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"Ray Parker Jr. appreciation post."


  

          

I got hipped to Ray Parker Jr. and Raydio with this jam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8In8mPfQqmM

As dope as he is, I think my favorite track that he did was this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqnmiKbxi04

He did have a tendency to rehash the same song over and over again, but he still had some jams. I look forward to his Unsung episode.

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That track is a total Funkadelic rip, though
Jan 30th 2012
1
It is...but it's still pretty good.
Jan 30th 2012
3
He actually jacked Temperton twice on that album
Jan 30th 2012
5
Jack & Jill, backup harmonies are ridiculous. Especially............
Jan 30th 2012
7
*cosby*
Jan 30th 2012
10
      what's that mean ? lol !!!
Jan 30th 2012
11
           http://cache2.artprintimages.com/LRG/37/3778/NW1IF00Z.jpg
Jan 30th 2012
14
                Ah, gotcha. lol
Jan 30th 2012
eh...you could go through a lot of albums from that era
Jan 31st 2012
26
Bustin' makes me feel good
Jan 30th 2012
2
two places at the same time was my shit
Jan 30th 2012
4
man... Raydio was the shit
Jan 30th 2012
6
Doc, you need to peep that "Woman Out Of Control" album. It was
Jan 30th 2012
8
      Oh yeah, wasn't that the 2nd album w/'Invasion' on it?
Jan 30th 2012
22
So, he's up next, after full force, right ? or is it Millie Jackson ?
Jan 30th 2012
9
I actually prefer the original version of Mr Telephone Man
Jan 30th 2012
12
Hey man, how you feeling ? And yes, this is very beige, as you...
Jan 30th 2012
13
Finally getting my voice back
Jan 30th 2012
16
      take your time, and get your "boss" voice back, playa.
Jan 30th 2012
17
           Thanks
Jan 30th 2012
18
                yeah, i clicked in my brain, what you meant after i posted. lol !!!
Jan 30th 2012
19
                     About to get on yahoo messenger in a minute.... you on?
Jan 30th 2012
20
                          Yeppers.
Jan 30th 2012
21
that record right there...
Feb 09th 2012
36
A few of my favorite Ray produced cuts
Jan 30th 2012
15
Great cuts...
Jan 30th 2012
24
of course I'd be remiss without making note of these here:
Jan 30th 2012
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Rock On is one of my favorite albums ever...
Jan 31st 2012
25
yes, sir
Jan 31st 2012
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lol..see man...when R&B got too smoothed out
Jan 31st 2012
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RE: yes, sir
Feb 10th 2012
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I'm right there with you WC
Jan 31st 2012
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      RE: I'm right there with you WC
Feb 10th 2012
51
I Don't Think That Man Should Sleep Alone....LOL
Jan 31st 2012
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I've accepted it over the years
Jan 31st 2012
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      The funny thing was that I felt it was a sort of a return to form
Feb 09th 2012
37
RE: Ray Parker Jr. appreciation post.
Jan 31st 2012
30
he was playin in the band...
Feb 14th 2012
80
one of the baddest Cats Ever
Jan 31st 2012
31
It's a shame most folks don't know this
Jan 31st 2012
34
      and to add on
Jan 31st 2012
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Did every/anybody know that he wrote You Make Me Feel Like Dancin?
Feb 09th 2012
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For real?
Feb 09th 2012
39
yeah, that's definitely very much a Ray change
Feb 09th 2012
40
      I see Ray played on that album
Feb 09th 2012
41
           yeah, Ray and Ollie were doing all kinds of session work
Feb 09th 2012
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                Only thing I could find was this
Feb 09th 2012
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                ha... oh yes, that is unmistakable! nm
Feb 09th 2012
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                RE: yeah, Ray and Ollie were doing all kinds of session work
Feb 10th 2012
52
holy crap...
Feb 09th 2012
45
had no idea he worked with Leo Sayer...
Feb 09th 2012
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yep and he said he got hustled out of the paper
Feb 09th 2012
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this is definitely on the 'Beige' side of things
Feb 09th 2012
46
one of the things I'm looking forward to from this show
Feb 10th 2012
49
That sounds dope...
Feb 10th 2012
53
Damn...
Feb 10th 2012
54
naw he wasn't Forrrest Gump of R&B because he didn't
Feb 11th 2012
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I don't know as much about Ray Parker Jr. as I should.
Feb 10th 2012
55
Thanks to YALL for puttin me on to Raydio
Feb 10th 2012
56
The lyrics to "Bad Boy" are some of the corniest I have ever heard
Feb 11th 2012
58
oh, Ray as a solo artist had some painful lyrics
Feb 11th 2012
59
Ray parker Jr wrote classics period
Feb 11th 2012
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You want to talk about corny lyrics...
Feb 14th 2012
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Now that the Unsung has premiered...
Feb 14th 2012
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it was a good profile though
Feb 14th 2012
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      Damn I thought I was the only one
Feb 14th 2012
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      Yeah
Feb 14th 2012
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           And the other line...
Feb 14th 2012
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                Yep, he had no problems being 'himself' on that record
Feb 14th 2012
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      well " i don't think Man should sleep alone" was a Nod to
Feb 14th 2012
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Unsung was pretty cool...
Feb 14th 2012
64
it was a good show and Ray being a Session cat easily
Feb 14th 2012
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The unsung special has made me go back and listen to Raydio's catalog
Feb 14th 2012
65
Ray did alot of things
Feb 14th 2012
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From The People Magazine Archive (swipe):
Feb 14th 2012
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What I find interesting........
Feb 14th 2012
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      This is a major point.
Feb 14th 2012
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           well Ray Himself said that the success of Rick James and
Feb 14th 2012
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                That's funny because listening to Ray's first solo album
Feb 14th 2012
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                     Appollonia first arrived on the scene back in 1979
Feb 14th 2012
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Much respect to Ray
Feb 14th 2012
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1. "That track is a total Funkadelic rip, though"
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and then he went and rehashed it again.

