many of these avenues that are part of what I've coined the internet chittlin circuit are in a very general sense standard mainstream devices...but if in a specific sense what artists are able to do on the circuit when those opportunities are not available to them on mainstream venues then it becomes something alternative and different even though they may be using generally mainstream and traditional devices...

my point remains ....new artists....established artists...and classic artists have ways of getting their music heard, reaching their audience and making a living on routes that are outside of the mainstream in their content. It's working for numerous artists.... and you've provided nothing to contradict that other than over-generalizing and basiclly repeating back the same shit I'm saying..lol..


>
>That's like me saying that just because I watch TV shows on
>Hulu that NBC, CBS and ABC are part of a new, alternative
>Internet TV model.


If what you are watching on Hulu is not available and different than what is avaiable on Network TV then Hulu is distinctly different than network tv based on that specific content. If people are able to market their work and make a living using Hulu in ways that's not available to them on network tv then Hulu is part of an alternative strategy for them that allows them to circumvent network television..

game...set....match.

  

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237. "?"
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>If what you are watching on Hulu is not available and
>different than what is avaiable on Network TV then Hulu is
>distinctly different than network tv based on that specific
>content.

But Gilles and others ARE available on regular radio, and what you hear on their shows is the same thing you hear on the radio.

It's like you're arguing in circles here.


"Game, set, match" my ass.

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245. "content.....the content is different....yo..you lost this argument bruh"
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>>If what you are watching on Hulu is not available and
>>different than what is avaiable on Network TV then Hulu is
>>distinctly different than network tv based on that specific
>>content.
>
>But Gilles and others ARE available on regular radio, and what
>you hear on their shows is the same thing you hear on the
>radio.
>
>It's like you're arguing in circles here.
>
>
>"Game, set, match" my ass


you parsing words and playing dumb just to be disagreeable to cover the L you took...

what Gilles and the others on the so-called internet chittlin circuit are playing.....is not being played in the mainstream...

if there is content on Hulu that is not available on network tv..then in terms of that specific content, what Hulu is offering is distinctly different....

  

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246. "your language shows that you know you fucked up."
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Talking about "you lost this argument" and "the L you took"... lol who the fuck is arguing with you?

I pointed out a simple fact: You talk about an "Internet chitlin circuit" as distinct from terrestrial radio. Meanwhile, some of the major shows in your "chitlin circuit" are terrestrial shows. And you haven't denied this either.

All this extra rationalization you are throwing in is completely irrelevant (notice that I stopped responding to--or even reading--it a few replies ago?)

Gilles is a terrestrial DJ. His show appears on national, tax-supported radio and not some radical new paradigm.

That's what I said. You have yet to refute it. So miss me with all your "content" talk... You sound idiotic with all that extra mess.

EDIT: But just so you don't try to make some specious argument that I am avoiding your bogus "point"... let me address that (even though I have not read more than 2 or 3 lines of your last two bullshit posts)

If your argument is about "content"... There were already terrestrial stations that featured "alternative" content. Very influential college radio stations, public radio stations like WFMU etc. Again... the shit is nothing new.

Gilles show and others on Radio 1... Nova Radio in Paris, etc. they've been playing this same "content" on *regular radio* for years, so how is it anything new? Again, taking us back to what dafriquan said: You're too caught up with America and the corporate radio structure here s you don't realize that in other countries, there have ALWAYS been alternatives.

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247. "lol...."
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>Talking about "you lost this argument" and "the L you
>took"... lol who the fuck is arguing with you?
>
Nigga you arguing with me...lol.



>I pointed out a simple fact: You talk about an "Internet
>chitlin circuit" as distinct from terrestrial radio.
>Meanwhile, some of the major shows in your "chitlin circuit"
>are terrestrial shows. And you haven't denied this either.

I continue to point out to that whether or not a show is terrestrial or not.....has nothing to do with anything... particularly Giles Peterson's radio show in terms of functioning as a vehicle for non-mainstream music and artists to be heard serves as an ALTERNATIVE outlet for artists who are not nor is their music part of the so-called mainstream. Artists of that ilk are not sending their music or in many other circumstances traveling to the UK or Europe in general to promote themselves to an audience that doesn't fukk with their type of music.... They are taking advantage of an opportunity that exists for them to be heard.

I'll use KCRW's morning becomes eclectic as an example. Jose James or Van Hunt or Raphael Saadiq or Mark Ronson or Janelle Monet or any number of the other artists whose live performances on those shows have been heralded far beyond the reach of KCRW 89.9 in Los Angeles radio frequency...nor was is limited to those who happened to be listening in the morning live when their shows were broadcasted. The fact that Morning Becomes eclectic is archived on KCRW's site allows that show to go BEYOND their format as a radio show in los angeles.... I'm pretty sure there are some very tangible benefits that specificlly a Jose James, Janelle Monet and others got from their performances on that show that led to some direct revenue coming in for them..and seriously expanding their audience..




>
>All this extra rationalization you are throwing in is
>completely irrelevant (notice that I stopped responding to--or
>even reading--it a few replies ago?)


Nigga u keep responding...lol. And honestly it's kind of old going back and forth with you. I'm not trying to have Warren Coolidge known as the guy who debates some clown on the internet..lol.

>
>Gilles is a terrestrial DJ. His show appears on national,
>tax-supported radio and not some radical new paradigm.

The new paradigm is that artists who are not a part of the current so called Black Mainstream are getting their work heard and expanding their audience all over the world utilizing avenues that support their type of content and are of a medium where outreach to a larger audience is available...certainly not available to the degree of corporate owned media..but artists are on the grind out there and fortunately there are making a way...

you can keep making foolish responses that honestly have nothing to do with what I have defined as the internet chittlin circuit....but your really small minded lack of vision type of responses are getting boring...you're speaking a different language than me.

>
>That's what I said. You have yet to refute it. So miss me with
>all your "content" talk... You sound idiotic with all that
>extra mess.

Why would I try and refute something that has nothing to with the topic at hand?? lolol

>EDIT: But just so you don't try to make some specious argument
>that I am avoiding your bogus "point"... let me address that
>(even though I have not read more than 2 or 3 lines of your
>last two bullshit posts)


dude if you aren't reading my posts, stop responding... I'm not here to debate weirdos...

>
>If your argument is about "content"...

It's always been about content... if you didn't figure that out you are obviously not paying attention.



There were already
>terrestrial stations that featured "alternative" content.
Very
>influential college radio stations, public radio stations like
>WFMU etc. Again... the shit is nothing new.

so...lol. I mean honestly what does that have to do with anything. I'm talkin bout NOW nigga....Right Today..... I'm not here to give history lessons...fool ain't nobody impressed with you trying to pull fukkin obvious facts out your ass acting like you're bringing something to the table...lolol...

I'm talking about what current artists are doing TODAY....they are making away for themselves TODAY. Doing so today is distinctly different than what was done in the past because the industry is completely different in pretty much every way...lol.




>
>Gilles show and others on Radio 1... Nova Radio in Paris, etc.
>they've been playing this same "content" on *regular radio*
>for years, so how is it anything new?

What's new is that those type of avenues as they exist today play are more impactful role in certain artists career because certain mainstream opportunities no longer exist for those artists? None of the specific artists that I've named throughout all of this have a place in the larger black music mainstream.....they simply don't. So many are reaching their audiences through avenues that cater to them....

I mean you honestly sound like an idiot acting like I'm claiming the concept of "alternative" radio is new or whatever the fukk you sayin...lol..

seriously dude..if you ain't paying attention to what is being said...don't respond. I've made my point and all you're doing is talkin out yo ass wit this bullshit...lol.


Again, taking us back to
>what dafriquan said: You're too caught up with America and the
>corporate radio structure here s you don't realize that in
>other countries, there have ALWAYS been alternatives.

again...you and whatever dude's name is are obviously not paying attention......keep it pushin player..

lol..you would be the one taking the term "alternative" all Tresvant-like....lol.....

