""Just rhymin w Biz" was the 1st recorded real freestyle/of the the "
top of the head rhyme?
again according to Moe D BDK's verse was off the top of the head and prior to this "freestyle" had never been RECORDED on wax before
for those of you who have read his book is thats what he was saying? cuz thats what I think he said
supposedly it was a track Marley Made for Frick & frack that Biz and Kane heard and just goofin around got on it
Frick & Fracks verses got cut cuz they wernt on cold chillin
what was left sounded good and was pressed up on a 12" and the rest is history
if this is true I wonder why a bigger deal was never made about this song?
also was this common knowledge prior to Moe D saying it?
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2. "RE: it was a radio freestyle" In response to Reply # 1 Mon Apr-02-12 10:55 AM by ABROCK33
so they were in studio rhyming live?
I think that contradicts what Moe D said
he said it was a Frick and frack song intially
but in any case is this the first recorded "freestyle"?
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3. "i don't know where they were recording" In response to Reply # 2
it was a freestyle played on the radio they cut off frick and frack and put it on bdk's lp the raw remix? it's from the kool g rap and kane freestyle played on the radio. then after the remix verse from that freestyle, the regular version comes on
that's all i know. i got the version where they call frick and frack to the mic and then it cuts off like on the lp version, when he says, do i come off, yup and the music cuts off well on this one, the music keeps playin' and he goes 1,2 1,2 frick and frack etc.then it cuts off
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11. "Marley talks about it in "Check the technique"" In response to Reply # 3
Frick and Frack wernt signed to Cold Chillen so they couldnt use their verses
BDK also spoke on Raw. The original Raw was already recorded. Him and G Rap used to have a friendly comeptition and call each other and read each other rhymes on the phone. In the studio Marley let the Raw reel roll and GRap just hopped on and spit some writtens
>like on the lp version, when he says, do i come off, yup >and the music cuts off >well on this one, the music keeps playin' and he goes 1,2 1,2 >frick and frack etc.then it cuts off
good stuff
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1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
13. "Marley Marl quote about the song" In response to Reply # 3
Check the technique pg 42
speaking on "Just rhymin w Biz"
"Frick & Frack was actually on that one, originally. It was just a two-track I lifted off the dat tape. The track just happened, when the beat was playing. Kane just started out with. "Check it out yall..." and it went from there.....Frick and Frack wern't signed to Cold Chillin at the time so I cut there verses off.
between this and KMD's quote below it points to BDK's verse beeing off the top of the dome.
Ive never heard this pointedly asked to BDK tho but I would love to hear his answer.
-------------------- "Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
5. "who stated that it was written and not freestyled?" In response to Reply # 4 Mon Apr-02-12 11:46 AM by ABROCK33
this is the essence of what I am getting at
did Kane himself say this
if u listen to it it "sounds" like its could be off the top of the head
compare it to Kanes written raps at the time. he is def a better writer than that
i need clarity
because if this indeed was freestyled as Moe D said this was monumental
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1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
6. "can anyone give insight?" In response to Reply # 5
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1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
8. "Biz was no way possible freestyled..." In response to Reply # 5
...he never wrote a rhyme that dope ..thats Kane's pen ...Kane's verse might be partly improvised at times, but thats an incredibly dope verse to just make up on the spot ..but yeah, i got no proof
9. "agree bout Biz but still dont c where BDK's verse wasnt off the top" In response to Reply # 8 Mon Apr-02-12 08:10 PM by ABROCK33
>...he never wrote a rhyme that dope ..thats Kane's pen >
agreed Biz's verse is obviously written
>...Kane's verse might be partly improvised at times, but thats >an incredibly dope verse to just make up on the spot ..but >yeah, i got no proof>
I don't know if youve read Kool Moe D's book but Ima put up the direct quote where he states BDK is freestyleing of the top of the dome when I can...probally tommarow.
He also makes a point to differintiate the off the top of the dome freestyling that became popular later (mid 90s) from freestyling in the sense of a "no main topic rhyme"
KMD is credible s far as I know
-------------------- "Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
12. "Kool Moe D quote stateing Kane's verse was off the dome" In response to Reply # 0
There's a god on the mic pg 306
"What Kane has contributed to the game can never be denied. One of his most overlooked contributions is how he set the trend to change the terms of freestyle. Until, 1986, all freestyles were written. Any emcee coming off the top of the head wasnt really respected. The sentiment was emcees only did that if they couldnt write. The coming off the top of the head rhymer had a built in excuse to not be critiqued as hard. That all changed when Kane and Biz Markie recorded "Just rhymin with Biz"
The word on the street was that a tape of Biz Markie and this new emcee BDK and they were just fooling around, rhyming off the top of the head. That tape turned into a hot single and changed the perception of what a freestyle was....
-------------------- "Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
14. "I cant let this drop" In response to Reply # 0
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-------------------- "Good hair"-Uzi
1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?) forced to serve-too broke to by freedom the systematic rape of African culture has begun little time
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