But Ray has some good stuff nonetheless.

My fave is probably "Jack & Jill" or "Two Places at the Same Time" (love the backup harmonies on those, especially on "Jack & Jill")

"Old Pro" is a great song too.

(You'll notice I prefer his midtempo stuff to his "jams")

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3. "It is...but it's still pretty good."
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You know, that may have been his best trait. I mean, he jacked Heatwave and MJ for this joint.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k34qpHI6uCQ

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5. "He actually jacked Temperton twice on that album"
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This one leans more towards "Off the Wall" but then there's another track that is more "Grooveline"

Sometimes it's actually funny how shameless he was with it.

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7. "Jack & Jill, backup harmonies are ridiculous. Especially............"
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>and then he went and rehashed it again.
>
>But Ray has some good stuff nonetheless.
>
>My fave is probably "Jack & Jill" or "Two Places at the Same
>Time" (love the backup harmonies on those, especially on "Jack
>& Jill")
>
>"Old Pro" is a great song too.
>
>(You'll notice I prefer his midtempo stuff to his "jams")

........the call and response,between the back up and Jerry Knight,singing lead.(Jack.........JAAAAAAck, wanting someone to feel,feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel....lol !!!). And the keyboard intro, some of the wettest keyboard licks ever.

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10. "*cosby*"
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11. "what's that mean ? lol !!!"
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14. "http://cache2.artprintimages.com/LRG/37/3778/NW1IF00Z.jpg"
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http://cache2.artprintimages.com/LRG/37/3778/NW1IF00Z.jpg

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"Ah, gotcha. lol "


  

          

>http://cache2.artprintimages.com/LRG/37/3778/NW1IF00Z.jpg


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26. "eh...you could go through a lot of albums from that era"
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and find a lot of biting..of a lot of artists..

I don't think Raydio was worse at it than others....

they did have an original sound...distinctive style..and very "balanced" albums...

Lots of people bit P-funk back then...from Kizz to Earth Wind and Fire and lots in between... The P was pretty monunental.....

  

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2. "Bustin' makes me feel good"
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Indeed

  

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4. "two places at the same time was my shit"
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6. "man... Raydio was the shit"
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now Ray past his first solo album was a mixed bag
but the Raydio albums can't be fronted on.

One of my favorite joints by Ray was "More Than One Way To Love A Woman". It feels like 1979... in a good way.

  

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8. "Doc, you need to peep that "Woman Out Of Control" album. It was"
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>now Ray past his first solo album was a mixed bag
>but the Raydio albums can't be fronted on.
>
>One of my favorite joints by Ray was "More Than One Way To
>Love A Woman". It feels like 1979... in a good way.

.......tight,bruh. If you need to peep it, holla at me. Shhhhhhhhhh,"they" could be reading this lol !!!

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22. "Oh yeah, wasn't that the 2nd album w/'Invasion' on it?"
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because I remember liking that one too. The opening track made me laugh out loud, the way it sounded.

