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"Proof of the industry's double standard: Janet vs Madonna"


  

          

So the chick that put out her own sex book is now safe for the Super Bowl huh... that's cool. I guess they don't have to worry about Madonna pulling out one of those flat tires on national TV and embarrassing herself.

Meanwhile she leaked her new single this week... a song that's basically an updated version of Janet's failed 2004 single "Just a Little While"... but she stays on the cutting edge unlike Janet.

So yeah she's also going on tour this summer with plans on charging upwards of $300 for an average run of the mill seat... her response to fans being shut out? "Start saving your pennies now. People spend $300 on crazy things all the time, things like handbags. So work all year, scrape the money together, and come to my show. I'm worth it."... What a woman of the people she is.

Of course we all know Madonna is a superior singer & dancer too right... I mean is there a question?

And looks? Shiiiiiit... just look at those golden locks... big booties are disgusting anyway.

So it's obvious why Madonna is still a hot commodity and Janet is fast approaching has been status.... right? It's as clear as day... no?

Well she's white what else do you want?
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is this a Friday Fun post?
Feb 03rd 2012
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Old man rant is more like it
Feb 03rd 2012
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Dogg... I've nothing to add but I LMMFAO.
Feb 03rd 2012
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not too mention there ain't no love lost between the two
Feb 03rd 2012
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lol "Joyce Dewett" - hahahaha... yoooo
Feb 03rd 2012
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I almost typed something off that, but I chilled...
Feb 03rd 2012
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HA! Maxx went INNNNN! lmao
Feb 04th 2012
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you're giving Madonna's acting too much credit...
Feb 05th 2012
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hahahaha... *daps* seriously.
Feb 03rd 2012
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yeah I thought the same thing....
Feb 03rd 2012
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i guess Madonna being a Single Mother gets her a pass?
Feb 03rd 2012
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Pretty much - I'm still surprised ppl didn't call Timberlake OUT!
Feb 03rd 2012
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RE: Proof of the industry's double standard: Janet vs Madonna
Feb 03rd 2012
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RE: Proof of the industry's double standard: Janet vs Madonna
Feb 03rd 2012
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Madonna's Sex book was 20 years ago, though.
Feb 03rd 2012
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Dude I told you I was on a rant
Feb 03rd 2012
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      LOL
Feb 03rd 2012
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           *rubs hands together*
Feb 03rd 2012
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aka the Cave Bitch stay winnin'
Feb 03rd 2012
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Fear Of A Black Titty reswipe for semi relevancy
Feb 03rd 2012
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Desperately needing an editor, but I like it nonetheless
Feb 03rd 2012
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if it's because of mispellings, that's my fault
Feb 03rd 2012
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Some valid points here but..........
Feb 03rd 2012
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      donna summers never gets her due and Millie Jackson is unsung..
Feb 03rd 2012
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But Janet got the Super Bowl tap before Madonna?
Feb 03rd 2012
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they asked Madonna for years for one thing
Feb 03rd 2012
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      Justin Timberlake got off easy
Feb 03rd 2012
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      Somehow I doubt that stunt was his idea...
Feb 03rd 2012
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           Timberfake wasn't trying to be Nursed when he was pulling
Feb 03rd 2012
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This post is really stupid.
Feb 03rd 2012
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RE: This post is really stupid.
Feb 03rd 2012
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shut up Cracker
Feb 03rd 2012
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Is there any compelling reason to check for Janet in 2012?
Feb 03rd 2012
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Its not about relevancy its about hypocrisy
Feb 03rd 2012
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      Janet Jackson showed her boob on live TV
Feb 03rd 2012
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           I love how the super bowl thing is where everyone is getting stuck
Feb 03rd 2012
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           hey dumbass..pay attention
Feb 03rd 2012
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It's not about white, it's about status and money
Feb 03rd 2012
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Some key parts in your post
Feb 03rd 2012
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RE: Some key parts in your post
Feb 03rd 2012
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      Honestly this is one big circle
Feb 03rd 2012
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           RE: Honestly this is one big circle
Feb 03rd 2012
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           RE: Honestly this is one big circle
Feb 05th 2012
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you forgot Britney Spears she is still a big deal
Feb 03rd 2012
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yes.
Feb 04th 2012
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i mean, yeah. n/m
Feb 03rd 2012
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Talk bro talk
Feb 03rd 2012
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I mean... no.
Feb 03rd 2012
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but you realise
Feb 03rd 2012
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yup. this too.
Feb 04th 2012
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Madonna has managed her irrelevancy better than Janet
Feb 03rd 2012
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I Hate To Say It But Janet's Last 2 Albums Wasn't Pop Enough
Feb 04th 2012
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she got the gay white fanbase on lock. that's why.
Feb 05th 2012
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nigga, janet pulled out her titty tryna be provactive....
Feb 05th 2012
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Proof of the blah blah blah: Janet vs Madonna vs. M.I.A.?
Feb 05th 2012
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1. "is this a Friday Fun post?"
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2. "Old man rant is more like it"
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I had the misfortune of running into a hardcore Madonna fan last night

