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philpot
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"sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST"


  

          

ALL the classic LPs are sample based

ALL the best hip hop is sample based

cry

call ur shrink

call ur music teacher

cry some more

study music theory

cry some more


cry cry cry cry cry

whine

bitch

moralize

be a general hoe ass mofo

but ur wrong and we're right and history PROVES it


CRY

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Although I agree with the sentiment...
Apr 17th 2012
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i'm with you 99% of the time on this one but...
Apr 17th 2012
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the BEST song on Undun is a loop!!
Apr 17th 2012
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nah...
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      yeah, on the real Tip the Scale was my favorite on there...
Apr 17th 2012
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Larry Smith is amazing in every way convievable
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      RE: Larry Smith is amazing in every way convievable
Apr 18th 2012
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i don't see this as a spin and if it gets locked, that's wack
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Dude, I'll just say that it seems directly targeted at responses
Apr 17th 2012
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      this post is more based in using history to argue...
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I'LL ADMIT
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!
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      nooo...im not satisfied
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           RE: nooo...im not satisfied
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           are you...perhaps....
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           lol
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RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST
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RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST
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RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST
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Agreed agreed agreed
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NOPE!
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RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST
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Actually...
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RE: philpot posts are the WORST WORST WORST WORST
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if there wasnt a philpot youd have to create one
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      RE: #1 We've established that I'm an idiot already.
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           ull just hav to buy me the brew and c wat happens
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                RE: Right.
Apr 17th 2012
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                     im mad i started posting today, its like binge drinking
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                          HEE HAW
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                          RE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2E_RSJAhYU
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RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST
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RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST
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BNH were dooooooope
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      RE: BNH were dooooooope
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i would agree with the thread title if it said
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RE: i would agree with the thread title if it said
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RE: i would agree with the thread title if it said
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hmm, on which album(s)?
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alot of ONP is sample based
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RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST
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Dre was better when he was sampling and...
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swizz should be the poster boy example
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to my ears? cosign, cosign, cosign.
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Been waiting for this poast for years and #cosine
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anyone who disagrees is just on some bullshit....
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RE: It's like. . .
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RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST
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her best beats are sampled
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great, thanks...im in stalk mode now
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Pretty much
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I prefer making sample based Hip Hop but,
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I agree but
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i agree with your sentiment
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philpot, would be curious to know what you think of this
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this beat is ok to me
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I couldn't agree more... Pete Rock without samples? Man.. look
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big ups to this post and replys
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the dopest hip hop is a fusion of the 2, esp in 2012+
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yep. see: Like Water for Chocolate
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RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST
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What exactly are you trying to prove?
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      RE: What exactly are you trying to prove?
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           everything u hav posted to prove ur "point"
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                RE: everything u hav posted to prove ur "point"
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mrhood75
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1. "Although I agree with the sentiment..."
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...tell me why I shouldn't lock. Since I figure this is a spin-off of that ABROCK post.

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2. "i'm with you 99% of the time on this one but..."
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Tue Apr-17-12 05:27 PM by howardlloyd

  

          

Larry Smith's RUN-DMC and WHodini albums are classic

and *undun is a personal classic

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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philpot
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5. "the BEST song on Undun is a loop!!"
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7. "nah..."
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that 1 aint my favorite....

sleep, stomp, lighthouse, tip the scale my faves

lighthouse got sampled drums i think...maybe

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philpot
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8. "yeah, on the real Tip the Scale was my favorite on there..."
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46. "Larry Smith is amazing in every way convievable"
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as a producer
he's part of the reason I have such high standards for non-sampled beats and why they're not really met

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55. "RE: Larry Smith is amazing in every way convievable"
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in the ultimate of ironies...

larry smith may be my favorite

darryl n joe (krush groove 3)
funky beat
one love
i'm a ho

and i think the reason he stopped ...was he refused to start sampling after marley/ultra/BDP/rakim hit

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3. "i don't see this as a spin and if it gets locked, that's wack"
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4. "Dude, I'll just say that it seems directly targeted at responses"
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in that other thread. Again, I agree, but I'm not it's necessary. Unless we try some actual discussion in here.