I think he represented a certain aesthetic that hasn't quite been duplicated.

  

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9. "So, he's up next, after full force, right ? or is it Millie Jackson ?"
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"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

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12. "I actually prefer the original version of Mr Telephone Man"
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I want to say this was about a year earlier than the NE version

http://youtu.be/zU_r5JVagNI

It's kind of funny because you can really hear Ray's move to the beige side with these two versions.
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13. "Hey man, how you feeling ? And yes, this is very beige, as you..."
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>I want to say this was about a year earlier than the NE
>version
>
>http://youtu.be/zU_r5JVagNI
>
>It's kind of funny because you can really hear Ray's move to
>the beige side with these two versions.
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.......like to call it lol !!! I kinda dig it, though. I love music !!!! lol !!


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"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

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16. "Finally getting my voice back"
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Feel pretty good but I'm not much use in the office right now since nobody can hear me when I talk... I'm like that whispery voice dude in Awkward Black Girl lol. I went in this morning and picked up some files to work on from home. I should be back in full time starting tomorrow... haven't forgotten about your breaks either.
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17. "take your time, and get your "boss" voice back, playa."
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>Feel pretty good but I'm not much use in the office right now
>since nobody can hear me when I talk... I'm like that whispery
>voice dude in Awkward Black Girl lol. I went in this morning
>and picked up some files to work on from home. I should be
>back in full time starting tomorrow... haven't forgotten about
>your breaks either.
>_________________________________
>Reunion Radio Podcasts
>Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
>
>http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/


silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley

  

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18. "Thanks"
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And I think you missed what I was saying... I think NE's version is more "beige" than JR Tuckers. Check the guitar and bass on the OG.
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19. "yeah, i clicked in my brain, what you meant after i posted. lol !!!"
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>And I think you missed what I was saying... I think NE's
>version is more "beige" than JR Tuckers. Check the guitar and
>bass on the OG.
>_________________________________
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>Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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>http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/


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"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

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20. "About to get on yahoo messenger in a minute.... you on?"
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21. "Yeppers."
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>http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/


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"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley

  

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36. "that record right there..."
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is very much an example of everything I dig about Ray Parker Jr. as producer.

He might have only written a few of the songs on that record himself, but his "sound" is all over it. In particular, on songs like "If It's Love You're After"...

the synthesizers, the vocal arrangement, and what I love, the basslines/guitar parts.

It's kind of funny, Jr. Tucker was seen as the Jamaican Michael Jackson when he was a kid; Jr. sounded a whole lot like Mike on that record.

  

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15. "A few of my favorite Ray produced cuts"
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Brick - Sure Feels Good
http://youtu.be/9ADr1hchj5s

Brick - Wide Open
http://youtu.be/Es0kuRWOjJM

Cheryl Lynn - Shake It Up Tonight
http://youtu.be/TETznfG-O-s

Deniece Williams - I Found Love
http://youtu.be/R6W_7neaAig



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24. "Great cuts..."
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and that Deniece Williams record really hits on one of the reasons I really like his production. They always had these great guitar build ups.

  

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23. "of course I'd be remiss without making note of these here:"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6h7yDsn3HE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KiqgLl_ong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVp3GrNPh0w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSA_5O-FteU

partnership that should have yielded more music, IMO. Everytime the Super Shag Brothers hooked up for a track, the result was golden.

His guitar lines really made those joints.

also, as for Ray Parker Jr. produced tracks...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYi_4e0F8BE
Cheryl Lynn - In The Night (1981)

he kept the same instrumentation style (particularly synths) which was a dead-giveaway he was behind it on his production... it was like having Raydio do your song, LOL

  

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25. "Rock On is one of my favorite albums ever..."
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Raydio was a funky funky band with some talented brothers in the band..

that album in particular though...lots of energy..and to me some of their best songs..

More than one way to love a woman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fUIdrFKG2I

Hott stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3NKk7lGh6U

of course you can't change that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AYgpqkfT14

But they had lots of jams on multiple albums.

Ray as a solo artist kind of got locked into a softer sounds....but he had his jams too.... Really the Raydio years were solid musically for him...again another band/artist of the era of "BALANCED" albums....hitting you with funky dance type of tracks....ballads ...and mid-tempo joints.... The album formula of that era really highlighted the talents and versatility of artists like this...and kept them on a certain competative edge....