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3. "Dogg... I've nothing to add but I LMMFAO."
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"flat tires"

  

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4. "not too mention there ain't no love lost between the two"
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Michael inspired and and influenced both Janet and Madonna and i say that to say that is all they have in common with one another aside from being industry vets.


Madonna backlash over the "Sex Book and she didn't sell as many records at a point in the 90's as her golden 80's hey day.

but yeah Janet got Black Balled and being Black is used against her.

as big as Janet Jackson is and mind you i got the Uptmost respect for Tyler Perry as a film maker and his game, however you don't mean to tell me that he is the only game in town as far as directors go that gave her a chance on the big screen? and Madonna's acting at best is at Joyce Dewitt's Level. IMO

Madonna's music has been tired for so long i can't even tell when was the last time i felt something from her. for me 83-bedtime stories she at least kept one cut for a while i dug.

janet for me 85-95. difference though Janets live game is better to me.

but after hearing that corny oh mickey meets hollaback girl wack song last night by Madonna i'm kinda Afraid of what she might do on sunday musically. that mess is garbage.

both Madonna and Janet are way past there primes and peaks however Janet is getting classier and she is smoothing it out.

Madonna is starting to remind me of Flo from "Alice" all mouth and no action.

i always say the same thing or Black artists aren't allowed to get older and do there thing in a prime way.

ain't nothing wrong with Donna Summer's now,but when was the last time the Super Bowl or any other medium reached out to her?

she looks and sounds 5 times better than Madonna and Madonna ate off her plate and other Black acts, but that is another topic.

Madonna is still a tacky turkey and she recently took a shot at Janet about the super bowl.

madonna needs to sit her 80's wanna be Jane fonda with no Honda self on down and be thankful that she was smart to keep a long career despite the obvious lack of depth.

while i like old madonna stuff musically, i've been so through with her for so long that i don't pay her no mind and wonder the same exact thing why she still getting so much shine?

her Guitar Playing and rapping made my left pinky toe fall out and faint after laughing so hard.

Ole trick needs a fridge and eat

get some music again and stop trying to do the euro

and leave the films alone

and stop tripping on gaga etc..


Janet is cool and classy with her's right now.

but Janet don't have the Mob money on her like Madonna.

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6. "lol "Joyce Dewett" - hahahaha... yoooo"
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9. "I almost typed something off that, but I chilled..."
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48. "HA! Maxx went INNNNN! lmao"
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51. "you're giving Madonna's acting too much credit..."
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She'd be outclassed on screen with that dog from Full House.

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5. "hahahaha... *daps* seriously. "
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If I were could have predicted during Mj's apex that twenty years later the big thing would be some white cat impersonating him...? I would have joined a suicide cult then. yeah basically.

  

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7. "yeah I thought the same thing...."
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they made such a big stink about Janet....saying they were going to go more family friendly in the future and they've had old former drunk rock stars and now madonna and nicky minaj since..

major double standard.

  

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21. "i guess Madonna being a Single Mother gets her a pass?"
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i'm sure Milt ROmeny and Newt Gingrich will Be "voguing" and Tvo Her Medley in excitement.

i mean the Super Bowl is about conservative values is what they say they are heading right??

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23. "Pretty much - I'm still surprised ppl didn't call Timberlake OUT!"
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8. "RE: Proof of the industry's double standard: Janet vs Madonna"
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Yep...I dig some of Madge's shit...

But....it helps to be white...lol

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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10. "RE: Proof of the industry's double standard: Janet vs Madonna"
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There is no double standard unless Madonna flashes a flat tire and gets praise for it. They added LMFAO and Nikki Minaj for goodness sakes. If that isn't a slap in the face to a pop Queen I don't know what is...

