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"Sooooo..... Jessie Johnson re-joined the tour and...."
Thu Feb-02-12 04:58 PM by Artful Dodger

          

apparently the missing element has returned?

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Word ??????????????????????????
Feb 02nd 2012
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All I know is
Feb 02nd 2012
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Thanks for this. Did the setlist change at all ?
Feb 02nd 2012
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good news...any video yet?
Feb 02nd 2012
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Not yet but I'm hearing really good things. Jj is nuts.
Feb 02nd 2012
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Saw this on Twitter.
Feb 02nd 2012
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It's jesse. It's amazing. one man can make a difference - ROTC class l...
Feb 02nd 2012
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New song...
Feb 02nd 2012
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this song has been playing in my mind all day
Feb 02nd 2012
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Me too. I'm not sure folks don't like about it outside of the shitty jef...
Feb 02nd 2012
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      Just taste that's all. Opinion.
Feb 03rd 2012
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It was posted about 4 days ago - but thanks.
Feb 02nd 2012
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      Mark my words - JJ is the Questlove of this tour
Feb 02nd 2012
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           I know my man WC is gonna be happy to hear this
Feb 02nd 2012
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                Cool....looking forward to hearing/seeing that...
Feb 02nd 2012
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                     They say Jj is Killing it.
Feb 02nd 2012
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                          I hope that clip of "Ain't That Easy" isn't an indication of Jesse's rol...
Feb 02nd 2012
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                               that song does nothing for me anyway but no Jj gets his shine
Feb 02nd 2012
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                               RE: I hope that clip of "Ain't That Easy" isn't an indication of Jesse's...
Feb 02nd 2012
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                                    Yeah, I was looking at that like... 'that don't look like Jesse'
Feb 02nd 2012
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                                    I do now
Feb 03rd 2012
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                                    Yep that took place in Paris, the guitarist is Jef Lee Johnson
Feb 03rd 2012
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jesse AND pookie have returned
Feb 02nd 2012
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with Jesse in the fold..I'm hoping they keep I been watching you
Feb 02nd 2012
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they did keep it in there
Feb 02nd 2012
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      D'angelo should not have any kind of solo - seriously
Feb 03rd 2012
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           raphael saadiq played the guitar for she's always in my hair.
Feb 03rd 2012
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                No the credit is to D'angelo on the guitar for that record. Here:
Feb 03rd 2012
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Video
Feb 03rd 2012
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damn
Feb 03rd 2012
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at least that's confirmation that Jesse's 'detached soul' stage look
Feb 03rd 2012
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jesse johnson fills a lot of empty space
Feb 03rd 2012
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RE: jesse johnson fills a lot of empty space
Feb 03rd 2012
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lol...see this was exactly what I was talking about...
Feb 03rd 2012
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      D is now playing with greatness - Jessie Johnson.
Feb 03rd 2012
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           he needs to keep the collab going not just on the road too...
Feb 03rd 2012
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                Not just heard it - spent some time talking to the man - he's great.
Feb 03rd 2012
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                     you ain't gotta lie to kick it.
Feb 03rd 2012
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                          Nope your right about Dez's number - but my question stayed
Feb 03rd 2012
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brown sugar with jesse on the guitar
Feb 03rd 2012
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RE: Sooooo..... Jessie Johnson re-joined the tour and....
Feb 03rd 2012
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Wasn't D'angelo playing guitar during the Brown Sugar vids
Feb 03rd 2012
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      This is a bit much
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           I'm not here to argue technicality but my statement was in response
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                lol
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                Actually that's not true - I mean unless you cats simply don't listen
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                     for the record, I agree with your basic opinion. I just think the length...
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                          But have you been reading what I wrote? I support D yet all your
Feb 03rd 2012
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                               this here:
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                RE: I'm not here to argue technicality but my statement was in response
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                     I hear you but this is why I compared them
Feb 03rd 2012
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                          ok well in this case I feel you
Feb 03rd 2012
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                               nah its cool - w JJ in tow this show is gonna be hot man.
Feb 03rd 2012
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I'm liking D' and Jesse working together..beyond him playing
Feb 03rd 2012
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I'm happy Jess is back - would have preferred him with the Time
Feb 03rd 2012
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he should do both...he wouldn't be the only guy who plays
Feb 03rd 2012
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      Verbal Penetration was his best album by far
Feb 03rd 2012
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Jesse really was channeling D'Mumblo on his last record
Feb 03rd 2012
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talked to d last night
Feb 03rd 2012
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Man they rocking now! The last show was dope... Jj
Feb 03rd 2012
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RE: Man they rocking now! The last show was dope... Jj
Mar 09th 2012
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was it always known that JJ and Pookie were going to re-join?
Feb 03rd 2012
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Has the cow jumped over the moon????
Feb 03rd 2012
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catch 22
Feb 03rd 2012
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Give em time Jess been wit em one show. They gone get together.
Feb 03rd 2012
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catch 22
Feb 03rd 2012
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You loved it too, huh?
Feb 05th 2012
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D' and Jesse on Sh*t damn MFer (link)
Feb 05th 2012
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LOL, those two look like real BFF on stage
Feb 05th 2012
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1. "Word ?????????????????????????? "
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silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