  

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248. "EDIT: Actually... why bother."
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Wed May-30-12 05:35 AM by AFKAP_of_Darkness

  

          

I don't see the point of even replying since I didn't read a single word of the post, just like I didn't read more than 4 lines of your past couple of posts.

You seem a LOT more invested in this than me... (I mean, didn't this start--as usual--with me minding my own business and you coming in here to exhume and misinterpret some old statements to prove that I'm wrong or lying?)

I've said my shit. And stood by it consistently without a bunch of contortions and focus-shifts from "medium" to "content" and the like.

So yeah. Seems like you *need* this. If believing that I "took an L" helps get your dick semi-hard enough for you to feel like a winner in life... Be my guest.

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249. "great...most don't see any value in responding to something"
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>I don't see the point of even replying since I didn't read a
>single word of the post, just like I didn't read more than 4
>lines of your past couple of posts.

they haven't actually read.... Welcome to the club.

>
>You seem a LOT more invested in this than me... (I mean,
>didn't this start--as usual--with me minding my own business
>and you coming in here to exhume and misinterpret some old
>statements to prove that I'm wrong or lying?)


Warren Coolidge points out inconsistency...that's what he does. Your super-sensativity to being held accountable for what you said is obviously an issue.

>
>I've said my shit. And stood by it consistently without a
>bunch of contortions and focus-shifts from "medium" to
>"content" and the like.

again..You are not in a position to analyze my opinion.... I'm not presenting my views for your approval or dissaproval.


>
>So yeah. Seems like you *need* this. If believing that I "took
>an L" helps get your dick semi-hard enough for you to feel
>like a winner in life... Be my guest.
>
>
like I said man...I'm not comfortable with the name Warren Coolidge being associated with you as some sort of counterpart in juvenille debates... You're on some other stuff....Warren Coolidge ain't on that and would rather not taint the name Warren Coolidge with such foolishness...

  

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44. "I love D, but this is on point^^"
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vee-lover is talking BALDERDASH !


What the blood claaat ???

  

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28. "well, then that makes you a dumbass."
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>hey, that's Questo's opinion and he's entitled to it - I
>certainly would take his opinion on music and artists before
>yours...just saying

all respect to ?uest, but that is a bullshit statement... and if you are willing to swallow such a ridiculous statement just because he is ?uest... well, then you are a BIG part of the problem of why "pure" artists are less visible in the first place.

>and it ain't like theirs a lot of "pure artists" these days
>anyway irrespective of race

Seriously. Think about what you just said.

It's pretty silly, isn't it?

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36. "no, it has nothing to do w/me, you idiot, it's his opinion...but I forgo..."
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for a second who I was responding to smh


>>hey, that's Questo's opinion and he's entitled to it - I
>>certainly would take his opinion on music and artists before
>>yours...just saying
>
>all respect to ?uest, but that is a bullshit statement... and
>if you are willing to swallow such a ridiculous statement just
>because he is ?uest... well, then you are a BIG part of the
>problem of why "pure" artists are less visible in the first
>place.

again, if you don't believe that then fine but I'm sure Quest can back up his own reasons for stating that...and what he said isn't w/o merit as it relates to the vast majority of black artists nowadays.
>
>>and it ain't like theirs a lot of "pure artists" these days
>>anyway irrespective of race
>
>Seriously. Think about what you just said.
>
>It's pretty silly, isn't it?

lol - I know exactly what I said and I stand firmly behind it because its true when it comes to most current black artist and their artistry today. The term "pure artist" has become obsolete in today's music world, its all abt label execs exploiting what works instead of what's of real sonic quality.

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40. "yep... ?uest is a celebrity, so anything he says must have merit!"
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45. "you are proven more and more to be a simple minded fucktard lol"
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Quest has always provided good insight when it comes to music...and his celebrity has absolutely NOTHING to do w/why I listen to something he says in comparison to, lets say, R Kelly who's eons more famous than Questlove...

the fact that you would even try and say that shows how dumb and intellectually insecure you are.

I guess I'm to assume you'd rather ppl listen to your opinions since you are a nobody, huh?

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46. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owlnRlmgvNw"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owlnRlmgvNw


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47. "RE: you are proven more and more to be a simple minded fucktard lol"
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>Quest has always provided good insight when it comes to
>music...and his celebrity has absolutely NOTHING to do w/why I
>listen to something he says in comparison to, lets say, R
>Kelly who's eons more famous than Questlove...

But ?uest has often NOT provided good insight when it comes to D'Angelo. This is well known... I would think that just about everybody but the hardest brainwashed stan would dab a lit smidgen of salt on ?uest's D'Angelo raves.

But anyway... listen to what you're saying: You've not actually used your own mind to try to compute some sort of valid reason why ?uest's statement makes sense... You have just essentially said "Well... I'm sure ?uest has a good reason to say what he said, and I'm going to accept it on faith because he's The Mighty ?uestlove. Fuck thinking for myself!"


>I guess I'm to assume you'd rather ppl listen to your opinions
>since you are a nobody, huh?

Actually, I'm not a nobody and I have had many people listen to and pay for my opinions for many years. But that's neither here nor there. I'd not rather people listen to my opinions... I'd rather they use their own brains, ears and eyes to look around them and see that it is plainly obvious that there are thousands of "pure" (however you wanna define that) African-American artists working today, making art on a daily basis and the notion that the only "pure" African-American artist is a guy who has not made art in 10 years.

"Pure" artists MAKE ART. They don't spend a decade fucking around while others make excuses for why they're not making art.

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50. "RE: you are proven more and more to be a simple minded fucktard lol"
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>But ?uest has often NOT provided good insight when it comes to
>D'Angelo. This is well known... I would think that just about
>everybody but the hardest brainwashed stan would dab a lit
>smidgen of salt on ?uest's D'Angelo raves.

wtf? Quest has routinely been the one person who spoken honestly abt D'angelo...whether it be his procrastination, his personal matters, and why he and D'angelo fell out. I've heard these things from his own mouth, you're trying to act like Questlove is some D'angelo stan who's unable to speak objectively abt him...
>
>But anyway... listen to what you're saying: You've not
>actually used your own mind to try to compute some sort of
>valid reason why ?uest's statement makes sense... You have
>just essentially said "Well... I'm sure ?uest has a good
>reason to say what he said, and I'm going to accept it on
>faith because he's The Mighty ?uestlove. Fuck thinking for
>myself!"

I've already given my opinion on what I think constitutes a pure artist and I can see why Quest would say that in reference to D'angelo - even though he didn't state in the article why he thinks that is.
>
>
>>I guess I'm to assume you'd rather ppl listen to your
>opinions
>>since you are a nobody, huh?
>
>Actually, I'm not a nobody and I have had many people listen
>to and pay for my opinions for many years. But that's neither
>here nor there. I'd not rather people listen to my opinions...
>I'd rather they use their own brains, ears and eyes to look
>around them and see that it is plainly obvious that there are
>thousands of "pure" (however you wanna define that)
>African-American artists working today, making art on a daily
>basis and the notion that the only "pure" African-American
>artist is a guy who has not made art in 10 years.

lmao - you cited independent and jazz artists to prove your point. Now how many mainstream artists can you label as "pure?"...I want to see how pure these artists are you're talking abt when they're signed to a major label that may not allow them to put out the music of their choice...and let me see if they can resist label demands and not compromise their art.

>
>"Pure" artists MAKE ART. They don't spend a decade fucking
>around while others make excuses for why they're not making
>art.

His well documented personal problems were a big reason for his decade long hiatus...and as the article pointed out, it wasn't as if he wasn't making music. I'm sure he has tons of unreleased material

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55. "Where are you running off to with those goal posts?"
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>wtf? Quest has routinely been the one person who spoken
>honestly abt D'angelo...whether it be his procrastination, his
>personal matters, and why he and D'angelo fell out. I've heard
>these things from his own mouth, you're trying to act like
>Questlove is some D'angelo stan who's unable to speak
>objectively abt him...

