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david bammer
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"just re-visted sa-ra's nuclear evolution 2cd from 2009..."
Mon Jan-02-12 11:59 PM by david bammer

  

          

and this shit SUCKS.
absolutely NOTHING on this record ever catches and works.
it's just a mish-mash of awful execution and mediocre ideas.

i know in a previous self-indulgent post i made that only holds any importance to me i praised them for being ahead of their time
and argued the change they theoretically could made to black music was suppressed/ignored by the mainstream music industry.
and i mean in certain ways that is true.
maybe if these guys (producing other songwriters material for actual singers) had been given a mainstream chance it might have sparked something as far as influence...
especially around 2004/2005.
but these guys were simply not songwriters/singers/musicians.
and i think that was probably their downfall.
so, god bless them, for you know...
making an entire double album with such little chops.
but come on...
the sum of all their attributes = they're good drum-programmers and have some unique details.

this has me worried to re-check waajeed's abundance which was another record i remember not hanging on to for very long i was going to revisit...

  

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and i liked that single TAZ had 2-4 years ago...
Jan 02nd 2012
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that shafiq solo joint is awesome tho
Jan 03rd 2012
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i agree. sa ra is much more hype then anything. but i dig their style
Jan 03rd 2012
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"Love Czars" is my shit though...
Jan 03rd 2012
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You are on point with this
Jan 03rd 2012
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I Love That Album,,,,,
Jan 03rd 2012
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^^^
Jan 03rd 2012
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Yep
Jan 03rd 2012
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co-sign
Jan 03rd 2012
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Yaknow? If only for Gemini's Rising and The Bone Song.
Jan 04th 2012
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anybody think we're gonna get a taz solo lp this year?
Jan 03rd 2012
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dope album
Jan 03rd 2012
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I Wanted To Cop This Album But Never Did
Jan 04th 2012
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You could have just stopped here
Jan 04th 2012
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according to Badu, Shafiq is a pretty great songwriter.
Jan 04th 2012
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      according to me, as a learned listener, he's not.
Jan 04th 2012
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           ok, noted. prob won't be going with your opinion tho. n/m
Jan 04th 2012
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nah, its ill. n/m
Jan 04th 2012
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^
Jan 04th 2012
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that shit is beyond ill
Jan 04th 2012
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for real, lol??
Jan 04th 2012
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RE: for real, lol??
Jan 04th 2012
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word. shafiq is a beast.
Jan 04th 2012
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fly shit
Jan 04th 2012
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You buggin'
Feb 06th 2012
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Not True!
Feb 06th 2012
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david bammer
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1. "and i liked that single TAZ had 2-4 years ago..."
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that $outh$ide shit.
i liked that record.
but this record? yikes.

  

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Madvillain 626
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2. "that shafiq solo joint is awesome tho"
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i hope he drops something new this year.

but yeah, sa-ra had too many ideas without any decent execution. For all their talk, they had the same problem as most pop artists nowadays, too much focus on the image without good songs to back it up.

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judono
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3. "i agree. sa ra is much more hype then anything. but i dig their style"
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taz got some cool style. shafiq has some dope ass production when he's on... om'mas prob got some shit too in the vaults--- but some of their records are unenjoyable. and i bought them all

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4. ""Love Czars" is my shit though..."
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Tue Jan-03-12 03:39 AM by soulsupreme

  

          

I will say the double CD was a bit overkill but it had a few joints I still knock;

"Melodee N'mynor"
"He Say She Say"
"Bitch Baby"
"Can I Get U Hi"
"My Star"
"I Swear"

Love Czars II (Ft. Jay Electronica & Ta'Raach) on remix was dope too

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Former_Day_Saint
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5. "You are on point with this"
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Shafiq is really the only one who I remain interested in. Pretty safe to say the dude is the most talented of the bunch.

Southside blood cousin was a banger no doubt but if you heard that new joint he release a month ago or so you'd be convinced dude is off his rocker. Seriously that shit was bad...

Anyway, I bought that cd off OKP hype and at the time I was genuinely a fan but after less that a week in the deck I had a terrible case of buyers remorse. I remember trying to put an friend onto them he was like "toooooo wierd" yup...basically.

