"Madlib changed the beat vocabulary with "Madvillainy""
was listening to "Madvillainy" yesterday and was reminded how left many of the production aspects were when it dropped. The quiet snares, appealingly lo-fi mix and master, the copious amounts of certain effects like wah wah, flange. Cats had effects in beats before, of course, but not so much as central elements of the beat's "character". Not to mention the explosion of cats who took to using the SP-303 after the LP dropped.
Some observations I'd taken for granted as of late, which happens when you're like "yeah, that's a classic, of course" and keep it moving
1. "'highlighted' is a better word than 'changed'" In response to Reply # 0
he and Dilla did the same thing but went about it different ways niggas BEEN doing that shit, but he legitimized it as a competent way of making Hip Hop music
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>he and Dilla did the same thing but went about it different >ways >niggas BEEN doing that shit, but he legitimized it as a >competent way of making Hip Hop music
2. "I copped a SP-303 because of it lol" In response to Reply # 0
>Not to mention the >explosion of cats who took to using the SP-303 after the LP >dropped.
I had always wanted to make beats but was scared away by the high cost of entry. So when I heard he made "Madvillainy" and other stuff with a $300 machine, I took the chance.
It's in storage right now along with all my other equipment and vinyl due to the last 2 years or so being kinda crazy with two cross-country moves, multiple jobs, etc., but now that I'm settled I want to get back into it.
__ I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!
Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno
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4. "RE: I copped a SP-303 because of it lol" In response to Reply # 2
>>Not to mention the >>explosion of cats who took to using the SP-303 after the LP >>dropped. > >I had always wanted to make beats but was scared away by the >high cost of entry. So when I heard he made "Madvillainy" and >other stuff with a $300 machine, I took the chance. > >It's in storage right now along with all my other equipment >and vinyl due to the last 2 years or so being kinda crazy with >two cross-country moves, multiple jobs, etc., but now that I'm >settled I want to get back into it. > >_
I've wanted a 303 for a LONG time. One of my friends plugged his into the club's soundboard and performed a set, rhyming over his 303 beats and it sounded AMAZING, and this was back in 2000. I should just go on and do it, lol
7. "I own a 303, 404, 555 and 606" In response to Reply # 4
Roland/Boss SP's are the shit, period. If I were to scale down to one, I would do the 404. And that's the OG 404 not the newer SX one. Its portable, so you can make beats while you on a bus or at the beach or somethin (plus get field recordings).
5. "I enjoy that period of Madlib a whole lot." In response to Reply # 0
>Not to mention the explosion of cats who took to using the SP-303 after the LP dropped.
and Madvillainy was a BIG deal. I remember when the "Preview" version hit the net, with the funny titles. The coolest thing about that was, after the real Madvillainy hit the stores, Stones Throw actually documented the "Preview" and used the titles from the leak. LOL!
one of my favorite projects he did back then was the 2nd Remixes project. In 2004, there were virtually no beats in that style out... so to hear Madlib of all people go that route was awesome.
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10. "Dilla picked those beats." In response to Reply # 8
Out of a giant pile that Lib had, these are ones Dilla chose to rap over. Lib chose out of Dilla's beats the ones he wanted to rap over. Lib said he was suprised that Dilla picked more raw, out of the box beats while he had picked more mainstreamish ones.
11. "RE: Dilla picked those beats." In response to Reply # 10
>Out of a giant pile that Lib had, these are ones Dilla chose >to rap over. Lib chose out of Dilla's beats the ones he >wanted to rap over. Lib said he was suprised that Dilla >picked more raw, out of the box beats while he had picked more >mainstreamish ones.
Yeah, I'm aware of that, I just didn't realize they came from the same batch. Interesting