believe it or not White on White crime musically counts and this is the latest example. I mean Jon B. rings circles around Thicke.

Better Songwriter

Better producer

Better vocalist

more versatile

so i wonder how come Jon B. ain't got the juice that corny Thicke still gets?

obvious answer is the last name and good Payola, however Thicke is striving to be the First Modern White Cat who dabbles in R&B and Hip-Hop Hooks going to direct to video Unsung.

Jon B can play,but seems to be getting the Bob Ucker treatment into the bleachers.

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and Jon B sounded too Black

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thicke had the neptunes behind him when he first started

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and also Thicke didn't do much until his 2nd album and originally thicke was in Brian mcknight's camp

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Simple answer:Timing

Nothing more...Nothing less


You know how many great artist were a victim of time in American music? Too many to name.

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^ This has gotta be the correct answer..

Either this or..

Alan Thicke is in the Illuminati and shit.

first album was on Nu American/interscope, Babyface short-lived label with Andre Harrell.

And Jon B had hits, and plenty of shine. It wasn't until the 2pac song, and he started going rapper-crazy on his records with features that he started to swing down. His downturn also came at the same time that Face 'semi-retired'...

Jon was hardly unheralded, he just had his time... And if he wants to keep making the synthy, club trash of his last record, then his time is over.

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add on that
i think the lil wayne affiliation made him 'hip'
& his actress wife being a video model for free helped.
jon's biggest claim to fame is the song he did with 2pac.
jon had some really big songs but it pretty much stayed on the r&b/black radio level (where you find cats like joe, tank, kem, etc)

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The albums Evolution and Something Else smashes Jon B's entire catalog.

Job B is a cool dude. But he can't sing

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>The albums Evolution and Something Else smashes Jon B's entire
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>Job B is a cool dude. But he can't sing

Evolution and ABW are Thicke's best albums, but them mofo's ain't seeing Pleasures U Like or Stronger Everyday, closet thicke gets to being as good as Jon is Evolution, and he needed help just to get THAT close...and this ninja said Jon B can't sing?? only on Okp.....

i think they are bpth very talented, but Jon is THAT dude....

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I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories...but I think Jon B. greatly reduced profile has alot to do with the Jack Herrera album...the record itself had overall themes of unity, thinking for yourself, spiritual awareness, upliftment, and revolution using live music and musicianship to carry the message...around that time (99-2000) is when we saw the majors making an agressive push to highlight dumb shit in Black music...

Jon and his record company fought over this record then out of nowhere alot of bad shit happened to ol boy. His marriage crumbled, his house and studio burned to the ground, the label (Yab Yum) folded and he didnt land on any other major label...

Jon pissed somebody off and got blacklisted...just a theory

Matthew Knowles and unlike 2002 i don't expect much return.

also Jon B co signed MJ and his stance against Sony which didn't win him any support.

though i grooved to JON B working with Kay Gee i knew he was getting shafted.

and its always the rule one White cat doing R&B at a time rule.

meaning the one that real bread is on. Thicke got bread on him, however folks ain't felt him in years.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_B.#Comfortable_Swagg

it's pretty good too, altho i miss the "pleasures u like/jack herrera/Stronger Everyday Jon B...

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Shit, Jon was cool but never made anything as dope as Thicke's 1st record, let alone Evolution...



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i be like you got a broke El Debarge/MJ thing going on and what else? all the money spent on him to make down,cool and soulful and he just feels constipated like a cool lounge "Love Boat" act out at sea.

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Also, because Thicke got a second chance. Let's not forget that Fifth of Beethoven song of his that bricked in the 90s.

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Sounds like you guys haven't been following Thicke. First, some of you were right, he was signed by Andre Harrell back in the day. But he's been in the music industry for a while writing for other people. So he paid his dues.

Second, his first album was the ish! Cherry Blue Skies/Beautiful World was amazing. But they marketed it to the 106 and park crowd at the time. It was the wrong market.

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