Janet should have never done the titty-pop. Worst move of her career.

  

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11. "Madonna's Sex book was 20 years ago, though."
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I don't see why that should be factored into a discussion in 2012. More people have *heard* of that book than actually *seen* it.

(And amongst the younger generations, how many of them have even heard of it... and of those who have, how many of them care?)

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12. "Dude I told you I was on a rant"
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now you want context?

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13. "LOL"
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I know... Which is why I originally asked if this was a FF post and left it alone before, but then I felt later that I had to add some context since it's looking like people are taking it kinda seriously and it has the potential to turn into a dogpile of some sort.

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15. "*rubs hands together*"
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> and it has the potential to turn
>into a dogpile of some sort.

My over all point stands... I just took parts of it over the top

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14. "aka the Cave Bitch stay winnin'"
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16. "Fear Of A Black Titty reswipe for semi relevancy"
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From Ernerst Hardy in L.A. Weekly

"Fear of a Black Titty-treating Janet like you don’t love her

You live by the pop machine, you die by the pop machine. The sleek commodity known as Janet Damito Joe Jackson DeBarge Elizondo Jackson has done her share of living and dying lately, often simultaneously. She’s been all over editorial pages and gossip columns; her Super Bowl controversy launched two phrases into popular vernacular (wardrobe malfunction;Nipplegate), and yet her latest album, Damita Jo, is widely percieved as a commercial flop and critical disappointment (even thogh its first-week sales were far stronger than those of recent releases by Madonna, Britney, Whitney or J-Lo). Radio has been lukewarm at best, and the hypocrites at MTV have all but banished her from their airwaves. For someone so long plugged into the machine, Jackson has committed one critical error after another—the Super Bowl fiasco, the staggeringly bad choice for a first single, a lackluster video for that first single.

That’s not to say that the disc is an unfairly maligned masterpiece. It’s loaded with far too much dross: inane interludes where Janet burbles like a ditz, musing on island vacations, the origins of her middle name and whatever fluff pops into her head; the limp sex odes “Moist” and “Warmth,” which sound like they were penned and sung by some narcotized junior high school ho; an obsession with sex that started three albums ago and whose dividends are only rarely even semi-interesting. It doesn’t help that neither the “official” lead single, “I Want You,’ nor the “leaked” single, “Just a Little While,” are anything other than album filler.

But wait. Damita Jo is still better than most reviews and work-of-mouth would have you believe. Thank the producers. The whole thing is very much a retro affair, from the girl-group arrangement of “I Want You” to the infectious doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo that opens the album’s best track, “Like You Don’t Love Me,” and attitude-laden TLC-ish demand for a good, vigorous fuck (“You need to make love to me/like you don’t love me”) to the Vanity 6 homage in “Strawberry Bounce.” And “R&B Junkie,” the CD’s second-best track and likely candidate for club hit of the summer, has offended many detractors with its boulder-size sample from Evelyn King’s “I’m in Love,” but the gambit works in the context of a song that’s an ode to old-school and soul music and the dances those sounds inspired. Meanwhile, producer Kanye West continues his midtempo winning streak with “My Baby,” while the lilting, aptly named “Island Life” is pure seduction set to a groove. Had some careful pruning taken place before the album’s release, the CD could have been at least a minor-chord “F-you” victory to the wolves nipping at Janet’s tits.

JANET JACKSON IS SIMULTANEOUSLY a minor talent and the unheralded mother-architect, for better or worse, of the current pop world. And though she’d be loath to admit it, her artistic baby-daddy is Paula Abdul, whose Control-era choreography has been the template for not only most of Miss Jackson’s moves over the past 15 years but for most pop choreography, period. (Producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis are the nannies who do all the unglamorous, necessary grunt work.)
While it’s a conditioned reflex for mainstream critics to heap praise upon Madonna a the mold from which MTV’s pop brigade is stamped, the truth is a bit more complicated. What Madonna’s really handed down has been a bottle of peroxide, a palpable contempt for her audience and a refresher course on the ways in which white skin earns props for its bearers way out of proportion to anything they actually do. Throw in some marketing-savvy DNA and you pretty much have her artistic legacy summed up. Case in point: The pathetic, creepy, faux-lesbian kiss last year between Madonna and Britney was largely interpreted as a passing of the diva torch. But Britney’s career, like those of her countless clones, rather than being a youthful updating of Madonna’s blueprint, is actually the Clorox remix of Janet’s. Brit’s every head snap, pelvic thrust and shoulder jerk was first executed by Miss Jackson, with many of her videos being almost frame-for-frame replications of past Janet clips. Even the most successful of the boy-band wave – ‘n Sync, Backstreet Boys – owe much of their performing style to Janet and her various choreographers. (Tellingly, when Justin Timberlake was in ‘N Sync, he and his group bit Janet’s style hard; as a solo artist, he lifts shamelessly from her brother.)

