"is KMD's Mr. Hood a classic?" Thu Apr-12-12 05:04 PM by ABROCK33
I know its relativley obscure and rarely gets brought up along w the heavyweights of the era
its hardly even mentioned in the context of Dooms own discography; almost as if his career started w Op Doomsday
for those that have followed Doom since the begining you can see how his style developed over the course of years of practice
his ear for the eccentric began here
the way the Mr Hood charachter dialogue was chopped up to resemble actual conversation and was interwoven as a sequway into the songs was genuis IMHO
Mr Hood wasnt just a skit for skits sake he actually tied the album together
a slightly ignorant man who wandered into KMD's LI world and interacts w the black youth
he was actually makeing a statement while being entertaining
the rhymes were thoughtfull and intelligent
its a lyricaly "dense" lp
to those whove heard it and digested it and realy analyzed it what do u think?
-------------------- "Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
3. "I liked the lp back when he was Zev Love X" In response to Reply # 1
I thought he was extremly witty and I dug the jazzy production
I can see how its a complete 180 from his Doom persona and Doom fans might not like it-no swearing, or references to drugs and alchohal
its like he was a whole diffrent person then
-------------------- "Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
14. "I did too, was interested in X the 1st time I saw him in a Sunoco uni" In response to Reply # 3
in the 'Gas Face' video, then bought the album later when 'Peach Fuzz' was coming out.
They were like a mix of De La & Brand Nubian but not really as impactful as either, I liked the album but there was other stuff that occupied more of my boombox/walkman time in 1991.
18. "Well, it had a lot of competition for attention even the day it dropped" In response to Reply # 14
>They were like a mix of De La & Brand Nubian but not really as >impactful as either, I liked the album but there was other >stuff that occupied more of my boombox/walkman time in 1991.
It came out the same day as "De La Soul is Dead" and Ice-T's "Original Gangster" (Hell, Son of Bazerk's album dropped the same day). I believe Chubb Rock's "The One" dropped the week before. Three out of those four were hits with successful singles/videos, so "Mr. Hood" went unnoticed by many at the time.
32. "true, those first two were defnitely more in the forefront of my mind th..." In response to Reply # 18
Speaking of Son Of Bazerk, didn't the Terminator X album come out around this time?
Yeah so De La & OG, plus I was still playing Breaking Atoms & Step In The Arena I belive.
That point of '91 was an interesting era, it was sort of an in-between point between some of that more varied/esoteric hip-hop that had blown up in the early De La/PE/Eric & Ra/BDP/Too Short time period of the late 80s into '90 & just before the switch that happened with Dre/Snoop in 92/93 along with the East-Coast harder response of Wu/Nas/etc that begat that '94-96 era.
I might need to go back & listen to Mr. Hood again, it's been ages since that was an album I owned on tape (I still had a mix of both that & CD at the time depending on how I acquired it).
2. "I'm obviously a little biased, but yes." In response to Reply # 0
I can only speak to its impact on my life, but I'll say that it probably changed how I listened to music. I'd been a fan of De La's "3 Feet High and Rising", but to me, I'd never seen a hip-hop album be creative in the way that it was on "Mr. Hood." I'd literally never heard of hip-hop album like that before.
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
6. "To me it was what People's Instinctive Travels...." In response to Reply # 0 Thu Apr-12-12 05:31 PM by jaybennie
...was trying to achieve in terms of cohesion. I was a bit too young to grasp the material, but I dugged the production. When I got back to it when I was older, I was floored by the wittiness and humour that KMD displayed. It's not drive by night kinda album, it demands an ear and respect for what was happening in the inner-cities around that time.
7. "thats an interesting comparision to PITTPFR" In response to Reply # 6
i never thought to look at those lps side by side
the segways on PIT were nice but they really only served to break the monotony and to smooth out the rougness
the Mr Hood skits however were essential to the story
the way the Johnny Guitar watson records interacts with Mr Hood and Piacalls jewelry as flawless
same way with the the haircut skit going into subrocs mission
there was a story to be told as their was alot of racial tension at that time and KMD found the perfect way to express it from a teenage vantage point. they were too young to be revolutiojnaries like PE
the fact that they were able to harness their creativity and focus it like that as teens really speaks to the genuis of Doom
I was floored by the >wittiness and humour that KMD displayed.>
agreed "these arent shoes they are CLOGS"
It's not drive by >night kinda album, it demands and ear and respect for what was >happening in the inner-cities around that time.
