http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzi24Nssiow

The most fun I had watching a music video in a while. I'm looking forward to more verses by Earl.

Frank Ocean look like the old cuzo who get the liquor for the younguins.

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that was perfect for them, and Tyler killed it on that last verse.

now i gotta google that white kid lol

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>that was perfect for them, and Tyler killed it on that last verse.

just made me a fan

don't this shit look like mad fun

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having fun, making money THEIR OWN WAY....

it ain't like they got shit else to prove to me.

good shit.

D

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>having fun, making money THEIR OWN WAY....
>
>it ain't like they got shit else to prove to me.
>
>good shit.
>
>D


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>having fun, making money THEIR OWN WAY....

They have white lawyers advising them just like
everyone else

And this song is a bread and butter rap posse
cut

There's almost nothing original or "their way"
about it.


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

breaks into the mainstream via a charged performance on Jimmy Fallon...and manages to get an Adult Swim series out of their persona....

like...once you've seen this happen once...you've seen them all....right?

D

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There's time. If you edit, I'll delete this post
because your offending me with your inability to
think this through clearly:

>breaks into the mainstream via a charged performance on Jimmy
>Fallon...and manages to get an Adult Swim series out of their
>persona....

Uhh. Everybody's path is unique


Lil B's is unique.

So is Drake's.

So was 50s.

So was Eminem's.

So is OF's


Not sure what your point is.


They all went about shit their own way.


I love what OF's done, but it isn't any more
full of integrity or independence than a lot of
acts.


They have white lawyers and businessmen and suits
just like everyone else. There's nothing wrong with
this....but this idea that they're revolutionaries
isn't very true.

They stopped tagging swatzstka's because some white
guy in a suit was like "umm that's bad for business."

They also don't tag 666 nearly as much.

They've toned down the iconography from even a year
ago....good for them, but let's call it like it is.

>like...once you've seen this happen once...you've seen them
>all....right?


Good god. Just attempt


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

point that this particular group made THEIR own way.

>point that this particular group made THEIR own way.

Every group made THEIR way.

Not sure what the fuck your point is.

Your exact point can be made for every single
successful group in the history of any artform.

hell...everybody from Motown was cookie cutter for the most part.

Most artists have to get to a label...have that label push them...THEN they start to get love.

Drake made noise....then got signed to Young Money...and Lil Wayne carried him.

Lil B is probably the closest...but he has yet to parlay his internet success into the level of stuff that OF has.

50 got put on by Dre
so did Eminem.
shit...so did Snoop

name me ONE act (outside of Wu-Tang) that's broke into the game in the manner that OF did, maintaining their artistic integrity...hustling independently?

ain't many.

Cash Money maybe
Rap-a-lot possibly....Suave House to a lesser degree.

but don't make it seem like there is a slew of people breaking into the game their own way.

The people who can pull it off in Odd Future's manner can pretty much be counted on one hand.

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>Your exact point can be made for every single
>successful group in the history of any artform.


No it caint. You in here trollin and arguin for the sake of arguin when
even YOU know the shit you sayin is bullshit. This shit ain't even
arguable. DVS samurai'd all your points without a point into itty bitty
molecules in reply 25. Nothing else to see here.
Have fun.

well... uh...yeah, Kreayshawn just signed a million dollar deal and off of 1 song.

Building internet hype is the new "grinding"

People have been getting signed off of a hit song since forever...hell one of the jobs of imprint labels were to find that hit song then immediately upgrade the artist to the parent companies full fledged roster.

As much as OKP has taken vehement glee in the possible failure of a couple of black kids, you can't argue that they have been pretty popular for going on two years and across multiple projects in that time.

>People have been getting signed off of a hit song since
>forever...hell one of the jobs of imprint labels were to find
>that hit song then immediately upgrade the artist to the
>parent companies full fledged roster.

Kreashawn's rise actually isn't much different: its as
much of a cultural phenomenon as it is a music phenomenon.

She built her rep through iconography and persona. The
whole 'n word' debate derailed her but her following
was substantial and the 'white girl mob' thing was a huge
hit.


