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CeeK.
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"Madlib changed the beat vocabulary with "Madvillainy""


  

          

was listening to "Madvillainy" yesterday and was reminded how left many of the production aspects were when it dropped. The quiet snares, appealingly lo-fi mix and master, the copious amounts of certain effects like wah wah, flange. Cats had effects in beats before, of course, but not so much as central elements of the beat's "character". Not to mention the explosion of cats who took to using the SP-303 after the LP dropped.

Some observations I'd taken for granted as of late, which happens when you're like "yeah, that's a classic, of course" and keep it moving



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'highlighted' is a better word than 'changed'
May 06th 2012
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^^^^^^^
May 06th 2012
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I copped a SP-303 because of it lol
May 06th 2012
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nah fuck all that, sell it to me instead
May 06th 2012
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RE: I copped a SP-303 because of it lol
May 06th 2012
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      I own a 303, 404, 555 and 606
May 06th 2012
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I enjoy that period of Madlib a whole lot.
May 06th 2012
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You All Know That The Beats He Made On "Champion Sound"...
May 06th 2012
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RE: You All Know That The Beats He Made On "Champion Sound"...
May 06th 2012
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Dilla picked those beats.
May 07th 2012
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RE: Dilla picked those beats.
May 07th 2012
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'Survival Test' is one of Madlib's livest beats....
May 07th 2012
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Garhart Poppwell
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1. "'highlighted' is a better word than 'changed'"
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he and Dilla did the same thing but went about it different ways
niggas BEEN doing that shit, but he legitimized it as a competent way of making Hip Hop music

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6. "^^^^^^^"
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>he and Dilla did the same thing but went about it different
>ways
>niggas BEEN doing that shit, but he legitimized it as a
>competent way of making Hip Hop music


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Ishwip
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2. "I copped a SP-303 because of it lol"
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>Not to mention the
>explosion of cats who took to using the SP-303 after the LP
>dropped.

I had always wanted to make beats but was scared away by the high cost of entry. So when I heard he made "Madvillainy" and other stuff with a $300 machine, I took the chance.

It's in storage right now along with all my other equipment and vinyl due to the last 2 years or so being kinda crazy with two cross-country moves, multiple jobs, etc., but now that I'm settled I want to get back into it.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

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philpot
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3. "nah fuck all that, sell it to me instead"
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Sun May-06-12 02:25 PM by philpot

  

          

jokes aside, ive had a lotta fun w/ this 404 so far even though the results so far are less than spectacular

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CeeK.
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4. "RE: I copped a SP-303 because of it lol"
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>>Not to mention the
>>explosion of cats who took to using the SP-303 after the LP
>>dropped.
>
>I had always wanted to make beats but was scared away by the
>high cost of entry. So when I heard he made "Madvillainy" and
>other stuff with a $300 machine, I took the chance.
>
>It's in storage right now along with all my other equipment
>and vinyl due to the last 2 years or so being kinda crazy with
>two cross-country moves, multiple jobs, etc., but now that I'm
>settled I want to get back into it.
>
>_

I've wanted a 303 for a LONG time. One of my friends plugged his into the club's soundboard and performed a set, rhyming over his 303 beats and it sounded AMAZING, and this was back in 2000. I should just go on and do it, lol

  

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7. "I own a 303, 404, 555 and 606"
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Roland/Boss SP's are the shit, period. If I were to scale down to one, I would do the 404. And that's the OG 404 not the newer SX one. Its portable, so you can make beats while you on a bus or at the beach or somethin (plus get field recordings).

  

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Dr Claw
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5. "I enjoy that period of Madlib a whole lot."
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>Not to mention the explosion of cats who took to using the SP-303 after the LP dropped.

and Madvillainy was a BIG deal. I remember when the "Preview" version hit the net, with the funny titles. The coolest thing about that was, after the real Madvillainy hit the stores, Stones Throw actually documented the "Preview" and used the titles from the leak. LOL!

one of my favorite projects he did back then was the 2nd Remixes project. In 2004, there were virtually no beats in that style out... so to hear Madlib of all people go that route was awesome.

  

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8. "You All Know That The Beats He Made On "Champion Sound"..."
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...were made during the same time as "Madvillainy", and "Champion Sound" came out beforehand.


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CeeK.
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9. "RE: You All Know That The Beats He Made On "Champion Sound"..."
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>...were made during the same time as "Madvillainy", and
>"Champion Sound" came out beforehand.
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Didn't know that. Hmmm.

  

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10. "Dilla picked those beats."
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Out of a giant pile that Lib had, these are ones Dilla chose to rap over. Lib chose out of Dilla's beats the ones he wanted to rap over. Lib said he was suprised that Dilla picked more raw, out of the box beats while he had picked more mainstreamish ones.

  

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CeeK.
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11. "RE: Dilla picked those beats."
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>Out of a giant pile that Lib had, these are ones Dilla chose
>to rap over. Lib chose out of Dilla's beats the ones he
>wanted to rap over. Lib said he was suprised that Dilla
>picked more raw, out of the box beats while he had picked more
>mainstreamish ones.

Yeah, I'm aware of that, I just didn't realize they came from the same batch. Interesting

  

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12. "'Survival Test' is one of Madlib's livest beats...."
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and Dilla rapping over it made it complete.

  

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