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philpot
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6. "this post is more based in using history to argue..."
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its not general discussion of sampling etc

it is a challenge to ppl to actually prove using fact and history that sampling is or isnt the BEST sound for hip hop music

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9. "I'LL ADMIT "
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I'M MILDLY AGITATED

  

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10. "!"
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i can only hope Phil is satisfied

  

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philpot
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12. "nooo...im not satisfied"
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*leads march of sample based hiphop fans to the electrosynth police station and demands justice*

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all stah
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13. "RE: nooo...im not satisfied"
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Your statement is very disrespectful to the history of hip hop, and you do not even realize it.

  

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18. "are you...perhaps...."
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mad?

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26. "lol"
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all stah
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11. "RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST"
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Tue Apr-17-12 07:19 PM by all stah

          

No. Not all the greatest albums or songs are sample based( as in chops and loops).

See Newcleus

See Mantronix

See Just Ice

See Afrika Bambatta

See Run DMC

See The roots( do you want more?) ..shiiiiiiiit

See The treacherous three

See the fearless four

See Kurtis Blow

See Grand Master Flash and the Furious five

LL Cool J's first album

Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill,Check Your head, Ill Communications, Hello Nasty

I can go on and on and on.


Drums being programmed with drum machines came before chopping and sampling beats with MPCs and Sp1200s.....

Sampling doing the original era was more for adding adlibs and effects to records, similar to what these electric beat makers are doing, taking bits and pieces here and there, not constantly using full songs s and looping ...


Sampling is a good tool, and I enjoy it, but hip hop is not limited to that, and it shouldn't be

  

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36. "RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST"
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alot of those people used samples as well...

and some people would say the early records didnt reflect the "hip hop" of the parks...
sampling techonology wasnt there yet...

iono

its tricky

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48. "RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST"
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>No. Not all the greatest albums or songs are sample based( as
>in chops and loops).
>
>See Newcleus
>
>See Mantronix
>
>See Just Ice
>

I put Mantronix & Just Ice in a later reply

>See Afrika Bambatta
>

It was a replay, but still....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBGNlTPgQII

>See Run DMC
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKhLmV7gN2I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mVSPXVaEVE

>See The roots( do you want more?) ..shiiiiiiiit
>

The Roots totally sample, but if you just mean DYWM, they did replays a la "Planet Rock"

>See The treacherous three
>
>See the fearless four
>
>See Kurtis Blow
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFjnr_hjYs4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35mS0vCcp4

>See Grand Master Flash and the Furious five
>
While more of a DJ set that was considered a song...it was all samples

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tElUe0wbae0&feature=fvst

and then there was this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkrpqx_5dAk

But yeah...most of their stuff was replayed

>LL Cool J's first album
>
http://www.whosampled.com/sample/view/80011/LL%20Cool%20J-Dangerous_Prince-Irresistible%20B****/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-lVMICwiOI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY-Z6wm6TMQ

>Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill,Check Your head, Ill
>Communications, Hello Nasty
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzRKkXk56iE

can't find a link, but it's Eugene McDaniels "Get It Together"

>I can go on and on and on.
>
>
>Drums being programmed with drum machines came before chopping
>and sampling beats with MPCs and Sp1200s.....
>
>Sampling doing the original era was more for adding adlibs and
>effects to records, similar to what these electric beat makers
>are doing, taking bits and pieces here and there, not
>constantly using full songs s and looping ...
>
>
>Sampling is a good tool, and I enjoy it, but hip hop is not
>limited to that, and it shouldn't be
>
>


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14. "Agreed agreed agreed"
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well, not ALL classics but MOST classics yes.

and so it doesn't get locked, let's post some music shall we?

Paul's Boutique - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKNmLMs7ugw

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15. "NOPE!"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj8R69KOb8U&ob=av2e

Roots - distortion to static says fuck your dependency on sampling

  

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16. "RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGucD4k1exo

Cold getting dumb- just ice ....says NOPE!