Questlove said that D'Angelo was playing guitar on the same level as Frank Zappa.

Frank Zappa. Do you know who that is?

Okay.


>lmao - you cited independent and jazz artists to prove your
>point. Now how many mainstream artists can you label as
>"pure?"...I want to see how pure these artists are you're
>talking abt when they're signed to a major label that may not
>allow them to put out the music of their choice...and let me
>see if they can resist label demands and not compromise their
>art.

Did ?uest say that D'Angelo was the last pure MAINSTREAM African-American artist, or did he just say he was the last pure African-American artist?

I must have missed where he said "mainstream" (or where he specifically ruled out jazz, blues, rock and every other genre except for "urban")... unless you are just trying to move the posts and add qualifiers that weren't there in order to preserve your point.

(Even then, your argument still fails... because there are other "pure" African-American artists in the mainstream... who actually record and release music!)

>>"Pure" artists MAKE ART. They don't spend a decade fucking
>>around while others make excuses for why they're not making
>>art.
>
>His well documented personal problems were a big reason for
>his decade long hiatus...and as the article pointed out, it
>wasn't as if he wasn't making music. I'm sure he has tons of
>unreleased material

LOL I'm sure.

Art is a process that is completed when the work is delivered to the audience. If you write a novel and put it in a drawer, it's technically unfinished. Are you really an artist if you are not putting your work in front of an audience... or are you a hobbyist?

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66. "there's no goal post moving, you just don't comprehend too well"
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>>wtf? Quest has routinely been the one person who spoken
>>honestly abt D'angelo...whether it be his procrastination,
>his
>>personal matters, and why he and D'angelo fell out. I've
>heard
>>these things from his own mouth, you're trying to act like
>>Questlove is some D'angelo stan who's unable to speak
>>objectively abt him...
>
>Questlove said that D'Angelo was playing guitar on the same
>level as Frank Zappa.

first off, did you even read the article since you've stated repeatedly that you haven't, yet, you're commenting on what was said in the article as if you have. Secondly, I didn't read that as Quest comparing his guitar playing to Zappa but more abt the fact they're both self taught guitarist. Coult be wrong but that's how I read it because the article talked abt how D'angelo has threw himself into teaching himself how to play the guitar.
>
>Frank Zappa. Do you know who that is?

isn't he a comic book hero?

>>lmao - you cited independent and jazz artists to prove your
>>point. Now how many mainstream artists can you label as
>>"pure?"...I want to see how pure these artists are you're
>>talking abt when they're signed to a major label that may
>not
>>allow them to put out the music of their choice...and let me
>>see if they can resist label demands and not compromise
>their
>>art.
>
>Did ?uest say that D'Angelo was the last pure MAINSTREAM
>African-American artist, or did he just say he was the last
>pure African-American artist?

I mean this is where common sense has to come in to play lol. How does anyone speak for all the 10s of thousands of independent and unheard artists out there vis-a-vis their purity lol. Even when we discuss artists in general on this board, we're talking abt artists who the vast majority of ppl can reference.
>
>I must have missed where he said "mainstream" (or where he
>specifically ruled out jazz, blues, rock and every other genre
>except for "urban")... unless you are just trying to move the
>posts and add qualifiers that weren't there in order to
>preserve your point.

smh
>
>(Even then, your argument still fails... because there are
>other "pure" African-American artists in the mainstream... who
>actually record and release music!)

who? name names?
>
>>>"Pure" artists MAKE ART. They don't spend a decade fucking
>>>around while others make excuses for why they're not making
>>>art.
>>
>>His well documented personal problems were a big reason for
>>his decade long hiatus...and as the article pointed out, it
>>wasn't as if he wasn't making music. I'm sure he has tons of
>>unreleased material
>
>LOL I'm sure.
>
>Art is a process that is completed when the work is delivered
>to the audience. If you write a novel and put it in a drawer,
>it's technically unfinished. Are you really an artist if you
>are not putting your work in front of an audience... or are
>you a hobbyist?

No its not, art is art, whether its put out for commercial consumption or not. The music can be released posthumously as is the case w/many artists.
>

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68. "Is my comprehension poor, or are you reading meanings into things"
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in order to justify statements that otherwise make no sense?


>first off, did you even read the article since you've stated
>repeatedly that you haven't, yet, you're commenting on what
>was said in the article as if you have.

I didn't have to read the article to comment upon the Zappa comment, because (even though the author of the article apparently does not acknowledge it in the piece) that comment was actually taken directly from THIS very message board on which we are occupying space right now.

Secondly, I didn't
>read that as Quest comparing his guitar playing to Zappa but
>more abt the fact they're both self taught guitarist. Coult be
>wrong but that's how I read it because the article talked abt
>how D'angelo has threw himself into teaching himself how to
>play the guitar.

Oh... That's how you read it, is it?

Did you read the entire quote, or just the part of it that allows you to read some unassociated meaning into it?

"...He can play the shit out of it, and I don't mean no Lil Wayne shit."

Lil Wayne is a self-taught guitarist too, isn't he?


>I mean this is where common sense has to come in to play lol.
>How does anyone speak for all the 10s of thousands of
>independent and unheard artists out there vis-a-vis their
>purity lol. Even when we discuss artists in general on this
>board, we're talking abt artists who the vast majority of ppl
>can reference.

So you admit that it was a ridiculous statement.

Glad you finally came around.


>>Art is a process that is completed when the work is
>delivered
>>to the audience. If you write a novel and put it in a
>drawer,
>>it's technically unfinished. Are you really an artist if you
>>are not putting your work in front of an audience... or are
>>you a hobbyist?
>
>No its not, art is art, whether its put out for commercial
>consumption or not. The music can be released posthumously as
>is the case w/many artists.

Yeah, but even if it is released posthumously, at least it is RELEASED.

Until it's released to an audience in some form (and mind you, I didn't even say "commercially") it's just hobbyism.

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90. "kap, it's bad enough you bother with WC, but fucking vee-lover?!??"
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who gives a fuck what that arseclown thinks?

about anything?

  

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93. "*sigh* "
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I'm not proud... I thought I was ready to come back, but perhaps it was too soon.


*temperance*

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217. "lol...you're the bobby fisher on lesson hate..."
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you saw that D'Angelo had a GQ article coming out and decided to come back to a message board to say the same tired ass shit you been saying about the guy....

honestly..that's some funnky style weirdo shit...lolol..

you should go back into hybernation and return when you have something of value to add to these discussions...

  

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158. "well I'm glad Quest came in here and defended the statements"
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that were quoted in the article

and

again, I take his word and don't think he was singing D'angelo's praises just because he's a fan or a friend of his...and neither do I accept what he says abt D'angelo because he's a celebrity smh

And let me say again in reference to Quest making the statement that D'angelo is the last pure african-american artist left, most sensible ppl reading that wouldn't think he has to qualify that statement by saying he's including jazz and independent artists ort whoever else...no different than when Jayz or Lil Wayne boldly declare themselves as the "greatest rapper" ever - now, are they including every unknown rapper on some independent label that no one knows of who can spit incredible bars or do you think they really mean they're better any known rapper on the scene that most ppl are familiar with?

Tony Bennet said Whitney Houston was the GREATEST SINGER TO EVER LIVE - so does that mean she was a better singer than some unknown singers who only sing in their church choir?


>Until it's released to an audience in some form (and mind you,
>I didn't even say "commercially") it's just hobbyism.

please!!! talk abt utterly ridiculous statements lmao - Art is art, period...and if you're not talking abt commerce when it comes to a person's artwork being exposed to the public then what are you talking abt? Anything created that isn't for commercial purposes can be defined as a "hobby." lol

So if an artist only allow a few friends to view their work or read their poetry at some coffee shop in a room full of ppl does that validate that person's art and that's what makes it a completed piece of artwork? smh


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37. "I'm gonna have to agree with Af. I can't even take that Quest quote.."
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>>hey, that's Questo's opinion and he's entitled to it - I
>>certainly would take his opinion on music and artists before
>>yours...just saying
>
>all respect to ?uest, but that is a bullshit statement... and
>if you are willing to swallow such a ridiculous statement just
>because he is ?uest... well, then you are a BIG part of the
>problem of why "pure" artists are less visible in the first
>place.
>
>>and it ain't like theirs a lot of "pure artists" these days
>>anyway irrespective of race
>
>Seriously. Think about what you just said.
>
>It's pretty silly, isn't it?

