4. "RE: because they're not that good" In response to Reply # 3
They are a solid band though. The problem is there are not that many good rock acts comming up any more. Therefore when a pretty solid band comes out ie Kings of Leon, Black Keys etc. come out every one gravitates toward them and their talent gets over exaggerated.
46. "There's plenty of good bands coming up" In response to Reply # 4
It's just radio won't allow anything that isn't straight ahead rock on the stations. Black Keys aren't horrible but definitely changed their sound to become more radio friendly which they're welcome to do but I'll stick to the early stuff
That's the problem..... I'm sure someone on here can rattle off a bunch of names but the vast majority of us couldn't, myself included.
I've listened to all of their albums and consider myself a fan, I still think that their almost legendary status right now is slightly exaggerated though.
7. "LMAO..who the fuck said "legendary?" " In response to Reply # 6
>I've listened to all of their albums and consider myself a >fan, I still think that their almost legendary status right >now is slightly exaggerated though.
8. "RE: LMAO..who the fuck said "legendary?" " In response to Reply # 7
No one here said legendary. That's the impression I get out there though in talking to people... Maybe legendary is a little over the top but their talent is def. exaggerated.
They are still a tight band and Im not mad at them. I guess all I'm saying is that I wish there where more modern bands out there that where at least on the same level talent wise right now as the Black Keys.
9. "I was thinking about this exact thing yesterday..." In response to Reply # 8 Mon Apr-09-12 02:43 PM by Crash85
>I guess >all I'm saying is that I wish there where more modern bands >out there that where at least on the same level talent wise >right now as the Black Keys.
Because I really don't buy or even listen to too much new rock music... I'm basically down to the Black Keys and the Deftones... I really wish there were more...
edit: I'm not saying there aren't any good rock bands out besides the Deftones and Black Keys, but not really any that have caught my ear...
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10. "should check for that new Jack White, shits going to be cool." In response to Reply # 5
Also, Alabama Shakes (been talked about a bit on this board). Grizzly Bear, Fleet Foxes, Tame Impala, The Vaccines, PJ Harvey, Titus Andronicus, The Shins, Andrew Bird, St. Vincent .
Rock is dope right now, people just don't know shit.
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12. "RE: should check for that new Jack White, shits going to be cool." In response to Reply # 10
Yea that new Jack White sounds pretty good from what I have heard so far.
I've checked out a couple of bands Like The Fleet Foxes Grizly Bear and The Shins. I def. gotta check out Alabama Shakes.
A lot of these bands deserve more credit than what they are getting. I guess that's been the case for good quality music for a while now though. Even the Black Keys have been around for 10 years now without getting their proper shine until very recently.
I've known about Grizzly Bear for a few years and got friends who hyped me up on St. Vincent and Andrew Bird... I think Grizzly Bear is alright... But I really couldn't get into St. Vincent or Andrew Bird...
Shins are dope, but I haven't heard their new album..
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17. "most of the folks you naming aren't doing what the BK's are doing" In response to Reply # 10
>Also, Alabama Shakes (been talked about a bit on this board). >Grizzly Bear, Fleet Foxes, Tame Impala, The Vaccines, PJ >Harvey, Titus Andronicus, The Shins, Andrew Bird, St. Vincent >. > >Rock is dope right now, people just don't know shit.
28. "was in reference to a post earlier saying they "wished"" In response to Reply # 19
their were more talented bands out there.
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44. "yea, anyone who hasn't heard St. Vincent's "Strange Mercy" needs to" In response to Reply # 10
very very cool rock shit.. whole album goes pretty hard..
and regarding the Black Keys.. i know this thread isn't really *about* them... but i haven't really been much of a fan since Rubber Factory... and imho, i think they're lucky the White Stripes hung up their cleats... i always held a little personal "grudge" against the keys for being in the same lane as the stripes and not as good or creative lol..
61. "YALL NIGGAS NEED TO POST SOME LINKS WTF" In response to Reply # 10
>Also, Alabama Shakes (been talked about a bit on this board). >Grizzly Bear, Fleet Foxes, Tame Impala, The Vaccines, PJ >Harvey, Titus Andronicus, The Shins, Andrew Bird, St. Vincent >. > >Rock is dope right now, people just don't know shit.
15. "They Overratted IMO " In response to Reply # 0 Mon Apr-09-12 03:36 PM by aesop socks
They sound generic to me. They try to be bluesy and soulful but it fails. The lead singer don't have the voice for it. IMO rock is in just as bad shape as hiphop, boring bands like Bon Iver, Fleet Foxes winning right now. The Black Keys are alright can't believe they are one of the biggest bands out there. The bands I like Deerhunter, Bombay Bicycle Club, Ty Segall, Jacuzzi Boys I don't see them blowing up. Maybe Cage The Elephant has a chance.