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He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

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2. "All I know is"
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D' looked a lot more confident than the 1st show in Amsterdam. More interaction w/ the crowd, more energy and even more fun. Good show. Band seemed tighter as well. Glad Jesse joined the tour.

  

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3. "Thanks for this. Did the setlist change at all ?"
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>D' looked a lot more confident than the 1st show in
>Amsterdam. More interaction w/ the crowd, more energy and even
>more fun. Good show. Band seemed tighter as well. Glad Jesse
>joined the tour.


silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley

  

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4. "good news...any video yet?"
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5. "Not yet but I'm hearing really good things. Jj is nuts."
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6. "Saw this on Twitter."
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Excited to hear how it sounds.

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8. "It's jesse. It's amazing. one man can make a difference - ROTC class l..."
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7. "New song..."
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"Ain't That Easy"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pth3a88KA0o&feature=player_embedded#!

  

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9. "this song has been playing in my mind all day"
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i really like it. waiting for a crispy clear version though w/jesse playing the background.


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18. "Me too. I'm not sure folks don't like about it outside of the shitty jef..."
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Lol

  

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24. "Just taste that's all. Opinion. "
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Doesn't mean I can't enjoy the rest.

  

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10. "It was posted about 4 days ago - but thanks."
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11. "Mark my words - JJ is the Questlove of this tour"
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12. "I know my man WC is gonna be happy to hear this"
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where you at bro?

  

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13. "Cool....looking forward to hearing/seeing that..."
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14. "They say Jj is Killing it."
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15. "I hope that clip of "Ain't That Easy" isn't an indication of Jesse's rol..."
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He was totally wasted on that shit

If he's going to be reduced down to 20 second name check cameos I'd wish he had stayed with The Time.... well I wish he had stayed with the time any way lol
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16. "that song does nothing for me anyway but no Jj gets his shine"
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Thu Feb-02-12 07:52 PM by Artful Dodger

          

I still wish he'd stayed with the time. It's foul on everyone's part but hey... at least he's playing. D'angelo has always been good about sharing the stage. lol.

  

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17. "RE: I hope that clip of "Ain't That Easy" isn't an indication of Jesse's..."
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>He was totally wasted on that shit
>
>If he's going to be reduced down to 20 second name check
>cameos I'd wish he had stayed with The Time.... well I wish he
>had stayed with the time any way lol

You know that was jef leejohnson right?

  

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19. "Yeah, I was looking at that like... 'that don't look like Jesse'"
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35. "I do now"
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I was listening to the clip while working and flipped over when I heard the guitar solo and what I thought was d saying "Jesse" I was taken a little aback by the headscarf... I was thinking I've never seen Jesse wear one on stage before... guess I still haven't lol
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25. "Yep that took place in Paris, the guitarist is Jef Lee Johnson"
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(he was disapointing)

  

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20. "jesse AND pookie have returned"
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and i can say that with the both of them there
the testimony sounds amazing now

  

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21. "with Jesse in the fold..I'm hoping they keep I been watching you"
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in the set....

lots of cool things you could do with D' and Jesse on guitars with that song....could even flip it into a cold solo by Jesse at the end..


It's interesting because when I checked out Sade and John Legend opened for her....Legend did a version of I been watching you during his set...pretty cold too.... I got real geeked out when they started playing it and the wife is looking at me like "what is wrong with you" ...so I explain to her that it's a P-Funk song....anyways now D' is doing it during his live set...

someone honestly needs to like officially cover that song....