...seriously. Especially, when there are quite a few artist, who are actually putting out music, who do it for the pure love of it. And I stan for D(not speaking for anyone else, just me), but i'm not blind either.

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48. "Lemme say it again: its easy to be uncompromising in your art"
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when you're basically dwelling in obscurity

the examples given of "pure artists" were independent artists and jazz artists which aren't good ones in this case. Now, if all of a sudden jazz music started to become popular again I'd bet you that their would be more demands made of jazz artists by the label to cater their music to whatever is popular. Or if you're an independent HipHop artist, lets see how pure you are once you get signed to a major label and they tell you they want you to make records that sound like Lil Wayne or whoever and lets see how "pure" you remain then or if you have the courage to buck the system.

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49. "D isn't uncompromising in his art, though... never has been."
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If you were around for the making of Voodoo saga, you'll remember ?uest's regular reports about all the compromises being made, right up until the choice of covert art. And also, let's not forget that D is fundamentally a collaborative artist. You can't claim to be "uncompromising" when you are very dependent on others to help you develop and execute your vision.

D is not "uncompromising"... He's a procrastinator. And besides, I'm not even sure how desirable it is to be "uncompromising" in the first place. True artists know that there are always compromises to be made. The moment a vision leaves the safety of your head and interfaces with the material world, it's already compromised. The struggle then for the artist is to try to maintain as much of the original vision as possible... or to try to mold a new vision out of the compromised one.

Artists who go out of their way to talk about their refusal to compromise are almost always poseurs... Who was it who said "Perfectionism is an excuse for procrastination"? Whoever it was, they were on to something.

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58. "just because you make some concessions w/your art doesn't"
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negate him as being a pure artist.


>If you were around for the making of Voodoo saga, you'll
>remember ?uest's regular reports about all the compromises
>being made, right up until the choice of covert art. And also,
>let's not forget that D is fundamentally a collaborative
>artist. You can't claim to be "uncompromising" when you are
>very dependent on others to help you develop and execute your
>vision.

The things you listed are so minor and insignificant lol. The Voodoo cd is a classic example of someone who is true to their art. That cd was held up for YEARS because the label was upset that there was NOT ONE radio friendly single on that entire cd. He was holed up in Jimmy Hendrix's studio for months much to the label's chagrin who was demanding that he hurry up with the record. That entire record was completely opposite of anything done by any mainstream r&b act...it was also different than his previous cd which the label was also urging him to continue to make a Brown Sugar 2 to follow up the success of the 1st cd.
>
>D is not "uncompromising"... He's a procrastinator. And
>besides, I'm not even sure how desirable it is to be
>"uncompromising" in the first place. True artists know that
>there are always compromises to be made. The moment a vision
>leaves the safety of your head and interfaces with the
>material world, it's already compromised. The struggle then
>for the artist is to try to maintain as much of the original
>vision as possible... or to try to mold a new vision out of
>the compromised one.

wait, you just said D'angelo is not uncompromising yet you say in the same paragraph that GRREAT artists don't compromise...so which is he? And first of all, when you have ppl putting millions of dollars behind you, then of course you're going to have to compromise on some things - whether it be the album cover or which song to release...but the overriding principle for any artist is to be able to make the music they want to make instead of doing what's likely to get them a hit...

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59. "Read again."
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>wait, you just said D'angelo is not uncompromising yet you say
>in the same paragraph that GRREAT artists don't
>compromise...so which is he?

Never said anything of the kind.

I said *true* artists recognize that compromise is a part of their process. The fact that D'Angelo has compromised, though, does not make him a true artist--in my mind, at least--because I believe a true artist PUTS OUT WORK.

And first of all, when you have
>ppl putting millions of dollars behind you, then of course
>you're going to have to compromise on some things - whether it
>be the album cover or which song to release...but the
>overriding principle for any artist is to be able to make the
>music they want to make instead of doing what's likely to get
>them a hit...

So then the reaction is to spend 10 years NOT releasing any work to prove that you are a true artist?

Please. D's hero Marvin Gaye worked under MUCH more rigid record company directives... The industry was much more structured and demanding when James Brown and Sly Stone, Isaac Hayes and George Clinton et al were putting out work on a regular basis... See, that is the test of a true artist: When the label censors your original vision, you use your creativity to work around the strictures and still produce something that manages to convey your vision while marginally appeasing the company.

If you feel you gotta take your ball and go home because you feel the label ain't letting you say exactly what you wanna say the way you wanna say it... that ain't nothing to be admired; that's weak.

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62. "I was gonna say, they took the "In Our Lifetime" album from Marvin.."
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.......cause he was taking too long with finishing it. Shit, they need to do that with D.

>Please. D's hero Marvin Gaye worked under MUCH more rigid
>record company directives... The industry was much more
>structured and demanding when James Brown and Sly Stone, Isaac
>Hayes and George Clinton et al were putting out work on a
>regular basis... See, that is the test of a true artist: When
>the label censors your original vision, you use your
>creativity to work around the strictures and still produce
>something that manages to convey your vision while marginally
>appeasing the company.
>
>If you feel you gotta take your ball and go home because you
>feel the label ain't letting you say exactly what you wanna
>say the way you wanna say it... that ain't nothing to be
>admired; that's weak.


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63. "RE: Read again."
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>>wait, you just said D'angelo is not uncompromising yet you
>say
>>in the same paragraph that GRREAT artists don't
>>compromise...so which is he?
>
>Never said anything of the kind.
>
>I said *true* artists recognize that compromise is a part of
>their process. The fact that D'Angelo has compromised, though,
>does not make him a true artist--in my mind, at least--because
>I believe a true artist PUTS OUT WORK.

again, you keep trying to use the fact that he's been absent from the music scene as justification that he isn't a "true" artist. I can accept the fact that because of his limited output that ppl don't yet consider him to be a "great artist" (Chris Rock said in the article that its all abt body of work) but that doesn't mean he isn't true to the music he makes.

> And first of all, when you have
>>ppl putting millions of dollars behind you, then of course
>>you're going to have to compromise on some things - whether
>it
>>be the album cover or which song to release...but the
>>overriding principle for any artist is to be able to make
>the
>>music they want to make instead of doing what's likely to
>get
>>them a hit...
>
>So then the reaction is to spend 10 years NOT releasing any
>work to prove that you are a true artist?

you act like he was bullshittin during his time away lmao. I don't think he planned to be away this long, just like I'm sure Lauryn Hill didn't plan to either, things happen artists, particularly blk artists. (read the article since you said you haven't and they talk briefly abt the pressures blk artists, especially great blk artists, experience vs their white counterparts.
>
>Please. D's hero Marvin Gaye worked under MUCH more rigid
>record company directives... The industry was much more
>structured and demanding when James Brown and Sly Stone, Isaac
>Hayes and George Clinton et al were putting out work on a
>regular basis... See, that is the test of a true artist: When
>the label censors your original vision, you use your
>creativity to work around the strictures and still produce
>something that manages to convey your vision while marginally
>appeasing the company.

the music industry was entirely different then than it is today. For one, artists had more freedom to create the kinds of music they wanted vs today where EVERYTHING is formalaic because there's lots more money backing artists of today. And its funny that of all the artists you mentioned, all of them w/the exception Isaac Hayes has talked abt the pressures of the music business and how it contributed to some of their personal problems.
>
>If you feel you gotta take your ball and go home because you
>feel the label ain't letting you say exactly what you wanna
>say the way you wanna say it... that ain't nothing to be
>admired; that's weak.

that's a poor analogy because that applies he just stopped making music altogether and went into hiding...when the truth of it is that he fought w/the label and eventually got his way.

