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vee-lover
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"Poll question: Commom or Snoop: Who's The Better MC?"


  

          

I have a hard to deciding which of the two is the better MC. I think an argument could be made both ways but there's no debating that Snoop is and has always been the bigger star and is more iconic figure but strictly debating the merits of their lyrical skills, music, and overall cds, who do you think has been the better rapper?

Poll result (32 votes)
Snoop (6 votes)Vote
Common (26 votes)Vote
too close to call (0 votes)Vote

  

  

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At his peak, very few MCs were touching Common
Mar 07th 2012
1
But the same can said abt Snoop's early work - there was a reason
Mar 07th 2012
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yeah, i agree.
Mar 07th 2012
4
snoop's charisma overshadows his technical ability.
Mar 07th 2012
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      Yea, true...
Mar 07th 2012
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      ^^great points and I'm in agreement - I recently watched a dvd of
Mar 07th 2012
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      See, this is where I'm not so sure
Mar 07th 2012
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           that's fair.
Mar 07th 2012
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           RE: See, this is where I'm not so sure
Mar 07th 2012
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                Wrong
Mar 08th 2012
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One Day It'll All Make Sense Common > Doggystyle Snoop
Mar 07th 2012
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Oooh that's a tough one but I personally like the songs on One
Mar 07th 2012
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Yea...Common from like 97-00 was in a zone
Mar 07th 2012
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      RE: Yea...Common from like 97-00 was in a zone
Mar 07th 2012
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      Yep yep yep.
Mar 07th 2012
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no offense to snoop but how is this even a poll?
Mar 07th 2012
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because history will most certainly regard Snoop as the greater mc
Mar 07th 2012
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      "most certainly"?
Mar 07th 2012
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      what? so you don't think Snoop will go down as a greater MC than
Mar 07th 2012
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           depends on who's making the list.
Mar 07th 2012
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           pul leeeze...if there was a composite vote based off several polls
Mar 07th 2012
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                like i said... depends on who's making the list.
Mar 07th 2012
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                     Ok I see your point but then that could really apply to any and every
Mar 07th 2012
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           The irony
Mar 07th 2012
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                what exactly does bringing up that lyric prove? lol
Mar 07th 2012
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                     ...
Mar 07th 2012
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                          tell me what did I change? you just don't have a good argument to
Mar 07th 2012
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                               As in- I literally don't know what you're talking about any more
Mar 07th 2012
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                                    lyrical skills, music, overall cds are all part of a rapper's career
Mar 07th 2012
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                                         How's that poll working out for you?
Mar 08th 2012
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                                              you act like I thought Snoop was sure to garner the most votes lol
Mar 08th 2012
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      RE: because history will most certainly regard Snoop as the greater mc
Mar 08th 2012
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in no way shape form or fashion can snoop dog fuck w/ common
Mar 07th 2012
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except for making bigger hit records n/m
Mar 07th 2012
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      so that makes you better?
Mar 07th 2012
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           no but he has had more hit records than Common and having hit
Mar 07th 2012
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           if mc means move the crowd.......
Mar 08th 2012
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                I'm partial to "mic controller"
Mar 08th 2012
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If you have to ask....
Mar 07th 2012
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I love Common and all but Snoop's Doggystyle (No Homo)
Mar 07th 2012
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Common has been a consistently good mc over the yrs...but he
Mar 07th 2012
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Which is the better movie: The Wash or Just Wright?
Mar 07th 2012
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Snoop in a blow out and it ain't even close
Mar 07th 2012
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Common by far
Mar 07th 2012
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all this is about as worthless as your posts
Mar 07th 2012
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      let me break it down for you about Snoop
Mar 08th 2012
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           RE: let me break it down for you about Snoop
Mar 08th 2012
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           RE: let me break it down for you about Snoop
Mar 08th 2012
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           lol @ you accusing anyone of being on a street team
Mar 08th 2012
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           Uh - dogg...
Mar 08th 2012
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           lol both of them clowned him...wonder if this turkey regrets not
Mar 08th 2012
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                For real yo, fuck this turkey gobler
Mar 08th 2012
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                no regrets because more people over time listen to Snoop
Mar 08th 2012
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                     ^^^took the short bus to school
Mar 08th 2012
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           http://i51.tinypic.com/2qltwmh.jpg
Mar 08th 2012
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           RE: let me break it down for you about Snoop
Mar 08th 2012
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I love Com, but Snoop all day
Mar 08th 2012
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The better MC? Common is definitely the better MC
Mar 08th 2012
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Technically, probably Common... but I'd rather listen to Snoop any day.
Mar 08th 2012
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my feelings exactly
Mar 08th 2012
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Snoop started out hot but then he mellowed out.
Mar 08th 2012
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this is an abysmal train wreck of a thread
Mar 08th 2012
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yet you keep coming in here posting, something I never understand
Mar 08th 2012
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You and me both
Mar 08th 2012
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      Haha - well said.
Mar 08th 2012
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      and yet you're here again lol...just admit I'm right KIM
Mar 08th 2012
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RE: Commom or Snoop: Who's The Better MC?
Mar 08th 2012
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RE: Commom or Snoop: Who's The Better MC?
Mar 08th 2012
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Eric B Is Prez
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1. "At his peak, very few MCs were touching Common"
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i.e. Resurrection

That being said, Snoop had (has) more charisma than almost any MC. But in terms of technical ability, it's Com.

