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"I revisited BDK's "Looks like a job for" and damn if it aint solid"
Mon Apr-09-12 11:52 AM by ABROCK33

  

          

I'm not gonna compare it to LLK or IBDT cuz these are both "grailish"

but still LLJF is very solid and above respectable

the highs/top 5 songs on here are equal if not better than the top 5 on IBDT


what seperates it from some of his other lps tho is that it doesnt dip that low..for the most this lp plays from front to back

take away the 2 softies "Very special" and "give it to me"

Kane Fans lets admit that him only haveing 2 softies on a record was nothing compared to some of the foolishness on Taste of Chocolate and Prince of Darkness which only had 5 listenable songs BETWEEN them and no classics.


at the time (93-94) hip hop and changed and Kanes name didnt mean as much as it did 7 years earlier. This was truley a redemtion project for true Kane fans starting w the lead single the solid but not spectacular "how u get a record deal"

Critics wern't really feeling the inclusion of the "WolfpacK"-Scoob, Scrap and Lil Daddy Shane grabbinbg mic duties but I actually enjoy all those songs (Chocolate city, here comes kane, scoob and scrap and brother man, brother man) even if they are a bit more light hearted and party themed than the aggresive battle style Kane. It was like you and your boys in the basement. in retrospect none of them were in Kanes class but The Wolfpack wernt that bad either.


not to mention the production is Very GOOD ON THE LP w contributios from Cool V, Extra P and Easy Moe B. I would love to have heard Biggie RYME over Easy Moes "Rest in Peace" as its rough aggresive sound woulda fit right on Ready to Die


any respectable BDK Gretest songs comp would be remiss not to include "The beef is on", "Stop shammin", "Nuff respect rmx","niggaz never learn" and the PHENOMANAL "Rest in peace"

again 5 songs you would immediatly insert in the BDK cannon of his greatest songs...

it was the official return to his hard style

what do you guys think?

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forced to serve-too broke to by freedom
the systematic rape of African culture has begun
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agreed
Apr 09th 2012
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he really did himself wrong w back to back whack
Apr 09th 2012
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      1993 release....he had no shot @ all
Apr 09th 2012
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           wow..yeah he had no chance
Apr 09th 2012
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                I wouldn't say old school
Apr 09th 2012
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                     u took the works right out my mouth about Daddys Home
Apr 09th 2012
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                          RE: u took the works right out my mouth about Daddys Home
Apr 09th 2012
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                          thanks Ive been interested in that lp for awhile
Apr 09th 2012
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                          RE: thanks Ive been interested in that lp for awhile
Apr 09th 2012
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                          thats a powerful rhyme
Apr 09th 2012
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                          re Daddy's home - nothing to go hunting for
Apr 09th 2012
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                          RE: u took the works right out my mouth about Daddys Home
Apr 09th 2012
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he MURDERED mike on "Stop Shammin"
Apr 09th 2012
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uh..brother.....brougham..
Apr 09th 2012
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i regularly bang 'howd u get a record deal'
Apr 09th 2012
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the beat is sick, Trackmasterz finest work
Apr 09th 2012
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love that fuckin' record
Apr 09th 2012
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      yup... video is classic too
Apr 09th 2012
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remembering liking that album a lot
Apr 09th 2012
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RE: remembering liking that album a lot
Apr 09th 2012
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Ehhhhh.....
Apr 09th 2012
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RE: I revisited BDK's "Looks like a job for" and damn if it aint solid
Apr 09th 2012
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Selah
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1. "agreed"
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too bad he had already burned the bridge with the pseudo-loverman albums

but you are definitely on point with this call

  

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2. "he really did himself wrong w back to back whack"
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Mon Apr-09-12 11:56 AM by ABROCK33

  

          