  

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22. "they did keep it in there"
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and D has a solo on it
Jesse had solos on other tracks

  

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23. "D'angelo should not have any kind of solo - seriously"
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Fri Feb-03-12 12:23 AM by Artful Dodger

          

let Jess do his job and save this tour - not that the tour has failed cause it hasn't (hi haters haha)

But the truth is D is simply not proficient enough for a solo.

Learning guitar in public is not a good look considering ppl are saying 12 years to learn guitar but that's hardly true.

She's Always In My Hair has him listed as the guitarist and
wasn't he playing guitar in one of the Brown Sugar videos?

So that would imply about 17 years - definitely not his strong suit.

Anyway, I love Jj - bad motherfucker so having him is a great move.

Oh and I don't think that's Jess, Jess has been back for like one show and I don't think a vid from like 4=5 days ago would be him but I could be wrong.

Stick the keys and vocals D. No diss my brother - just a concerned friend as always.

  

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26. "raphael saadiq played the guitar for she's always in my hair."
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47. "No the credit is to D'angelo on the guitar for that record. Here:"
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Fri Feb-03-12 12:40 PM by Artful Dodger

          

She's Always In My Hair
Backing Vocals, Bass Raphael Saadiq
Drums, Rap Ahmir '?uestlove' Thompson
Mastered By Herb Powers*
Mixed By, Recorded By Russell Elevado
Producer, Arranged By, Guitar D'Angelo
Written-By Prince

and here are the credits for Lady

Lady
Mixed By Russell Elevado
Piano Tim Christian
Recorded By Darrin Harris
Written-by, Co-producer, Arranged By , Bass, Guitar Raphael Saadiq
Written-by, Co-producer, Arranged By , Vocals, Arranged By , Guitar D'Angelo

  

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27. "Video"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B20jGqTmzgE

  

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33. "damn"
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>crisp


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64. "at least that's confirmation that Jesse's 'detached soul' stage look"
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is just that...

hey, when did they start doing this song like The Time? LOL

  

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28. "jesse johnson fills a lot of empty space"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uawbn334X8

this sounds more alive

  

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31. "RE: jesse johnson fills a lot of empty space"
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uawbn334X8
>
>this sounds more alive


U ain't bullshitting...Jessie is working that guitar on the low...His touch is still insane....Especially on "Brown Sugar"...The rhythm is sick...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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37. "lol...see this was exactly what I was talking about..."
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I've been watching you avails itself to a lot of space for Jesse to do his thing...let D' hold down the rhythm line..

cold cold...

  

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38. "D is now playing with greatness - Jessie Johnson."
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40. "he needs to keep the collab going not just on the road too..."
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the type of funk that Jesse brings on records now...and in the past is something D' could utilize..

not sure if you have heard Jesse's last album...but a song like I wanna get next to you... D' doing something like that would be playing to his strength vocally...

  

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41. "Not just heard it - spent some time talking to the man - he's great."
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Fri Feb-03-12 12:02 PM by Artful Dodger

          

I still to this day have an argument looming which Jess wouldn't answer

- that was you on the solo for 777-9311 wasn't it?

He laughs. Why? That was his phone number and prince wrote that song to fuck with him. They say he was pissed as hell in rehearsals.

I love Jessie Johnson.

I told him the guitar solo on Lady Cab Driver was the best Jessie Johnson impersonation I ever heard. He laughed lol

I dunno man, if D wants to grow as a guitarist - then he needs to put in the work. That said, I dunno about on record - in concert tho he should let the guitarists do their thing.

  

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62. "you ain't gotta lie to kick it."
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777-9311 was Dez's phone number.

Jesse spells his name "Jesse" not "Jessie"

you've made it a point to go on and on about exclusive this and thats
on this forum...but your penchant for glaring inaccuracies has always made your claims suspect.

now you are just poppin' wheelies on your imaginary big wheel.

this places moves slow enough with all of the agendas/lack of comprehensive reading/poor social skills/niggas just being niggardly in general.

lie about dolphin...nobody else is really privy to that huff ass schitt,but yeah....


please stop

s.blak
too late...he's lying to sound interesting again

keep: looking,searching,seeking,finding

  

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63. "Nope your right about Dez's number - but my question stayed "
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firm - I asked him quite a few questions -

cause I'd heard it was actually Jess' number - he didn't confirm one way or the other.

Man I wanted to pick that brother's brain.