  

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27. "yes, sir"
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>More than one way to love a woman
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fUIdrFKG2I

this is a theme song of mine, no lie.

like if you saw a scene of me exiting the apartment building that's my hideout, and making the way to my car on the way to some night time run... this song would start playing.

  

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28. "lol..see man...when R&B got too smoothed out"
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we lost songs like More than one way to love a woman...When you had BANDS as the driving force in the music the love songs and mid-tempo type tracks had distinctive grooves to them....basslines....


this is another one of my joints from them..

going through school in love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZYKMhM_j5w

  

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50. "RE: yes, sir"
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>>More than one way to love a woman
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fUIdrFKG2I
>
>this is a theme song of mine, no lie.
>
>like if you saw a scene of me exiting the apartment building
>that's my hideout, and making the way to my car on the way to
>some night time run... this song would start playing.


That image is too surreal....lol

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32. "I'm right there with you WC"
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If you limited me to 50 albums in that 50 would be Raydio's two middle albums... Rock On & Two Places. With those two you pretty much get it all... funk like Hot Stuff & For Those Who Like to Groove, pop like You Can't Change That & Can't Keep from Cryin, killer slow jams like Two Places at the Same Time & Going Thru School and Love... it's all there without one misfire on either album. I'd put these back to back releases up against just about any other act from that era. These two rep the Ray I became a huge fan of.
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51. "RE: I'm right there with you WC"
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"Hot Stuff" was my shit as a kid...That shit reminds me of Chicago so hard...Ray may have went beige...But dude had the funk in him...

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29. "I Don't Think That Man Should Sleep Alone....LOL"
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I'm sorry...I LOVE this cut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoEUgwmD4AE

I know most of you hate it..

  

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33. "I've accepted it over the years"
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I was really pissed at the way Ray was watering down the sound I grew up with... but I understand now it was business. Still a little Arnell Carmichael could do that song wonders lol
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37. "The funny thing was that I felt it was a sort of a return to form"
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at least that he was doing R&B not meant to cross over by design again

  

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30. "RE: Ray Parker Jr. appreciation post."
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True G.

He's low key, he was in Uptown Saturday Night, and most folks didn't even peep.

  

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80. "he was playin in the band..."
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at the church picnic....

he was on Seasame Street playing with Stevie as well...

  

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31. "one of the baddest Cats Ever"
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this Cat could Pull a Rick James, P Funk and any other Funkateer you wanted in one hat

then beat you with some smooth Slow cuts on the Lionel B.Richie tip the next

then bring that Carlton banks/Scott baio Jams to the uppie and Buppies

and then rewind to his session work with Dizzy Glissppee,Marvin gaye, Stevie Wonder, Barry WHite amongest others.


Ray Parker Jr had a sound and a vibe that if he were White he would be in the Rock and Roll hall of fame like yesterday.

Bro Man wrote Money cuts, wrote jams, had cross over cuts and could play any and everything and yet stayed down to earth.


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34. "It's a shame most folks don't know this"
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to the vast majority he'll always be the light skinned dude that did Ghostbusters... in a lot of ways he only has himself to blame... but I'm sure his bank account makes it all go down a little easier.
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35. "and to add on"
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session work for a whose who back in the day on R&B and Pop

plus the Brother made investments that garnered a whole of loot. he invested wisely.

now what hurt him was that he was seen like Allen E Jones meets Puffy. part of it was being a session musician and you play the hits and repeat chord progressions, etc.. and formula and he did that so much into his own records that it worked against him.

however having said all of that he did everything else that every other successful Male R&B artist who happen to cross did, its just that the folks moved on from him, but can't nobody question the Brothers Skills.

Talent Check

Songwriter and writer of Money tracks check

Producer with his own sound check

i still remember seeing Ray in a cameo up on stage in "Uptown Saturday Night" the band that was playing.

loved his guitar parts when he played with Barry White.

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38. "Did every/anybody know that he wrote You Make Me Feel Like Dancin?"
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(made famous and credited as co-written by Leo Sayer)

I sure didn't, before I watched that UnSung preview on the TVOne site...

It's weird to think that he could have been ripped off so absolutely, but I can believe it because that song really does sound like him.

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39. "For real?"
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didn't know that but the bouncy bass-line does remind me a little of You Can't Change That.


and check this at the 1:30 mark http://youtu.be/rju9b_Uk8Sw
tell me that little segway isn't 100% raydio


Listening to it now I can hear Ray writing this.
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40. "yeah, that's definitely very much a Ray change"
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that transition from hard to smooth was a move he used a lot.