>As much as OKP has taken vehement glee in the possible failure
>of a couple of black kids,

Lol




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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

>Kreashawn's rise actually isn't much different: its as
>much of a cultural phenomenon as it is a music phenomenon.

Nope. Kreashawn had a music video that went viral and got her signed/radio play...she had zero presence before this. A bunch of writers had another example for their biannual 'Where is the female white rapper' articles and but she couldn't sell out 200 capacity venues outside of the bay at the height of her powers. The 'N' word debate had no real bubble outside of the hip-hop nerd boards.


>She built her rep through iconography and persona. The
>whole 'n word' debate derailed her but her following
>was substantial and the 'white girl mob' thing was a huge
>hit.

What iconography? What persona? What hit? We are going onto one year later and she hasn't dropped an album or even a second song...

The other examples you have, in particularly Lil B, are a better apt example since there's a tangible following and a career that got built off of it, even if it might be fleeting. Kreayshawn dropped a great single...and thats it.

>>Kreashawn's rise actually isn't much different: its as
>>much of a cultural phenomenon as it is a music phenomenon.
>
>Nope. Kreashawn had a music video that went viral and got her
>signed/radio play...she had zero presence before this.

LOL--

Literally nobody knew who the fuck OF was before the Earl
video. That video went viral and people liked them just
as much because of that dark, twisted video as much as they
did because Earl could spit.

Even 'Yonkers' -- the hype was about the shock value of
the video as much as it was the music.

Their appeal is about culture and young people swagger
just as much as lyrical skills. I like them eons better
than Kreashawn but their hype wasn't that different.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

>>>Kreashawn's rise actually isn't much different: its as
>>>much of a cultural phenomenon as it is a music phenomenon.
>>
>>Nope. Kreashawn had a music video that went viral and got
>her
>>signed/radio play...she had zero presence before this.
>
>LOL--
>
>Literally nobody knew who the fuck OF was before the Earl
>video. That video went viral and people liked them just
>as much because of that dark, twisted video as much as they
>did because Earl could spit.
>
>Even 'Yonkers' -- the hype was about the shock value of
>the video as much as it was the music.
>

Makes it a totally different scenario. Right now there is nothing to separate Kreayshawn from hundreds of one hit wonders that have come and gone through the industry. Only thing I find similar is that the whole 'writers love white girl rappers' angle fits the whole 'suburban black kids rapping!' articles that came around the same time. Audience reaction, body of work, etc..all different. Kreashawn was a damn near perfect pop record at the time...OF just had two videos of black dudes doing 'alternative' dark hip-hop shit.


>Their appeal is about culture and young people swagger
>just as much as lyrical skills. I like them eons better
>than Kreashawn but their hype wasn't that different.

What culture? Id argue Gucci Gucci was a hit strictly based on it's great pop sensibility, not because of her scene...if that song ended up more sinister like Earl or Yonkers we wouldn't be having this conversation. Kreashawn had no culture to offer...it was a bunch of arguably cute hipster chicks throwing up gang signs...a hood/hipster Ke$ha. I can't even say young people swagger because everyone involved in that video was clearly in their 20s..at least OF had the 'How these nigga teens putting this shit out?' and the 'fuck school' chants white kids could relate to.

You can compare OF to her, but I just don't find it a strong link since you can compare OF to pretty much anyone who had a hit video and used that buzz to feed a career. Im arguing less about OF using buzz and 'edgy' (and I use that term loosely) which I agree with then the example you seem to be making that fans cared about Kreayshawn outside of having a hummable single.

I can't even
>say young people swagger because everyone involved in that
>video was clearly in their 20s..at least OF had the 'How these
>nigga teens putting this shit out?' and the 'fuck school'
>chants white kids could relate to.

So he just turned 20 (actually figure 19 since the Yonkers video dropped right at the beginning of 2011) at the height of Goblin and he's one of the oldest members outside of Frank Ocean.

>So he just turned 20 (actually figure 19 since the Yonkers
>video dropped right at the beginning of 2011) at the height of
>Goblin and he's one of the oldest members outside of Frank
>Ocean.

