Joe Corn Mo Member since Aug 29th 2010 15139 posts
Fri Mar-02-12 10:30 AM
2. ""stan" is a reference to the eminem song of the same title." In response to Reply # 0 Fri Mar-02-12 10:31 AM by Joe Corn Mo
"stan" details the story of a crazed fan that is writing crazy ass letters to eminem.
stan eventually flipped out and killed himself and his pregnant girlfriend.
"stan" = crazy ass fanatic.
i don't know where backpacker came from, but it means somebody that only like "underground" "intelligent" hip hop... although it has a negative connotation nowadays...
used as a prejorative, it implies that a person that is a "backpacker" hates anything that is popular, even if it's good.
I also heard that "backpacker" became prominent when Black Moon first dropped their debut. Like how Buckshot would always rock a Jansport. That whole 1993 shit.
JAESCOTT777 Member since Feb 18th 2006 28487 posts
Fri Mar-02-12 03:21 PM
11. "^^this covers it I would add that backpackers " In response to Reply # 2
Focus on artists who are considered underground Which is ok but they tend to have an obvious agenda In that these artist are better than (insert popular artist)
The tricky part is when these "underground" artist Have commercial success a lot of times they turn on them
17. "RE: That's what it **became** though." In response to Reply # 16
Initially it meant obsessive groupie type. The sort of uncritical-thinking "superfan" that says, "I love everything by (rapper/band/singer) because they made it!" This person is very stupid and deserves to be called on their lack of critical thinking.
Then it became a weak retort for someone who had nothing intelligent to offer. First person: "I like something because of (well explained reasoning)." Person that disagrees but can't articulate why: "Okay, Stan!"
originally was a term of endearment during the "conscious" era signifying someone who was into "real" or "true" hip-hop
it was used because of the use of backpacks by graffiti artists (for carrying cans of pant) and by folks who would carry lots of underground/independent tapes for sale or as free giveaways difficult over time it became a derisive term used by folks who were making hip-hop for more commercial and/or less artistic reasons on some "oh you must be one of those backpackers"
as with most slang terms (and totally unlike "stan" or "ether" where we can pinpoint) its hard to actually know who coined the term originally
10. "Stan - Em, Backpacker - the Source Mag." In response to Reply # 0
I'm fairly sure it started there in response to so called conscious hiphop losing it's ground and a way to identify those who listened to hiphop beyond what was dominant at the time - Gangster rap.
TheAlbionist Member since Jul 04th 2011 3306 posts
Fri Mar-02-12 04:42 PM
12. "I always figured "backpacker" was the skate/graf crossover cro..." In response to Reply # 0 Fri Mar-02-12 04:44 PM by TheAlbionist
... conscious rhymes, golden era beats, complaining that the DJ is playing floorfillers... always had a backpack on at the show, possibly with a skateboard hanging from it.
15. "Its safe to say that Stan was popularized by the internet..." In response to Reply # 0
...obviously Eminem coined the phrase but the internet made it what it is.
As far as the term backpacker, Kids that were into underground NY hip hop in the mid 90's would rock a backpack, it was the style then. It later grew a more negative connotation towards those same kids...
the term stan is a clever means of pointing out someone is the proverbial "devil"
also backpacker is a clever way of saying someone has "things" in the "back" of them, and "packs" them...aka GAY
hip hop of the late 90's and early 00's was dedicated to the eradication of devils and gays, hence the "predictive programming" of these terms into the culture leading to okayplayer analyzing the these sublime and mysterious terms years later
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