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"an interesting read about 90's gangsta rap & private prisons"


  

          

swiped from a Tumblr post ( supposedly swiped from a magazine called The Find )


We just received this anonymous letter in our inbox entitled “The Secret Meeting that Changed Rap Music and Destroyed a Generation”. As of right now we can’t confirm if any of this is true nor how reliable the source is, but we’re sharing it anyway for your information. It’s a long read, so sit back and be amazed, informed and/or confused:

“After more than 20 years, I’ve finally decided to tell the world what I witnessed in 1991, which I believe was one of the biggest turning point in popular music, and ultimately American society. I have struggled for a long time weighing the pros and cons of making this story public as I was reluctant to implicate the individuals who were present that day. So I’ve simply decided to leave out names and all the details that may risk my personal well being and that of those who were, like me, dragged into something they weren’t ready for.

Between the late 80’s and early 90’s, I was what you may call a “decision maker” with one of the more established company in the music industry. I came from Europe in the early 80’s and quickly established myself in the business. The industry was different back then. Since technology and media weren’t accessible to people like they are today, the industry had more control over the public and had the means to influence them anyway it wanted. This may explain why in early 1991, I was invited to attend a closed door meeting with a small group of music business insiders to discuss rap music’s new direction. Little did I know that we would be asked to participate in one of the most unethical and destructive business practice I’ve ever seen.

The meeting was held at a private residence on the outskirts of Los Angeles. I remember about 25 to 30 people being there, most of them familiar faces. Speaking to those I knew, we joked about the theme of the meeting as many of us did not care for rap music and failed to see the purpose of being invited to a private gathering to discuss its future. Among the attendees was a small group of unfamiliar faces who stayed to themselves and made no attempt to socialize beyond their circle. Based on their behavior and formal appearances, they didn’t seem to be in our industry. Our casual chatter was interrupted when we were asked to sign a confidentiality agreement preventing us from publicly discussing the information presented during the meeting. Needless to say, this intrigued and in some cases disturbed many of us. The agreement was only a page long but very clear on the matter and consequences which stated that violating the terms would result in job termination. We asked several people what this meeting was about and the reason for such secrecy but couldn’t find anyone who had answers for us. A few people refused to sign and walked out. No one stopped them. I was tempted to follow but curiosity got the best of me. A man who was part of the “unfamiliar” group collected the agreements from us.

Quickly after the meeting began, one of my industry colleagues (who shall remain nameless like everyone else) thanked us for attending. He then gave the floor to a man who only introduced himself by first name and gave no further details about his personal background. I think he was the owner of the residence but it was never confirmed. He briefly praised all of us for the success we had achieved in our industry and congratulated us for being selected as part of this small group of “decision makers”. At this point I begin to feel slightly uncomfortable at the strangeness of this gathering. The subject quickly changed as the speaker went on to tell us that the respective companies we represented had invested in a very profitable industry which could become even more rewarding with our active involvement. He explained that the companies we work for had invested millions into the building of privately owned prisons and that our positions of influence in the music industry would actually impact the profitability of these investments. I remember many of us in the group immediately looking at each other in confusion. At the time, I didn’t know what a private prison was but I wasn’t the only one. Sure enough, someone asked what these prisons were and what any of this had to do with us. We were told that these prisons were built by privately owned companies who received funding from the government based on the number of inmates. The more inmates, the more money the government would pay these prisons. It was also made clear to us that since these prisons are privately owned, as they become publicly traded, we’d be able to buy shares. Most of us were taken back by this. Again, a couple of people asked what this had to do with us. At this point, my industry colleague who had first opened the meeting took the floor again and answered our questions. He told us that since our employers had become silent investors in this prison business, it was now in their interest to make sure that these prisons remained filled. Our job would be to help make this happen by marketing music which promotes criminal behavior, rap being the music of choice. He assured us that this would be a great situation for us because rap music was becoming an increasingly profitable market for our companies, and as employee, we’d also be able to buy personal stocks in these prisons. Immediately, silence came over the room. You could have heard a pin drop. I remember looking around to make sure I wasn’t dreaming and saw half of the people with dropped jaws. My daze was interrupted when someone shouted, “Is this a f****** joke?” At this point things became chaotic. Two of the men who were part of the “unfamiliar” group grabbed the man who shouted out and attempted to remove him from the house. A few of us, myself included, tried to intervene. One of them pulled out a gun and we all backed off. They separated us from the crowd and all four of us were escorted outside. My industry colleague who had opened the meeting earlier hurried out to meet us and reminded us that we had signed agreement and would suffer the consequences of speaking about this publicly or even with those who attended the meeting. I asked him why he was involved with something this corrupt and he replied that it was bigger than the music business and nothing we’d want to challenge without risking consequences. We all protested and as he walked back into the house I remember word for word the last thing he said, “It’s out of my hands now. Remember you signed an agreement.” He then closed the door behind him. The men rushed us to our cars and actually watched until we drove off.