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2. "But the same can said abt Snoop's early work - there was a reason"
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Wed Mar-07-12 02:05 PM by vee-lover

  

          

why he was one of the most universally liked MCs when he 1st came on the scene. I can't think of any rapper who was liked by everyone the minute they came out the way Snoop was. I think because he's become this caricature over the years ppl forget that he is a true MC at heart.


>i.e. Resurrection
>
>That being said, Snoop had (has) more charisma than almost any
>MC. But in terms of technical ability, it's Com.

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4. "yeah, i agree. "
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(see #3)

  

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3. "snoop's charisma overshadows his technical ability."
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Wed Mar-07-12 01:58 PM by Joe Corn Mo

  

          

hell... a lot of times,
snoop's charisma makes snoop FORGET that he has technical ability.

you know those tracks
when snoop comes on and just starts talking in that cool ass voice? lol


"yeah. *pause* it's snoop dog in the house in the house and i'm high/ *pause again* all the time."




he's great at it.
and it works.
and i love those tracks.

but it's easy to forget he can rap his ass off. lol



>i.e. Resurrection
>
>That being said, Snoop had (has) more charisma than almost any
>MC. But in terms of technical ability, it's Com.

  

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5. "Yea, true..."
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Wed Mar-07-12 02:03 PM by Brew

          

>hell... a lot of times,
>snoop's charisma makes snoop FORGET that he has technical
>ability.
>
>you know those tracks
>when snoop comes on and just starts talking in that cool ass
>voice? lol
>
>
>"yeah. *pause* it's snoop dog in the house in the house and
>i'm high/ *pause again* all the time."
>
>
>
>
>he's great at it.
>and it works.
>and i love those tracks.
>
>but it's easy to forget he can rap his ass off. lol

Definitely true especially about the last part. When he puts the time in and (like you said) focuses on writing rather than just being cool (and he's excellent at both), he can outshine a lot of people.

But still...I think this is an easy choice. Like someone above already said, IMO when Common was at his peak (to me, like, 94-99 or so), no one was touching him. Not one. He still shows signs of this ability and I think his peak is higher than Snoop's is/was. Snoop as far as technical ability is somewhere in the middle of the pack, Common to me is near the top.

This post is funny for me cause Snoop was my favorite rapper as a kid until like, the end of middle school...Common was pretty much my favorite from that point forward. A better way to put it is that all my friends associate these two rappers with me specifically, because I was (and am) such a big fan of both for some extended period of my life.

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6. "^^great points and I'm in agreement - I recently watched a dvd of"
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him in concert and completely forgot how many classic and great songs he has in discography. He all the ingredients that an MC needs...the lyrical skills, the voice, the charisma, and being a solid live performer.


>hell... a lot of times,
>snoop's charisma makes snoop FORGET that he has technical
>ability.
>
>you know those tracks
>when snoop comes on and just starts talking in that cool ass
>voice? lol
>
>
>"yeah. *pause* it's snoop dog in the house in the house and
>i'm high/ *pause again* all the time."
>
>
>
>
>he's great at it.
>and it works.
>and i love those tracks.
>
>but it's easy to forget he can rap his ass off. lol
>
>
>
>>i.e. Resurrection
>>
>>That being said, Snoop had (has) more charisma than almost
>any
>>MC. But in terms of technical ability, it's Com.
>

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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9. "See, this is where I'm not so sure"
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>but it's easy to forget he can rap his ass off

If you take his lyrics from Doggystle, write them down, and then have a more boring MC record them...would it have been all that great?

To me, lyrics only stand on their own if they're impressive regardless of who delivers them.

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11. "that's fair."
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but my impression is that "techincal ability"
includes things like flow, delievery,
and the ability to make all of the sylablles fall in the right place.


admitedly, there is some overlap with charisma,
but it's not as simple as "write it down on a piece of paper
and see if it works as literature."


sure, that's a part of technical ability,
but i don't think that's all there is.

how much you value that is, of course, a matter
of personal preference.





>>but it's easy to forget he can rap his ass off
>
>If you take his lyrics from Doggystle, write them down, and
>then have a more boring MC record them...would it have been
>all that great?
>
>To me, lyrics only stand on their own if they're impressive
>regardless of who delivers them.
>

  

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36. "RE: See, this is where I'm not so sure"
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The op is about who's the better emcee (i'm assuming overall).. not who's the best lyricist.

  

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53. "Wrong"
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The OP says "strictly debating the merits of their lyrical skills, music, and overall cds"

Lyrical skills.

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7. "One Day It'll All Make Sense Common > Doggystyle Snoop"
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8. "Oooh that's a tough one but I personally like the songs on One"
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Day...better so I have to agree

but

Doggystyle was more cohesive since Dre handled all the production whereas "One Day It Will All Make Sense" was really like a collection of (dope) songs.

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10. "Yea...Common from like 97-00 was in a zone"
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Obviously Resurrection is a classic but from One Day to songs like High Expectations to 1-9-9-9 to Respiration to Like Water he was one of the best ever.

  

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12. "RE: Yea...Common from like 97-00 was in a zone"
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Agreed

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16. "Yep yep yep."
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We've talked about this haha.