One of the most interesting aspects of the fallout from Janet’s controversial Super Bowl performance as been her subsequent psychological profile as crafted by a reactionary info-tainment machine. Her every media appearance is prefaced with the news that her host has instituted a five-second delay, as though her titty baring weren’t an aberration for her, but the norm. Everything from the increased heat placed on Howard Stern to edited nude scenes on E.R. to the recently canceled Victoria’s Secret television special has been blamed on her: She’s been turned from the tapioca dominatrix no one could possibly take seriously into the stereotypical sex-mad Negress who’ll corrupt all she touches – or might touch. (One of the few critics to point out the race aspect of the media reaction to Jackson has been the Village Voice’s Richard Goldstein, who, in a recent essay commenting on the varying ways that Courtney Love and Janet have been treated in the press, opined, “Thank God, for Courtney’s sake, that she’s white.”)

Pundits, who know they should be furious at something or someone but are too cowardly to take aim at the proper targets, have lumped endless scorn on Jackson for unleashing a puritanical FCC on us all. Aiming their vitriol at the agency itself would mean not only outlining the right-wing consolidation of media power in the hands of a privileged few, but also noting the Christian Taliban mentality of those who hold the purse strings and control the airwaves. In short, tit wold mean biting the conservative hand that signs their paychecks.

Meanwhile, Jackson’s Super Bowl accomplice, young mast Timberlake, has proven himself to be the bitch-made-pop-star you always knew he was. As though aiming to get his own chapter in Greg Tate’s book Everything but the Burden: What White People Are Taking From Black Culture, Timberlake shed all wigger affectations the moment he felt the heat of real controversy. He dropped the hip-hop gear, grabbed a suit and tie, and literally held his mommy’s hand as he strolled into this year’s Grammy Awards, where he all but burst into tears as he apologetically explained onstage how he’d been bamboozled into taking part in Janet’s shameful shenanigans. Poor thing.

THE REAL PROBLEM FOR JANET is that, in total, Damita Jo underscores her as the ultimate modern American sex symbol in ways she didn’t intend. As she cruises toward 40, she has to figure out what it means not only to compete with her own cultural spawn on a playing field whose terms are viciously youth-obsessed, but also what it means to be a mature woman who is sexually vibrant, sexually curious and willing to speak with candor about her desires and experience. For Jackson, that simply translates into a cataloging of sexual positions and X-rated activities. With her breathy, multitracked voice as her calling card and primary weapon, and slight-to-say-the-least lyrics as the bullets, she comes off more as a sexually precocious teenybopper than a women of the world.

It’s not just that there’s no depth to her boudoir insights and philosophical musings, or that the bulk of her lyrics manage the unimpressive feat of being explicit and banal, but that she’s morphing into as aging porn starlet of the most tragic type – chasing relevance with her bigger hair, ever bigger boobs, and a willingness to fall to her knees in mirthless, monotonous mimicry of sexual ecstasy. It’s like, after all the fucking and talking about fucking that she’s done, she has almost no idea what true liberation -- or even pleasure – really is. "
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17. "Desperately needing an editor, but I like it nonetheless"
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particularly the last paragraph or two

  

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18. "if it's because of mispellings, that's my fault"
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>particularly the last paragraph or two
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19. "Some valid points here but.........."
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I have some issues with the way black women aren't allowed to own their own sexuality... especially as they get older.
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20. "donna summers never gets her due and Millie Jackson is unsung.."
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while Madonna,Cher, get the Mr.Clean pass.

TIna turner stays classy with her thang but it came with a price though.

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22. "But Janet got the Super Bowl tap before Madonna?"
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I don't understand the double standard? Janet got to perform at the superbowl, she blew it by doing something stupid. Therefore, Madonna shouldn't get to perform??!?