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52. "Okay, what about Maxwell & Erykah Badu ? "
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>when you're basically dwelling in obscurity
>
>the examples given of "pure artists" were independent artists
>and jazz artists which aren't good ones in this case. Now, if
>all of a sudden jazz music started to become popular again I'd
>bet you that their would be more demands made of jazz artists
>by the label to cater their music to whatever is popular. Or
>if you're an independent HipHop artist, lets see how pure you
>are once you get signed to a major label and they tell you
>they want you to make records that sound like Lil Wayne or
>whoever and lets see how "pure" you remain then or if you have
>the courage to buck the system.
>
>

Those are pure artist, who are in the "music system",no ? And John Legend, too.

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>Those are pure artist, who are in the "music system",no ? And
>John Legend, too.

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60. "I definitely think Erykah is amongst the purest of artists - Maxwell?"
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I'm not so sure...that's not to say he doesn't make good music

but

I have my reasons for saying that abt Maxwell that I don't care to discuss on this board

I've heard too much of John Legend's music recently where he tries to make music that fits in w/the current trends. He's not exactly someone I would describe as a "pure artist."


>>when you're basically dwelling in obscurity
>>
>>the examples given of "pure artists" were independent
>artists
>>and jazz artists which aren't good ones in this case. Now,
>if
>>all of a sudden jazz music started to become popular again
>I'd
>>bet you that their would be more demands made of jazz
>artists
>>by the label to cater their music to whatever is popular. Or
>>if you're an independent HipHop artist, lets see how pure
>you
>>are once you get signed to a major label and they tell you
>>they want you to make records that sound like Lil Wayne or
>>whoever and lets see how "pure" you remain then or if you
>have
>>the courage to buck the system.
>>
>>
>
>Those are pure artist, who are in the "music system",no ? And
>John Legend, too.
>
>silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk
>http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/
>
>"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.
>
>He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.
>
>R.I.P Jamie Hubley

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61. "fair enough, i guess........lol !!! We'll agree to disagree. *daps*."
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>I'm not so sure...that's not to say he doesn't make good
>music
>
>but
>
>I have my reasons for saying that abt Maxwell that I don't
>care to discuss on this board
>
>I've heard too much of John Legend's music recently where he
>tries to make music that fits in w/the current trends. He's
>not exactly someone I would describe as a "pure artist."
>
>
>>>when you're basically dwelling in obscurity
>>>
>>>the examples given of "pure artists" were independent
>>artists
>>>and jazz artists which aren't good ones in this case. Now,
>>if
>>>all of a sudden jazz music started to become popular again
>>I'd
>>>bet you that their would be more demands made of jazz
>>artists
>>>by the label to cater their music to whatever is popular.
>Or
>>>if you're an independent HipHop artist, lets see how pure
>>you
>>>are once you get signed to a major label and they tell you
>>>they want you to make records that sound like Lil Wayne or
>>>whoever and lets see how "pure" you remain then or if you
>>have
>>>the courage to buck the system.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Those are pure artist, who are in the "music system",no ?
>And
>>John Legend, too.
>>
>>silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk
>>http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/
>>
>>"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.
>>
>>He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.
>>
>>R.I.P Jamie Hubley
>


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41. "hahaha... yeah this is some bullshit. lol smh "Oxygen tank" ???"
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lol

Quest=Maxx?

  

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77. "Questlove be slurping that juice ever heard of RObert S.Kelly?"
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lets see Kellz works non stop and has classics in two different eras adn you got Mumblo still selling a fantasy.

Mumblo outta be on Wallstreet with all the Hot air ballon dreams he still is trying to sell,

nobody cares about no Washed up has been hit less jive turkey that was afraid of his own shadow and couldn't hang and just choked.

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99. "WOOFWOOFWOOFWOOFWOOF!!!!"
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What the blood claaat ???

  

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156. "sadly for D & fans his take is actually much closer to true than Quest's"
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and I say that as a guy who wanted D to win.

  

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188. "if the dude ain't got it in him then go to the church and sing there"
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leave this alone if you can't cope and stop jiving with all this Pt Barnum routine.

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51. "OKP Fight!"
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n/m



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23. "Nigga need to be on the Maury Povich show"
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these niggas don't have the talent level for the shit they want to do
that article sounded like about every other nigga that's on the corner asking for a dollar, and singing the same song

  

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54. "On a sidenote, and *a sneak peek spoiler*...."
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.......that shit with D,Angie Stone and Vivica Fox........booooooooooooooooooooooo !!! That's all i'm gonna say lol !!!

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120. "Oh yeah... that was one of the things that made me LAUGH"
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like... "damn, they dogged her like that?"

I knew rappers used to get on him about that, but LMAO.

  

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69. "Thoroughly enjoyed it, that's that dude!"
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Somehow I felt a connection, read the article in a local bookstore, sitting on the floor..

It's cool he can talk to the press again, and give off a smolder in the live set..you good son..I just pray he can hunker down with afewtrused associates and deliver another "hard times" soundtrack..

just me though..peace to D

*Formerly known as OKP "Nathaniel"

  

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73. "RE: Thoroughly enjoyed it, that's that dude!"
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Sounds to me that Darkness hit the nail on the head in this discussion. Quest mentioning Zappa like that makes it almost comedy.

The article to me was just another cog in the machine. People in the industry wanting D to come back and save the industry for everyone else. They're putting undue pressure on him. Just let him be him and stop worrying what the hell everyone else has to say. And i agree, all the Marvin Gaye dream shit needs to stop. 2 albums deep in more than a decade?? Come on man. Let the brother get his feet under himself as a man this time around.

If they keep building up this fabricated legend & persona, they should remember that only D has to actually "live up to it".


Princeguy reviews:

"No pretentiousness.

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Sometimes, a movie is just a movie. You work hard for your money.

The decision is yours.

See and enjoy what YOU like."

  

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75. "RE: Thoroughly enjoyed it, that's that dude!"
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>
>If they keep building up this fabricated legend & persona,
>they should remember that only D has to actually "live up to
>it".
>


exactly, its the pressure to be some soul savior that's killing his career, he should just stop giving interviews and people need to stop all this savior talk and he should just release an ep or a few online singles, tour non stop, experiment, take some risks, have fun with the music and work it out on the stage.

dude

  

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78. "GQ truly has fallen off when they gotta dig the grave for interviews"
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who is checking for a Choke Artist? 1)

Constipated Mumbling and on some Spinal Tap I'm going to make your musical fantasy come true and alive 2)

R.kelly would run this turkey back to a Popeyes in a minute and has basically 3)

any turkey saying that Mumblo is the last important African American Artist obviously has lost there hood pass long ago 4)

if Mumblo is So gifted how come it ain't presented yet? 5)

this turkey been recording tracks and ain't got no money cuts and is stuck in a time warp. 2Pac done performed on stage again since the last time this turkey has barely appeared Live. 6)

Yeah Maxwell got him beat and Lauyrn Hill did as well, if D'angelo had any juice he could have been a real threat,instead of being a Pop Up Video Milk Carton of what ever happen to? 7)

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79. "RE: GQ truly has fallen off when they gotta dig the grave for interviews"
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DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNN @ the 2Pac one.

  

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91. "waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa (c) maxxx"
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100. "WOOFWOOFWOOFWOOFWOOF!!!!"
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What the blood claaat ???

  

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115. "lmao @ #6"
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holy shit

  

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157. "LMAO at the 2pac line !"
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160. "Actually, it's testament to how good D'angelo is. "
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On the dock of that bay serving a life sentence,even if Im going to hell Im gonna make an entrance

  

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162. "this entire post makes no sense smh"
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grassrootsphilosopher

  

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172. "the turkey choked that is the bottom line"
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yeah it makes no sense how you are presented as a R&B savior one minute and the next minute you turn into a Chip and Dale dancer the next and then you are still hearing voices and still selling hype.