Taste of chocolate and Prince of Darkness

they were back to back terrible albums

what does he do for an encore after poseing shirtles on the lp cover? he comes back in a seer sucker suit as a siloutee in a window

by the time LLJF came around not many people includeing previous BDK fans were realy even checking for him

the lp came and went even with the positive buzz from "how u get a record deal"



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"Good hair"-Uzi

1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores
thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?)
forced to serve-too broke to by freedom
the systematic rape of African culture has begun
little time

  

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7. "1993 release....he had no shot @ all"
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look at what else dropped that year

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/musicman07/1993_hip_hop

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Madvillain/ego_trips_25_greatest_hip_hop_albums_1993

there as WAY too much good stuff for folks to even really be checking for him that hard, and though it did have some good cuts it was too late

  

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8. "wow..yeah he had no chance"
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Kane was "old skool" at that point

that didnt stop me from still coppin the cassette on the first day it dropped tho

like u say the landscape of hip hop had changed tho

he wasnt the "drake" any longer

u realize that was his 5th lp allready

he was already 3/4 into his recording career when some cats were just gettin started

yeah im old

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"Good hair"-Uzi

1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores
thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?)
forced to serve-too broke to by freedom
the systematic rape of African culture has begun
little time

  

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9. "I wouldn't say old school"
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at that poitn his first album was only 5 years old (not exactly ancient)

the problem may have been overkill (4 albums in four years) before the 2 year break until "looks like"

if you're gonna keep putting out that much music you can't afford a strek of so-so

two monster albums
followed by trainwreck...twice

at this point he was very much seen as a "had your shot and fumbled."

at best those like us who bought it and were pleased with it were just happy to get that "prince of darkness" scum off us. when he followed "look like" with "daddy's home" cats thought he was back on that foolishness (the cover alone turned folks off) and missed another decent album

  

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11. "u took the works right out my mouth about Daddys Home"
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even after he redeemed himself in my eyes w LLJ4

I didnt go anywhere near Daddys Home SOLELY based on the cover

a bathrobe, w a mug of coffe lookin like he just rolled out of bed? Ill pass..

that being said since u brought it up

how was Daddys Home and Veterenz Day? I never heard either of them

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"Good hair"-Uzi

1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores
thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?)
forced to serve-too broke to by freedom
the systematic rape of African culture has begun
little time

  

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13. "RE: u took the works right out my mouth about Daddys Home"
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>how was Daddys Home and Veterenz Day? I never heard either of
>them

Here's a review I did of Veteranz Day back when it came out on the Usenet group rec.music.hip-hop

On Tuesday I picked up a couple albums, my first purchases since
Aquemini. I got Big Daddy Kane's Veteranz Day and Xzibit's 40 Dayz
& 40 Nightz. I usually get albums on the first day of release but
Xzibit wasn't released on cassette in Canada until recently, I refuse
to buy CD's when they are just a ploy by the record companies to make
more profit.
I want to say that BDK's album is very nice. I've been a fan of
his since the beginning, one of my first hip hop albums was "It's
A Big Daddy Thing" and I have all 7 of his albums. This one is
getting next to no publicity, so I wanted to post this up. It's
actually funny that I got BDK and Xzibit on the same day since X
to the Z had that line about "before Kane f**ked Madonna" on his
last one. I like Xzibit's new one but it doesn't stack up to "At
the Speed of Life", I liked the introspective, personal touches of
that one. This one's a little short with not as many thought
provoking rhymes.
But back to Kane, the album's produced mostly by Kane himself
with a few joints by Easy Mo Bee and his brother LG. I thought it
was odd that he couldn't hook up some big name producers since he
has the contacts. Trackmasters used to do his stuff and I imagine
with Primo's love for hip-hop he would have jumped at the chance
to do another BDK track. With that said, the beats are surprisingly
good, Kane has a good ear.
The lyrics are where things really shine though, he hits on a lot
of topics & surprisingly swears very little, if at all for the entire
album. It still has an Explicit Content sticker for the sex rhymes
but in the vein of Rakim and KRS to an extent he stays away from the
uncreative scapegoat of cursing to get his points across. For those
afraid of an album filled with R&B tendencies you'll be happy to hear
that there's only 2 joints with singing on the chorus, no "All of
Me's" here. There's the obvious battle raps with some really clever
punchlines, but also a lot of veteran old school knowledge, as the
title eludes to. He talks about Rule 4080 on "Shame" and gives
respect to his favourite MC's on "Entaprizin'". Ala Pete Rock
there's some instrumental segues btw a few of the tracks and a small
presence of scratching on the album. Not a lot but at least more
than usual for 98. There's no Mr. Cee joint though which is a
disappointment.
The gem on the album has got to be "Do U Really Know?" It's
a beautiful storytelling rhyme where Kane breaks down what could
happen to an MC if he just follows trends. What I love about Kane
is that he has always had conscious rhymes even when it wasn't
trendy. I'm of the Edutainment ilk, where I like my music to say
something, and in a fresh way. For all that I like Aquemini I
don't think Dre and Big Boi really said anything deep on the album,
it surprises me that everyone is describing it that way when there
is really nothing to wrap your mind around like there was on ATLiens.
People are so starved for consciousness, be it political or social
that mole hills look like mountains. I'm digressing, but back to
this song, check out some of the lines:

"That's when this stray cat walked up to me,
Now I was sure he would be,
but you woulda thought he'd know me,
tellin' his life story to me,
he said 'Yo Kane' since way back in his life,
days of Rappers Delight, yo he was after the hype,
he rocked the Kangols, Adidas when Run and them had that spot,
when I came out he had a flat-top,
and when Naughty came out a couple years ago,
he even tried the braids up in his hair, but they ain't hear him tho,
vexed and down, you know next he found,
Heavy D was blowin up so then he tried to gain extra pounds,
no thanks to that, they ranked him wack,
only thing that's left to do, was go gangsta rap,
so now he rhymin' bout the keys being sold,
the G's being fold, the trees being rolled,
now sure he should, he started actin like he's from the hood,
talking thug game and had his record sales doing good,
and so now you on the road to riches,
referring to the womankind as hoes and bitches,
you the man now because you rap is for ?????,
but you got your 7 year old daughter listenin',
the twist begin,
when that the image you projectin',
it starts reflectin' on your shorty cause she checkin',

Do you really know,
what's the path that you really need to go,
and what example you really need to show,
the good rep or the hood rep,
while she's walking in her father's footsteps...

and now you're rappin came back to haunt you,
because you want to,
be in her face,
puffin' li with your crew,
you even let her take a sip or two upon your brew,
instead of tryin to shed light to keep her head right,
so that she wouldn't do the things that the next kid might,
oh now you never did consider tho,
your kid could go,
trying to do the things she saw you do up in your video,
you went upstairs thinkin that she wasn't able,
slippin, left your glock sittin pon the coffee table,
so as you hang, with your gang, doin your thang,
BLOWE, unexpectedly to your ears the shot rang,
came down, never thinkin that you'd see what you saw,
right there, layin in blood across your livin room floor,
so now, as you sit in grief, total disbelief,
cause everything that ever mattered,
to you is all shattered,
instead of concentratin' heavily on what your rep be,
you should have been thankful for your child like Cheryl Pepsi,
cause if you would have stayed aware,
to whose in your care,
she wouldn't be no casualty to your career"

That is one of the best rhymes I've heard in awhile, and it's
really complemented by his flow. Unfortunately I imagine this
album will lounge in obscurity, similar to other old skoolers
who are ignored like Nice N' Smooth. I swear, if someone else
had freaked the sample they did on "Let It Go" it would have
been huge. With no support from the print media or video channels
these legends who still have a lot to say will continue to be
ignored. The guy beside me at the record store said to me "Big
Daddy Kane has a new album???" with a puzzled look on his face,
yes he does and I think you should check it out.