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13. "no offense to snoop but how is this even a poll?"
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14. "because history will most certainly regard Snoop as the greater mc"
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so its fair to ask the question

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17. ""most certainly"?"
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If it were 'certain', there wouldn't be so much disagreement. That's sort of what 'certain' means.

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18. "what? so you don't think Snoop will go down as a greater MC than"
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Common? yall are tripping for real LOL...but this is the lesson which is a world unto itself as I'm so often reminded

Snoop is more accomplished and has had bigger hit records than Common and was a LEGEND/ICON in the game while Common was still regarded as a "backpacker MC."

*Most* ppl on this board believe Nas is a better MC than Jayz...but who do you think will go down as the greater of the two?

>If it were 'certain', there wouldn't be so much disagreement.
> That's sort of what 'certain' means.

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20. "depends on who's making the list."
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23. "pul leeeze...if there was a composite vote based off several polls"
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I have not the slightest doubt Snoop would be the winner, fairly or unfairly...

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28. "like i said... depends on who's making the list."
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if your composite was skewed towards magazines like
rolling stone, spin, and other folks that don't deal with
hip hop exlusively, then sure.


b/c snoop broke pop in a way that few artists have.




but if the composite was skewed towards backpackers,
or folks that dig lyrics more than beats,
it might look different.

you asked a shit load of rappers who the best rapper was,
they might not go w/ snoop.
it might lean towards rakim or something.





now i will admit that for the the type of composite poll you're talking about, snoop would do really well.
because there are more publications from folks like rolling stone
and spin than there are "in-depth" hip hop magazine.

so if rap doesn't break pop... it kind of doesn't
exist for them.



but still, it depends on who's making the list.






>I have not the slightest doubt Snoop would be the winner,
>fairly or unfairly...

  

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30. "Ok I see your point but then that could really apply to any and every"
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MC...


>if your composite was skewed towards magazines like
>rolling stone, spin, and other folks that don't deal with
>hip hop exlusively, then sure.
>
>
>b/c snoop broke pop in a way that few artists have.
>
>
>
>
>but if the composite was skewed towards backpackers,
>or folks that dig lyrics more than beats,
>it might look different.
>
>you asked a shit load of rappers who the best rapper was,
>they might not go w/ snoop.
>it might lean towards rakim or something.
>
>
>
>
>
>now i will admit that for the the type of composite poll
>you're talking about, snoop would do really well.
>because there are more publications from folks like rolling
>stone
>and spin than there are "in-depth" hip hop magazine.
>
>so if rap doesn't break pop... it kind of doesn't
>exist for them.
>
>
>
>but still, it depends on who's making the list.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>I have not the slightest doubt Snoop would be the winner,
>>fairly or unfairly...
>

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21. "The irony"
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Wed Mar-07-12 04:30 PM by Eric B Is Prez

  

          

Is that the people you're invoking here in an attempt to make your point (Snoop and Jay included) would actually disagree with you.

"Truthfully, I want to rhyme like Common Sense" (c) Jay

And if you're so certain, why bother making this a poll? Do you just enjoy the abuse? How will you feel when your poll completely backfires?

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25. "what exactly does bringing up that lyric prove? lol"
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Wed Mar-07-12 04:57 PM by vee-lover

  

          

>Is that the people you're invoking here in an attempt to make
>your point (Snoop and Jay included) would actually disagree
>with you.
>
>"Truthfully, I want to rhyme like Common Sense" (c) Jay
>
>And if you're so certain, why bother making this a poll? Do
>you just enjoy the abuse? How will you feel when your poll
>completely backfires?

what???? backfire??? lmao I don't care who ppl choose. I'm just pointing out that there's an argument to be made for both ways, I personally like Common's music more. Moreover, Cube occupies a space on the all time list higher than Common and I think that's fairly indisputable...but Snoop is by and large considered the greatest west coast MC...so that is why I say Snoop will be regarded as the best of the two MCs

In addition, I'm certain because of the criteria that most ppl have in selecting the greatest MCs and it mostly comes down to overall career which is why I brought up Jayz in comparison to Nas whose music I like more than Jay's but we all know which has had the better overall career...and Snoop has had the better career btw he and Common, That's just a fact.


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26. "..."
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At this point, you've changed the subject and moved the goalposts so many times that I don't even know how to respond.

Enjoy the rest of your post.

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29. "tell me what did I change? you just don't have a good argument to"
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counter what I said, that's all lol...

let me repeat it: Snoop has had the better overall career btw the two artists which is why he's considered a HipHop legend and have been for some time now. Common on the other hand is great in his own right, too, but you nor anyone else can tell me that he's head and shoulders above Snoop. It's just a matter of your personal preference.

Snoop has had more memorable and legendary records that have withstood the test of time. Common for the longest was mostly known as a "backpacker mc" and by ppl who really followed the less commercial HipHop. I think when its all said and done even Kanye will be considered the better MC of the two out of the Chi (he pretty much is now)


>Enjoy the rest of your post.

I am

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31. "As in- I literally don't know what you're talking about any more"
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1) Your original post establishes this as the criteria: "lyrical skills, music, and overall cds". Now you're talking about- "the criteria that most ppl have in selecting the greatest MCs and it mostly comes down to overall career". These are all different things.

2) Ice Cube?

