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edutainment
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"KRS talks history and beefs"


          

I've watched a lot of KRS interviews and I just had to spread this one because he is in rare form here. I always enjoy what he has to say because he always has a unique perspective. In this clip he's super animated and detailed about his history coming up and he delves into his battles with Ice Cube, Poor Righteous Teachers, PM Dawn, X Clan etc. It's super long but the first hour or so is definitely worth it if you're interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mwnaqomFrs

Patrick

  

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RE: KRS talks history and beefs
Dec 30th 2011
1
Rapping In The Left Headphone Is Old News
Dec 31st 2011
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      RE: Rapping In The Left Headphone Is Old News
Dec 31st 2011
5
      THIS.
Dec 31st 2011
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      LOL I had to do that NYE
Jan 05th 2012
47
will watch this eventually
Dec 31st 2011
2
Thanks for this fam. Straight up.
Dec 31st 2011
4
Whole interview was dope.
Jan 01st 2012
18
I would love to hear Russell's side of this
Dec 31st 2011
6
I get the feeling Russell couldn't tell Chuck D shit back then
Jan 01st 2012
17
RE: I get the feeling Russell couldn't tell Chuck D shit back then
Jan 01st 2012
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      RE: I get the feeling Russell couldn't tell Chuck D shit back then
Jan 01st 2012
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           RE: I get the feeling Russell couldn't tell Chuck D shit back then
Jan 01st 2012
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                Ra was always more subliminal
Jan 02nd 2012
24
I think Chuck got around it because he wasn't actually present
Jan 04th 2012
36
this is wild candid... I dig this
Dec 31st 2011
8
This was incredible. Thank you.
Dec 31st 2011
9
thx
Dec 31st 2011
10
He's Really A Charismatic Speaker,,,,,
Dec 31st 2011
11
good interview. his excuse for the PM Dawn is suspect. He didn't come at
Dec 31st 2011
12
yeah his whole stance on violence and his exemption is disturbed
Jan 03rd 2012
29
RE: good interview. his excuse for the PM Dawn is suspect. He didn't com...
Jan 04th 2012
30
RE: good interview. his excuse for the PM Dawn is suspect. He didn't com...
Jan 04th 2012
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      Yeah, him picking on weak cats is definitely revisionist history
Jan 04th 2012
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           RE: Yeah, him picking on weak cats is definitely revisionist history
Jan 04th 2012
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                I've been trying to find the Just-Ice interview where this info came fro...
Jan 06th 2012
51
it wasnt suspect he broke it down perfectly
Jan 04th 2012
42
Dope. Thanks.
Dec 31st 2011
13
This is great
Dec 31st 2011
14
yeah, that was cool to hear him talk about that album
Jan 01st 2012
19
My favorite part too.
Jan 01st 2012
20
lol @ FUCK EVERYBODY ELSE. . .learned that right here
Jan 04th 2012
32
this was entertaining. i watched the whole joint
Jan 01st 2012
15
Fresh!
Jan 01st 2012
16
Is that Narduwar?
Jan 02nd 2012
25
sounds like him, and they're in Canada somewhere too
Jan 03rd 2012
27
No, it's some unintentionally dorky white dude
Jan 03rd 2012
28
RE: KRS talks history and beefs
Jan 03rd 2012
26
thx for this - krs that dude
Jan 04th 2012
31
Incredible, thanks for sharing n/m
Jan 04th 2012
33
didn't like the apology section
Jan 04th 2012
34
KRS basically interviews himself.
Jan 04th 2012
37
Anyone got an interview where he talks about becoming Christian?
Jan 04th 2012
38
I love how he put that dirty show promoter on full blast.
Jan 04th 2012
39
Not called The Blastmaster for Nathan. N/ m.
Jan 05th 2012
43
Will now spend the rest of the week listening to KRS
Jan 05th 2012
44
damn yo, many thanks
Jan 05th 2012
45
much appreciation
Jan 05th 2012
46
This is the one dude out there who bleeds hiphop
Jan 06th 2012
48
watched the entire interview...
Jan 06th 2012
49
Thanks
Jan 06th 2012
50

edutainment
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1. "RE: KRS talks history and beefs"
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Forgot to point out a few parts that are worthy of discussion:

- he said Russell Simmons banned Def Jam artists from participating in Self Destruction and HEAL, although LL and RUN DMC both (partly) defied him

- KRS claims that he is responsible for the taglines of the Source ("Music, culture and politics") and XXL ("Hip Hop on a Higher Level")

- he says that after Sex and Violence flopped (because of the backlash against the PM Dawn incident) Jive said they weren't getting a return on their investment with him, so he said stop investing in me...and they did. KRS implies that this also meant they stopped investing in conscious music as a whole, fascinating to hear as it was 92' when the conscious style was (deliberately or not) pushed to the background never to reemerge with the same power again

- he explains that him rapping into the headphones on the cover of Return of the Boom Bap wasn't simply artistic, supposedly back in the day they would plug that into the mic and it would work, who knew?
Fascinating stuff.

Patrick

  

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3. "Rapping In The Left Headphone Is Old News"
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>supposedly back in the day they would plug that
>into the mic and it would work, who knew?

Plenty of people been doing that for mad mad years, nothing new.



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5. "RE: Rapping In The Left Headphone Is Old News"
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>Plenty of people been doing that for mad mad years, nothing
>new.
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only to people that was actually DOING it, not the consumers or rap fans.