18. "I appreciate this post. Ima check those bands n/m" In response to Reply # 15
>They sound generic to me. They try to be bluesy and soulful >but it fails. The lead singer don't have the voice for it. IMO >rock is in just as bad shape as hiphop, boring bands like Bon >Iver, Fleet Foxes winning right now. The Black Keys are >alright can't believe they are one of the biggest bands out >there. The bands I like Deerhunter, Bombay Bicycle Club, Ty >Segall, Jacuzzi Boys I don't see them blowing up. Maybe Cage >The Elephant has a chance.
22. "Deerhunter's Halcyon Digest better than any Keys album." In response to Reply # 20
But i'm not trying to compare or say who's better than who.Even though I kinda started to. The bands I listed are just my personal preference. I don't expect folks to agree. The Black Keys don't appeal to me that's all.
And what the entire hell were Black Keys doing bringing out John Fogerty at Coachella and covering 'The Weight'? I take back at least 15% of the bad things I've said about them in the past. At LEAST. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu2h9XbTpOU&feature=related
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23. "Not a big fan, but that's probably my ambivalence toward blues rock" In response to Reply # 0 Mon Apr-09-12 09:49 PM by TomWaitsInOkkervil
In terms of rock bands right now I'm looking more toward The Walkmen, Spoon, Arctic Monkeys, Titus Andronicus, Wilco, Arcade Fire, The National, Deerhunter, Destroyer, My Morning Jacket, etc.
27. "alternatives for blues-rock?" In response to Reply # 26
I will admit I'm kind of mystified by the current scale of the Keys' success, when it's mostly among people who talk about how they're a great iteration of the blues, but those same people don't actually listen to blues.
It's funny, I'm currently ripping a Fat Possum sampler from 1994 as I type this. Who woulda guessed then that Fat Possum's biggest success would be two skinny white dudes who look like extras from Flight of the Conchords. The Jon Spencer/RL Burnside collabos did a lot for RL and Fat Possum, but I'm not sure they did a lot for blues.
The band's not bad, but I just kinda think they're redundant when I've got records Butterfield's 'East West', the Who's 'The Who Sing My Generation', Allmans records as well as plenty of blues that doesn't cross over into rock territory close at hand.
34. "i'm kinda burnt out on traditional" In response to Reply # 27 Tue Apr-10-12 11:54 AM by hardware
i grew up with the 70's stuff like Albert King and the regional R&B stuff like Denise LaSalle when i found the internet i got heavy into stuff from the 30's on back
but now i'm more interested in stuff coming out of my own generation and the Keys have that more polished 70's sound i can get with. Nowadays i'm just kind of getting into blues rock and psychedelic stuff thats a bit funky and moody at the same time
the thing thats hard to find is a singer i can stand. i like Dan's voice. its got just the right amount of dirty white guy.
very cool that you're versed on the source material that informs their rootsier side. I've met more than enough people in life that say they love blues; their favorite blues guitarist is Eric Clapton.
Hearing your take on why you're getting into that sound now is cool for me as well; I grew up on a steady diet of rock, and followed (and am still following) the roots backward, but feel kinda like I heard enough similar sounding stuff in my youth.
Trusting you may have heard Dirtbombs 'Ultraglide in Black' - it's a decade old now, and more toward soul than blues, but does one of the better jobs I've heard of fusing old Black music with newer sounds.
53. "Other old bands: The Gun Club, The Delta 72" In response to Reply # 48
both well before their time, both may well sound relatively current to you if you like the Black Keys, though these are both more punk than the Keys as far as I can tell.
29. "I'm gonna try and put up Glossary here again" In response to Reply # 26
they're a relatively unknown independent band from tennessee they can have a sorta southern country/gospel feel to them in some songs, but i love these guys (and girl) and think they could fit the bill. http://www.glossary.us/ their fifth album has always been free on their website, and there's videos for some of their songs there
there is this buy bahamas (afie jurvanen) from toronto, he gets classified as folk a lot, but they way he plays his guitar on his sophomore album barchords and the songs he sings could sorta fit in with how the black keys sometimes sound lately.
the band Zeus, from toronto, i'm not sure if they'd really fit your recommendation, but they evoke something classic-rocky very well
they arent really black keysy at all, but two cotton jones songs, blood red sentimental blues and i am the changer, i think are really good and fit the vibe of some of the black keys slower stuff
have you listened to jessica lea mayfields albums? she's put out to pretty impressive LPs with really strong songwriting for someone her age, and dan auerbach loves her and produced both the albums, id say look for her second one Tell Me
im not totally sure if they fit, but check out Blitzen Trapper either way, their album Furr was really strong.
im actually struggling to think of these without my music in front of me
41. "RE: this Zeus is dope" In response to Reply # 35
yeah they just put out a new record so i'm probably gonna go back and check their stuff out soon, i was going off memory and they sound pretty strong live.
yeah i think my head was in more of a auerbach place, when the night comes and whatnot. theres the dead weather, but jack white was mentioned up there already. do you like the arctic monkeys? they were opening for them, a couple of their recent b sides are great.
if you like the 2 man dynamic theres japandroids, or PS I Love You, tho they don't really make that kind of music. I'm being very Canadian right now, im struggling lol its not that easy to nail that kinda guitar and blues.