And you already been mentioned, this bassline is straight-up Raydio too.

Here's a video of him talking about it a little: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPF6Ffv7FpI&t=2m49s

I'm trynna post the UnSung clip but I can't seem to get the direct link. But if you click here http://tvone.tv/unsung-videos#

and underneath, select the video "Ray's Hard Lesson," you'll see it.

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41. "I see Ray played on that album"
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along with Ollie E. Brown who also did some work with Raydio.

Ray is credited with co-writing the song "Frankie Lee". I'd like to hear what that sounds like but can't find a clip of it any where.
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42. "yeah, Ray and Ollie were doing all kinds of session work"
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they started out playing music together as teenagers, along Nate Watts (Ray was playing flute back then, I think? and Nate was playing trumpet before they switched to guitar and bass, respectively)... And all of them eventually playing for Stevie, though not all at the same time, I don't think.

I don't know that "Frankie Lee" song either... and I know a lot of Leo Sayer lol. That Endless Flight LP that "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing" was on was one of the first albums I remember hearing (and memorizing) from beginning to end. I made my parents buy it after Leo's classic appearance on The Muppet Show!

Interesting that Ray would go work with Sayer again... maybe it was part of some deal because the teasers hint that while he didn't sue, that he ended up getting some kind of justice anyway.

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43. "Only thing I could find was this"
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http://www.kazaa.com/#!/Leo-Sayer/Leo-Sayer

you just get a short clip of the song... no doubt about this one being a Ray joint.
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44. "ha... oh yes, that is unmistakable! nm"
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52. "RE: yeah, Ray and Ollie were doing all kinds of session work"
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Leo Sayer....wow...I never thought I would see that name on the Lesson boards...

(*FYI...that was one of my first "favorite" songs as a kid*)

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45. "holy crap..."
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Ray got Jesse Johnson-ed for real, that song sounds just like something you'd hear on an early Raydio record; as OldPro said, that "bouncy bass" gives it away.

  

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47. "had no idea he worked with Leo Sayer..."
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found this too....certainly sounds like a raydio tune

http://www.rhapsody.com/#artist/leo-sayer/album/here/track/when-the-money-runs-out

and Leo Sayer's movements during his performances of You make me feel like dancing have to be the most awkward looking moves in music history....he looked like the stereotype of all the geeky little sidekick dudes in the disco movies....like dude that jumped off the bridge in saturday night fever...or the other lil dude in ...I think it was that one movie donna summer was in..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE-Okqna4sQ&

  

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48. "yep and he said he got hustled out of the paper"
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i heard about it from a different interview he did. he said he was young and didn't know about the papers to sign and he gave away complete control.

Ray was so busy as well back then playing on "Cheryl Lynn's "Got to be real" sessions amongest so many and all the work he did with barry White playing and co writing, etc..

but he got hustled on that.

looking forward to the show. Ray did what other session cats did with soundalike tracks,etc.. but that whole thing with Huey Lewis backfired and suddenly despite Ray having cross over appeal he got too black all at once.

but his session work and whatnot never changed and Ray got rich by great timing with investments, etc... Ray ain't hardly hurting and he also been doing gigs with the Crusaders. some folks don't know that Ray can play Jazz, etc. and is a Badd Cat.

Bro Man been doing session work since he was 14.

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46. "this is definitely on the 'Beige' side of things"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYEltGIXslo

but I liked this song way better than some of that painful crossover music he made in the mid '80s. It still sounds like it came out of Ray's core musical pallette.

  

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49. "one of the things I'm looking forward to from this show"
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would be to see more live footage of Raydio from the Houston 1978 show where they opened for Bootsy's Rubber Band.... They come out on stage with Bootsy during Bootsy's encore at the end ...all the energy they had..and the fact that it was Raydio in their prime has had me looking for their set from that show.... never found it though.

  

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53. "That sounds dope..."
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Dude has his hand in way more than I was aware of.

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54. "Damn..."
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Ray was the like Forrest Gump of R&B, right?

Dude was EVERYWHERE.....

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57. "naw he wasn't Forrrest Gump of R&B because he didn't"
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get the chances to Produce alot of the bigger acts or have his name in that mix. Maurice White is more of a Gump as would be Quincy Jones.

Greg Philliganis and Billy Preston are more Gumps than Ray Parker Jr, however lets say Ray had a very good run of the action though. Ray is slightly right behind Greg and Billy in the R&B Session Gump dudes, because those cats played with any and everybody.

