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"Bon Iver declining to play at the Grammy's"


  

          

What yall think?

At first I thought it was cool, but I keep thinking about who it was they were asked to play for instead being allowed to do their own music.

If anything they'll get just as much publicity from declining if they did perform.

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he's got a pretty dirty fucking mouth
Feb 05th 2012
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not that bon iver is in anywhere near the same league
Feb 05th 2012
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Nope. Their "Beth/Rest" performance on SNL was AMAZING.
Feb 06th 2012
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RE: Side-post:
Feb 05th 2012
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I really don't get what everyone goes nuts over
Feb 05th 2012
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Agreed
Feb 06th 2012
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this is how I feel about Fleet Foxes
Feb 06th 2012
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here's why i like bon iver/jv
Feb 06th 2012
13
Thats not the whole story
Feb 05th 2012
4
well...that's dumb. wat was the rationale behind that?
Feb 06th 2012
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      i'm guessing the unfamiliarity factor
Feb 06th 2012
10
Maybe this means J. Cole will perform
Feb 06th 2012
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I dont care for the s/t album, but i ride for vernon
Feb 06th 2012
12

Nodima
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1. "he's got a pretty dirty fucking mouth"
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that shit surprised me.


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howisya
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2. "not that bon iver is in anywhere near the same league"
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but radiohead did the same thing the year 'ok computer' was nominated; in their case, they were asked to play w/ bowie

anyway, a bon iver performance would be supremely boring to watch on tv, but i guess it wouldn't be any better or worse than a bunch of lip synchers

  

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Heinz
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8. "Nope. Their "Beth/Rest" performance on SNL was AMAZING."
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http://consequenceofsound.net/2012/02/video-bon-iver-hits-saturday-night-live/

  

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Austin
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3. "RE: Side-post:"
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Would love to know the appeal of Bon Iver.

I'm all for people telling the Grammy's to eat it, though.

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5. "I really don't get what everyone goes nuts over"
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It's boring as shit, not bad or untalented just boring.

  

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lakai336
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6. "Agreed"
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and though fans won't ever admit it, if you took away the falsetto on that self-titled EP and put on normal vocals, you'd have an Emo album. Like late 90's early 2000's attempting to sound beautiful and epic kind of Emo.

Boring song arrangements, average lyrics coupled with a falsetto (making him sound unique I guess) but not appealing.

Sufjan Stevens during his pretty music heyday was worth the hype. Bon Iver doesn't move me.

  

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7. "this is how I feel about Fleet Foxes"
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Mon Feb-06-12 01:16 AM by Nodima

  

          

who I know Austin rides for. different strokes. Bon Iver hits me on a deeply personal level, it's just a gut reaction from the moment I heard his self-titled record. I think "Skinny Love" is an all-timer. "Blindsided" is one of the most personally relatable songs I've ever come across, I mean that is basically a very vivid moment in my life written by somebody else and set to awesome music. I went back to his stuff under Justin Vernon and DeYarmond Edison and it wasn't as good but there still at least ten songs from his bum local artist era I was completely sucked in by. And this self-titled record is just gorgeous to me, a step behind For Emma but that record was perfect to me, hitting me the same way Elliott Smith used to when I was a kid.

When I saw these guys live they put on a fantastic show, too, stringing all of the songs together in medleys with a diverse array of instruments (about seven dudes in the touring band I believe) and really putting on a show. I definitely had more than a few drinks but from the very start of their show I just stood there mesmerized for an hour and a half, I felt like my first Yo la Tengo show just totally lost in the music. I don't get that feeling live very often, I'm too self conscious about the weirdness of being in an audience.

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13. "here's why i like bon iver/jv"
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Mon Feb-06-12 12:36 PM by cbk

          

he's got a "we've all been there" story--when our young optimism hits a brick wall. he was homesick, his band broke up, and he had a bad breakup with his lady. plus some health and emotional issues. he desperately needed to start over.

dude goes home, isolates himself in his father's cabin.

starts fooling around with his dad's old guitar and his out-dated pro tools rig. pours his sorrows into the music, never meaning to have this stuff for public consumption.

realizes he was a pretty good album on his hands (kinda reminded me of a folky "dirty mind," but that's just me).

builds a fanbase with this lil' ass record. expands the sound gradually in his live shows.

then he makes a pretty dope ep.

gets sample by kanye (wtf???...but it kinda makes sense).

lays down some good stuff on "monster". i'm always a sucker for REALLY non-hip-hop guys working with rappers and the results don't stick out like a sore thumb.

i didn't check for bon iver, bon iver until it got a lot of attention late last year. i liked it. it's not my favorite LP of all time (yet...), but it keeps me company in my day-to-day. there's new stuff i hear every time i put it on. it's a slow burner that i keep going back to.

looking back, that's a pretty impressive career trajectory. from his dad's cabin to SNL, and then giving the middle finger to the grammy's.

all of that is awesome to me.

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4. "Thats not the whole story"
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basically the grammys told them they couldnt play their own songs, and had to collaborate with another artist in order to perform.

so it was kind of a slap in the face to be told they couldnt perform their song that got nominated.

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9. "well...that's dumb. wat was the rationale behind that?"
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10. "i'm guessing the unfamiliarity factor"
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the grammy's not having the balls to give an "unknown" (to the masses) artist they nominated the spotlight for a few minutes of their own music... the catch is, they did that for arcade fire last year, but it was immediately before they handed them album of the year, and the bon iver situation is probably the grammy's reverting to their old ways (see my radiohead comment) after all the backlash last year for awarding arcade fire. even last year during that show, mumford and sons, as big as they'd already gotten by that point, had to be part of a "folk" medley with bob dylan, although that included a few minutes of their own music. the grammy's are known for playing it safe.

  

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11. "Maybe this means J. Cole will perform"
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yay!

  

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12. "I dont care for the s/t album, but i ride for vernon"
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i think he respects music and has a genuine love of it. he doesnt put up with commercial bullshit.

that said, i was not a fan of the album. loved for emma though.

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