Patrick

  

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14. "thanks Ive been interested in that lp for awhile"
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but didnt want to waste my money on it

yeah I still buy cds

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1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores
thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?)
forced to serve-too broke to by freedom
the systematic rape of African culture has begun
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16. "RE: thanks Ive been interested in that lp for awhile"
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Cool, yeah I had to finally stop listening to tapes when I sold my 98 Honda Civic last year and bought a Chevy Volt! Here's the Youtube link of the song I quoted "Do U Really Know":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3UZLbHUOkM

Patrick

  

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20. "thats a powerful rhyme"
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1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores
thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?)
forced to serve-too broke to by freedom
the systematic rape of African culture has begun
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15. "re Daddy's home - nothing to go hunting for"
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i can't think of anything worth bothering with

it wasn't offensive...just "meh"

  

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19. "RE: u took the works right out my mouth about Daddys Home"
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Daddy's Home was actually pretty close to Looks Like a Job For in style, despite the album cover. It tried to cover a bit more ground (a socially conscious track, a west coast track) and failed at that. But the 8-9 in that classic early nineties NY style are pretty much on par with those on LLAJ4 in my book.

Actually looking at the tracklisting the first 6 tracks make up an excellent EP, very similar to LLAJ4 in sound and style. The rest is hit and miss.

Veteranz Day I never cared for. He sounded outdated by then.

I actually met him back in 04 or 05, when there were rumors of him doing a record with Alchemist. I asked him about it, and he was like "Nah, I'm done doing albums, I don't wanna be that old guy making a fool of himself. I had my time." Seemed like a really nice guy.

  

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3. "he MURDERED mike on "Stop Shammin""
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5. "uh..brother.....brougham.."
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Mon Apr-09-12 12:11 PM by ABROCK33

  

          

Kane flexed styles all over the place on this lp

this is also where a lot of his vocal inflections and vocal nuances really showed themselves

I would venture to say that Jay Z studied this lp

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"Good hair"-Uzi

1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores
thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?)
forced to serve-too broke to by freedom
the systematic rape of African culture has begun
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4. "i regularly bang 'howd u get a record deal'"
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6. "the beat is sick, Trackmasterz finest work"
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its so subtly jazzy and bassy

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"Good hair"-Uzi

1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores
thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?)
forced to serve-too broke to by freedom
the systematic rape of African culture has begun
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10. "love that fuckin' record"
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that's the main reason I bought that LP

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12. "yup... video is classic too"
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altho the edits are kinda funny

but for fun check that out on youtube if you havent seen in a while

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17. "remembering liking that album a lot"
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http://da-dk.facebook.com/BoomClapBachelors

  

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18. "RE: remembering liking that album a lot"
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I need to listen to this joint again...havent heard it since the 90's

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21. "Ehhhhh....."
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I may have to revisit it, but if memory serves even tossing out the wackest joints, it still was below average. I've said before, I loved the beat on 'How you Get A Record Deal', but as soon as Kane said 'Niggidy Nuthin' I was through with him. Everybody was riding the shit out of that Das Efx thing. Kane didn't have to. He was Big Daddy fucking Kane. But no, once he started following, I couldn't clap to him anymore.

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22. "RE: I revisited BDK's "Looks like a job for" and damn if it aint solid"
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Are you kidding me??? You dudes need to give Daddy's Home another chance, tht joint is nice to me. Production wise, the sounds of the album are dope 90's sound. Primocame with one of the more underrated posse cuts with Show & Prove. His delivery sounded like he was still enjoying being in the booth. Easy Mo Bee came with a sonic banger on The Way It's Going Down, the bass sound that he used was tough and horns mmmm. And then they came back with another old school sounding track with Somebody's Been Sleeping In My Bed.

Better go back and listen to that joint, don't sleep.

Doitall76

BTW, his new album with Connie Price and The Keystones is quite nice and will surprise the sh!t out of you.

  

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