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55. "I don't know as much about Ray Parker Jr. as I should."
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*walks away kicking rocks*


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56. "Thanks to YALL for puttin me on to Raydio"
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The import cd's was money well spent.

  

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58. "The lyrics to "Bad Boy" are some of the corniest I have ever heard"
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and Jamie makes me cringe....but he had a way with the groove

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59. "oh, Ray as a solo artist had some painful lyrics"
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He wasn't afraid to let his sense of humor shine through but some of the things he's sung I can't believe he got away with

The whole concept of a song like "Invasion" is comical

one of my favorite adlibs was something he said in "It's Our Own Affair", something like, "and if they don't like it... you know what they can do"

he was kind of like a proto-Kellz lyrically with some of the stuff

but he was old school so he would stop short of saying something really effed up

  

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60. "Ray parker Jr wrote classics period"
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so what if some of his songs were corny, his memorable material is still top tier stuff.

he was a victim of being black-balled and also the label stopped putting loot on him, however he was hanging with whomever was happening at said time except for MJ who was in his own league.

one can tolerate the odd ball lyrical content or song or songs if the good is there and RPJ had alot of good tracks on himself and for others he beat you in more than two ways as a songwriter, Proudcer and Musician.

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62. "You want to talk about corny lyrics..."
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I can't get through "A Woman Needs Love" without laughing.

One day you'll come home early from work/
Open up the door and get your feelings hurt/

Really Ray? The words are so silly, but they work. That song is a monster.

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61. "Now that the Unsung has premiered..."
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I was really surprised that they didn't talk about the subject matter in Jack and Jill. Not even touched on it. I've always thought that the song was about a homosexual relationship.

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63. "it was a good profile though"
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got a lot of footage of him just playing that guitar

though Ray didn't say it, I remember reading that he was hoping that around the time of the AFTER DARK album that he could get Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis to produce him, cause he was running out of ideas.

I kind of like that AFTER DARK album, and even the last one he recorded for many years, I LOVE YOU LIKE YOU ARE... he was doing more "Freddie Jackson"-type R&B, got off the weird crossover pop and it worked well with his voice, even though it didn't sell.

That song, "She Needs To Get Some" with Father MC is hilarious because he totally ripped off Ralph Tresvant's "Sensitivity" but flipped the lyrics into some hilarious "your girl ain't gettin broke off" stuff.

as for "Jack and Jill"... I dunno about Jack stepping out for another man; I just thought that song was about "Jack" stepping out on "Jill" cause she wasn't givin' him any play despite his best efforts to show her how much he cared

  

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66. "Damn I thought I was the only one"
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>I kind of like that AFTER DARK album, and even the last one he
>recorded for many years, I LOVE YOU LIKE YOU ARE... he was
>doing more "Freddie Jackson"-type R&B, got off the weird
>crossover pop and it worked well with his voice, even though
>it didn't sell.

I pulled that CD out a while back... Ray & NJ beats could have been a disaster but he played it more from the smooth end and it kinda worked. As you said it didn't sell much but I don't think he embarrassed himself either (he waited until 2006 to do that) That album was closer to his Raydio days than just about every other solo album he dropped. Life is so Strange is still one of my favorite Ray tracks.

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>I pulled that CD out a while back... Ray & NJ beats could have
>been a disaster but he played it more from the smooth end and
>it kinda worked. As you said it didn't sell much but I don't
>think he embarrassed himself either (he waited until 2006 to
>do that) That album was closer to his Raydio days than just
>about every other solo album he dropped. Life is so Strange is
>still one of my favorite Ray tracks.

I think Ray did good on that record, derivative tracks be damned
I guess his heart wasn't really in it, by his own account, but he had some good songs on there.

"Love Is So Strange" has this weird Prince-in-the-1999 era opening but goes into some "Quiet Storm" joint that sounded like a '90s take on a Raydio mid-tempo jam. The lyrics on the title track made me laugh... he was doing the Johnny Gill but from an angle you didn't really hear in R&B too often. Listening to Ray in that mode gives me the impression that he was spitting game to music sometimes.

"And you know how I feel about you wearing makeup... the same way I think about you wearing clothes"

LMFAO!!!

  

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73. "And the other line..."
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>"And you know how I feel about you wearing makeup... the same
>way I think about you wearing clothes"
>
>LMFAO!!!