3) East Coast vs. West Coast?

You're all over the place.

I applaud your enthusiasm, though.

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33. "lyrical skills, music, overall cds are all part of a rapper's career"
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they're not separate...it's not I asked who is the better lyricist...or whose music has been the best....or who has had the most commercial cds? it's who's the better MC?

and all the above criteria is a part of determining if rapper x is better than rapper A...because in the end a rapper's place in the pantheon is based on his (or her) overall career which is why someone like Kool G Rap, for instance, who is a pioneering MC, isn't regarded as a unanimous top 10 MC even though most rappers respect his lyricism and many east coast MCs have admitted he's had a big influence on them...


>2) Ice Cube?

>
>3) East Coast vs. West Coast?
>
>You're all over the place.

nah your reading comprehension skills are off today, that's all...
>
>I applaud your enthusiasm, though.

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49. "How's that poll working out for you?"
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BTW- you can't disown the poll or say "Only on OKP". THIS IS YOUR POLL.

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56. "you act like I thought Snoop was sure to garner the most votes lol"
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I don't care nor control how ppl vote on a message board lmao...if the majority of ppl on here think Common is the better MC then so be it

but

as I said, most polls ranking MCs (outside of OKP lol) would rank Snoop over Common for reasons other than just lyricism which is, as I included, part of the criteria for judging an MC but NOT THE ONLY THING thus the reason why Cube, too, ranks higher in the pantheon of great MCs than Common does - even though Common is *arguably* lyrically better than him also and did, according to the consensus, win the battle vs Cube.

To add further to the point: A strong case can be made that either LL or Pac is the GOAT but do you really think there aren't a bunch of MCs who are lyrically better than them? (rhetorical question)

being a great/legendary MC involves more than just being lyrically tight - such as album sales, cultural impact, hit songs, as well as lyricism and when you take all these things into account it is very reasonable to say Snoop is the better MC btw he and Common


>BTW- you can't disown the poll or say "Only on OKP". THIS IS
>YOUR POLL.

what a nerd smh

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51. "RE: because history will most certainly regard Snoop as the greater mc"
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>so its fair to ask the question

i guess vee-lover = history

even though you have demonstrated you have no idea what in blue fuck "MC" means


better career, more successful, snoop no question.

controlling that motherfucking mic? LOLOLOL. again, I LIKE snoop, but this shit isn't even pollworthy

  

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15. "in no way shape form or fashion can snoop dog fuck w/ common"
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period. not now, not then, not ever

log off for even making this post


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19. "except for making bigger hit records n/m"
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24. "so that makes you better?"
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got it!

  

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27. "no but he has had more hit records than Common and having hit"
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records does play a role when judging an MC...

this is precisely why many make the argument that Jayz (and LL) is the GOAT...and why Krs One to some isn't the GOAT

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59. "if mc means move the crowd......."
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66. "I'm partial to "mic controller""
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that "move the crowd" shit was for the 80s. lol

  

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22. "If you have to ask...."
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32. "I love Common and all but Snoop's Doggystyle (No Homo)"
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trumps anything in Common's catalog.

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35. "Common has been a consistently good mc over the yrs...but he"
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has NEVER put out a song or a cd that had the impact that Snoop had on "The Chronic" cd.

and

Doggystyle is to me still the greatest debut HipHop cd by any artist...and that is just another reason why I say he'll be regarded as being the better MC btw he and Common

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34. "Which is the better movie: The Wash or Just Wright?"
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Doggystyle over any Common album though.

  

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37. "Snoop in a blow out and it ain't even close"
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Snoop more personality,swag and reaping his town, block,city and state and did it in a real way.

Snoop dropped with Dr.Dre and took Dre to a whole different level.

Common got skills and yet he is a reactionary cat never really ripped nothing unless he was Provoked. his best stuff is after he had somebody set fuel to him, not on his own.

Snoop got Stats and Jewlery as well and it just ain't close. more classic songs, albums,tours, etc.,. etc...

however Common is a down to earth cat and cool folks. Snoop is tied to the industry

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38. "Common by far"
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It's not even close. In every facet in rap, Common destroys Snoop in a landslide godstomp.

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39. "all this is about as worthless as your posts"
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>Snoop more personality,swag and reaping his town, block,city
>and state and did it in a real way.
>

and how the fuck does one "reap his/her town"?

  

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40. "let me break it down for you about Snoop"
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better songs

better album

better live performer

household name

and lets remember being a West Coast MC back in the day was not a happening thing for a minute.

Hammer open the gates and Snoop walked through despite West coast bias on the east coast.

Common ain't never made a record with as much impact as Snoop during both there Prime and Peak period.

gin and Juice alone runs all over Common at his best.

forget all this talk well Snoop is more known, blah,blah,blah he earned it period.

last time I checked Common does

Movies 1)

tv commericals 2)

music videos beside his own 3)

has a Book out 4)

tv shows 5)

so don't act like Common stayed in a Lupe Fiasco mode all of his career or stayed in the Professor Griff lane.

Common wanted that Snoop level and he got with Kayne West act like you Know.

COmmon just never had that kinda next level it.

truth be told this poll outta be Snoop VS Nas. they got more in common.

Common is like a more successful version of paris if you ask me.

however Paris had skills.

