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"Is "Bigger than Hip Hop" the origin of Dubstep?"


  

          

I am at a club right now where they played this song right after a Dubstep set, and I never thought about it, but this song sounds like it damn near inspired the whole genre. I know Timbo (joked? And) said he invented Dubstep, and his old late 90's bouncy tracks do sound like they may have had some influence, but Dead Prez's track sounds even more like it.

Who knows, maybe I'm trippin

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RE: Is "Bigger than Hip Hop" the origin of Dubstep?
Apr 12th 2012
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no
Apr 12th 2012
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nope
Apr 12th 2012
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No, it used to be called "jungle"
Apr 12th 2012
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I remember Jungle, and it sounded a lot different to me
Apr 12th 2012
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      im by no means an expert in the sub genres of "electronic music"
Apr 12th 2012
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Nah
Apr 12th 2012
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RE: Is "Bigger than Hip Hop" the origin of Dubstep?
Apr 12th 2012
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you could make a case for the mainstream version but
Apr 12th 2012
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that bassline and hi-hats on the 16th notes was more in line w/ crunk
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1. "RE: Is "Bigger than Hip Hop" the origin of Dubstep?"
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id say stuff like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqfIvPQ8Dgo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wt1nvsoKno

speed garage / breakbeat techno / old school jungle / etc all helped evolve garage / 2 step which gave the offspring of dubstep, just an opinion of course

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Thu Apr-12-12 04:53 AM

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2. "no"
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To people like US, a record is a piece of history. A moment in time.
most people don't get it.

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AlBundy
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3. "nope"
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4. "No, it used to be called "jungle""
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and has been around since before that song

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7. "I remember Jungle, and it sounded a lot different to me"
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Seems like it could have evolved into Dubstep, but the elements were different from what I remember.

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10. "im by no means an expert in the sub genres of "electronic music""
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but to me dubstep sounded like a slowed down version of jungle. same heavy bass, but at times lower bpms

not sure why dubstep has been in the spotlight so much more than other similar genres

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5. "Nah"
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I'd say it came from UK garage, and funky coalescing

  

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6. "RE: Is "Bigger than Hip Hop" the origin of Dubstep?"
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Thu Apr-12-12 11:26 AM by double 0

          

I have been thinkin bout this shit for like 3 years.... lol.. I would say that it was... but I dont kno what was goin on in the UK at the time... (Grime I think)

Dub, jungle all that shit tho.. has it's roots in reggae so thats the OG everything

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8. "you could make a case for the mainstream version but"
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the original styles of Kode9, The Bug and them are undeniably 2-step rooted and bear almost no resemblance to what the majority of folks call dubstep today.


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Thu Apr-12-12 02:43 PM

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9. "that bassline and hi-hats on the 16th notes was more in line w/ crunk"
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Thu Apr-12-12 02:45 PM by T Reynolds

  

          

shit

it WAS very different than most shit dropping at the same time

especially as a new york record

but I think that was the point

they were trying to get cats crunk for the revolution lol

so they used a ride-out bassline with some crunk ass drums

I think the similarities to dubstep end there cause dubstep isn't really danceable in the same way

I agree that it has more in line with the energy it's trying to build with jungle, and drum n bass

which are predecessors of dubstep

  

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