  

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Harlepolis
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6. "I Love That Album,,,,,"
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Spacefruit: http://youtu.be/uq9d4AS5pns
Just Like A Baby: http://youtu.be/wnL4z7NSSGA

  

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7. "^^^"
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9. "Yep"
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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10. "co-sign"
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Ashley Ayers
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19. "Yaknow? If only for Gemini's Rising and The Bone Song."
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8. "anybody think we're gonna get a taz solo lp this year?"
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wheels
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11. "dope album"
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Tue Jan-03-12 03:52 PM by wheels

          

there was some filler on there but i dug 'nuclear evolution'. its all over the place like 'hollywood recordings', but lots of dope material. 'spacefruit', 'melodee n'mynor', 'love czars', 'the bone song', 'can i get you hi' are highlights for me. i do hope they put together a more cohesive project in the future.

but shafiq's solo album is one of my favorite albums of all-time. thundercat's bass work is all over the album. i don't think this album gets as much love as it deserves. check these out:

- shafiq husayn feat. bilal - 'cheeba' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iElw4kHCs1I)
- shafiq husayn feat. fatima - 'lil girl' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o2yzLtq3_w&feature=related)
- shafiq husayn - 'u.n. plan' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHxXJg85tYQ&feature=relmfu)

i'm hoping om'mas solo album 'city pulse' comes out soon. what i've heard from it sounds fresh.

- om'mas keith feat. rozzi daime & shafiq - 'sugar lady' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44TWwuVnwuI)

  

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12. "I Wanted To Cop This Album But Never Did"
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Wed Jan-04-12 09:17 AM by Dj Joey Joe

  

          

I remember when this came out, and was kind of anticipating it's release, so a week or so after it came out I decided to listen to snippets of the album.

I checked it out and nothing grabbed me at all, not sure if it was just me or the music wasn't on par with what they did on their last album or what; but it made me pass on their album at the time; but I knew if I just went and bought the album that I would listen to it all the way thru, every track, no skipping, that I probably would end up liking it but it was a few other albums I ended up purchasing instead.

Anyway, I decided if I see a used copy of it I would snatch that up, so about 6 to 9 months go by, I got hit up on some hard times and had to go sell some cds and of course while at the record store I see a used copy but I needed money, I didn't go there to spend money I didn't have.

I still haven't seen another used copy of it since; and I refuse to download it when I really should just do that after all this time.


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13. "You could have just stopped here"
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>but these guys were simply not songwriters
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15. "according to Badu, Shafiq is a pretty great songwriter. "
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20. "according to me, as a learned listener, he's not."
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22. "ok, noted. prob won't be going with your opinion tho. n/m"
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14. "nah, its ill. n/m"
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17. "^"
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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18. "that shit is beyond ill"
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Jordan!

  

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16. "for real, lol??"
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Wed Jan-04-12 01:45 PM by mathmagic

          

i thought you were gonna say this was a fantastic album. cuz it is. every song. I was all prepared to discuss the merits of Nuclear evolution, but since this is a hate post, I'll be out.

p.s. Shafiq Husayn is the best producer in music (imo)

Jordan!

  

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21. "RE: for real, lol??"
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>p.s. Shafiq Husayn is the best producer in music (imo)

oh ok. thanks.

  

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23. "word. shafiq is a beast."
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can't wait for his next album.

  

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24. "fly shit"
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Wed Jan-04-12 10:22 PM by Crash Bandacoot

          

a couple of tracks i could do without but, overall....it still gets played.


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25. "You buggin'"
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Nuclear Evolution was the shit. Each track was distinctly different yet the album had a nice cohesive flow. How could anyone front on "Love Czars"?

I also agree w/ everyone about Shafiq En Afreeka. One of the best albums of the last 10 years. He's a genius.

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26. "Not True!"
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That album is great. I completely disagree with your views on the lp. It was one of 2009 better releases.

There are too many nice songs to highlight. Probably there was one song I didnt feel otherwise the 'Creative Partners' were in full in effect on the Nuclear Evolution.

Its not accurate to reduce them to drum programmers when the album covers so much ground and range. It also reduces the role played by Thundercat on the album with his bass playing.

  

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