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Bblock
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"i wish david ruffin was produced by gamble and huff..."


  

          

that philly soul with his voice?
ah man homie!

what's some other pairings you wished had occured

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Good call....
Mar 07th 2012
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Watching his Unsung made me wonder why it didn't happen
Mar 07th 2012
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lets see what could Gamble and Huff done for him that
Mar 07th 2012
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every hit for teddy pendergrass could have been a hit for david ruffin.
Mar 07th 2012
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      i disagree strongly with that
Mar 07th 2012
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           i was just going by their stype of singing.
Mar 07th 2012
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i agree totally. that wouldve been a match made in heaven
Mar 07th 2012
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But Do You Think Gamble & Huff Would've Put Up With David's
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RE: i wish david ruffin was produced by gamble and huff...
Mar 07th 2012
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RE: i wish david ruffin was produced by gamble and huff...
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Warren Coolidge
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1. "Good call.... "
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in the same way Teddy could ride them uptempo arrangements with some soul.... Dave would have been cold with that.

David Ruffin's voice had the perfect mix of grit and smoothness in it.

  

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Dr Claw
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2. "Watching his Unsung made me wonder why it didn't happen"
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that would have given him the solo discography a voice like his deserved.

  

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3. "lets see what could Gamble and Huff done for him that "
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Norman Whitfield and Holland,Dozier and Holland coundln't? mind you I love Gamble and Huff, however in case you didn't get the memo they were highly influenced by those cats at motown.

the only cat from the Philly sound i could see on David Ruffin would be the Great Thom Bell. now that I would have dug to hear.

and then a Burt Bachrach would have been cool for him as well IMO.

Ruffin was badd and yet he didn't have solo career bad in him and that is alright because not every lead cat does.




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Joe Corn Mo
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5. "every hit for teddy pendergrass could have been a hit for david ruffin."
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Wed Mar-07-12 12:17 PM by Joe Corn Mo

  

          

every song that the o'jays sang
could have been sang by david ruffin.

it would have been a good fit.



actually, a better fit
than his solo material, which i always found underwhelming.



also... thom bell is always the cat
for smooth stuff.

all his best work
was with lead singers that were smooth as silk...

delphonics,
stylistics,
spinner...

no rough edges to their voices at all.






he could have done his thing w/ gamble and huff.

  

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mistermaxxx08
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6. "i disagree strongly with that "
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Teddy Pendergrass for One was marketed differently. RUffin was never that type of artist. RUffin was happening before the Motown original of Teddy Pendergrass and his name was Marvin gaye. and did Ruffin ever mix themes and topics as well as Gaye? naw 1)

Eddie Levert had a distinctive singing style and his voice and the O'jays were a better fit there as well.


going by your logic you could also say that Eddie Kendricks could have rode the Philly International train and hit as well.

IMO you are insulting the Motown brass because Ruffin already was surroounded by the top in flight songwriters and Producers, Problem was his consistance and dependence.

believe me Berry Gordy would have pushed his thing if Ruffin's demons didn't get the best of him.

IMO Ruffin could have reinvented his wheel like how Johnny Gutiar watson, Johnny Taylor and and what ZZ Hill Later did with his voice and it would have worked IMO,

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Joe Corn Mo
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7. "i was just going by their stype of singing."
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i wouldn't think that kendricks would have fit
on gamble and huff,

but now that i think about it
thom bell probablly could have hooked him up.


but anyway... i just said that b/c
i can hear ruffin siging "turn off the lights" in my head.

i can hear him singing backstabbers in my head.




i agree that ruffin's deamons got the best of him,
and that's why he didn't really get heat behind him at motowown.

i have no reason to believe that motown would "sabatoge" ruffin's
his career or anything like that.



>Teddy Pendergrass for One was marketed differently. RUffin
>was never that type of artist. RUffin was happening before the
>Motown original of Teddy Pendergrass and his name was Marvin
>gaye. and did Ruffin ever mix themes and topics as well as
>Gaye? naw 1)
>
>Eddie Levert had a distinctive singing style and his voice and
>the O'jays were a better fit there as well.
>
>
>going by your logic you could also say that Eddie Kendricks
>could have rode the Philly International train and hit as
>well.
>
>IMO you are insulting the Motown brass because Ruffin already
>was surroounded by the top in flight songwriters and
>Producers, Problem was his consistance and dependence.
>
>believe me Berry Gordy would have pushed his thing if
>Ruffin's demons didn't get the best of him.
>
>IMO Ruffin could have reinvented his wheel like how Johnny
>Gutiar watson, Johnny Taylor and and what ZZ Hill Later did
>with his voice and it would have worked IMO,

  

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4. "i agree totally. that wouldve been a match made in heaven"
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Jordan!

  

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Dj Joey Joe
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8. "But Do You Think Gamble & Huff Would've Put Up With David's"
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...antics and habits, those shows don't always get the big picture or all the stories from other industry heads cause you will be surprised how rumors spread quickly and how some can get a bad rep.


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Strangeways
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9. "RE: i wish david ruffin was produced by gamble and huff..."
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david would have been too much of an asshole for gamble and huff

  

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Strangeways
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10. "RE: i wish david ruffin was produced by gamble and huff..."
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david would have been too much of an ego for gamble and huff

  

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