You don't need to lose 5 pounds... cause I like it nice and round

I think he dropped like a dozen "mmmmmmmms" on that joint too lol

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75. "Yep, he had no problems being 'himself' on that record"
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>You don't need to lose 5 pounds... cause I like it nice and
>round
>
>I think he dropped like a dozen "mmmmmmmms" on that joint too
>lol

dude was pretty funny when he wanted to be

  

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70. "well " i don't think Man should sleep alone" was a Nod to "
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Jam and Lewis's "the Heat of the Heat" which they did for Patti Austin back in 85.

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64. "Unsung was pretty cool..."
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...dig that they spent a lot of time talking about Raydio and its changes throughout the years before they got into his solo career

...dig that they showed Arnell Carmichael and Ollie Brown numerous times in the profile

...dig that they ran down his solo career, and some of the production and songwriting work he's done

...dig that they showed a lot of him on his guitar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ULc4J4b34Q

I found this before Unsung aired on Youtube. This is funny to see the girls grooving to this song of all songs, but I've a new found appreciation for this song; I previously saw it as sort of a "prelude to Ghostbusters" in retrospect, now... what he's doing on the guitar on this song is great. Especially when it's just him and that guitar.

Dare I say it, it's a wonder he didn't do more ripoffs of you-know-who in the '80s, because he could have pulled it off the way he plays guitar. He is one of the GOAT rhythm guitarists, if not the greatest.

  

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71. "it was a good show and Ray being a Session cat easily"
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could have pulled a Allen E Jones and ran on Prince, RIck James, Michael Jackson, Lionel RIchie, etc....

he didn't get his due as being as versatile as he is and also the fact he stays in the Groove.

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65. "The unsung special has made me go back and listen to Raydio's catalog"
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I knew "For Those Who Like To Groove" but didn't know it was Ray's song or "Got To Be Real". I've always liked his work but I have a better appreciation for RPJ

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72. "Ray did alot of things "
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Shake it up the night" for Cheryl Lynn was tight

Sweat till you get wet for Brick was the stank as well.

Got to be real is why David Foster was in the clip because Foster co wrote and co Produced that cut.

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68. "From The People Magazine Archive (swipe):"
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I found this Googling the other day. I dig the one passage about Ray's early years of the L.A. lifestyle. Was cool to hear that Boz Scaggs gave him a gold record for playing on his album (I think he mentioned that in Unsung).

LINK: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20082783,00.html

August 02, 1982
Vol. 18
No. 5

After Years of Behind-the-Scenes Hits, Ray Parker Jr. Scores on His Own with the Other Woman

By Salley Rayl


At 28, Ray Parker Jr. has 19 years of performing under his belt. The Detroit-born guitarist-singer-songwriter-producer has had a hand in some 500 Top 40 singles and maybe 10,000 songs, working behind and alongside stars such as Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross, the Rolling Stones, Marvin Gaye, Boz Scaggs, Aretha Franklin and Tom Jones. Parker also has spun out four gold albums and 12 hit singles with his essentially one-man studio "group," Raydio.

But as prolific as he is, until four months ago Parker had never released a single under just his name. Then came his first solo album, The Other Woman. It went Top 20 within 10 weeks. Its title track hit the Top 5 on both the pop and R&B charts.

The Other Woman is about a man coping with two lovers. Most Parker songs are thematically based on man-woman relationships because "that's what everybody wants to hear," he explains. "But I try to write something that someone else wouldn't have the nerve to say." Last year his A Woman Needs Love became a hit for Raydio. Its feminist message made Parker an instant hit with liberated females—a kind of Alan Alda with soul. "The men called me a traitor," he says. "But there were girls hanging around my studio all day. They took the song personally and every woman was thinking, 'I know he takes good care of his women.' "

Parker's own relationships so far are still centered on his longtime girlfriend from Detroit, insurance agent Debbie Peek. By mutual agreement, she maintains her own apartment, even though Parker, in another reflection of his recent success, recently purchased his second home. His Beverly Hills mansion, once owned by actress Polly Bergen, is next to one owned by Frank Sinatra. And it's a long way removed from the tough Motor City neighborhood where as a boy, Parker recalls, "I was too tall, my head was too big, and I wore big white socks. I was just not hap'nin' as a kid." He had to pay off bullies and played clarinet in the school band to avoid getting knocked around in the alternative to music, gym class. At 7, he and two others formed a combo called the Stingrays, and five years later Parker switched from clarinet to guitar. By 14, he was in a band which owned a gun to collect its fees from slow-paying club owners. At 15, he did his first Motown session work, behind Marvin Gaye, and he soon bought a new Lincoln Continental.