A million things were going through my mind as I drove away and I eventually decided to pull over and park on a side street in order to collect my thoughts. I replayed everything in my mind repeatedly and it all seemed very surreal to me. I was angry with myself for not having taken a more active role in questioning what had been presented to us. I’d like to believe the shock of it all is what suspended my better nature. After what seemed like an eternity, I was able to calm myself enough to make it home. I didn’t talk or call anyone that night. The next day back at the office, I was visibly out of it but blamed it on being under the weather. No one else in my department had been invited to the meeting and I felt a sense of guilt for not being able to share what I had witnessed. I thought about contacting the 3 others who wear kicked out of the house but I didn’t remember their names and thought that tracking them down would probably bring unwanted attention. I considered speaking out publicly at the risk of losing my job but I realized I’d probably be jeopardizing more than my job and I wasn’t willing to risk anything happening to my family. I thought about those men with guns and wondered who they were? I had been told that this was bigger than the music business and all I could do was let my imagination run free. There were no answers and no one to talk to. I tried to do a little bit of research on private prisons but didn’t uncover anything about the music business’ involvement. However, the information I did find confirmed how dangerous this prison business really was. Days turned into weeks and weeks into months. Eventually, it was as if the meeting had never taken place. It all seemed surreal. I became more reclusive and stopped going to any industry events unless professionally obligated to do so. On two occasions, I found myself attending the same function as my former colleague. Both times, our eyes met but nothing more was exchanged.

As the months passed, rap music had definitely changed direction. I was never a fan of it but even I could tell the difference. Rap acts that talked about politics or harmless fun were quickly fading away as gangster rap started dominating the airwaves. Only a few months had passed since the meeting but I suspect that the ideas presented that day had been successfully implemented. It was as if the order has been given to all major label executives. The music was climbing the charts and most companies when more than happy to capitalize on it. Each one was churning out their very own gangster rap acts on an assembly line. Everyone bought into it, consumers included. Violence and drug use became a central theme in most rap music. I spoke to a few of my peers in the industry to get their opinions on the new trend but was told repeatedly that it was all about supply and demand. Sadly many of them even expressed that the music reinforced their prejudice of minorities.

I officially quit the music business in 1993 but my heart had already left months before. I broke ties with the majority of my peers and removed myself from this thing I had once loved. I took some time off, returned to Europe for a few years, settled out of state, and lived a “quiet” life away from the world of entertainment. As the years passed, I managed to keep my secret, fearful of sharing it with the wrong person but also a little ashamed of not having had the balls to blow the whistle. But as rap got worse, my guilt grew. Fortunately, in the late 90’s, having the internet as a resource which wasn’t at my disposal in the early days made it easier for me to investigate what is now labeled the prison industrial complex. Now that I have a greater understanding of how private prisons operate, things make much more sense than they ever have. I see how the criminalization of rap music played a big part in promoting racial stereotypes and misguided so many impressionable young minds into adopting these glorified criminal behaviors which often lead to incarceration. Twenty years of guilt is a heavy load to carry but the least I can do now is to share my story, hoping that fans of rap music realize how they’ve been used for the past 2 decades. Although I plan on remaining anonymous for obvious reasons, my goal now is to get this information out to as many people as possible. Please help me spread the word. Hopefully, others who attended the meeting back in 1991 will be inspired by this and tell their own stories. Most importantly, if only one life has been touched by my story, I pray it makes the weight of my guilt a little more tolerable.

Thank you.”