D'angelo outta go ahead and be on Donald Trump's the Apprentice because he has the wolf tickets on lock in here. lawd have mercy this turkey got some heads still thinking he didn't choke.

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177. "media still checkin for him like he the shit though..telling"
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On the dock of that bay serving a life sentence,even if Im going to hell Im gonna make an entrance

  

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178. "a comeback story is always wanted and admired isn't it though?"
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D'angelo got about as much chance at a comeback as Dan Quayle winning a Spelling Bee contest.

Media got money in the wrong places as usual.

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243. "lolz"
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nm

  

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80. "pure artist my pinky toe, all in the system"
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D'mumblo needs to go get a hit from somewhere.

maybe do a commerical for Guitar Hero or something or appear on Glee, but that turkey ain't done a thing but stand around and Front like he was bout it bout it 1)

right about now D'angelo is running neck and neck with Marquez Houston, Omarion and Sisqo in terms of his place in music and Steve Wonder can't find that in braile either its way down the list.

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92. "waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa (c) maxxx"
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81. "man, come back couple days later and this shit explodes!"
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d' still brings a lot of attention and passion here. that's a good thing.

D'ANGELO beat tape PART 2: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/album/dangelo-beat-tape-2020

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85. "tell Questlove that Blake Grffin was about to dunk to "brown sugar""
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however he never had have heard of it nor the artist so I guess R.kelly's "I beleive I can fly" was good enough to do and Win.



ole Cranyberry jar head turkey saying that some Mumbling choking, one note johnny is the last important African-American Artist?? HA!HA!HA!HA!

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87. "*scratches head*"
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95. "most folks don't remember D'angelo"
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he is sorta like Alien to alot of folks. folks forget.

but hey R.Kelly could use a new character in trapped in the closet series and D would be a good fit the long forgotten singer.

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102. "WOOFWOOFWOOFWOOFWOOF!!!!"
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What the blood claaat ???

  

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104. "Old Man Outta touch. "
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It's cool that you don't like him. But bring up D'angelo in barbershops cats will ask what happened to him, not who he is. Stop hatin. If Kellz had a GQ interview and folks postin about it i'm not gonna go outta my way to shit on dude.

  

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134. "Blake Griffin ain't won no dunk contest with D angelo records"
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alot of folks only remember D angelo fron the "untitled" video as it is.

done been on a Milk Carton as long almost to many as a Danny Boy follow up album

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182. "Dut duh duh. Lets make dumb comparisons."
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You gonna be really mad if D actually puts out an album.

  

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187. "now that was funny if that turkey actual makes a record?"
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what is doing with his free time playing frisbee or something? turkey outta have something way by now.

if D'angelo would come to his senses and let RObert S. Kelly write and Produce that comeback cut he would be alright, Kellz can bring him back.

but left to his own devices it just doesn't work.

if he comes back with a Record ain't that his job?? HA!HA!HA!

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94. "waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa (c) maxxx"
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101. "^Crazy old mutt, barking at the traffic WOOFWOOFWOOFWOOFWOOFWOOF !!!"
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What the blood claaat ???

  

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103. "great read. glad he's back"
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dude is tough.
youtube clips of the euro run looked legit.
"another life" is a winner
stoked.

  

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105. "lol@thinking he was 'next to go. he needs to stop that fatalism."
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seems like hes still dangerously in love with musician myths.

i sympathise with all the stuff about pressure, not knowing what to do in the current climate and so on, but all the stuff about dying rather than actually TRYING to releasing music seems almost like an easier, lazier option. if he wants to just be a recluse, he should do it and take himself out of the industry if he thinks that would be easier to cope with. you cant call yourself a recording artist when you dont have anything to show for it. all the perfectionism is great, but it seems totally self defeating. someone needs to get this man to a therapist fast.

as far as quest, i love the guy but he is basically dangelos greatest publicist. ie you cant take anything he says about dangelo seriously. i mean, dangelos playing like zappa? lol. its just hyperbole. great, and funny hyperbole, but hyperbole nonetheless. next he'll be saying dangelos playing bass like jaco. and drums like john bonham and elvin jones. or keys like herbie hancock and vladimir horowitz (on acid).

it doesnt matter though - this is dangelo. the greatest thing about dangelo is that people love to believe any bit of hype they hear about him! no wonder he doesnt want to release any music. hes shit scared it will deflate the myth. could he EVER live up to that? (then again, it seems like he could play guitar like madonna and people would still applaud it, which makes his non-activity even stranger - doesnt he know his fans will eat up anything he does?)

  

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108. "he was wrong for leaving pregnant angie in the limo for vivica"
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im kinda over it til we get some new product. shirtless or not, marvin gaye reincarnated or not, just shut up & play dude

  

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140. "Very wrong for that shit. I was quite disappointed with that."
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>im kinda over it til we get some new product. shirtless or
>not, marvin gaye reincarnated or not, just shut up & play
>dude
>


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198. "RE: he was wrong for leaving pregnant angie in the limo for vivica"
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what's this about? what happened?

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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110. "D' threads make me feel psychic..."
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I know what's going to go down before I even click in, down to the AFKAP/Warren arguments, lol...

-thebigfunk

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111. "when will ppl realise that erykah was actually the real genius?"
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obv she doesnt fit the great male genius archetype, so thats one reason, but shes not only been more consistent (apart from the last album), shes stayed touring or making music, made more interesting music, retained her personality even when trying new ideas, and generally stayed in touch with reality, despite everyone thinking she was the weirdest/hippiest of everyone from that generation. anyway, shes stuck it out. dangelo meanwhile hasnt. erykah is actually more of a musical and political rebel than dangelo too, for all this talk of his apparent non-compromise. dangelo made one political song, devils pie. erykahs made a dozen.

  

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112. "^^^underrated talk^^^"
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>obv she doesnt fit the great male genius archetype, so thats
>one reason, but shes not only been more consistent (apart from
>the last album), shes stayed touring or making music, made
>more interesting music, retained her personality even when
>trying new ideas, and generally stayed in touch with reality,
>despite everyone thinking she was the weirdest/hippiest of
>everyone from that generation. anyway, shes stuck it out.
>dangelo meanwhile hasnt. erykah is actually more of a musical
>and political rebel than dangelo too, for all this talk of his
>apparent non-compromise. dangelo made one political song,
>devils pie. erykahs made a dozen.

I don't know if I would call her a "genius" per se, but yeah... she has been a bolder, more consistent, more durable, more flexible and more interesting artist than D'Angelo and than most of her peers.

(Even if I personally have not loved most of her new music)

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116. "obv, i dont think d is a genius either"
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i was just using the g-word relatively

but ive gotten that feeling of someone touched by raw inspiration more from erykah than dangelo, though thats probably also just a difference in approach - hes much more controlled and analytical, like the roots, while erykah and someone like bilal are more intuitive

and even though i was on the fence about it for a long time, nu amerykah was way more forward looking, riskier and original than anything dangelo has made, or from the sounds of the new songs, is likely to make in a while

  

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117. "I hear ya."
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And I feel ya.

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113. "I agree with this wholeheartedly"
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Her resume is much better than D's too. With that said, I do hope that D bounces back with a great album.

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123. "so it seems that the meta-narrative w/D is"
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that he has all this talent, but he seems afraid of it.

  

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126. "D'Angelo is the Lebron James of.....nahhhhhh I won't go there lmao"
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127. "I was about to type that and backspaced for real... LMAO"
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but you know what really got me in that article?

ROBERT CHRISTGAU called dude "R&B Jesus"!

I was like "WTF?!" and looked for that review.

  

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128. "At least Lebron gets his ass on the court and displays his talents "
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We could compare if Wade saw him dunk from the other end of the court to the other
And Bron refuses to show anyone he can do that and cuss Wades ass out for seeing it
Seriously who in the fuck does that?
Definitely not the yoda's....prince @ the rrhof showing his ass anyone?