No lie - and it wasn't a big deal (well probably only a big deal to The Time fans like myself) - they played the music festival in Baltimore (artscape) my girl lives there - my girl at the time was working the stage. WAsn't like they met with me man - they were talking to alot of folks before they hit the stage.

They were down to earth and cool - what's so big about that?

haha... smh okp.



  

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29. "brown sugar with jesse on the guitar"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B20jGqTmzgE

  

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30. "RE: Sooooo..... Jessie Johnson re-joined the tour and...."
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Good to hear......

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32. "Wasn't D'angelo playing guitar during the Brown Sugar vids"
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and the Left and Right Vid?

Botton line, he's a solid supporting guitarist, not a lead guitarist. He's no Zappa, Prince, or Hazel for that matter - so that should be let go. Go with your strengths to finish this tour out right.

You know he'll be on Fallon soon enough so the last thing you want is another Lil Wayne guitar solo.

The funny part was all the - "and not that clean shit, that Lauryn Hill shit" - well folks, Lauryn is a much much better guitarist in 2000 than D is right now.

However - let that be, on keys and vocals - D is killing.

He looks good.

He sounds good.

I think he's gonna be alright.

  

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34. "This is a bit much"
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>You know he'll be on Fallon soon enough so the last thing you
>want is another Lil Wayne guitar solo.
>
>The funny part was all the - "and not that clean shit, that
>Lauryn Hill shit" - well folks, Lauryn is a much much better
>guitarist in 2000 than D is right now.

I don't know why you're on this crusade. But simply saying he's not a good enough player to solo is enough. Unless I missed it, I've never seen lauryn play anything
more intricate than her unplugged stuff. D's playing outside of the solos was on par with that at least. Without the solos, he at least looks the part.

  

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36. "I'm not here to argue technicality but my statement was in response"
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to a statement about Lauryn.

Lauryn's playing is actually superior - not slight against D, cause his strong suits lay elsewhere. When he's on keys and vocals he's a beast.

So stop monitoring only the negative comments - I have been fair about his work and I'm in support of his tour.

Does not mean I'm not using common sense - it shouldn't be either you hate D'angelo or you think he's God.

There are people like me who are normal about this and have noted both his strengths and flaws. Those people actually enjoy music and are not here to push myths or destroy the man. Thanks.

"He looks the part" - what?

  

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44. "lol"
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Really though - we *barely* have enough to start drawing conclusions about D's abilities or non-abilities as a guitarist...

A few shows. A few youtube videos. These are dude's first shows in years, and the first shows where he's introducing himself as a guitarist...

Folks are acting like he sounds terrible - he doesn't. He doesn't sound great either, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for at least a while... especially because you can sort of see him trying to find his groove again (not just at the guitar, but in all of those clips... the *only* place he looks totally relaxed is at the piano for those medley clips)

Fans and critics alike need to stop trying to use these videos as a signed/sealed/delivered judgement on D's current talent. Let's let him settle in before we release the attack dogs...

-thebigfunk

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46. "Actually that's not true - I mean unless you cats simply don't listen"
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to guitarists stop selling wolf tickets. He's not comfortable or confident to solo - he doesn't have to be. I feel like it's everyone else saying shit that isn't true which is the problem.

It's like telling someone they can act (common) over and over despite reality - the person gets on stage crashes and burns and instead of being real - you wanna keep the fake shit alive.

Let's rejoice in what is real - his voice and his key playing.

The man has strong suit's why that isn't enough is just puzzling to me.

As a result of trying to 'sell' this image it was almost amatuer hour out there a few days ago and trust ppl in Europe were talking and things started dying down. Jj coming on board is exactly what he needed I'm happy cause this tour could be great.

Seriously.

  

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56. "for the record, I agree with your basic opinion. I just think the length..."
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with which you are expressing it are excessive. That's all. I don't think Quest did him any favors either with the expectations. but yeah.

  

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58. "But have you been reading what I wrote? I support D yet all your"
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pointing out are my criticisms.

I'm no stan. Quest is a man like I am so I speak my mind without holding my tongue or kissing anyone's ass.

It's not gonna be he's either the greatest thing ever - or he's wack.

There is a healthy middle section and that's where I reside.

I have praised him in every post as well as commented on certain weaknesses.

Also, I didn't do it as much as others so I'm a little interested in why I'm getting singled out? lol...

Take that shit to Maxx fam.