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42. "RE: let me break it down for you about Snoop"
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Thu Mar-08-12 02:43 AM by Anonymous

  

          

>better songs
>

Not at all. Snoop has one classic album with great singlesafter that he is 85% filler.

>better album
>

Doggystyle is definitely the biggest albumbut I ain't mad at anyone that likes Resurrection, One Day or Like Water better than Doggystyle.

>better live performer
>

OkI guess. I've seen them both and let's just say Com was part of the best concert I've ever seen and Snoop was not.

>household name
>

Technically they both are at this point. If by household name you mean, more white people like Snoop then I guess, but who cares when we're talking about MCing? That shit means nothing.

>and lets remember being a West Coast MC back in the day was
>not a happening thing for a minute.
>

Yea, and there were a fucking boat load of MCs coming out of the Chi. not to mention Common destroyed the West Coast's hardest rapper.

>Hammer open the gates and Snoop walked through despite West
>coast bias on the east coast.
>

So again, what is your fucking point? Half the shit you try to claim doesn't have shit to do with being an actual MC.

>Common ain't never made a record with as much impact as Snoop
>during both there Prime and Peak period.
>

Impact is the biggest bullshit ever when it comes to discussing talented MCs. Having an impact doesn't mean shit. If it did, then Vanilla Ice would be a better MC than Monch and if you believe that then you deserved to be pissed on by your idol.

>gin and Juice alone runs all over Common at his best.
>

1 song "runs all over" someone's whole career now? Gin and Juice is nothing but a hit single. I Used To Love H.E.R. is a better joint. Retrospect For Life is a better joint. G.O.D. is a better joint. The 6th Sense is a better joint. It's funny how Mr Pro-Black Artist is on here vouching for a technically ignorant track over an artist who has used his voice for positivity amongst his people and community just because you can attempt to use "impact" as a crutch as if I gives a fuck if 13 year old Jane and 55 year old Debbie like Snoop more than Common.

>forget all this talk well Snoop is more known, blah,blah,blah
>he earned it period.
>

Earned what? He had one classic and then PURE bullshit after that.


>last time I checked Common does
>
>Movies 1)
>

Snoop hasn't tried.?

>tv commericals 2)
>

Snoop hasn't tried?

>music videos beside his own 3)
>

Huh?

>has a Book out 4)
>

And?

>tv shows 5)
>

Snoop hasn't done that?

>so don't act like Common stayed in a Lupe Fiasco mode all of
>his career or stayed in the Professor Griff lane.
>

Who said he did? What the fucking is your fucking point? We are talking about MCing. You are the biggest fucking idiot on this site and have no concept of what a coherent thought is. It's funny how you first say Snoop is better because he is a household name and has had a bigger impact and then go on to fault Common for doing the very same things that helped Snoop become a household name more so than his actual music career.

>Common wanted that Snoop level and he got with Kayne West act
>like you Know.
>

You really believe this?

>Common just never had that kinda next level it.
>

And that's ALL you care about. You pick artists to go to bat for by how popular they are first where as I base my views off of their actual music.

>truth be told this poll outta be Snoop VS Nas. they got more
>in common.
>

Actually, it should be Common vs Nas. They have more in common. They're both dope lyricists.

>Common is like a more successful version of paris if you ask
>me.
>

What?

>however Paris had skills.


  

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43. "RE: let me break it down for you about Snoop"
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>>better songs
>>
>
>Not at all. Snoop has one classic album with great
>singlesafter that he is 85% filler.
>
>>better album
>>
>
>Doggystyle is definitely the biggest albumbut I ain't mad at
>anyone that likes Resurrection, One Day or Like Water better
>than Doggystyle.
>
>>better live performer
>>
>
>OkI guess. I've seen them both and let's just say Com was
>part of the best concert I've ever seen and Snoop was not.
>
>>household name
>>
>
>Technically they both are at this point. If by household name
>you mean, more white people like Snoop then I guess, but who
>cares when we're talking about MCing? That shit means
>nothing.
>
>>and lets remember being a West Coast MC back in the day was
>>not a happening thing for a minute.
>>
>
>Yea, and there were a fucking boat load of MCs coming out of
>the Chi. not to mention Common destroyed the West Coast's
>hardest rapper.
>
>>Hammer open the gates and Snoop walked through despite West
>>coast bias on the east coast.
>>
>
>So again, what is your fucking point? Half the shit you try
>to claim doesn't have shit to do with being an actual MC.
>
>>Common ain't never made a record with as much impact as
>Snoop
>>during both there Prime and Peak period.
>>
>
>Impact is the biggest bullshit ever when it comes to
>discussing talented MCs. Having an impact doesn't mean shit.
>If it did, then Vanilla Ice would be a better MC than Monch
>and if you believe that then you deserved to be pissed on by
>your idol.
>
>>gin and Juice alone runs all over Common at his best.
>>
>
>1 song "runs all over" someone's whole career now? Gin and
>Juice is nothing but a hit single. I Used To Love H.E.R. is a
>better joint. Retrospect For Life is a better joint. G.O.D.
>is a better joint. The 6th Sense is a better joint. It's
>funny how Mr Pro-Black Artist is on here vouching for a
>technically ignorant track over an artist who has used his
>voice for positivity amongst his people and community just
>because you can attempt to use "impact" as a crutch as if I
>gives a fuck if 13 year old Jane and 55 year old Debbie like
>Snoop more than Common.
>
>>forget all this talk well Snoop is more known, blah,blah,blah
>
>>he earned it period.
>>
>
>Earned what? He had one classic and then PURE bullshit after
>that.
>
>
>>last time I checked Common does
>>
>>Movies 1)
>>
>
>Snoop hasn't tried.?
>
>>tv commericals 2)
>>
>
>Snoop hasn't tried?
>
>>music videos beside his own 3)
>>
>
>Huh?
>
>>has a Book out 4)
>>
>
>And?
>
>>tv shows 5)
>>
>
>Snoop hasn't done that?
>
>>so don't act like Common stayed in a Lupe Fiasco mode all of
>>his career or stayed in the Professor Griff lane.
>>
>
>Who said he did? What the fucking is your fucking point? We
>are talking about MCing. You are the biggest fucking idiot on
>this site and have no concept of what a coherent thought is.
>It's funny how you first say Snoop is better because he is a
>household name and has had a bigger impact and then go on to
>fault Common for doing the very same things that helped Snoop
>become a household name more so than his actual music career.
>
>>Common wanted that Snoop level and he got with Kayne West
>act
>>like you Know.
>>
>
>You really believe this?
>
>>Common just never had that kinda next level it.
>>
>
>And that's ALL you care about. You pick artists to go to bat
>for by how popular they are first where as I base my views off
>of their actual music.
>
>>truth be told this poll outta be Snoop VS Nas. they got more
>>in common.
>>
>
>Actually, it should be Common vs Nas. They have more in
>common. They're both dope lyricists.
>
>>Common is like a more successful version of paris if you
>ask
>>me.
>>
>
>What?
>
>>however Paris had skills.
>
>
>



