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Wordman
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Tue May-08-12 02:03 AM

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"Anyone else think Kool Keith just missed MF DOOM-fandom?"


  

          

Anyone else think Kool Keith just missed MF DOOM-fandom - and just missed it?
Timing is everything.


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DOOM fandom needed keith though
May 08th 2012
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He never had anything as hipster beloved as Dr. Octagon.
May 08th 2012
2
yeah he seems like the bridge burning type
May 08th 2012
3
He dissed Kurt and then turned around and worked with him
May 08th 2012
5
True but I'd take dr octagon over any DOOM project
May 08th 2012
4
      O_O
May 08th 2012
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I dunno man I think Keith had all that before Doom existed
May 08th 2012
6
A lot of Kool Keith's success was Dan the Automator
May 08th 2012
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I've met Keith and out of all the rapper's I've met
May 08th 2012
8
Yeah dude is pretty chill. I think he's really in his own world so much
May 08th 2012
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      RE: Yeah dude is pretty chill. I think he's really in his own world so ...
May 08th 2012
10
Come on now
May 08th 2012
13
      That has nothing to do with the point.
May 08th 2012
14
Naw, Keith raps/rapped over terrible beats way too often
May 08th 2012
11
no...Doom is WAY more linear than Keith
May 08th 2012
12
kool keith cant rap
May 09th 2012
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AlBundy
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Tue May-08-12 02:20 AM

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1. "DOOM fandom needed keith though"
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im glad DOOM put out so much work in his legendary run, because the dude is pretty much done now.

i dont think they can top or even match madvillain with a sequel. leave it alone

  

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Madvillain 626
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Tue May-08-12 02:38 AM

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2. "He never had anything as hipster beloved as Dr. Octagon."
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Maybe if he kept dropping stuff like that with those kind of beats in the internet era, but most of his projects have trash beats plain and simple...

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AlBundy
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Tue May-08-12 03:14 AM

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3. "yeah he seems like the bridge burning type"
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nigga was dissing kutmasta kurt on some album with loudass garbage beats

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Tue May-08-12 07:22 AM

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5. "He dissed Kurt and then turned around and worked with him"
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again two different albums.

Keith's just odd like that.

I remember at one point he was dissing Automator and everyone assumed it was just Keith being bitter/crazy, but then a lot of other people called Dan out on being Grimey

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Tue May-08-12 05:45 AM

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4. "True but I'd take dr octagon over any DOOM project"
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astralblak
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Tue May-08-12 11:32 PM

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15. "O_O"
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6. "I dunno man I think Keith had all that before Doom existed"
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Keith had it popping from 1994 (Cenobites) to 1999 (Black Elvis/First Come First Serve). You could gather that he would have been bigger if the internet was a stronger force in that era, but on the flip the internet has allowed him to keep living off of music & shows 10+ years after his expiration date.

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Orbit_Established
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Tue May-08-12 12:01 PM

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7. "A lot of Kool Keith's success was Dan the Automator"
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Tue May-08-12 12:02 PM by Orbit_Established

  

          



Doom's style is more adaptable and he has more
total control of his sound, unlike Keith who was
a great lyricist but really needed Dan to craft
the sound

Doom's sound is Doom's sound. Niggas work with him
and help him, but its more characteristically him.

And Doom is also more authentic because his personality
in real life is actually like that; Doom seems to be as
genuine an example of an artist using music
to deal with themselves and their issues as I've seen.
Daniel Dumile needs Doom.

Keith was just a bugged out creative nigga who worked
with a cat who made dope, funky beats. Different animal.

  

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8. "I've met Keith and out of all the rapper's I've met"
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he's about as nice and patient as they get. Definately one of the most humble(behind Pep Love and Bootie Brown)So, I doubt it has anything to do with his real personality.

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9. "Yeah dude is pretty chill. I think he's really in his own world so much"
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Tue May-08-12 12:54 PM by micMajestic

          

>he's about as nice and patient as they get. Definately one of
>the most humble(behind Pep Love and Bootie Brown)So, I doubt
>it has anything to do with his real personality.

that there isn't a lot that people can do to get on his nerves. Like if he had to sit and sign 1000 autographs he'd actually look closely at each fan and try to figure out which animal they resemble the most.

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10. "RE: Yeah dude is pretty chill. I think he's really in his own world so ..."
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HAHAHAHAHAHA


>that there isn't a lot that people can do to get on his
>nerves. Like if he had to sit and sign 1000 autographs he'd
>actually look closely at each fan and try to figure out which
>animal they resemble the most.

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Tue May-08-12 09:49 PM

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13. "Come on now"
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Let's not act like he didn't have a bunch of critical success with Ultramagnetic and on a good portion of his albums with Kutmaster Kurt on the Beats

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Orbit_Established
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Tue May-08-12 10:33 PM

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14. "That has nothing to do with the point. "
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>Let's not act like he didn't have a bunch of critical success
>with Ultramagnetic and on a good portion of his albums with
>Kutmaster Kurt on the Beats

What in blue fuck does that have to do with what I said?

  

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Ishwip
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Tue May-08-12 02:40 PM

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11. "Naw, Keith raps/rapped over terrible beats way too often"
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I think even if the time his albums came out were shifted back a few years so as to have dropped more so during the Internet age he still would have killed his momentum with some of the projects he released.

DOOM, on the other hand, along with his own appealing dusty loop beats, was rockin' over Madlib, Danger Mouse, Count Bass D, Jake One, Dilla, RJD2, and Jneiro Jarel tracks, among others.
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

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12. "no...Doom is WAY more linear than Keith"
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and Doom ain't the most linear dude in the world.

Keith's schtick, from Ultramagnetic to Octagon to his brief PORN obsession...just didn't come with the full animal like Doom...who is able to produce his own material and keep them thematically focused.

Keith just be all over the place.

people DO sleep on his Cenobites album tho.

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16. "kool keith cant rap"
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super off beat.

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