He is 21 years old, stop doing mathematical gynmastics

Kreashawn is less than two years older than that nigga


STFU with the plea cops.


Nobody is shittin on OF


Y'all are REALLY some sensitive old ass skateboarders
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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

lol.

.

a) THIS IS THEIR LANE: Its some BREAD AND BUTTER RAP
SHIT. And despite Tyler's attempts to alienate them
from older groups, this was some LONS, Native Son,
Hieroglyp, Wu-Tangy posse cut swag. A bunch of young,
fun niggas spittin and joking around. It looks like the
93 till infinity video in some ways. They need to EMBRACE
their TALENT.

That thrasher/kill everything/burn schools shit is silly
and it poisoned their music and image. It completely ruined
'Goblin' as an album.

It certainly gamed them fans and sells out their shows,
but it taints their long term appeal.


b) Tyler almost ruins the song with his whining at
the end...serious question: can this dude EVER NOT make it
ABOUT HIM and his vendettas??? What's pathetic about
it is that he's actually an OUTSTANDING MC. He can RHYME
HIS ASS OFF.

BUT He has gone WAAAAAAAY overboard with his
attempts to alientate everyone, though. He's dopest when
he's just a nigga making beats and spittin


c) Earl Sweatshirt is amazing. As in, the hype is worth it,
he's a wunderkind, the next shit. He's also waaay ahead
of everyone else in terms of perspective and persona...he
...genuinely seems like a different type of nigga...I don't
see him fucking with this foolishness much longer.



d) I like Hodgy's verse. I think he's awful 75% of the time
but he might be a Kanye West type rapper who improves with
time and effort....he seems to CARE about rapping...the same
way Kanye CARED about being a good rapper.



e) Pleasant surprise: Mike G. I actually liked the production
on 'Ali' a lot...I just thought he was in over his head
lyrically. He wasn't really nice enough to ride on most of
those beats, which were outstanding (that was apparent on
that song with Vince Staples....Staples is actually a good
rapper, and G was sorta not).


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

>a) THIS IS THEIR LANE: Its some BREAD AND BUTTER RAP
>SHIT. And despite Tyler's attempts to alienate them
>from older groups, this was some LONS, Native Son,
>Hieroglyp, Wu-Tangy posse cut swag. A bunch of young,
>fun niggas spittin and joking around. It looks like the
>93 till infinity video in some ways. They need to EMBRACE
>their TALENT.
>
>That thrasher/kill everything/burn schools shit is silly
>and it poisoned their music and image. It completely ruined
>'Goblin' as an album.
>
>It certainly gamed them fans and sells out their shows,
>but it taints their long term appeal.
>
>
>b) Tyler almost ruins the song with his whining at
>the end...serious question: can this dude EVER NOT make it
>ABOUT HIM and his vendettas??? What's pathetic about
>it is that he's actually an OUTSTANDING MC. He can RHYME
>HIS ASS OFF.
>
>BUT He has gone WAAAAAAAY overboard with his
>attempts to alientate everyone, though. He's dopest when
>he's just a nigga making beats and spittin

I wholeheartedly agree. I couldn't quite figure out why some of Tyler's verses rub me the wrong way but I understand now. Dude is at his best when he just spits whatever, not trying to comment on some gossipy nonsense or explicitly state how OF is different from everyone. OF is different by just being themselves (and at the same time, as you said, falling in line with the tradition of big groups like the Hieroglyphics, Wu-Tang, etc.

>
>c) Earl Sweatshirt is amazing. As in, the hype is worth it,
>he's a wunderkind, the next shit. He's also waaay ahead
>of everyone else in terms of perspective and persona...he
>...genuinely seems like a different type of nigga...I don't
>see him fucking with this foolishness much longer.

Yup , undeniable. Let him make a solo album on which he can REALLY be introspective and craft rhymes of beats of his choosing; shit, he'll gets all of hip-hop's attention.


