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Quence makes a great point:
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.11627/title.consequence-talks-good-music-release-day-reveals-native-tongues-lost-lp
"I don’t get the accolades of being in A Tribe Called Quest, as being like a solidified member. And I rapped on more records on one album than the fourth member. And I love Jarobi, it’s no him. But…I done came up with “Stressed Out.” And that’s a big record for they catalog… So you can’t negate my contribution and throw that shit under the rug like you didn’t eat off of it… This shit boils down to what you bring to the table as a artist, and that’s where I don’t feel it’s fair to discredit what I do."
basically Jarobi had minimal input on 1 lb and he didn't rhyme at all but he's a core member and in the documentary and will probaly be inducted in the HOF when the are inducted
Cons on the other hand had his own solo "The chase" and was featured prominently on BRL yet isnt discussed and wasnt in the movie
you may not like Quence or BRL but he is speaking sense here
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BTW the article also speaks to the Beef between Phife and Tip surrounding his inclusion in the group, NT supposed lp and a few more things:
HipHopDX: I don’t wanna start off on any sort of negative note, but since I spoke with him, you know I wanna get your response to Phife’s claim in his HipHopDX feature interview that Q-Tip never told him that you were formally joining A Tribe Called Quest back in the mid-‘90s, and that he thought Tip was trying to replace him with you.
Consequence: My first look that I ever did with was “The Chase, Part II” . I was still in high school, fam. I played no part in the decision making process of what they did. Like, I’m a kid in high school. I’m a kid in high school who’s been rappin’ his ass off, been in ciphers on Linden Boulevard with the likes of Run - when Reverend Run was Run… I’m rappin’ against him. I’m rappin’ against Busta Rhymes… A lot of people don’t know how I even got into Tribe. They know because of I’m Q-Tip’s cousin, but it wasn’t like, yo, I’ma just scoop you and you just gonna be the roadie/rapper. It wasn’t even that kind of party.
You asked a question, and he chose to answer it the way he chose to answer it… I’ve spoken to Phife. I didn’t feel belittled , I just felt like, if you gonna let it be known, let it be known. Don’t pick apart the story... It’s not a fair depiction of what I contributed to the group. I was pulled in to contribute, not to be nobody’s dissolution.
When the idea floated around of me actually coming the group, it wasn’t just like, yo, he’s in. I actually had did about three or four records . The one people know, that they heard, was the “Glamour & Glitz” .
Coming off of , what leverage do I have to be in the group? I’m in high school . me and Q-Tip are not like same-age cousins, where it’s like, yo, you owe me…or, I used to whip niggas ass for you back in the day so you gotta put me in your group. The shit wasn’t that kind of party. Your skill set had to be at a level where it was like, yo, this muthafucka is ill. The cherry on top is that we family, but this is a business. It was business for them. It was more business for them than it was for me back then… Nobody snuck me . I’m not Elian Gonzalez in Cuba.
What I ain’t like about was that, as much as me and Phife communicate – Like, me and Phife, prior to that interview had been communicating throughout the year… My man Litro, the Tribe road manager, had thrown a diabetes charity event on behalf of Phife … I showed up, Q-Tip showed up, Ali showed up… The scheduling of the show didn’t go accordingly. It was kinda a situation where everybody didn’t wanna perform because the way that the acts kinda like went out of order. But I was the one – I, Consequence, and I’m going to take credit for this – who said to Q-Tip and Ali Shaheed Muhammad, “Listen, I’m gonna go out there and do ‘The Good, The Bad, The Ugly’ and y’all gonna come with me. ‘Cause that’s our man, and this is his event, and it’s gonna look crazy if we don’t go out there as A Tribe Called Quest.”
Now mind you, I didn’t get an invite to the Hip Hop Honors , I had to muthafuckin’ finagle my way on to … And I ain’t never even been one to complain. I don’t go to the press. And I never said, 'fuck Tribe Called Quest' when I left . I never was like, yo, muthafuckas did me like this... I ain’t never been like that… Because with me, I always appreciated the opportunity. It was an opportunity of a lifetime for a kid, like I said who was still in high school. Regardless of whoever my family was, they all became my family.
Don’t think for a minute me and Phife ain’t talk about how I got into the group. Phife knows good and well me and him spent a whole summer in Atlanta in 1995, because Tribe and Jive was going through basically a strike. Beats, Rhymes And Life initially was supposed to come out in 1995 and it didn’t come out till 1996 because they had to their budget… That was a two-month process that occurred from July ‘til about Labor Day… I went to me and Phife got cool. he expressed to me how he wasn’t fully in-the-loop . And I was like, “Yo dog, I ain’t here for that. I ain’t here to take nobody’s place. Nigga, I look up to you. Like, you a nigga from my hood who been on TV” - when TV was like the only outlet. Like, “Nigga, you was on , nigga. You Phife, nigga!” And when it was told to me what his discrepancy with Tip was I was straight-up honest with the man like, “Yo duke, you might wanna do your own thing.” And that’s me going against blood!