unless you are on common's payroll you don't believe half the crap you typed. 1)

he can't ever hold his hit and miss albums up against Snoop let alone Ice Cube. 2)

Snoop can free style and can rock a flow with ease. matter of fact folks fell in love with Snoop's voice. acting like Snoop didn't make you react is just goaltending basically. 2)

Common ain't never made a more important or better album than Doggystyle and where he did he assit somebody else on a album bigger and better than the chorinic again? 2)

yeah Common's hook work is real memorable huh? next 3)

only in here is this poll so one sided and even allowed up, in the real world Snoop Dogg came out as a Legend, Common been a work in progress every sense he dropped the name Sense from his last name meaning he still trying too hard. 4)

yeah Common wanted to be where Snoop was and he linned up with Kayne in a last ditch effort because making hit and miss music and not hitting said audience gets old real fast. 5)

Common ain't seeing no top tier Fellow Hip Hop Artist in catelog. He couldn't Carry Nas's Chain let alone Snoop's Doo Rag. or Ice Cube's Afro Pick. good but never great or elite only in here. 6)

Snoop is like Walter Payton to Common's Eddie Payton a few touchdowns and moments are nice, however Common ain't No HOF or close to no Snoop.

if Snoop has 85% filler than Common got 95% filler because aside from a few joints ain't nobody felt his stuff like that in years.

Common can spit and got skills, however he didn't always put it together proper. 7)

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44. "lol @ you accusing anyone of being on a street team"
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>unless you are on common's payroll you don't believe half the
>crap you typed. 1)
>

LOL. and either you're on Kells or you're just flat out actually sucking his dick.


>he can't ever hold his hit and miss albums up against Snoop
>let alone Ice Cube. 2)
>

Where did I say Common's albums are better than Cube's? And I would love for you to go into which of Snoop's albums after Doggystyle you're speaking of because they are all borderline trash.

>Snoop can free style and can rock a flow with ease. matter of
>fact folks fell in love with Snoop's voice. acting like Snoop
>didn't make you react is just goaltending basically. 2)
>

What? They both can "rock a flow". You are saying NOTHING with ANY substance. That doesn't mean anything.

>Common ain't never made a more important or better album than
>Doggystyle and where he did he assit somebody else on a album
>bigger and better than the chorinic again? 2)
>

What is so important about Doggystyle? Poeople kill me with this shit. Like an album fucking cured cancer. Doggystyle is more popular than Common's and if people list it higher than Com's I have no problem with that. But that's the ONLY album. If you rank the best albums from these two, Snoop would have #1 and Common would have slots 2-5. So who has the better catalogue?

>yeah Common's hook work is real memorable huh? next 3)
>

yeahuh? Again, your only way of determining how "memorable" an album is, is by how "popular" or "important" it was.

>only in here is this poll so one sided and even allowed up, in
>the real world Snoop Dogg came out as a Legend, Common been a
>work in progress every sense he dropped the name Sense from
>his last name meaning he still trying too hard. 4)
>

What? I thought we were talking about MCing. That's what the poll question was. Snoop has NO verse that is on the same level of Common at his best. Snoop is NOT that type of MC. He gets over on his slick shit and his delivery which people who get excited about appearance tend to put more weight on.

>yeah Common wanted to be where Snoop was and he linned up with
>Kayne in a last ditch effort because making hit and miss music
>and not hitting said audience gets old real fast. 5)
>

How the FUCK does lining up with Kanye make him want to be like Snoop? and by the way, I know you're not going to answer any of these questions. And it's not because you can't, it's just because you're a complete idiot and don't understand the fundamentals of a music discussion.