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RE: The illuminati is clearly involved.
Apr 25th 2012
1
def interesting
Apr 25th 2012
2
RE: def interesting
Apr 26th 2012
6
      to ballance the connotation
Apr 28th 2012
17
you know who owns the plantation
Apr 25th 2012
3
Wouldn't surprise me but really why couldn't they have leaked
Apr 25th 2012
4
*echoes sentiment* would.not.be.surprised.at.all
Apr 26th 2012
5
lol @ people falling for this bs. waits for "willie lynch letter"
Apr 26th 2012
7
:( @ the easily persuaded
Apr 26th 2012
8
Sigh
Apr 26th 2012
9
so you see it, too...
Apr 26th 2012
14
      It's way over the top and reads like a bad movie script
Apr 26th 2012
16
      do most crimes make any sense?
Apr 30th 2012
24
           RE: You high as hell, man!!!!
Apr 30th 2012
25
                naw quite sober,..
Apr 30th 2012
26
i was there.
Apr 26th 2012
10
NWA & 2 Live Crew records jumped off the shelves with little promo
Apr 26th 2012
11
And of course
Apr 26th 2012
13
RE: an interesting read about 90's gangsta rap & private prisons
Apr 26th 2012
12
Willie Lynch ass letter
Apr 26th 2012
15
How I know this is fake
Apr 28th 2012
18
^^^we have a winner
Apr 28th 2012
19
person might have been approached by the "persons"
Apr 29th 2012
22
lol The Usual Suspects Kobayashi scene comes to mind
Apr 28th 2012
20
figures...
Apr 28th 2012
21
RE: Better off actually reading something than reading this.
Apr 30th 2012
23

Austin
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1. "RE: The illuminati is clearly involved."
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2. "def interesting"
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it isn't even too far fetched to be true

but when u have these "anonymous" reports it's easy to dismiss it as a conspiracy fueled by our subconcious fears and an overactive imagination

personaly I believe their is a connection betweeen the rise of gangsta rap and the burgeoning privatation of the prison industry

altho I am a bit skeptical that it actually went down like the article mentioned with a formal meeting

why would uninformed "decsion makers" be apart of the inside circle?

wouldnt have been easier for the parent company to just force them in the directio they wanted to go(gangsta rap)?

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HIM
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6. "RE: def interesting"
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>why would uninformed "decsion makers" be apart of the inside
>circle?
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>wouldnt have been easier for the parent company to just force
>them in the directio they wanted to go(gangsta rap)?


This makes no sense to me either.


Why on Earth would this person's attendance be required in order to make this thing happen?


I believe that the concept of what the writer is saying is 1000% possible and likely very true but like you said, seems like it prob. went down another way or he/she is trying to be sure to distance themselves from the whole thing even further by telling the story this way.

But you are correct. The label owners could just steer the ship in the direction they would like for it to go. That's a no brainer there.

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17. "to ballance the connotation"
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between taste and preferences, rather than an "executive" decision

The intent to test control population by influence, could shroud any criminal prosecution or investigations in period connected to those sentences to identified prisons. (Bribery to false evidence)

To me the story is believable because of the dilemma these private prisons create within the local jurisdiction,..

the abstraction of the prison industrial complex becomes more concrete in "these" type of occurrences,..

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/08/11/139536686/pa-judge-sentenced-to-28-years-in-massive-juvenile-justice-bribery-scandal

the administration of the law becomes "colored" and is then socializing persons into criminal lifestyle, rather than upholding the law.

the irony is that an oppressive federalist system, will have to uphold state law in its physicality rather than philosophically,..

because the state,..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Blagojevich_corruption_charges

would likely be pulled into a black hole of corruption to deflect the federal authorities from jurisdictional entry to the affairs of the state,..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/colorados-marijuana-legal_n_1305079.html

and to counter,..."special prosecutions"

following a cycle of personal desires enacted through positions of public authority, a Federal Criminal Judge says to defendant (blag),.
(paraphrased) your argument infers that there is US gov conspiracy.

I am not a lawyer, and technically as far i know about Illinois, if you want a plea it has to be done in pre-trial action, however the judge was throwing the defendant a bone and could have possibly turned the fortune of his eventual 14 year conviction.

"that it was bigger than the music business and nothing we’d want to challenge without risking consequences"

Blag as example is tragic,..he exemplified the false security persons enter into within corruption: At some point their distorted reality is adjusted back to ground.

Sin is probably not going to be limited to an instant,..
the repertoire of those involved include coercion and extortion, often by force, and if in the accident of being to physical to crime, the social conditioning of corruption allow(s) parties to make the law immaterial.

why the racketeering charges were dropped probably "has" nothing to do with there not being any "money," but the contextual leeway plausible because a governor engaged a criminal conspiracy: search and seizures, privy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/bank-of-america-foreclosure-suit_n_1415614.html












  

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3. "you know who owns the plantation"
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so that ain't far fetched at all, nothing shocking or surprising at all,

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4. "Wouldn't surprise me but really why couldn't they have leaked"
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this info to an underground paper or trusted media friend? Maybe something happened to make them believe it was safe now but just seems weird.