>d) I like Hodgy's verse. I think he's awful 75% of the time
>but he might be a Kanye West type rapper who improves with
>time and effort....he seems to CARE about rapping...the same
>way Kanye CARED about being a good rapper.

As much as I've tried, I can't get down with Hodgy. It's like, on some songs he tries to sound angry or tough, as if he's emulating Tyler. Other times he tries to sound smart and witty but he's neither of those, and as a result he comes off as unintentionally funny. How he got so many great beats on his EP is beyond me. But do agree with your point about his caring about rap cause he's is seems like, more and more, he puts plenty of effort into each verse.

>
>e) Pleasant surprise: Mike G. I actually liked the production
>on 'Ali' a lot...I just thought he was in over his head
>lyrically. He wasn't really nice enough to ride on most of
>those beats, which were outstanding (that was apparent on
>that song with Vince Staples....Staples is actually a good
>rapper, and G was sorta not).
>

Never really checked for dude but his verses on OF Vol. 2 were one of the best on the album. I can see him creating a modest career for himself if he stays focused. I can see him, Tyler, Domo, Hodgy, and of course Earl, having lengthy solo careers, esp. Tyler and Earl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V55EelaxK0


ur right, that's their lane

straight up, exactly.

but Earl aint "outgrowing" anything, dude is just a more reserved of the same shit Tyler is about. But less attention whorey.

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fucking bounce.
them niggas aren't going anywhere because the majority of the collective isn't that talented
tyler is going have some success simply because he's the originator but he's too annoying/abrasive to really be a multiple plat type artist(not that that's his goal)
Earl has legitimate talent and needs to drops these niggas like a bad habit after he gives them a charity album
he's basically the justin timberlake of the group. unless he's a complete idiot it's only a matter of time before the whisper cause him to distance himself



>c) Earl Sweatshirt is amazing. As in, the hype is worth it,
>he's a wunderkind, the next shit. He's also waaay ahead
>of everyone else in terms of perspective and persona...he
>...genuinely seems like a different type of nigga...I don't
>see him fucking with this foolishness much longer.
>
>
>

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He's the best rapper in Odd Future, however that's about it so far.

But he's benefitted from the association as they have & what either really end up doing has yet to be determined.

>He's the best rapper in Odd Future, however that's about it
>so far.
>
>But he's benefitted from the association as they have & what
>either really end up doing has yet to be determined.

The Nas comparisons aren't just about being young and
hot.

Nas was (and is) a relatively laid back, reclusive cat.

He's gotten more extroverted but not like a lot of other
niggas he's eons more famous than

What Nas has is talent and mystique

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

gatdamn


BUT this was easily one of my favorite tracks off of Vol. 2.. I love the fact they all look like they're having a blast, that always makes for a great video (ie: "Otis")

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The best videos are made when the artists are actually having fun (same thing with the Otis video). There's nothing faked here, and it definitely has a native tongues vibe.

I'll probably get the mixtape now.

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This was a fun video and I'm mad I hadn't thought of this idea.

Most of the verses were nothing special to me, but
the guy with the Murphy Lee mask on was decent as was the cat drinking juice during his verse
the kid with the cloud shirt can rap his ass off (aint sayin much but I won't complain)
and I liked Tyler's last verse much more than his first.

The beat was nothing special.

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>the kid with the cloud shirt can rap his ass off (aint sayin
>much but I won't complain)

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When I hear rapping without a subject matter I hear jazz guitar.
At this point "this is how dope I am" or "this is how much you hate me" falls into this category as well.
In this situation, he is getting in a ton of rhymes in which the rhyming itself is the point of the rap, not necessarily the message he is trying to convey.

As I said, I'm not complaining cause he did it well, but I feel like at this time in my hip-hop listening life if there is no message on a new song you better be able to rap your ass off.

Tyler's last verse for example had a message, or at least one that is conveyed more clearly than the others.

And to keep going, let me say that the content of said message is not necessarily what will draw me to or keep me away from a song. If you make a whole song about how much weed you smoke cool, but I want all of the verses to be about how much weed you smoke and not two verses about how much weed you smoke and one verse about how dope you are. Unless of course you turn it around and use weed as a metaphor to describe yourself in which case you are sticking with the message of the song.