>Common ain't seeing no top tier Fellow Hip Hop Artist in
>catelog. He couldn't Carry Nas's Chain let alone Snoop's Doo
>Rag. or Ice Cube's Afro Pick. good but never great or elite
>only in here. 6)
>

Remember we're discussing MCing here right. Just thought I would remind you because you seem to be stuck on a popularity contest.

>Snoop is like Walter Payton to Common's Eddie Payton a few
>touchdowns and moments are nice, however Common ain't No HOF
>or close to no Snoop.
>

LOL @ Com not in the Hall of Fame.

>if Snoop has 85% filler than Common got 95% filler because
>aside from a few joints ain't nobody felt his stuff like that
>in years.
>

Resurrection, One Day, Like Water, Be are ALL better than any Snoop album not named Doggystye.


>Common can spit and got skills, however he didn't always put
>it together proper. 7)
>

AND NEITHER DID SNOOP. Snoop is one of the most overrated piece of shit MCs in the history of the game. Shit, talk about put it together. Dude has had a MUCH worse track record than Nas and he is STILL getting a pass from Doggystyle.


  

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48. "Uh - dogg..."
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>Snoop can free style and can rock a flow with ease. matter of
>fact folks fell in love with Snoop's voice. acting like Snoop
>didn't make you react is just goaltending basically. 2)

Common can freestyle, too. Far better. He doesn't just spell his name 50x

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm0t24pVdNY


>Common ain't never made a more important or better album than
>Doggystyle and where he did he assit somebody else on a album
>bigger and better than the chorinic again? 2)
>
>yeah Common's hook work is real memorable huh? next 3)
>
>only in here is this poll so one sided and even allowed up, in
>the real world Snoop Dogg came out as a Legend, Common been a
>work in progress every sense he dropped the name Sense from
>his last name meaning he still trying too hard. 4)

HAHAHAHA WHAT?! I wasn't gonna respond to the rest of your mumbling because none of it makes sense but I had to ask what the fuck you could possibly mean by saying that dropping "Sense" from his name means he's trying too hard?! WHAT?!?!


>yeah Common wanted to be where Snoop was and he linned up with
>Kayne in a last ditch effort because making hit and miss music
>and not hitting said audience gets old real fast. 5)
>
>Common ain't seeing no top tier Fellow Hip Hop Artist in
>catelog. He couldn't Carry Nas's Chain let alone Snoop's Doo
>Rag. or Ice Cube's Afro Pick. good but never great or elite
>only in here. 6)
>
>Snoop is like Walter Payton to Common's Eddie Payton a few
>touchdowns and moments are nice, however Common ain't No HOF
>or close to no Snoop.
>
>if Snoop has 85% filler than Common got 95% filler because
>aside from a few joints ain't nobody felt his stuff like that
>in years.
>
>Common can spit and got skills, however he didn't always put
>it together proper. 7)

It's funny how you failed to respond to any one part of what Anonymous said. You're moving the goal posts. It's really not worth responding to.

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50. "lol both of them clowned him...wonder if this turkey regrets not"
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making yet another Kells/Bobby Brown thread instead of coming in here.

Anyone attempting to put Snoop over Com HAS to bring in aspects other than emceeing.


And, as its been pointed out, there is literally NOTHING you can get mad at Common for that Snoop himself hasn't done or at least tried. . .

NOTHING

I'm all for standing up for the west coast and calling out the east coast bias...


Common is the better lyricist, songwriter, rapper- you name it.

  

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55. "For real yo, fuck this turkey gobler "
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And I was actually playing Doggystyle when this thread popped up and I want to just add that that album is overrated as well.

It was cool when I was 12 but listening to it at 30 really doesn't do much.

Obviously there is the nostalgia but the rhymes are very immature and basic.

Snoop has great delivery and voice and that's about it.

His rhyme patterns are elementary, his lyrics are borderline corny at times, and his topics are childish.

Like I said, cool when I was 12, but Aint No Fun doesn't really work for me at 30 .

And that's not to say that I need some type of education or maturity in all my music, but there is a line at some point.

Common just has some really great songs and verses and he has something to say and I appreciate that a lot more than a story like Lodi Dodi at this point in my life.

  

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63. "no regrets because more people over time listen to Snoop"
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and the obvious West Side!!!!!! Bias in here is comical. Snoop has moved far more people. Snoop is far interesting in his lane than Common in his.

put it like this whereever Snooop went as a Free Agent he flipped that label Death Row with Dr Dre, No limit with Master P, then on with the Neptunes

i bet if Snoop went on Kayne's Label he would do solid there as well.

Common has tried to move around and has had mixed results. that electric circus junk nearly put him into Mack 10 territory of being written off for good.

Snoop keeps a cut going and going.

only in OKP World can Common be put in the same sentence as Snoop, in the real world Snoop is Scobby Doo to Common's Scrappy Doo Jive turkeys.

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64. "^^^took the short bus to school"
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> and the obvious West Side!!!!!! Bias in here is comical.
>Snoop has moved far more people. Snoop is far interesting in
>his lane than Common in his.
>

So more people listening to an artist means they're a better MC? I mean, I've already asked this wheni used the vanilla ice and Monch analogy but you don't seem to be able to actually discuss anything.