RIGHT its an album that you preferable sit and listen to front to back in a single sitting with a clear head as opposed to being an lp you play with your boys as a backdrop of you playing video games
its aged well
-------------------- "Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
9. "to go a bit deeper" In response to Reply # 8 Thu Apr-12-12 05:57 PM by ABROCK33
its funny becauseI always group that record w the other records that came out on Elektra or had the SD50 sound (LONS and Del debuts) and Mr Hood stands out
u mention that it has aged wel I think because even though they were young its a mature themed lp
its funny cuz Dooms carrer arc started out concerned w contemporary issues then degragaded to trivial, banel matters as he got older. thats the exact opposite of most artists growth and development
im just stateing the obvious here but Subrocs death realy had a profound effect on him spiritually and pschologicaly
its like Doom lost his faith
I would love for him to speak on that aspect of it as as a youth he was part of the Ansarallah community in NY, and speaks on racial upliftment, social injustice and positvity :doom smokes no cancer cticks" and he makes ablution (wude-Muslim washing for prayer) but now his attitude is the furthest from rightgousness
I day all this knowing he will never speak on it tho
-------------------- "Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
10. "RE: to go a bit deeper" In response to Reply # 9 Thu Apr-12-12 05:57 PM by jaybennie
Be careful though...because when doom came out of hiding with Op Doomsday, he was speaking in codes a lot, which showed how fragile an intelligent person, such as himself, can be while dealing with tragic events. Yes, his brother's death shook him ALOT, but he still sends the same message at times, but in codes. I don't like when he goes on that forced-esoteric rant like the dangerdoom project, but when he's on he is still the same zev love x.
Prolly the reason he hasn't been releasing any new material lately...I would be uninspired, and want to be with my kids more too.
11. "I didnt mean to sound like Im condeming him cuz im not" In response to Reply # 10
its just that his Doom persona seems to be directly influenced by the tragedy he went through
who knows what career path he could/woulda taken otherwise
dudes a genuis to me and obviously intelligent
but when he's on he is still the >same zev love x.>
this I just dont see tho
-------------------- "Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
12. "RE: I didnt mean to sound like Im condeming him cuz im not" In response to Reply # 11
I still think his rhymes are playful, witty and filled with humour as he was with KMD...he's older and mature now, but it comes out...rappers don't really change much from when they were younger, they just talk about different things
13. "oh I def get the humor and wit..its still there" In response to Reply # 12
I was speaking more to the consciousness and speaking on society as a whole
thats missing
Im not argueing as I love Dooms work but I just wonder how i couldve been had he progresed on the path he was goin w Mr Hood
-------------------- "Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
17. "Me personally? I think yeah he's changed but... it was natural" In response to Reply # 13 Thu Apr-12-12 07:52 PM by Artful Dodger
most of the cats from the community either went one direction or the other but the truth is even the cats who went left field with their life studies basically still had a commitment to the information and knowledge they found. Like the other cat said - codes.
I mean, I get what you saying tho -
I personally appreciate both sides of that equation cause like you said his work is genius.
20. "no. black bastards is." In response to Reply # 0
though dooms real first classic that everyone could agree on (if BB was released at the time it was meant to be out i think it would have been a minor classic, or almost-masterpiece, but not quite there) was obviously operation doomsday.
21. "When it dropped I really wanted to like it more" In response to Reply # 0
If I go back and think on it now - who me - banana peel blues - nitty gritty - peach fuzz (and the b-side to nitty gritty, plum skinz)
were the only songs I liked. I thought the concept was cool, but it didn't really work for me.
I wonder if Rza was influenced by this lp. Prolly not, but listening to enter the 36 made me think of how folks use vocal samples.
anyway, Black Bastards was a much much better record. And of course Doom's first solo was better than BB, and his best work to date imo was the og MadVillain.
26. "Ive been sayin this forever" In response to Reply # 24
>madvillainy is maybe better for lyrics, but if you want to >hear doom as doom intended, i think you need to have doom over >doom beats.>
I love his work w Madlib, DM and others but to me theres nothing better than Doom rhymin over his own beats...nothing
-------------------- "Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
27. "even the atmosphere is different" In response to Reply # 26
his own self produced has a different feel to it, it feels like youre plugged into his brain more completely. whereas the albums like madvillainy sound like theres more distance between him and the beats. dangerdoom was a bit meh, the new one with janeiro jnel will prob be the same.
28. "couldn't of said it better" In response to Reply # 21
>If I go back and think on it now >- who me >- banana peel blues >- nitty gritty >- peach fuzz (and the b-side to nitty gritty, plum skinz) > >were the only songs I liked. I thought the concept was cool, >but it didn't really work for me.
life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely
i never got to into it because the rhymes just seem a little dated somehow. Black Bastards on the other hand is in my top ten albums no doubt. i just rebought it on vinyl (broke my cd years ago) and damn i love that joint. The intro alone is legendary and beats are slammin. listenin to it again made me wonder what the fuck ever happened to basslines?
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Fri Apr-13-12 03:48 PM
33. "On a lightweight funny note." In response to Reply # 0 Fri Apr-13-12 03:48 PM by normal35762
Years ago at a pawn shop down here in Alabama. This white owned pawn shop had a Peachfuzz maxi single cassette on sale. I took note of it. In 2000 it crossed my mind that they had it and I went to get it. It was still there and it was only a dollar. Dude looked at me slightly funny when I bought it. I was thinking that the reason for that was because he thought the cover was on some anti-negro KKK tip.
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