51. "cool, you have me trying to dig into this 'genre'" In response to Reply # 45
i've seen Joe Bonamassa's name thrown around with those two, but i'm not sure if i like it quite as much. i actually didn't know about gary clark jr., im liking his sound.
you might like the Delta Saints http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aKj3mgBIKQ&feature=relmfu theres some related songs to Black Rebel Motorcycle club which might fit the rootsy bill, and then The Muggs had some decent sounding instumental stuff. lol this is how im researching
i still want to suggest you try glossary's free album, i really think the sound could fit with some of the stuff in here, they've recently gotten a more country sound but this album was much more thoroughly blues rock throughout and i think the guitar sound fits and his voice works enough. try the songs Blood on the Knobs, Bitter Branch, Little Caney, i personally love Only Time Will Tell and Gasoline Soaked Heart. http://www.glossary.us/audio/tbaoon/mp3/320/Glossary-TBAOON_320_mp3.zip if ya don't like it delete it, they don't really have good youtube options tho lol.
33. "I remember hearing El-P's "Fantastic Damage" for the 1st time" In response to Reply # 0 Tue Apr-10-12 11:49 AM by ABROCK33
and thinking that this is more hip hop than sounding than anything I had heard up to that point in years
not suprisingly it got written off as alt rap lol
I never heard the Black Keys but I agree w the premise of your post
this hip hop now is illusionairy music its like a drug
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47. "But but but Odd Future isn't celebratory music " In response to Reply # 0
I agree about hip hop being a far cry from it's street and blue collar roots. The last ppl I can remember that did it well was early Kanye (He's anything but now but the whole underdog thing was his main appeal for awhile) and Little Brother
49. "I'm messing with Fleet Foxes right now" In response to Reply # 0
They're pretty folky but they're a prime example of how blue collar and every other genre of music is getting..
I completely agree with this thread, I think it's so BS when someone like Russell Simons tries to say rap is the poetry of the streets...
NO, rap is now the synthetic cash cow that preys on the mind of the less and even average fortunate for their vanity and false wishes to be wealthy.. these empty wants, feed the pockets of the conglomerate company execs and their shareholders
54. "blue collar ppl don't listen to folk music though" In response to Reply # 49
>They're pretty folky but they're a prime example of how blue >collar and every other genre of music is getting..
Way back in the day, maybe.
But blue collar black folks listen to Ross and Rihiana.
Blue collar white folks rock to Nickelback, Insane Clown Posse, and Country and Western.
My construction working Mexicano peeps still rocking that Norteno, Narco-Corrido, or Tejano. Them PR's and DR painters and delivery men are on that Reggaeton. (at least that's what I hear blasting out the windows in their hoods)
The main audience for blues, folk, and what not is upper crust/white collar folks.
The proverbial roadside Honky Tonk has a dj playing Drake and LMFAO, followed by Nirvana and Journey (or R. Kelly and George Clinton)
59. "Blue collar folks tend to listen to what's on the radio" In response to Reply # 54 Thu Apr-12-12 08:49 AM by Orbit_Established
Because they are tired and don't have the time to sift through obscurity
Doesn't really have anything to do with the post topic, though
Rick Ross has been outed as a fraud and basically makes records lying about his life
And that's COOL
I got no problem with that
But there's a reason why the turnover is so fast in rap now -- kids don't have a connection to the music because they don't relate, which makes them more inclined to just toss shit by the wayside
Look at how fast 50 cent fell
Why? He didn't make music that his generation could IDENTIFY with
It was all flash in the pan rap
If Ying Yang twins goes on tour now, nobody attends
GZA can perform tomorrow in most cities and have at least a *decent* sized show
Its because the former had hits that nobody related to
GZA had smaller hits that people actually connected with
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70. "more than anyone, Drake is connecting with an audience right now" In response to Reply # 59
he's connecting with most of Kanye's male fans, while also obviously being mega huge with the women. I would've said Wayne was the last megastar, but Drake actually seems poised to usurp him at the rate he's going.
73. "Appreciate this..." In response to Reply # 72
>if u want that raw garage rock sound you gotta fuck with thee >oh sees. their last album was insane. > >ty segall >white fence >paul cary > >the whole underground garage rock movement right now is the >best shit goin in music.
77. "act nice and gentle to me = LEGIT" In response to Reply # 0
thats a track title to their album Rubber Factory. i havent listened to any of their other stuff really, i have Camino on my iTunes but never really listen to it.
but damn. this act nice song is NICE (c) Fab voice
84. "Can we talk more about Ty Segall?" In response to Reply # 0
I copped his discography and started off with Hair. Loved it. Slaughterhouse, not so much. Listening to Twins and it sounds like it's in the middle of those two. If I liked Hair should I go for the White Fences sound more? What's your favorite album?
85. "Slaughterhouse is my fav. Then Goodbye Bread." In response to Reply # 84
The man puts out so much music I really need to catch up. But Slaughterhouse is right up my ally, loud guitars I like his approach vocally shit fucken rocks best way I can describe it.
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