"late pass me, but was Jay-Z throwing subliminals at 50 on The Prelude"
i'm talking about the first song on Kingdom Come. Jay says something like
the game's fucked up niggas beats are bangin, nigga you hooks did it ya lyrics didn't, your gangsta look did it
in the first stanza. was he going at 50? i was on a self-imposed vacay from hip-hop when this album dropped and i wasn't really a Jay fan at the time so this album kinda was off of my radar, but those lines kinda jumped out at me when listening to the album after some time away from it.
also, is the reason this album isn't regarded as 'good' by Jay-Z is because he's not rapping about his street life past? granted there are some filler tracks on Kingdom Come, mainly towards the end, but I thought it was good, maybe not as good as The Black Album or some of Jay's better albums.
so could someone pass on what was the critical approval of the album when it dropped?
1. "I think that was aimed torwards Game" In response to Reply # 0
And that album was pretty awful lyrically. He was coasting on that one in the worst way. Try picking out a quotable in, say, "Oh My God" or "Show Me What You Got". I think people prefer him to rap about street life because that's what he's good at rapping about.
2. "A lot of folks claim that people disliked it because it wasn't about " In response to Reply # 0
the "Street life" and that's complete bullshit to me. The content itself was better because it wasn't about drug shit, but the flows, lyrics, and overall songs just weren't hittin.
I will never forgive him for letting me/us down on the title track. When I first heard Just put that beat up on Myspace, showing how he flipped the Rick James track in a way I would have NEVER imagined, I said "man....if Jay comes outta retirement and uses this??? It's an INSTANT classic!" I thought it was gonna be PSA on steroids. But he came off HORRIBLE on it...the hook and verses were complete ass. Only quotable was the "Superman is alive" part, and we had heard that before!
It had some good-solid tracks for sure, but no real standouts at all. Some folks enjoyed "Hollywood" and the track with Usher, but they were super blah to me. Beach chair was interesting but I can see why some folks hate it and why some think it's dope...it was also blah to me.
cause Jay is too calculated to just take shots at people without the effect of this diss elevating his own career. so i guess the 'mad libs' diss is his pre-Death of AutoTune attack where he's just attacking the style that he thinks is killing the creativity in hip-hop.
6. "I listened to it a lot when it & HHID came out" In response to Reply # 0
But quickly stopped listening to certain songs. Sometimes it was the beats/chorus that were wack (Anything, Dig A Hole), sometimes it was his rhymes (30 Something but the Andre 3000/Ice Cube remix was good, Kingdom Come) and sometimes the you just have to be in the right mood for the song and it's good (Trouble, Beach Chair).
I'll say that "Lost Ones", "Oh My God" & "Do You Wanna Ride" are good/great songs that I still listen to occasionally.
The reason why I think it failed commercially is b/c Jay-z tried to be personal and poppy which just came off as corny. Why I think it failed artistically was b/c he had the perfect chance to reinvent himself, to finally lyrically "be Talib Kweli" but went half-assed and decided that poppiness would make up for any shortcomings. Not realizing that although he wasn't gone that long (Or really at all) there was a giant shift in hip hop between The Black Album & Kingdom Come's release, so he wasn't as bulletproof as he once was.
15. "you stole my thunder" In response to Reply # 14
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