The superbowl example is throwing me off. Are you just saying Janet and Madonna should be on the same star status? I could ride for this argument if Janet was putting out hot music that was getting slept on because she was unfairly still be punished for the titty-gate but is that the case?


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24. "they asked Madonna for years for one thing "
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and here is the real deal breaker Janet had to share a stage with Justin Timberlake who mysteriously a week after the episode is on the grammys playing a couple of chords on a keyboard grinning and winning awards after he was grabbing all on Janet on national tv where is the outrage?

you let Usher be on stage grabbing at Madonna and watch him get beat down like ROdney King on national tv and believe me a week later he wouldn't be on no grammys winning awards grinning.

he would in a hospital all dressed up like a mummy for the same thing.

it ain't Hot either because Madonna is a concert Legend drawing act and has been the case for over a decade now.

Madonna ain't had no real buzz with a new project since "ray of Light" which i found overrated IMO.

naw sexuality is at work here.

the thing is Justin Timberlake done got treated like benjamin franklin and janet Jackson been treated like dirt ole Maid.

seeing how he is just in a whole lot of films and to be honest with you that Turkey as actor is about Scott Baio level IMO.Scott Baio is cool though.

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26. "Justin Timberlake got off easy "
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because they had tons of money invested in Justin and he was in his early 20's. Janet was too old to do that bullshit.

  

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27. "Somehow I doubt that stunt was his idea... "
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Janet tried to pull some shit and it back fired.

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46. "Timberfake wasn't trying to be Nursed when he was pulling"
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he was guilty as Janet and yet he got a White Privledge pass while she got blackballed and treated like she did something truly awful.

not even Rosanne Barr went through what Janet Jackson did and Barr dissing and wrecking the national anthem was far more serious than Janet's thing.

janet paid a double price having that last name during what MJ was going through and Black female sexuality.

Timberfake wasn't in need of no Binky.

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25. "This post is really stupid."
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I bet you're going to call it racism next because your small mind can't conceive anything else.. right?

Gee, some of you really have nothing left to bitch about do you.

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28. "RE: This post is really stupid."
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29. "shut up Cracker"
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30. "Is there any compelling reason to check for Janet in 2012?"
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Is there a sizable population clamoring for Janet, but The Man and his cronies in The Industry aren't allowing it as payback?

Not saying Madonna music-wise is "OMG MUST HEAR!" status, but she seems more news worthy* to me in 2012/recent history.


(*meaning, as someone who isn't actively checking for Madonna or Janet, I still see or hear about Madonna doing philanthropic stuff, movie premieres, famous people activities, etc.)
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32. "Its not about relevancy its about hypocrisy"
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>Is there a sizable population clamoring for Janet, but The
>Man and his cronies in The Industry aren't allowing it as
>payback?
>
>Not saying Madonna music-wise is "OMG MUST HEAR!" status, but
>she seems more news worthy* to me in 2012/recent history.
>
>
>(*meaning, as someone who isn't actively checking for Madonna
>or Janet, I still see or hear about Madonna doing
>philanthropic stuff, movie premieres, famous people
>activities, etc.)
>__
>I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC
>didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!
>
>Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking
>burgers.(c)Kno
>
>Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization
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34. "Janet Jackson showed her boob on live TV"
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how a backlash to that surprises you is beyond me

  

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36. "I love how the super bowl thing is where everyone is getting stuck"
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like that is the only reason Janet gets the step child treatment

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37. "hey dumbass..pay attention"
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>how a backlash to that surprises you is beyond me

Nobody is saying that what she did was right or that there shouldnt be a fallout. But after banning Janet as well as the entertainment industry blacklisting her for a while due to the Superbowl incident, they choose Madonna to perform. She, who made a sex book with deviant acts in it etc etc etc. Among other things in the past few decades...cursing on live tv yadda yadda yadda...

  

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31. "It's not about white, it's about status and money"
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Madonna hit the very top echelon/icon status a long time ago because she made a shitload of money for a long time and kept her name in the press. She's beyond trend cycles now and above the industry. Anything she does for the rest of her life will be of interest - she's a pop music Marilyn Monroe.