Finally,
this was a lot of aimless rapping with no central theme carrying through. If you are going to do this I need you to rap extremely well and I think the kid in the cloud shirt did while the others didn't as much.

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>Finally,
>this was a lot of aimless rapping with no central theme
>carrying through.

I said that was fine if its still great rapping.

Again,
I don't follow them so I'm not hating.
I figured since this was 10 minutes of rapping it would be a good way to judge their talents because I am not familiar.
I mentioned whom I liked (though nobody has identified the three I brought up) and the rest I didn't think were anything special.

I didn't say I needed We're All in the Same Gang,
but at this point for ME I need either a) a song with thought put into it or b) a strong rap.
Since this song is NOT a song with a theme except "everybody rap" I wanted to see who I thought could really rap.

Can you tell me who those three are because I might check for them in the (odd) future,
or would you rather be "rad as fuck?"

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In my above post I said "at this point in my hip-hop listening life"
meaning this isn't retroactive.
Music I grew up on and loved was new to me.
If I were to hear it as new music today I don't know how I would react.
At this time in my life I have grown tired of a certain kind of rapping.
Why is this so hard for you?
I even said I liked some of the rappers.

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guy drinking a drink was Frank Ocean

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>guy drinking a drink was Frank Ocean

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he's mainly a singer but rhymed here, he's also coming from an older more mature perspective than most of these dudes even if he is supposedly 24.

in this thread at least,
don't know their reception outside of here.

I will definitely check for Earl again,
I can't believe how young he looks to be rapping like that.

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and his free new singles, produced by Tough Junkie!
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these dudes could be wu tang like if they weren't so young and dumb

~~~~~~

or has the attention span to deserve a wu-tang, but while people love to debate the comparison, and to contradict myself, this is this generations wu-tang.

aside from all the comparisons you can make on the music the other aspect is there, the boy band type craze for a rap group that hasn't been seen in a long time. Seriously, excluding any rap group some nerd might toss up in response there seriously hasn't been a group like this in a long time, and especially one that actually focused on the music and not some silly ass dance.

I couldn't care less about authenticity these days, i listen to music for entertainment and if that job is done then it doesn't matter if an artist is truly a 100% representation of the character they create, so i hope these lil niggas act like clowns on camera and got they heads in the figures behind scenes, and if they don't then i hope they just get better at what they and change the subject matter a little when they start going through some thangs.

moscato and bad grammar! woooo!

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Wu-tang, damn son how old are you like 50

half way through but i like the track a lot.

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"Hodgy Daddies" and "Syd the Dude" probably shouldn't be as funny as it is to me.

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Yes! She's on the drugs. (c) BoHagon

stimulation

*
*
*

.

are out their fucking minds.

And great video, as expected. That's all.

I'm listening.

so what did he say that chaffed your ass so badly?

>so what did he say that chaffed your ass so badly?

I mean, Jesus christ...what the fuck am I supposed
to say?

You're clearly better at ignoring him then I am. I know this among the best things they've done. I've been a fan from the start and never joined in the ridiculous OKP Backlash against OF. I always recognized them for what they were, a bunch of young bucks making well-produced, well written, interesting hip hop.

My problem with OE is his constant flip-flopping/trolling/strange psychoanalysis of OF.

I just don't think he believes half his own bullshit and don't see why people entertain it (or more embarrassingly, actually agree) he says shit about Tyler The Creator being a joke and how OF is going to leave him and such.

Here in objective reality, everybody knows who got the ball rolling and who isn't going anywhere.

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They're bureaucrats! I don't respect them.(c)Rick Sanchez

Put out Nostalgia Ultra on their website when it first came out. He's on the most recent OF collective album and been down with them for a long time. Appeared in multiple OF members solo albums and he mentions them in interviews.

To set it straight before haters come on pretending he's not a member like they have done before, and how they did with Earl when he was back.

Giving you objective reality before OKP alternate reality comes in.