  

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5. "*echoes sentiment* would.not.be.surprised.at.all"
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7. "lol @ people falling for this bs. waits for "willie lynch letter""
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8. ":( @ the easily persuaded "
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9. "Sigh"
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This is an obvious and poorly-conceived work of pure fiction. Like we don't have enough actual problems without people inventing X-Files-worthy conspiracies on top of it.

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14. "so you see it, too..."
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who, but a storyteller, tells a story this "precisely"?

smh

the idea that people didn't buy the shit until it got more melodic and cleanly-produced?...and music businessmen are about anything but making money off music...c'mon, head. there is no conspiracy to your life, OTHER PEOPLE JUST DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU.

by the way...

who would have a meeting and say some supreme evil-type shit like this and trust a legal document to keep the secret safe forever?

and if you have legal documents, why bother with guns?

better yet, if you have guns...why would you say: Now remember...you signed a contract!"

who, holding a gun, threatens people like that?

sorry, ya'll i write for a living.
i see fakery all kinds in here.

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16. "It's way over the top and reads like a bad movie script"
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All the ominous and weird aspects which he double-underlines to try to make you feel uneasy - it's so over the top. I laughed when I got to the guy being physically removed from the room and the other guy brandishing the gun. This shit never, ever happened. If anything like this ever went down (and it didn't), it was nothing like this low-budget thriller silliness.

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24. "do most crimes make any sense?"
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why would a person get caught with 20 million dollars worth of cocaine if their motive was money?

the story's merit has more to do with sensibility. it would be more naive to believe that there are no plausible contexts as described in narrative if we are examining the world around us.

The mortgage stuff,..
robo signing,..
Fdic closes bank (200 or so,..)

to keep it real these mofos would have most like had some secret cave like meeting where they engage their "rituals" and such,..

us still trying to live on earth have to be discerning but yet see the truth in these "fables" because it could be code to a real forum,..


  

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25. "RE: You high as hell, man!!!!"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPRc9lUW910#t=00m16s

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26. "naw quite sober,.."
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i mostly recall that many canapes were consumed.

  

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11. "NWA & 2 Live Crew records jumped off the shelves with little promo"
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Sex & Violence will sell as long as it remains somewhat taboo. No conspiracy theory necessary.
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13. "And of course"
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"Straight Outta Compton" was out in 1988 (and was everywhere), and "As Nasty as They Wanna Be" was 1989 (and was also everywhere). "The Geto Boys" was out in 1990 with this cover: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6e/Geto_Boys_1990_Album_Def_American_Pressing.jpeg

This isn't even plausible fiction - at least pick a year that pre-dates the formative records flying off the shelves. If you heard the little white kids in my high school rapping "Fuck tha police" in 89-90, you would have already known which direction things were headed, no help from the illuminati necessary.

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12. "RE: an interesting read about 90's gangsta rap & private prisons"
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The unfortunate thing about conspiracy theories like this is that they keep people distracted. It's a lot longer than this article, but The New Jim Crow spells out in excruciating detail the sometimes-deliberate and planned, sometimes-reactionary and cowardly process that brought about the massive expansion of the prison system in the eighties and nineties. It had a LOT more to do with political posturing than with Snoop Doggy Dogg, believe it or not.

  

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15. "Willie Lynch ass letter"
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18. "How I know this is fake"
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Because if it were real said person basically revealed himself to the conspirators:

* One of the four who left the room
* Quit the industry two years later

Said conspirators would have to know everyone who was there, hell they have signed contracts from all of those people. THey'd also have taken note of who left. This puts not only the author but the other three in danger.
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22. "person might have been approached by the "persons""
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danger eminent,..
mine as well speak up,...

as far as that contract,..

it would be like if a persons using surveillance technology sues me for copyright infringement because i released the spied upon content.

  

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20. "lol The Usual Suspects Kobayashi scene comes to mind"
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On the dock of that bay serving a life sentence,even if I’m going to hell I’m gonna make an entrance

  

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Ezzsential
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21. "figures..."
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that was ill...very touching...
i'll remember that for years to come...

semantics softer than couples at wedding alters
this cops and robbers
and u cant hold a candle
rip ur antlers off and hang them on my mantle
str8 rambo--rocket science wouldnt even try it
these dudes cant compare their focus is on a diet~me

  

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Austin
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23. "RE: Better off actually reading something than reading this."
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Start here:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/209/209-h/209-h.htm

~Austin

"Where in the world is your inspiration to say the things you're aching to say?"

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