3. "he's equating Raves/Big Room Parties with *DJ Culture*" In response to Reply # 0
a good DJ can play a lounge with 25 people in it and change people's lives.
I hate when people take the Image and excesses of the *SUPERSTAR DJ's* ( Tiesto, Oakenfold, etc), and the large scale events that they and blame it on the music. They play BIG records that people want to hear at those kinds of events. Drugs and all that shit are a by-product of it. Not the CAUSE of it.
what about Rare Groove DJ's, SoundSystem Selectors, Cats who play downtempo, etc? Have a Beer and play a Mizell Brothers or Junior Murvin record, ya dig?
6. "I haven't seen it so I don't know what he's saying..." In response to Reply # 0 Tue May-22-12 05:36 PM by Jakob Hellberg
...I just want to say that I find the idea of those superstar DJ's selling out arenas and becoming big names/stars pretty ridiculous. In sweden, people like lame pop-trance producer Avicii and Swedish House Mafia and Rebecca&Fiona (the latter I don't know a single song from-the appeal seems to be that it is two young and supposedly hot girls DJ'in and getting paid, they even had their own reality show) are huge and it's like back in the day, you had raves and while I wasn't into that culture, it was DIY and "noone" was trying to become a star/celebrity; the event and the music was the attraction-many times, the name of the dj(s) was just written in small print on the flyers or not at all. Compared to then, the whole thing seems to have become very watered-down and commercialized now.
Of course, I guess it was the same in the late 90's for Fat Boy Slim and Chemical Brothers and those acts in the UK but they had successful albums/songs whereas many of those new acts at least in sweden seem to be celebrities first and artists second...
7. "yep. it turned in on itself..." In response to Reply # 6
>...I just want to say that I find the idea of those superstar >DJ's selling out arenas and becoming big names/stars pretty >ridiculous. In sweden, people like lame pop-trance producer >Avicii and Swedish House Mafia and Rebecca&Fiona (the latter I >don't know a single song from-the appeal seems to be that it >is two young and supposedly hot girls DJ'in and getting paid, >they even had their own reality show) are huge and it's like >back in the day, you had raves and while I wasn't into that >culture, it was DIY and "noone" was trying to become a >star/celebrity; the event and the music was the >attraction-many times, the name of the dj(s) was just written >in small print on the flyers or not at all. Compared to then, >the whole thing seems to have become very watered-down and >commercialized now.
And now it's about "DJ's as artists", and not DJ's.
> >Of course, I guess it was the same in the late 90's for Fat >Boy Slim and Chemical Brothers and those acts in the UK but >they had successful albums/songs whereas many of those new >acts at least in sweden seem to be celebrities first and >artists second...
that whole "Celebrity DJ" shit is part of what fucked everything up. Once people started paying celebrities to "DJ" ( meaning stand behind a REAL DJ and talk shit into a mic), it all went haywire. and of all the so-called "celebrity DJ's" ( Samantha Ronson, Paul Sevigny, Pauly D, etc). Most of them play REALLY shitty music.
10. "i still find it weird when people look at the dj like theyre a band" In response to Reply # 0
i mean there was a time when ppl didnt even look at the band playing either so maybe the fact we look is just weird in general (unless theyre really putting on a show)
but looking at a dj is just stupid imo
half the time theyre not even doing anything interesting
and you cant even SEE what theyre doing either!
its not like these djs are doing DMC routines.
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i stopped watching the TED talk after a minute or two. felt like a standup routine with no punchline.
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