Janet has had a nice respectable career but even in her prime she wasn't as big as Madonna, and she's now well past it. The sexual double standard you're alluding to is actually very easy to understand: Madonna's thing is now two decades old and she's reached elder statesman status. All is forgiven. Janet's thing is much more recent AND it happened on live TV, watched by zillions of people, costing lots of people a lot of money in fines; naturally there was backlash. If Janet had just quietly put out a Girls Gone Wild video of herself or something, there's a minor stir and a month later, no one cares. That's the difference. (The REAL double standard there is how nobody came down on Timberlake - it took two to expose that titty. But he's white AND male AND it wasn't his stuff on display...)

If you want to see black artists who were at Madonna's level, two of them came out of the eighties alongside her: Michael and Prince. Prince just did the Super Bowl to raves despite being a sexual freak for his entire career (and playing live in pants with the butt cut out!) and not having had a real hit album in about a hundred years. Michael could very likely still have gotten the Super Bowl up until his death, despite the allegations following him around. Make the industry enough money and they won't care what color or gender you are, not really.

It's been a while since a black woman had anything like Madonna status though. Mariah is probably closest. But to be fair, no white women have that status either. We can talk about Gaga if she's still doing it in two decades, but for now she's just aspiring. Madonna's the only female star in her weight class since she came on the scene - that really says it all.

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33. "Some key parts in your post"
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>she's a pop music Marilyn Monroe.

and why is MM the iconic symbol she is?

>Janet has had a nice respectable career but even in her prime
>she wasn't as big as Madonna

Wasn't as big with who? And why?

>If you want to see black artists who were at Madonna's level,
>two of them came out of the eighties alongside her: Michael
>and Prince.

Both men... somewhat androgynous non threatening men at that. But beyond that the sheer fact Madonna in ranked along side those two is telling in and of itself. We can play the "which one of these things is not like the other" game if you wish.

>It's been a while since a black woman had anything like
>Madonna status though. Mariah is probably closest.

Closest in shade too

>But to be
>fair, no white women have that status either. We can talk
>about Gaga if she's still doing it in two decades, but for now
>she's just aspiring. Madonna's the only female star in her
>weight class since she came on the scene - that really says it
>all.

Every era has had them... From Judy Garland to Barbra Streisand there has always been a dominate white female star. All you need to do is look back at how they were revered compared to their black female counterparts if you want to really compare. If Gladys Knight had gotten Streisand level love then maybe you could make an argument.

Really man a lot of the shit I said in the opening post was over the top... but to act like race isn't playing a role in how female pop stars are handled is pretty damn naive.

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38. "RE: Some key parts in your post"
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Starting with the key part...

>Really man a lot of the shit I said in the opening post was
>over the top... but to act like race isn't playing a role in
>how female pop stars are handled is pretty damn naive.

I'm not saying it doesn't play any role whatsoever. I'm certainly not that naive. But I don't think a post like this is too helpful because it takes a complicated issue and boils it down to one element. It reminds me of maxxx's posts about how the industry was always gunning to bring down MJ, and I'm like "Oh, that guy that made them ten billion dollars that they hyped through the fucking roof for most of his career?" It's just not that simple. For the most part, if you demonstrate an ability to make lots of cash with your art, the capitalists who run labels will happily exploit you and make you a megastar.

>and why is MM the iconic symbol she is?

Search me. But if it's solely because she's white, why is she the only one of her kind? Again - complicated issue.

>Wasn't as big with who? And why?

That's BEYOND complicated. I won't even pretend to have an answer. Why is Mariah still popular long after the sell-by date most predicted for her? I couldn't tell you that either.

>Both men... somewhat androgynous non threatening men at that.
>But beyond that the sheer fact Madonna in ranked along side
>those two is telling in and of itself. We can play the "which
>one of these things is not like the other" game if you wish.

It's not "telling" in the way you are implying it is. What it tells me is that you could dissect it for a year and probably not have a definitive answer, or at least not one that could easily be posted on an internet forum. To me, the straight implication of your original post is that Janet was less successful than Madonna because "the industry" is afraid of black female sexuality. I wouldn't say that there's not perhaps a smidge of truth in there, but I think a better question is why wasn't she as popular in her day as Madonna (or Mariah, or MJ/Prince); why she didn't last as long when Madonna did (or Mariah/MJ/Prince, again). Audience support and media has more to do with it, in my opinion, than some sort of industry effort to keep her from being as successful as she deserved. Was the record-buying public less interested in a sexy black female star than in a white one? Was the media less devoted to Janet than to Madonna because of the same thing? Maybe that's part of it - certainly not the whole enchilada. I dunno, I don't like to get into these conversations because it wants to take a troublesome, multi-faceted question and make it into a game of one-thing-or-the-other. I don't believe it was one or the other. But I do believe that when it comes to the major label game of the last few decades, money drove things more than anything else, so if the public and press were buying and hyping Janet, the labels would have been happy to elevate her to godhood. I do firmly believe that. A great capitalist is too cynical to be racist except in the privacy of his own home.