He finished his first year of college at the Lawrence Institute of Technology near Detroit but dropped out to join Stevie Wonder's band on the Rolling Stones' 1972 comeback tour, making $600 a week.

A year later Parker headed for L.A., which he learned to love watching TV's The Beverly Hillbillies and Leave It to Beaver. "Whenever I saw those shows," he remembers, "it looked as if everybody was in sunshine."

He eventually learned that L.A. wasn't all TV sweetness and light when a neighbor in an elevator in his posh condo complex suggested he didn't know where the service entrance was. He was soon able to rebuke her indirectly when Arista Records bought a Sunset Boulevard billboard to advertise Raydio's Rock On LP.

But then, Parker has always been nothing if not confident about his talents. "I looked at Stevie and he was playing all the instruments on his records and writing songs, and I felt that I could do it too," Parker says. He had been in Los Angeles three months when he finagled an introduction to singer-songwriter Barry White, who later recorded Parker's Always Thinkin' of You. Parker soon began picking up jobs as a studio musician, earning double scale doing session work for people ranging from Helen Reddy to Dizzy Gillespie. He became so popular, he tried turning down gigs unless performers would agree to use songs he'd written. It worked.

Chaka Khan and Rufus did his first hit, You've Got the Love, in 1974. The rewards since have been vast (Parker now grosses millions of dollars annually), but he's never completely satisfied. "Of the hundreds of gold records I've written, produced or played on, only Boz Scaggs gave me one when they were given out. Lawyers, deejays and people in the company get them, but not the musicians."

A 1977 meeting with Clive Davis of Arista netted Parker a recording contract and an upfront $100,000 check he used to bolster a bank account depleted by investments in his own studio—where he cut the first Raydio album in that same year. Parker has essentially been the group, dubbing vocal tracks and five instruments on some tunes, with studio musicians filling in. Then he got his first full solo shot this year.

"I've never been one of those star-type people," he says. "Nothing like that ever really concerned me—except getting paid." But his admitted ego has hardly submerged. His next career step, he hopes, will be films. As an actor? Writer? Director? "All of it," he says, smiling.


  

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74. "What I find interesting........"
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is the fact he didn't come out as a solo act even though he was pretty much a self contained artist. that really shows you just how different things were and how much credibility came with being part of a band.
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76. "This is a major point."
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>that really shows you
>just how different things were and how much credibility came
>with being part of a band.

I think Off the Wall played a major part in changing that... and then Prince REALLY changed it.

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77. "well Ray Himself said that the success of Rick James and "
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Lionel Richie were part of his formula.

Ray parker Jr use to say he was in awe of what Rick James was able to do and get away with, matter of fact Marvin gaye said the same exact thing about Rick James.

everybody saw Michael jackson blowing up and Prince was still a few years away, but at that time Rick James and Lionel Richie had a formula and it worked and they came in different directions.

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78. "That's funny because listening to Ray's first solo album"
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I kind of felt like Ray was trying to meld Lionel's "rapping" style of singing with some Rick James-esque sleaze... some songs I think he was going for that "punk funk" or rather, "fearless stud" sort of thing ala Rick, others I felt he was really channelling Lionel's pulpit soul ("Let Me Go" is the closest thing to Lionel Richie I've heard from another artist).

>Ray parker Jr use to say he was in awe of what Rick James was
>able to do and get away with, matter of fact Marvin gaye said
>the same exact thing about Rick James.

because some of the joints on that first album?
shit, Ray took it further than Rick did, without cursing. (He never did on his records, to his credit... he was very old school Detroit about that)

The original video for "The Other Woman" (I've mentioned in another thread, my newfound appreciation for that song) was as bold as it gets... and then if you think about Prince, the one that got "approved" had Apollonia in it, back when she was still Patty! LOL.

  

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79. "Appollonia first arrived on the scene back in 1979"
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she did a episode briefly on the show "Chips" which I use to watch.

Ray said he was feeling Rick and Lionel and it showed.

Ray wanted to keep it funky and yet accessible so those are two of the best road maps at having a blueprint.

Ray did walk a fine line and he was accesible and yet had a bluesman vibe with it. a fine line he walked.

good commentary Doc. Peace

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69. "Much respect to Ray"
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That dude held it down for a minute especially in the late seventies to the mid-eighties.

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