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135. " D'Angelo is the Vince Carter there I fixed it"
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and he been stuck in 2001 there I fixed it. Lebron is the baddest player going he just needs to finish, Vince Carter was the baddest hype going along with tracy mcgrady and well...........

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147. "^^^indeed accurate"
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183. "Yeah that's about right. "
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I agree with you on that maine.

  

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129. "Does anyone have the xxl article?"
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I can almost swear that they said he knew and could play ALL of Miles' shit.

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I'll check for it later.

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133. "I think what 15 meant by pure artist is that..."
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If D could make the music and get it to the people without any of the celebrity or fame aspects of it, he would do it.

They literally don't make artist like that anymore. Any kid growing up in this tweet, facebook, everybody's a star age who have no concept of privacy wouldn't be able to comprehend separating music from fame.

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155. "Hey 15 what do you mean "pure artist", or was that being sarcastic"
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>If D could make the music and get it to the people without
>any of the celebrity or fame aspects of it, he would do it.
>
>They literally don't make artist like that anymore. Any kid
>growing up in this tweet, facebook, everybody's a star age who
>have no concept of privacy wouldn't be able to comprehend
>separating music from fame.
>
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>to the blue sky asking 'why me?'" -Blu

  

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174. "R.Kelly is a Pure Artist and I tell Queslove that to his face"
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matter of fact Robert is more of a Pure Artist than D'angelo will ever dream to be.

all the concepts that Robert does and always working, writing and creating always on the grind and yeah ARRUH is Crazy and yet he still goes to work.

Arruh lets his music do his talking period.

D'angelo is like some Tim Burton Myth created and the poor turkey choked and always got more pleas than John Edwards has right about now.

D'angelo going to be doing that same ole timey muzak and mumbling and choking again with no money tracks and begging for a fatburger.

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136. "Fear of hype and yet with every year more hype"
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because of the time spent away. talk about fucking yourself over. just put out music and STFU!!
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138. "Great article but..."
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...let's face it, he won't make any mainstream impact from what I've heard of the new stuff - that's cool though if he doesn't want to. What I don't understand is how he's gotten by financially all this time since the end of the Voodoo era - Voodoo didn't really sell enough to support him, particularly in the midst of his crack habit. I know there were some major studio bills being run up when he started recording again - the studio would be block booked, musicians/studio staff would be there...but D wouldn't show up for months, too strung out on crack.

And re the guitar playing, maybe he just didn't feel comfortable letting go - he did seem stilted in the YouTube clips I saw, even affecting the fluidity of his rhythm playing.

He redeemed himself in the piano/vocal segments - that was some special shit.

I feel he'll have an uphill battle with this album - all that weight and expectation placed by others on his shoulders can't be helping when he hasn't released anything in 12 years. The last one was also out when illegal uploading/downloading wasn't as much of a decimating issue as it is now - although the demographic who'll be checking for him are mainly used to buying music still.

  

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139. "I KNOW WHO YOU ARE NOW!!!"
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*facepalm*
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143. "Oh really ? speak on it lol !!!"
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>*facepalm*
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>thing, a musician." Miles Davis
>
>"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."


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142. "on topic though"
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>...let's face it, he won't make any mainstream impact from
>what I've heard of the new stuff

This is the thing. I haven't even heard much, but the mainstream climate just ain't right for D'. He'll be lucky if he can get it at Blacksummernights status. But the thing that's so crazy is like I said above, him allowing himself to build all this hype around it which extends out to the fans, and only feeds his own fears. Like you wanna play it on the humble, don't hype yourself out of the game.


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145. "I said that before and will say it again"
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He will have no choice but to prostitute himself if he wants to sell records and recoup
Real talk....Voodoo really didn't have any radio $ cuts
Untitled saved that record

In today's age of electronic r&b and oontz...how in the fuck will he get exposure in a way the label will see a profit?
I highly doubt he will get promo outside of the "grown and sexy" market
And he better be real careful cuz that crowd and guitars don't mesh well LOL

And before someone counters
This is a business and if there's no profit...heads will roll...trust!
and if the label didn't care they wouldn't date mention Grammy consideration.


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146. "^all of this, and more^ speak Rev !!!!"
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>He will have no choice but to prostitute himself if he wants
>to sell records and recoup
>Real talk....Voodoo really didn't have any radio $ cuts
>Untitled saved that record
>
>In today's age of electronic r&b and oontz...how in the fuck
>will he get exposure in a way the label will see a profit?
>I highly doubt he will get promo outside of the "grown and
>sexy" market
>And he better be real careful cuz that crowd and guitars don't
>mesh well LOL
>
>And before someone counters
>This is a business and if there's no profit...heads will
>roll...trust!
>and if the label didn't care they wouldn't date mention Grammy
>consideration.
>
>
>


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191. "maxwell still sells. he can make a good living touring"
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(if he wanted to actually hit the road more often)

erykah makes a good living touring too

and her records still sell

the generation that remembers and loves dangelo will still buy his music

i dont think you have to worry about that

most of the 90s artists are still the biggest sellers these days cos their fans arent of this generation

  

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144. "Yeah...how is this dude making $ and..."
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What idiot is funding this shit?
I've seen plenty of artists get dropped for less

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151. "Rahsaan, anyone ? MCA dropped him like a bad habit............."
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>What idiot is funding this shit?
>I've seen plenty of artists get dropped for less

......but it all worked in his favor, in the end.

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161. "Check this Quest and give it to your boy D"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S90Ggix8ju4&feature=related

Around 16:50. Even muthafucking Prince is waiting on shit from D'Angelo, and that's from 2004. If that ain't enough motivation for any artist to get off their asses and release the music, then I don't know what is.

  

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163. "D'Angelo feature - XXL #3, 1998"
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164. "Ain't nothing changed"
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I laughed at the entire article
Dancing like James Brown
Mastering catalogs
Multiple instruments like the sax?
That really had me
All I could picture was D playing the sax with a kazoo a la Hustle man

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165. "Mofos been claiming that I was lying"
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when I kept saying that D was being sold as playing guitar, bass and sax more than 10 years ago... and now we're told that he just learned to play guitar after Voodoo? And what happened to the sax?

Cock and bull stories, man... The revolution will be fantasized.

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166. "Thanks for putting it up"
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You've been spot on with your observations
And it's not hate based either
I've said before we all want this cat to "win" but his crew makes it so hard for him to with the extras they put on shit

And LMAO at the dalai lama of soul. Thats a huge disgrace to the DL!!

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167. "so what, you know for a fact that he can't play those instruments?"
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I've seen him play guitar and bass. Never seen him play sax but that doesn't mean he can't play the instrument, perhaps he's not good enough or feels comfortable enough to play it on his cds. Anyway, how many saxophones do you hear in r&b tracks nowadays anyway lol?

Aretha Franklin was a trained pianist and she NEVER played piano on any of her songs.

Tony Braxton also plays the piano but Babyface decided it was best that she was marketed as only a vocalist.

Miles Davis said out of his own mouth that Prince is an excellent trumpet player and could play "Tutu" but I have never heard Prince play a wind instrument but that doesn't mean he can't play the trumpet.

I find it funny how you're trying to act as if his ability to play different instruments is all made up for whatever reason smh

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169. "Say whaaaaaa b/w c'mon son"
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Aretha played piano on almost ALL of her records

When/where is this Miles quote about prince playing Tutu on the trumpet?

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171. "Thanks for calling bullshit before me"
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>Aretha played piano on almost ALL of her records

I was actually about to go pull the credits from like 30 of her albums then I figured what's the use?

>When/where is this Miles quote about prince playing Tutu on
>the trumpet?

Yeah, this sound like some nonsense to me too... I know P started messing with sax a bit in the 90s, but I have never heard anything about him playing trumpet. And Miles would definitely not praise anybody he saw playing his instrument on a casual basis... He was pretty bitchy about that shit, actually.

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180. "the thought of a miles' blindfold test on that..."
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Has me over here cracking up

miles: turn this shit off...who the fuck let their little niece play the trumpet?

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184. "LMAO!!"
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>miles: turn this shit off...who the fuck let their little
>niece play the trumpet?