>>It's been a while since a black woman had anything like
>>Madonna status though. Mariah is probably closest.
>
>Closest in shade too

Whitney was bigger in her prime, and blacker; she derailed herself early. Of course she had a squeaky-clean image in her singing career so I don't know if that really counters the point you're making.

>Every era has had them... From Judy Garland to Barbra
>Streisand there has always been a dominate white female star.
>All you need to do is look back at how they were revered
>compared to their black female counterparts if you want to
>really compare. If Gladys Knight had gotten Streisand level
>love then maybe you could make an argument.

Aretha got big love and still does... Diana Ross too. Again, not saying you don't have a point, but it simplifies things too much to ignore the obvious counter-arguments. Too easy.

One interesting thing though? The people that helped make a lot of those girls into major icons were not the general public, the press or the industry, but the gay community. I have no idea why that is but the gays love a white diva - they also contributed greatly to Bette Midler's career. There's another weird complication that's worth dissecting.

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41. "Honestly this is one big circle"
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a lot of what we're touching on here goes right to our society as a whole. while we don't have black entertainers using back doors in 2012, we haven't completely deprogrammed the industry either. when you do something a certain way year after year, and decade after decade, patterns & mindsets develop... let them stand long enough and they become just part of the way things are. that's how institutions work. i'm sure there are still overtly racists people in positions of power but really what i'm talking about is far more subtle... and in many ways more dangerous. The music and entertainment industry operated a multilevel system based on race & sex for decades... many of those who came up through its ranks during the more overt days are now in high positions of power. i'm sure most would take offense at being called racists... in their mind i have no doubt they think they are fair minded individuals that see beyond race & sex. but what they do and how they think has been infused into their dna... its there and for the most part they don't even know it... same with mass media and society as a whole. that's why i found it ironic that you compared madonna to marilyn monroe... this woman is still used as a symbol of iconic beauty some 60-70 years later... why? because the idea of ultimate beauty has become institutionalized... and if something like that can survive from a bygone era then you have to ask what else has survived along with it. It's one big cycle man... not sure how long or what it will take to finally break it. my guess would be it won't happen until we have a major shift along racial lines in power and money. until then acts like janet are always going to be two steps behind someone like madonna.
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43. "RE: Honestly this is one big circle"
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5 Star posting.....^^^^

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53. "RE: Honestly this is one big circle"
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Beautifully put:)

>a lot of what we're touching on here goes right to our
>society as a whole. while we don't have black entertainers
>using back doors in 2012, we haven't completely deprogrammed
>the industry either. when you do something a certain way year
>after year, and decade after decade, patterns & mindsets
>develop... let them stand long enough and they become just
>part of the way things are. that's how institutions work. i'm
>sure there are still overtly racists people in positions of
>power but really what i'm talking about is far more subtle...
>and in many ways more dangerous. The music and entertainment
>industry operated a multilevel system based on race & sex for
>decades... many of those who came up through its ranks during
>the more overt days are now in high positions of power. i'm
>sure most would take offense at being called racists... in
>their mind i have no doubt they think they are fair minded
>individuals that see beyond race & sex. but what they do and
>how they think has been infused into their dna... its there
>and for the most part they don't even know it... same with
>mass media and society as a whole. that's why i found it
>ironic that you compared madonna to marilyn monroe... this
>woman is still used as a symbol of iconic beauty some 60-70
>years later... why? because the idea of ultimate beauty has
>become institutionalized... and if something like that can
>survive from a bygone era then you have to ask what else has
>survived along with it. It's one big cycle man... not sure how
>long or what it will take to finally break it. my guess would
>be it won't happen until we have a major shift along racial
>lines in power and money. until then acts like janet are
>always going to be two steps behind someone like madonna.
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45. "you forgot Britney Spears she is still a big deal"
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and i wouldn't be surprised if she gets a solo spot on a super bowl fairly soon and she is almsot 15 years deep into her career.

yeah your skin color matters because they made it a habbit of digging the Who out of the grave to perform, tom petty and the heartbreakers, Bruce Springsteen and the e street band.