  

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47. "Actually..."
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGucD4k1exo
>
>Cold getting dumb- just ice ....says NOPE!

Just Ice & Mantronix say Yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sJRDTKy85Jg


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17. "RE: philpot posts are the WORST WORST WORST WORST"
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Goddamn, you bitch. If I buy you a beer will you just shut the fuck up for about three months?

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20. "if there wasnt a philpot youd have to create one"
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im just doing all the work for you

a ready made strawman for you to display ur supreme knowledge...

or something

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24. "RE: #1 We've established that I'm an idiot already."
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#2 It was a simple yes or no answer. If I buy you a fucking beer will you please leave this forum entirely (no new aliases), for a minimum of three months?

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25. "ull just hav to buy me the brew and c wat happens"
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cant make any promises

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27. "RE: Right."
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Too scared to stop posting at an internet forum.

Gotcha.

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28. "im mad i started posting today, its like binge drinking"
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the key is not to make the first post

once i make that first post, the floodgates open

my advice to you is dont respond, let my posts die and ill log off before too long, thought yall had that figured by now

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31. "HEE HAW"
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>my advice to you is dont respond, let my posts die and ill log
>off before too long, thought yall had that figured by now
>

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37. "RE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2E_RSJAhYU"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2E_RSJAhYU

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19. "RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru3gH27Fn6E

So what'cha you want - beastie boys

NOPE!

Playing instruments!

  

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21. "RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST"
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Kool g rap/ BNH= Death Threat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hnqce5_AaE


NOPE!

  

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22. "BNH were dooooooope"
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23. "RE: BNH were dooooooope"
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NOPE ..you took your stance already ....NOPE!!

lol

  

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29. "i would agree with the thread title if it said"
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something more like

"Over 95% of the hip hop that is the BEST BEST BEST is sample-based"

in addition to some of the examples above

isn't a lot of Organized Noise Productions stuff sample-free? Mike Dean? Mark Ronson's "Fried Chicken"?

I wish there were more hip hop producers who did what Portishead did on their 2nd album (Use old recording techniques and press their own playing on vinyl and then sample it)

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33. "RE: i would agree with the thread title if it said"
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that was purposeful

i normally lament the use of absolutes

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35. "RE: i would agree with the thread title if it said"
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see Jake One.

that's what he did.

  

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51. "hmm, on which album(s)?"
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i never listened to white van music or the freeway album in their entirety

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44. "alot of ONP is sample based"
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30. "RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST"
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We just going to ignore Swizz Beats?

and DJ Quick?


and Dre?

and the Neptunes?


LOl

gotcha!

  

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32. "Dre was better when he was sampling and..."
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aside from a song here and there (grindin's genius for example is in it's simplicity, much like a lit of dope sampld based shit) those others do nothing for me

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34. "swizz should be the poster boy example"
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for the pro-sample crew

that brotha terrible with a capital T

he has gotten alot better...i think he's mediocre now... when he first came out he was an insult to everyone

**besides the negro was sampling the keyboard demos lol

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38. "to my ears? cosign, cosign, cosign."
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simple as that.

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39. "Been waiting for this poast for years and #cosine"
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It's funny how the same fools that act like they "too good" for sampling will big up all these classic sample based hip-hop albums (and Dilla) in the same breath, foh.

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40. "anyone who disagrees is just on some bullshit...."
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42. "RE: It's like. . ."
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. . .of course I agree.

But, from where I'm standing, it's also like Hitler coming out in a speech and saying, "Beer sure is great after a day of hard work!"

It's technically not WRONG. But I feel like an asshole for agreeing because of WHO said it.

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41. "RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OClksFZbV-M&feature=related

lies ..this producer chick puts you to shame!!!!!

she uses a mpc , but is not limited to that ..plays everything else to give it that

'its not sampled based!!!!!!

this is how a mpc is supposed to be used

listen to her!!