DX: Let me just interject here having spoken to him, to Phife, for both his feature and when he followed-up with some additional clarification on those comments, I believe he was sincere when he said there was no malicious intent directed towards you with what he said.
Consequence: You know, here’s my thing, and I hope that you put this in print, my thing is that we’re all family. It’s no disrespect to you as a journalist, but certain business is just family business. So…that’s why I emphasized to you I never said, "Fuck A Tribe Called Quest," ever. You never heard me say that. And in a lot of instances the average person woulda took that stance.
don’t get the accolades of being in A Tribe Called Quest, as being like a solidified member. And I rapped on more records on one album than the fourth member. And I love Jarobi, it’s no him. But…I done came up with “Stressed Out.” And that’s a big record for they catalog… So you can’t negate my contribution and throw that shit under the rug like you didn’t eat off of it… This shit boils down to what you bring to the table as a artist, and that’s where I don’t feel it’s fair to discredit what I do. by him saying that nobody got Tribe, I understand the point he was trying to make, but I felt like that was family business.
DX: So Rapaport didn’t ask you about any of this ; you didn’t sit down and talk with him about any of this?
Consequence: He asked me about some of the shit. you know what we ended up talking about? We ended up talking about the situation when they tried to put the Native Tongues back together and I flipped out about that shit… At that time Tribe was the most successful out of the three groups . Now mind you, I applaud De La Soul and I salute them muthafuckas… De La to me, out of everybody, has continued regardless . Treach tried to whip ass in The Palladium them muthafuckas dealt with they shit and they continued to forge forward no matter what they all wanted to do . And I applaud that shit to this day… it wasn’t De La , it was really more or less the muthafucka Afrika and Mike Gee . I don’t fuck with Afrika because of the whole cross-dressing shit, but the nigga Mike Gee, we see each other in Harlem, and it’s all good. But back then, I couldn’t really understand it because how I looked at the shit was like…this music shit is really about what you do right now, and what you plan on doing. It ain’t about what you did already… So, back then it was a situation where the Jungle Brothers felt like, “All y’all my sons.” And they kinda had a right to feel whatever – they was the ones who jumped out first – but you cannot try to disregard evolution… So they coming to the studio as if Tribe ain’t platinum. In my eyes, and from my point of view . Now from they point of view it might’ve been like, yo, these are our little niggas. But from my point of view these the muthafuckas putting me on, and you ain’t gonna come in here and disrespect them.
DX: So just to clarify, there was gonna be like a Native Tongues album and –
Consequence: Tried many times. The conversation that you had with me and Phife is a spin-off of that shit. That’s why I was so disappointed in it. Because, that’s the curse of the Native Tongues … was trying to do was this, they was trying to reconfigure the shit… The three-headed monster that was Native Tongues essentially was Jungle Brothers, De La Soul, and A Tribe Called Quest. Each had different leader: Afrika , Posdnuos , Q-Tip … for all intents and purposes at this time I am in A Tribe Called Quest, ‘cause everyday I gotta come to the studio.
DX: So you’re saying that Jungle Brothers came in and they were just trying to monopolize the situation in terms of doing a reunion album and that just cut everything off?
Consequence: They were trying to…place order like they bank was like that. ‘Cause at the end of the day, you’re in somebody else’s session, holmes! And I got into an argument with Tribe about it. I was like, “Yo, y’all don’t even see it for what it is.” It comes out years later, Afrika talking shit about Tip in VIBE magazine . I seen that shit from back then! That the nigga wasn’t on shit, ‘cause you just talking. You ain’t gotta talk if you a big dog.
DX: So how real was an album, like a crew album, how realistic was that ever happening, or was it just in the talking stages and it just never got past that?
Consequence: I can’t even say. ‘Cause after that one incident I was done with that shit, I wasn’t paying no more attention to it. I continued to write Beats, Rhymes And Life. That’s what I continued to do. we got into it, I got into it with Tip about the shit. He took his stance was like, “Yo, you don’t know them like that…” I’m like, “Alright cool, I know what I’m telling you.” And that shit played out to fruition… coulda been stupid. It was supposed to be Busta, Large Professor, me, Mos , Tribe, De La, and Jungle. And the shit woulda been crazy.
DX: What about Black Sheep?
Consequence: I mean, they name got thrown around, but I don’t know if was ever like . But I know them right there, the people I named, all of us had shit coming out and it was all supposed to be crazy. But it was like…big bank kill little bank. Nigga, , you little bank, sit your little dumb-ass down somewhere and just be cool… Duke, let the shit play out. Be cool! You know what it’s like, it’s like Paid In Full, when Calvin came home: “You hot nigga, just take this pack and just let this muthafuckin’ money come in, nigga.” “Nah nigga, this my block. I don’t need your little man coming over there telling me how to run my block.”
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"Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores
thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?)
forced to serve-too broke to by freedom
the systematic rape of African culture has begun
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