>put it like this whereever Snooop went as a Free Agent he
>flipped that label Death Row with Dr Dre, No limit with
>Master P, then on with the Neptunes
>

Dre flipped Death Row and the proof is in when Dre left. No Limit didn't change at all and neither did the Tunes.

>i bet if Snoop went on Kayne's Label he would do solid there
>as well.
>

Snoop didn't do anything to change the labels and without the crutch of a super producer, he ain't shit.

>Common has tried to move around and has had mixed results.
>that electric circus junk nearly put him into Mack 10
>territory of being written off for good.
>
>Snoop keeps a cut going and going.
>
>only in OKP World can Common be put in the same sentence as
>Snoop, in the real world Snoop is Scobby Doo to Common's
>Scrappy Doo Jive turkeys.

Only in your special little mind is Snoop blowing Common out in terms of MCing which I still don't think you fully understand what we're talking about.

  

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65. "http://i51.tinypic.com/2qltwmh.jpg"
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47. "RE: let me break it down for you about Snoop"
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>better album

That made me laugh.


>better live performer

This is extremely, extremely, extremely questionable. Common is a phenomenal live performer.

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41. "I love Com, but Snoop all day"
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no question.

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45. "The better MC? Common is definitely the better MC"
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and anyone arguing otherwise is talking about Snoop's career or hit records...

  

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46. "Technically, probably Common... but I'd rather listen to Snoop any day."
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Let's not act like Snoop can't spaz out though.

I mean, this shit? Come on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2nAFomMBUo

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52. "my feelings exactly"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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54. "Snoop started out hot but then he mellowed out."
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Common gets my vote. I love Snoop on this track:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SXr6aUFP8U

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57. "this is an abysmal train wreck of a thread"
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this fool asks a question that he doesn't even know the accurate meaning of.

then along the way, changes his "meaning" to include other shit.

pitifully, pitifully, pitifully, dumb.

like, not worth using any brain cells i didn't drink away dumb.

i'm mad that i already replied a few times.

this will be the last.

  

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58. "yet you keep coming in here posting, something I never understand"
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w/dudes such as yourself who are always coming in other op's posts to talk shit


>this fool asks a question that he doesn't even know the
>accurate meaning of.

there is NO accurate meaning when it comes to debating which rappers are the GOAT you sissy lol...most ppl idea of why an MC is better than another is totally subjective...and this poll is proof of that because Snoop will go down in history as the better MC over Common - notwithstanding your "expert" opinion
>
>then along the way, changes his "meaning" to include other
>shit.

what "other shit?" other than lyrical skills, which speaks for itself, and I'm in agreement that Common is the better lyricist but Snoop offers other qualities as an MC that shouldn't be dismissed such as the voice and his wit and charisma on the mic but I thought you lesson head nerds are supposed to be fairly smart when it comes to discussing music topics but obviously not.

So let me say for the record that me including overall CDs and music/songs implied, as far as I'm concerned, their wide appeal, their longevity, and cultural impact...but but that's adding other ish into the discussion according to you. Or is it just abt who had the better production or whose cds had the best song structure or who wroter the best hooks on their records or is it abt whose music *you* personally like best?
>
>pitifully, pitifully, pitifully, dumb.
>
>like, not worth using any brain cells i didn't drink away
>dumb.
>
>i'm mad that i already replied a few times.

no your not because you've been in this post too many times.
>
>this will be the last.

thanx for stopping by

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60. "You and me both"
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>i'm mad that i already replied a few times.

This post is like a bad case of poison ivy. It's impossible to resist scratching it, and yet the more you scratch it the worse it gets.

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61. "Haha - well said."
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62. "and yet you're here again lol...just admit I'm right KIM"
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>>i'm mad that i already replied a few times.
>
>This post is like a bad case of poison ivy. It's impossible
>to resist scratching it, and yet the more you scratch it the
>worse it gets.
>
>

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67. "RE: Commom or Snoop: Who's The Better MC?"
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Common wins but the world has forgotten that Snoop can rap his ass off.

His voice and just general disposition on the mic are second to none, and he knows that, but dude can rhyme for days. HIs freestyles alone during the Doggystyle days were better than most dudes albums.

  

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68. "RE: Commom or Snoop: Who's The Better MC?"
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PLAYBOY: You've won all the trumpet polls. After yourself, how would you rank others?

DAVIS: After me! Hell, it's plenty great trumpet players don't come after me, or after nobody else! That's what I hate so about critics -- how they are always comparing artists...always writing that one's better than another one. Ten men can have spent all their lives learning technical expertness on their instruments, but just like in any art, one will play one style and the rest nine other ways. And if some critics just don't happen to like a man's style, they will knock the artist. That bugs the hell out of musicians. It's made some damn near mad enough to want to hang up their horns.

Trumpet players, like anybody else, are individualized by their different ideas and styles. The thing to judge in any jazz artist is does the man project, and does he have ideas. You take Dizzy -- he does, all the time, every time he picks up his horn. Some more cats -- Clark Terry, Ray Nance, Kenny Dorham, Roy Eldridge, Harold Baker, Freddie Hubbard, Lee Morgan, Bobby Hackett -- a lot of them. Hell, that cat down in New Orleans, Al Hirt, he blows his ass off, too!

  

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