  

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60. "this here:"
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>There is a healthy middle section and that's where I reside.
>
>I have praised him in every post as well as commented on
>certain weaknesses.
>
>Also, I didn't do it as much as others so I'm a little
>interested in why I'm getting singled out? lol...

I addressed it in my other response. The extreme opinions from extreme posters scream attention seeker to the point where I don't even read them. On BOTH sides. Your posts caught my attention because just seemed like an extreme amount of attention placed on something when the rest of your opinions were balanced. Best way to say it I think is Maxx's criticism is akin to a face full of pimples that major skin treatment couldn't even fix. Yours is a basically clear face with a big ass pimple on it. I'm clearisil lol

But it's all good. As much back and forth as this has brought on, I'm not that pressed about it and I know you're not. Just want to hear good music.

  

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55. "RE: I'm not here to argue technicality but my statement was in response"
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>to a statement about Lauryn.



>Lauryn's playing is actually superior - not slight against D,
>cause his strong suits lay elsewhere. When he's on keys and
>vocals he's a beast.

Can you point me to some footage of her playing? That's not me not believing you. That's me genuinely asking because I'm unaware.

>So stop monitoring only the negative comments - I have been
>fair about his work and I'm in support of his tour.

Not monitoring. I see comparisons to Lil Wayne and think the shit is kinda over the top.

>Does not mean I'm not using common sense - it shouldn't be
>either you hate D'angelo or you think he's God.

I'm not sure where you feel this is how I think. I didn't think you hate D nor do I even remotely think he's God. I'm commenting on in what I feel is an overzealous amount of critique. Not a big deal.

>There are people like me who are normal about this and have
>noted both his strengths and flaws. Those people actually
>enjoy music and are not here to push myths or destroy the man.
> Thanks.

I get it. I've just seen you post the same thing several times. He's got a shitload of work to do as a guitar player and has no business doing solos. But the Lil Wayne reference? really? BTW the "looks the part" comment is in reference to the little wayne nonsense. I'm not giving him a pass. But that comparison is silly.

I would like to see Lauryn's playing though.

  

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57. "I hear you but this is why I compared them"
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having studio work on guitar is one thing

however taking the stage to play solo's that are being clowned on - that's lil wayne. I mean at the least someone in Wayne's camp should have said "fam you can't play". In d's case someone should have said "ayo, holding down the rhythm - that might work cause that's basic - but leave the solos alone".

Bottom line? He's not ready for solos. That's all. Considering all the D posts are now dead if anything I'm just trying to keep the spirit alive - but I'm going to be honest either way so.

Yes I have criticized his guitar playing - only cause they were pushing that as some amazing feature on Zappas level. Hardly.

However like i said - if they stay away from that which is nothing more than a gimmick - allow the man to be himself, stop trying to have one man satisfy all your parliament and Prince fantasies (not you, just in general) then shit should be cool.

however I have also praised a healthy amount of his show, his voice, and his keys playing.

It may be an issue of what one chooses to respond to - that's all.

  

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59. "ok well in this case I feel you"
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>having studio work on guitar is one thing
>
>however taking the stage to play solo's that are being clowned
>on - that's lil wayne. I mean at the least someone in Wayne's
>camp should have said "fam you can't play". In d's case
>someone should have said "ayo, holding down the rhythm - that
>might work cause that's basic - but leave the solos alone".



>Bottom line? He's not ready for solos. That's all.
>Considering all the D posts are now dead if anything I'm just
>trying to keep the spirit alive - but I'm going to be honest
>either way so.
>
>Yes I have criticized his guitar playing - only cause they
>were pushing that as some amazing feature on Zappas level.
>Hardly.

And rightly you should.

>However like i said - if they stay away from that which is
>nothing more than a gimmick - allow the man to be himself,
>stop trying to have one man satisfy all your parliament and
>Prince fantasies (not you, just in general) then shit should
>be cool.

None of this I disagree. For the record.

>however I have also praised a healthy amount of his show, his
>voice, and his keys playing.
>
>It may be an issue of what one chooses to respond to - that's
>all.

fair enough. I was responding to how you were presenting it. And honestly had it come from someone who was blatantly trolling it wouldn't have caught my attention. Everything about your critique I agreed with except the LH/LW stuff. I can accept the Lauryn stuff if shown proof. Based on what I've personally seen, I don't see either lighting the world on fire as guitar players. But the Lil wayne thing (which you've expanded on here) just seemed extra. I'm kinda mad at myself for even getting this deep into it because, while I'm happy dude is back and like the new stuff he's put together, I'm sounding like I'm excusing his play as a stan would.