BLACK acts that perform the super bowl gotta be huge names or no dice.

the industry has always been racist and always will be because to divide and conquer is always there.

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49. "yes."
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fuck you.

  

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35. "i mean, yeah. n/m"
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39. "Talk bro talk"
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Lets call it exactly what it is
Janet has been blacklisted since the Super Bowl
And to me that's disheartening
When did slobbing down young girls on tv get a pass?
Cuz the last time I checked, mainstream tv still trips on that kinda shit

I wonder how this old ho remains relevant in the media
MTV still treats this old bats every move like its 1986
Sheeeit the whole media does
What other artist way past their prime still gets that treatment
And why doesn't anyone protest this dame and her overpriced shows?
I know what kind of good time I can get for $300
Sheeeit I could have a....never mind lol

Back to the subject
I totally agree with u op

But they're both old ho's past their prime
And just like the game
The black girl gets the shaft
And the ofay gets some rich old dude to take care of her for life

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40. "I mean... no."
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Madonna is in the Guiness Book of World Records for selling albums.
I'm saying that right there puts her at the top. Who's competing? I'm not saying Janet ain't shit, but on a worldwide scale, she just isn't Madonna. Point is, nobody is.

And then, Janet popped her titty out on live national television. I mean, the FCC wasn't happy about that. I'd be surprised if anybody let her ass on live TV after that shit (Andrew Dice Clay knows about this shit too).

And Madonna's old ass isn't surprising anybody. We've gotten all that she has to give. Anything she does, she's doing with legend status now. And if you really think about it, that's exactly where Janet was when she did the titty-pop. You want to talk about double standards, and I'm right there with you, but this shit is not a double standard. Janet popped her titty out on national TV. You do some shit like that, and NOBODY invites you back. I mean, the only person coming back from something like that would have been Michael Jackson, and Michael, she is not (unless you want to get into my conspiracy theory saying that Michael and Janet Jackson really are the same person).
Madonna getting the invite is just Madonna getting the invite. All the wild shit she's done, she hasn't done anything to fuck with the FCC.

  

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42. "but you realise"
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Madonna is Madonna right?

I don't own any of her albums/heard any, and I know she's kinda like a big deal

Janet..... ehh.

Plus Janet just did the titty pop.... even more ehh...

What would you expect?

I really don't see the 2x standard either, why shouldn't Madonna do the Super Bowl?

b/c she kissed Brittany Spears? Shit like that happens on tv all the time but
Nudity
nah, America is very prude when it comes to nudity.

  

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50. "yup. this too."
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fuck you.

  

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44. "Madonna has managed her irrelevancy better than Janet"
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Madonna always had a better career than Janet's. Does race figure into it? Sure. But, as pathetic as her attempts to stay relevant have been, they've been more succesful than Janet's.

  

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47. "I Hate To Say It But Janet's Last 2 Albums Wasn't Pop Enough"
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To me Janet will always be that r&b artist who could crossover depending on the singles she releases but every one of her albums were basically r&b & soul albums with a pop feel to them but not pop enough to be in today's pop/rock/dance world such as Lady Gaga, Madonna, & Rihanna, even Black Eye Peas and Cee-lo crossedover so hard that many don't consider them rap acts anymore.

I'm kind of glad she maintain's her soulful roots but the sad part is that I couldn't get with the last three albums she released, it wasn't my thing but each had some good tunes on them; she's been walking that tight rope middle ground for mad years and that's been her flaw for people like you Mistermaxxx who wonders why she isn't taken seriously or treated on such a high level as Madonna but bad for me who wants Janet to be treated on the level of Mary J. Blige or Beyonce status.


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52. "she got the gay white fanbase on lock. that's why."
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she's telling women to save their money on $300 tix cuz they spent $150 on lady gaga tix last year.

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54. "nigga, janet pulled out her titty tryna be provactive...."
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why black folks keep tryna re-write history of that shit is beyond me. her ass was getting old and irrelevant and she went WAY over the top...like it was some accident with that dumb ass ninja star on her fake titty. fuck outta here.

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55. "Proof of the blah blah blah: Janet vs Madonna vs. M.I.A.?"
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That was interesting. I doubt the backlash will be as large as for Janet (I didn't even notice the middle finger when it happened) but who knows...

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