david bammer Member since Jun 20th 2010 4467 posts
Mon Jan-02-12 11:55 PM
"just re-visted sa-ra's nuclear evolution 2cd from 2009..." Mon Jan-02-12 11:59 PM by david bammer
and this shit SUCKS. absolutely NOTHING on this record ever catches and works. it's just a mish-mash of awful execution and mediocre ideas.
i know in a previous self-indulgent post i made that only holds any importance to me i praised them for being ahead of their time and argued the change they theoretically could made to black music was suppressed/ignored by the mainstream music industry. and i mean in certain ways that is true. maybe if these guys (producing other songwriters material for actual singers) had been given a mainstream chance it might have sparked something as far as influence... especially around 2004/2005. but these guys were simply not songwriters/singers/musicians. and i think that was probably their downfall. so, god bless them, for you know... making an entire double album with such little chops. but come on... the sum of all their attributes = they're good drum-programmers and have some unique details.
this has me worried to re-check waajeed's abundance which was another record i remember not hanging on to for very long i was going to revisit...
2. "that shafiq solo joint is awesome tho" In response to Reply # 0
i hope he drops something new this year.
but yeah, sa-ra had too many ideas without any decent execution. For all their talk, they had the same problem as most pop artists nowadays, too much focus on the image without good songs to back it up.
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3. "i agree. sa ra is much more hype then anything. but i dig their style" In response to Reply # 0
taz got some cool style. shafiq has some dope ass production when he's on... om'mas prob got some shit too in the vaults--- but some of their records are unenjoyable. and i bought them all
5. "You are on point with this" In response to Reply # 0
Shafiq is really the only one who I remain interested in. Pretty safe to say the dude is the most talented of the bunch.
Southside blood cousin was a banger no doubt but if you heard that new joint he release a month ago or so you'd be convinced dude is off his rocker. Seriously that shit was bad...
Anyway, I bought that cd off OKP hype and at the time I was genuinely a fan but after less that a week in the deck I had a terrible case of buyers remorse. I remember trying to put an friend onto them he was like "toooooo wierd" yup...basically.
11. "dope album" In response to Reply # 0 Tue Jan-03-12 03:52 PM by wheels
there was some filler on there but i dug 'nuclear evolution'. its all over the place like 'hollywood recordings', but lots of dope material. 'spacefruit', 'melodee n'mynor', 'love czars', 'the bone song', 'can i get you hi' are highlights for me. i do hope they put together a more cohesive project in the future.
but shafiq's solo album is one of my favorite albums of all-time. thundercat's bass work is all over the album. i don't think this album gets as much love as it deserves. check these out:
Dj Joey Joe Member since Sep 01st 2007 13770 posts
Wed Jan-04-12 09:15 AM
12. "I Wanted To Cop This Album But Never Did" In response to Reply # 0 Wed Jan-04-12 09:17 AM by Dj Joey Joe
I remember when this came out, and was kind of anticipating it's release, so a week or so after it came out I decided to listen to snippets of the album.
I checked it out and nothing grabbed me at all, not sure if it was just me or the music wasn't on par with what they did on their last album or what; but it made me pass on their album at the time; but I knew if I just went and bought the album that I would listen to it all the way thru, every track, no skipping, that I probably would end up liking it but it was a few other albums I ended up purchasing instead.
Anyway, I decided if I see a used copy of it I would snatch that up, so about 6 to 9 months go by, I got hit up on some hard times and had to go sell some cds and of course while at the record store I see a used copy but I needed money, I didn't go there to spend money I didn't have.
I still haven't seen another used copy of it since; and I refuse to download it when I really should just do that after all this time.
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13. "You could have just stopped here" In response to Reply # 0
>but these guys were simply not songwriters _________________________________ Reunion Radio Podcasts Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
16. "for real, lol??" In response to Reply # 0 Wed Jan-04-12 01:45 PM by mathmagic
i thought you were gonna say this was a fantastic album. cuz it is. every song. I was all prepared to discuss the merits of Nuclear evolution, but since this is a hate post, I'll be out.
p.s. Shafiq Husayn is the best producer in music (imo)
That album is great. I completely disagree with your views on the lp. It was one of 2009 better releases.
There are too many nice songs to highlight. Probably there was one song I didnt feel otherwise the 'Creative Partners' were in full in effect on the Nuclear Evolution.
Its not accurate to reduce them to drum programmers when the album covers so much ground and range. It also reduces the role played by Thundercat on the album with his bass playing.