  

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65. "nah its cool - w JJ in tow this show is gonna be hot man."
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everyone who has seen it has said the same thing.

The lights are officially on.

  

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39. "I'm liking D' and Jesse working together..beyond him playing"
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guitar for him..

I know I said on here before...D' has more vocal range than Jesse for sure..he's a better singer...but they have a very similar vocal delivery and phrasing.... Jesse being down with D' can be a real plus to D' overall....

  

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42. "I'm happy Jess is back - would have preferred him with the Time"
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tho speaking of which I finally sat down and listened to Condensate.

They put some work in on that record.

They should be D's opening act as well.

  

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43. "he should do both...he wouldn't be the only guy who plays"
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with more than 1 band..and it's not like the Original 7 was going to play constantly...

i'm hoping he's open to doing both....

that makes it better for him too..keeps his name in the mix..because honestly verbal penetration was a really solid release by him..

  

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45. "Verbal Penetration was his best album by far"
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if you ask me... and I think that was the plan all along really..
another Time record - they were touring when we met - another JJ record and some high profile show ups.

I think however he'd expected both his album and the Time's album to sell more - I kept saying to him 'man ppl listening and following it's just a different time period man ppl don't buy like they used to'.

Jj is so dope man I really hope ppl finally give him his credit.

He's not the best guitarist I have ever seen - but I would maintain he IS definitely on Hazel's level.

  

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66. "Jesse really was channeling D'Mumblo on his last record"
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hearing ?uest tie that together here cleared up a long-held suspicion that they were admirer's of each other's work

  

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48. "talked to d last night"
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he's excited as hell that jesse is there.

jef lee and ray angry deserve props for learning that ENTIRE SHOW in 48 hours.

especially since jef's health issues were a concern as well.

london will be a rocking on saturday.

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49. "Man they rocking now! The last show was dope... Jj "
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that's new electricity... now it's going down official.

No comment on JlJ. Yawnsters. 48hrs or not D's work is not Chopin. lol.

Let the guitarist do work.

Tell D to save the solos for the crib - not worth it.

With Jj and Pookie back - things are gonna get very serious.

  

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70. "RE: Man they rocking now! The last show was dope... Jj "
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Why do you have to be such a pessimist? Why can't you just let that shit go? Okay, we know, you don't like D's guitar playing or the interim players! Who cares? It's really not that serious.

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50. "was it always known that JJ and Pookie were going to re-join?"
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that was the best surprise for me last night

  

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61. "Has the cow jumped over the moon????"
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Eclectic Soul/Sunday, 2-4 PM est/89.3 WCSB.ORG

  

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51. "catch 22"
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i've always been a huge Jesse Johnson fan. however as this tour shows he wasn't cut out to be a solo act per se, but he had moments.

D'angelo is a solo act, however it feels like a chitlin circuit rivial and time warp central.

sorrry but 12 years later for this? and those new songs ain't much.

the band is alright but there is a lack of spark there and it just feels Nostelgia when it shouldn't really because D'angelo ain't old, but that sound and feel feels old.

you couldn't pay me to go see that show.

what next Sinbad and TOm Joyner Cabbage Patching and doing the Running man with D'angelo next? Man that is one tired predictable old feeling show IMO.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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54. "Give em time Jess been wit em one show. They gone get together."
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Not to mention the crowd is feeling it and that's what matters most.

We get it - you are not a fan. lol.

  

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53. "catch 22"
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i've always been a huge Jesse Johnson fan. however as this tour shows he wasn't cut out to be a solo act per se, but he had moments.

D'angelo is a solo act, however it feels like a chitlin circuit rivial and time warp central.

sorrry but 12 years later for this? and those new songs ain't much.

the band is alright but there is a lack of spark there and it just feels Nostelgia when it shouldn't really because D'angelo ain't old, but that sound and feel feels old.

you couldn't pay me to go see that show.

what next Sinbad and TOm Joyner Cabbage Patching and doing the Running man with D'angelo next? Man that is one tired predictable old feeling show IMO.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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69. "You loved it too, huh?"
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:)

  

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67. "D' and Jesse on Sh*t damn MFer (link)"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7O3C03qWz0

lots of potential with this band now..

D' has some licks on the guitar too..

nice...

  

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68. "LOL, those two look like real BFF on stage"
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Lovin' it.

  

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