  

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210. "Uh I guess I should've clarified that when Aretha debuted on Columbia"
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that the label execs didn't allow her to play the piano - it wasn't until she signed w/Atlantic and Jerry Wexler began to exploit her abilities as a pianist and suggested she play piano in her songs, including her early hit records on Atlantic, even though many ppl at the label didn't think that was a good idea since she wasn't a virtuoso pianist but having said that, there are many ppl who are fans of Aretha that didn't know she's a pianist because even later in her career around the lates 70s and early 80s she didn't play piano on her records.


>Yeah, this sound like some nonsense to me too... I know P
>started messing with sax a bit in the 90s, but I have never
>heard anything about him playing trumpet. And Miles would
>definitely not praise anybody he saw playing his instrument on
>a casual basis... He was pretty bitchy about that shit,
>actually.

Actually he was playing the sax well before the 90s, he took lessons as kid but didn't stick w/it. Maceo and Sonny T. have both vouched for him as a "really good" saxophonist. My point was just because I or you have never seen him in concerts or in video footage playing a woodwind instrument doesn't mean he can't play any horn instruments and the same applies to D'angelo. No one questions whether D'angelo is a multi instrumentalist...and I'm basing this off ppl like Questo, Angie Stone, Prince, and Raphael Saadiq who have talked abt the different instruments he plays.

As far as Miles is concerned, there are stories (maybe even urban myths) that have circulated for YEARS abt Prince writing songs for Miles and even played on some material that he has NEVER released to the public.

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>Aretha Franklin was a trained pianist and she NEVER played
>piano on any of her songs.

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179. "turkey still ain't got no new songs"
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he can play instruments or pull a Milli Vannelli for all i care, however where are the songs? he ain't got none thats why

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186. "waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa (c) maxxx"
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168. "Has anyone seen the female reaction to his "return" ??"
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Absolutely none have been about his music
They've all went something like this

Jameeka: let's hope he keeps that weight off
Talonda: mmmmmmm girrrrrrl let's hope for an untitled 2.0


Absolutely NO talk about the music!!
They could care less about his guitar playing LOL

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173. "Briam Mcknight got more chicks talking that Mumblo"
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Professior Mcknight going to show you how it works, D'angelo stuck in a time warp and scratching his head trying to remember who he is. Poor turkey.

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176. "Jameeka doe? LMAO"
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181. "That was an actual convo"
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Pulked from a friend of mines FB page
The names were changed to protect the innocent
I only changes a few letters lol

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211. "damn..."
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but you right tho. Every woman I've talked to just wanted to know if he still looked like Jabba the Hut.

  

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185. "lol... not sure what that means...."
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he hasn't released any music for anyone to discuss...

plus ..not to be sexist, but it's rare for females to have in depth discussions about an artists actual music..

not really sure what point that proves....

and I'm not sure some chick actually said they wanted untitled 2.0...

lol..

  

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189. "that means that the turkey is only remembered as a stripper"
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basically a Chip and Dale act and choked. he presented that image and got Sucrred and ran away.

i know alot of women who know there music and D'angelo had his critics on both sides of the fence.

funny thing is that a turkey like Marquez Houston ran with that idea and bought a little run with it. now how sad is that?

that "Untitled" video is one of the last things that most people remember about D'angelo and Bro Man while comical made a interesting point.because you gotta have a song or something to be remembered for and its been since when again??

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194. "^^ dead on it^^"
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199. "chicken heads don't make the world go round..."
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No music lover with any sense would give any value to what chicks like that think about music. I mean it would be super funny style for me to take into consideration what some superficial broad thinks about music when it comes to me analyzing music.


Oh and maxx.... At least d' was naked in a video by himself. Not with a 13 year old. That's how your boy gonna be remembered.

  

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200. "Well WC"
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You missed the point
If these chicken heads/broads are tightening their weaves for his return
What 'chu think is going to happen at these shows?
Per Quest and 'nem that crowd was a major part of the problem
And my $$ is on that they will be in full force at these shows screaming:

A)play some Zappa guitar god

B) we luh you Jesse!!!

Or

C) Take that shit off nigga!!!!

Of course my $ is on C!!!

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202. "RE: Well WC"
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>You missed the point
>If these chicken heads/broads are tightening their weaves for
>his return
>What 'chu think is going to happen at these shows?
>Per Quest and 'nem that crowd was a major part of the problem
>
>And my $$ is on that they will be in full force at these shows
>screaming:
>
We don't have to guess about the shows.... He just finished doing a bunch a shows and I'm focused on what type of funk is happening on stage. D' and them didn't adjust the voodoo show for some broads.... They brought funky music. Period. Who gives a fukk what them chicks think.





>A)play some Zappa guitar god
>
>B) we luh you Jesse!!!
>
>Or
>
>C) Take that shit off nigga!!!!
>
>Of course my $ is on C!!!

Again man.... Who really gives a fukk. Its about what's happening on stage with the music.

What you not gonna go to the concert because of what motivates other people??? That's just crazy.




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203. "Ain't got nuthin to do with me or u"
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You and I can give a shit about that
But the point I'm trying to make about this is that HE obviously does give a shit
And if that audience is gearing up for his return
It could be Voodoo tour all over again
Europe and the Us are two different audiences
He HAS to do Untitled and deal with that shit that freaked him out before in the states this go round or take the chance of that audience booing that dude back to his cave.

If he wants to sell records and recoup his label's investment, he has no other choice but to take his shirt off and play a role that he's obviously not comfortable playing.


You have to know that outside of folks like us, he is only remembered for THAT video
Sad but true



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218. "yo..you're way over thinking this..."
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when D'Angelo been booed????

the voodoo concert was funky as hell..

the euro shows he just did was funky as hell...

he bout to drop the album and do some shows here in the us..

all this talk about what other people are thinking and all this is just way off base and trying to make a story that honestly doesn't exist...

The only female D'Angelo was tripping off of during this hiatus first name starts with an H and thankfully he was able to overcome her and is alive and back to doing what he loves to do...

**shrug**

  

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209. "WC Kellz got songs as long as you type words beleive that"
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don't be all salty because D'angelo went from Chip and Dale to doing a David Allen Grier in Living skit now on his tour and in that GQ thing with his I got a cover song here it goes wanna here it?

i told you last year that R.Kelly is Shaq to D'angelo's Stanley ROberts one of them you know the other you need to google to remember

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214. "Kellz being a pedophile should mean you should avoid speaking"
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on who was naked in a music video maxx..

that's all I'm saying.

  

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219. "typicla hater can't talk about no music because well Kellz"
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got records left and right all over the place, meanwhile D'angelo got a few records and ain't been heard from since Sisqo had a career,however to each and your own

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192. "the female reaction will always be that"
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the thing thats strange about dangelos fear of only being wanted for his body is that he was never NOT taken seriously as a musician. women might have loved that video but he was always respected as a musician/artist too. hes not tyrese.

  

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216. "RE: the female reaction will always be that"
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The Essence Fest will be a big challenge for him. You KNOW the women are certainly going to be expecting him to get half butt naked.

I've been to the Essence Fest before. They will have a bunch of singles waiting.



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190. "I just came in here to say..."
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I want a studio quality version of "The Charade".

And I'm out.



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193. "which label(s) paid for the recording of the dozens of new songs?"
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why doesn't the label(s) just put the songs out? it owns them, after all. or does it?

fuck you.

  

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Maybe, they don't think they can promote it w/o him being a part of the game.

  

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205. "*check names/post counts of people who think d is overrated..."
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...and leaves*



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>who do they listen to? i want
>to be down.

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207. "Imma go look for Larry's ass"
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He does know the lyrics to Long Stroke very well LOL

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>He does know the lyrics to Long Stroke very well LOL


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212. "GQ just put up video of D playin' guitar (LINK)"
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My apologies if it's been posted...

http://gq.tumblr.com/post/23560236653/dangelo-plugs-in-electric-guitar-video

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