  

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45. "her best beats are sampled"
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and who is to say "how an mpc is supposed to be used"

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57. "great, thanks...im in stalk mode now"
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43. "Pretty much"
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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49. "I prefer making sample based Hip Hop but,"
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I like working with every color of the musical landscape when I feel like it.

It's not limiting to only use samples, it's just a matter of preference at that moment
It's not limiting to not use samples, it's still just a matter of preference at that moment

We have to remember that art is about expressing a feeling. The technology we use or don't use is just a way to help us convey those feelings.

I only decide whether I like the finished piece or not, but I never judge the work based on what brushes the painter used.

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50. "I agree but"
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I think people took the other post the wrong way. Sample based hip hop never went anywhere. Some dudes just never expanded the way they use samples. Just Blaze, Kanye, Bink, No ID, etc. still use samples. Just in a current way. Primo uses samples but it sounds dated IMO. Any platinum album out in the past year has samples on it. I think dude in the other post was just pointing out that some guys never took it to the next level. They kinda got complacent and payed the price for it.

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56. "i agree with your sentiment"
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but that other post didn't exactly say that...

it wasn't framed as dudes not updating their approach to sampling.

it was framed as failing to "move on" or "progress" FROM sampling...

its semantics...i know. but, it was disrespectful.

then dudes in there calling sampling crap....LOL.

  

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52. "philpot, would be curious to know what you think of this"
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http://hecticzeniths.bandcamp.com/track/save-me-instrumental

the piano is not a sample, some drums are live and some drums are sampled, violin is not sampled...the rest is samples

what if more hip hop producers took that approach, centering beats around original stuff but then layering a bunch of shorter vinyl samples on top of it?

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54. "this beat is ok to me"
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objectively its nice and very well put together but not my taste so much, reminds me of something KNO from CL would make

im not mad at it in any way

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53. "I couldn't agree more... Pete Rock without samples? Man.. look"
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it's about how you flip them jawns.

  

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58. "big ups to this post and replys"
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that other post was starting to depress me a bit...

i really thought OKP had officially gone off the deep end.

i see there is still some common sense...

i can go back to lurking now, knowing some of ya'll regulars still ride for the art form...

i came out of retirement cuz i thought there weren't enough voices in that other post.

all that said, ain't shit wrong with using live instruments and synths. its just that sampling has been and will always be the backbone of hip hop and the most distinguishing factor that separates this genre from others....(that, and rappers). Producers don't think in absolutes, and that other post was going towards this fascist sentiment about what is futuristic and next level...nonsense.

  

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59. "the dopest hip hop is a fusion of the 2, esp in 2012+"
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When u can mesh the samples with the synthetics , and it still sounds raw either way you freak it, that's the dopest shit.

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65. "yep. see: Like Water for Chocolate"
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Jordan!

  

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60. "RE: sample based hip hop is the BEST BEST BEST BEST"
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Be Mad bitches!

Jake One

Scratch: You’re known for having this real hard, but organic underground sound. What did you do stylistically different on this record?

Jake One: There is definitely more joints with live instrumentation. Some of the records people will think are samples. The joint with MF Doom, called “Trap Door,” that’s all live. Also, this is probably the first time I’ve got to go back and put everything I wanted in to songs, like scratches, extra stuff. Usually when I do a record for a big artist, they want the beat like it sounds on a beat tape and that’s it. It’s more elaborate than some of the stuff I’ve done in the past.


  

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61. "What exactly are you trying to prove?"
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62. "RE: What exactly are you trying to prove?"
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That there is no limitation when it comes to the sound of hip hop. It is not limited to a tool or particular device, and it is all based on the creativity of the artist.


live instrumentation based hip hop can sound just as good as sampled based hip hop, and sampled based hip hop can sound just as good as live instrumentation hip hop

there is no the BEST BEST BEST BEST

  

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63. "everything u hav posted to prove ur "point""
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is not as good as prolly 50-100 sample based somgs that trump it

sorry

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64. "RE: everything u hav posted to prove ur "point""
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phil ...phil.

go grab a baseball steak

you bothering me kid.

  

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