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d-bwoyFLOW
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"biggest gap in quality between albums"


          

common going from like water to electric circus was fuckin unacceptable.

it's crazy lookin at dylan's discog.
you got the folk run
then you got the electric iconic trilogy
then two very underrated country tinged minor classics
and THEN you got self portrait
i mean.........what the fuck. i know theres theories that bob released self portrait on some self sabotage shit but i dunno....but honestly lookin at how great his music was up to the point i guess it's not unthinkable, even tho there was some warning signs on nashville skyline.

i thought rae wuz spittin on immobilarity or whatevawhateva. but he went from rza's finest production ever to z-list generic garbo. damn.

talking heads goin from remain in light an up to that point every album had been a step up in quality, then they drop speaking in tongues which ain't awful but c'mon son. reamin in light might be the best album of the 80s. an once speaking in tongues dropped it wuz a wrap. they were neva the same.

i ain't heard them but from what i hear, marv's album post-here my dear are str8 trash. so that would seem to be a good one.

i guess you can do it the other way as well. how mobb deep stepped they game up from that generic garbage juvevine hell to the infamous i'll never know. crazy step up in quality.

radiohead goin from pablo honey to the bends is another.

  

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Mar 20th 2012
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Electric Circus is fantastic
Mar 20th 2012
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Yep.
Mar 20th 2012
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nuh uh.
Mar 20th 2012
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no
Mar 20th 2012
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I think we can all agree that it's polarizing
Mar 20th 2012
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Prince, man.
Mar 20th 2012
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the reply i deleted was about prince. lol
Mar 20th 2012
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      LOL
Mar 20th 2012
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           RE: LOL
Mar 20th 2012
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Songs In the Key of Life....to Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants...
Mar 20th 2012
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Group Home's Livin' Proof to A Tear For The Ghetto
Mar 20th 2012
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RE: Group Home's Livin' Proof to A Tear For The Ghetto
Mar 20th 2012
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      I might agree on the production tip....
Mar 20th 2012
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Illmatic --> Nas's career
Mar 20th 2012
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RE: Illmatic --> Nas' career
Mar 20th 2012
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      with Nas, it's IWW to the album following.
Mar 20th 2012
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           RE: with Nas, it's IWW to the album following.
Mar 20th 2012
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Goodie Mob (Still Standing to World Party)
Mar 20th 2012
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RE: Goodie Mob "Still Standing" to "World Party"
Mar 20th 2012
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RE: Goodie Mob (Still Standing to World Party)
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Joe Corn Mo
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1. "-"
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Tue Mar-20-12 03:27 PM by Joe Corn Mo

  

          

nevermind

  

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astralblak
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2. "Electric Circus is fantastic"
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Brew
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3. "Yep."
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SoWhat
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5. "nuh uh."
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fuck you.

  

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Selah
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17. "no"
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Dr Claw
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20. "I think we can all agree that it's polarizing"
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Tue Mar-20-12 05:20 PM by Dr Claw

  

          

Nas's is like that too, now that I mention it. it's either "it's POO POO" or "naw, dogg... it was GOOD!"

  

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SoWhat
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4. "Prince, man."
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PRINCE!

from Dirty Mind in 1980 all the way through Sign o' the Times in 1987 his output was nearly flawless. then 1988's Lovesexy was good but not great. and 1989's Batman was...well, a soundtrack throwaway/cash grab. and 1990's Graffiti Bridge was...not even as good as Lovesexy. and 1991's D & P was another desperate cash grab. and 1992's O(+> made me wince. and after that the new albums started hurting my feelings, for the most part.

fuck you.

  

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Joe Corn Mo
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7. "the reply i deleted was about prince. lol"
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mostly b/c i can't stand "lovesexy."




i only dig one or two of the songs.

the album cover is beyond disturbing to me.

the CD was sequenced so that all the songs were placed on to one track, so i couldn't skip ahead to the 2 or 3 songs i liked.

prince should never rap. neither should his friends.



and i swear, i wish i could just not be bothered by that album cover
but i just can't unsee it whenever i hear a song from this album.
prince is the only man in the history of men
that looks MORE masculine when he is wearing women's clothing.

it disturbs me on levels that i can't describe.
that cover hasn't gotten any easier to look at as i've gotten older.




  

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SoWhat
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9. "LOL"
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that cover....

i was just getting into Prince when the album was released. i knew he was the act for me when i saw that. not b/c i was attracted to him (never have been), but b/c i thought it was so outlandish. and the way that flower part is used to take the place of his penis? i LOL'd.

striking imagery for sure.

as for the album, i feel you. i had/have a serious affinity for 'Alphabet Street' (it was the song that made me ask my friend to make me a Prince tape...he dubbed all of Sign o' the Times and put that song at the end). it's quirky and weird and on the verge of dissonance, in a way. i think the album is full of moments like that. off-key stuff. strange rhythms. rapping that makes me wince. it's a mixed bag, made more difficult to take b/c of the single track sequencing.

i've heard the story about the alleged ecstasy trip that inspired the Black Album withdrawal. after i took some drugs myself, i became convinced Prince is familiar w/psychedelics based on this album and several of his other recordings from that era. he made too much trippy music for a person w/little knowledge of psychedelics.

fuck you.

  

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Joe Corn Mo
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11. "RE: LOL"
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> he made too much trippy music for a person w/little
>knowledge of psychedelics.


that's interesting.
i've always gone back and forth
about how much prince took drugs.

i believe the story about ecstacy before the black album, though.

  

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SoWhat
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6. "Songs In the Key of Life....to Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants..."
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c'mon, man!

fuck you.

  

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Dr Claw
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8. "Group Home's Livin' Proof to A Tear For The Ghetto"
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but that's a given. it was some cuts on the latter, but they sounded straight out of a hood basement recording studio in comparison.

in the same vein you could say Jeru's WRATH OF THE MATH to HEROZ4HIRE. man, that album kind made me mad with how much bullshit it was beyond the lead single and "Seinfeld". At a time where his message/voice was desperately needed... man.

I think that album was one of the many that kept me listening to yacht rock and shit in the late '90s. I still have a lot of disdain for a good amount of that era of music outside of the stuff that turned the lights on for this site.

meh.

oh yeah. This might be controversial: But Redman's MUDDY WATERS To DOC's DA NAME 2000 was a pretty big leap. Red's lyrics were still pretty damn good, the beats didn't quite hit like the ones on that album prior. That album wasn't doo doo (the next album he released was) but it was an omen of sorts.

As I said in the Ice Cube post, hip-hop in the late '90s/early '00s had some extra-clean, wack sounding beats. unfortunately, that was the era of its highest chart dominance.

  

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d-bwoyFLOW
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10. "RE: Group Home's Livin' Proof to A Tear For The Ghetto"
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>but that's a given. it was some cuts on the latter, but they
>sounded straight out of a hood basement recording studio in
>comparison.
>
>in the same vein you could say Jeru's WRATH OF THE MATH to
>HEROZ4HIRE. man, that album kind made me mad with how much
>bullshit it was beyond the lead single and "Seinfeld". At a
>time where his message/voice was desperately needed... man.
>
>I think that album was one of the many that kept me listening
>to yacht rock and shit in the late '90s. I still have a lot of
>disdain for a good amount of that era of music outside of the
>stuff that turned the lights on for this site.
>
>meh.
>
>oh yeah. This might be controversial: But Redman's MUDDY
>WATERS To DOC's DA NAME 2000 was a pretty big leap. Red's
>lyrics were still pretty damn good, the beats didn't quite hit
>like the ones on that album prior. That album wasn't doo doo
>(the next album he released was) but it was an omen of sorts.
>
>As I said in the Ice Cube post, hip-hop in the late '90s/early
>'00s had some extra-clean, wack sounding beats. unfortunately,
>that was the era of its highest chart dominance.
>



i actually thought wrath of tha math wuz a big step down from the sun rises in the east. it was still solid but premo definitely gave him some throw aways. plus jeru's whole bitter ass keep it real message started to grate like a muthafucka.


  

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Dr Claw
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12. "I might agree on the production tip...."
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>i actually thought wrath of tha math wuz a big step down from
>the sun rises in the east. it was still solid but premo
>definitely gave him some throw aways. plus jeru's whole bitter
>ass keep it real message started to grate like a muthafucka.

...but that underlying bitterness is what redeems the album, IMO.

  

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LowOnMyPaper
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13. "Illmatic --> Nas's career"
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*obligatory*

--L--

  

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Dr_Gonzo
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15. "RE: Illmatic --> Nas' career"
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People act like IWW was something that Nas didn't do. I mean, it wasn't Illmatic, but it wasn't trying to be either. And for what it was, it was a great album. Classic, even. All things considered, it was a decent follow up.

  

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Dr Claw
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18. "with Nas, it's IWW to the album following."
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It went from missing a step, to tumbling down the stairs.

still sold, but I really hate some of that late '90s shit, and Nas just made some painful records in that spot.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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Dr_Gonzo
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21. "RE: with Nas, it's IWW to the album following."
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I'll accept that.

  

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DVS
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14. "Goodie Mob (Still Standing to World Party)"
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Tue Mar-20-12 04:42 PM by DVS

  

          

the only song on World Party I can still fuck with is "ICU"

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Dr_Gonzo
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16. "RE: Goodie Mob "Still Standing" to "World Party" "
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"They Don't Dance" was on Still Standing.

I would agree with this, but I don't remember ANYTHING from World Party, and I'm okay with that.

  

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19. "RE: Goodie Mob (Still Standing to World Party)"
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i was gonna say Doggystyle------The Doggfather, but now that u mentioned GMob i don't think anything comes close to that drop off. i was shellshocked.

  

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