  

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7. "THIS."
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>>Plenty of people been doing that for mad mad years, nothing
>>new.
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>only to people that was actually DOING it, not the consumers
>or rap fans.
>



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47. "LOL I had to do that NYE"
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2. "will watch this eventually "
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put it in favorites
sorry, nothing else to add

Knicks yo
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4. "Thanks for this fam. Straight up."
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@ 22 minutes now... this is great.

  

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18. "Whole interview was dope."
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from the discussion of the "beef" to Cornell West to his attitude toward the industry to his spiritual journey.

Good shit.

  

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6. "I would love to hear Russell's side of this"
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I mean Public Enemy was a part of Self Destruction so I wonder why Russell would not allow LL to participate in the HEAL video.

  

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17. "I get the feeling Russell couldn't tell Chuck D shit back then"
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Let's not forget, LL back then was a young dude (early 20's), where as Chuck was grown. I'm sure he knew very well that Russell wasn't going to drop him for participating, and he was right.

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21. "RE: I get the feeling Russell couldn't tell Chuck D shit back then"
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>Let's not forget, LL back then was a young dude (early 20's),
>where as Chuck was grown. I'm sure he knew very well that
>Russell wasn't going to drop him for participating, and he was
>right.

True but even in the Self Destruction video Slick Rick is in it. Remember back then there were only about 6 artists who were even on Def Jam and I also wonder why he didn't expand that to include Rush Affiliated artists. I was always curious why someone like Rakim wasn't involved in the Self Destruction song.

  

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22. "RE: I get the feeling Russell couldn't tell Chuck D shit back then"
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>I was always curious why someone like Rakim wasn't involved in the Self >Destruction song.

Rakim addresses that very issue at 4:00 here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoV-2cp60bU

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23. "RE: I get the feeling Russell couldn't tell Chuck D shit back then"
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After posting this I was thinking about what Rakim said. He says that he brought the struggle back to hip hop lyrics as opposed to KRS' first album Criminal Minded and PE's first Yo Bumrush. However, thinking back about Paid In Full there's not really any conscious songs on there, it's mainly songs about emceeing. He has a more serious tone obviously than others at the time and not to take anything away from Ra but I'd argue that Criminal Minded with P is Free etc. had more to do with the struggle than anything on Paid In Full. Even Follow the Leader doesn't have much conscious stuff especially compared to By All Means which came out first. Ra didn't really get on that style until Let the Rhythm Hit Em with In The Ghetto etc. So him being upset about not being included in 1988 on Self Destruction is possibly a little iffy using his argument, as a top MC of the time though there is no reason he shouldn't have been on there.

Patrick

  

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24. "Ra was always more subliminal"
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He wasn't as overtly political as KRS, PRT or PE but he was one of the first prominent MC's to put 5% lyrics and imagery out there so I think in his mind he was at the forefront of the "conscious" movement and should have been one of the first calls made for the Self Destruction movement.

  

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36. "I think Chuck got around it because he wasn't actually present"
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at the video shoot... they shot they're part at a different location and edited it into the video..

I would like to hear Russ explain why he did that though..

I respect Russ, but people get the misconception that he got to where he got being on the "cutting edge" yet time after time there are examples of him playing the super safe route and having others.... (often 2 White dudes..lol) convince him that they should do something that is outside the box...



  

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8. "this is wild candid... I dig this"
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always been a KRS fan.

  

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9. "This was incredible. Thank you."
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10. "thx "
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11. "He's Really A Charismatic Speaker,,,,,"
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He should def consider doing seminars.

I know he did a few, but he would really get a massive following if he stuck with it.

  

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12. "good interview. his excuse for the PM Dawn is suspect. He didn't come at"
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anybody else like that. lol

  

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29. "yeah his whole stance on violence and his exemption is disturbed"
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30. "RE: good interview. his excuse for the PM Dawn is suspect. He didn't com..."
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...yeah, kinda picked on the weakest cats...interesting listen though...

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35. "RE: good interview. his excuse for the PM Dawn is suspect. He didn't com..."
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>...yeah, kinda picked on the weakest cats...interesting
>listen though...


Nah...he was going at the 5 Percenters too....Those cats were threatening to kill KRS...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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40. "Yeah, him picking on weak cats is definitely revisionist history"
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>>...yeah, kinda picked on the weakest cats...interesting
>>listen though...
>
>
>Nah...he was going at the 5 Percenters too....Those cats were
>threatening to kill KRS...

At one point after the Poet & Hot Day dropped their diss Just-Ice was waiting outside of Mc Poet's crib with a shotgun. Poet isn't a "weak cat". KRS didn't tell Just to do that, but that was done because of how they went at BDP.

Throughout his career KRS has been running with the likes of Just-Ice, Freddie Foxx, Willie D., Truck Turner etc. He was equipped to handle whatever type of conflict that was brought his way.

  

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41. "RE: Yeah, him picking on weak cats is definitely revisionist history"
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damn...thats some shit right there...maybe those are the stories KRS wants to keep on the low, cause that definitly sounds more guly....

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51. "I've been trying to find the Just-Ice interview where this info came fro..."
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>damn...thats some shit right there...maybe those are the
>stories KRS wants to keep on the low, cause that definitly
>sounds more guly....

but unfortunately "Just Ice interview" brings up a whole lotta other people on google. Just to be clear nobody said KRS specifically told Just-Ice to do that, Just took it upon himself to handle things that way. And anyway he's say he's cool with Poet now.

  

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42. "it wasnt suspect he broke it down perfectly"
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prince be was a nobody pop rapper runnin his mouth about legends

so he got tossed

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13. "Dope. Thanks."
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14. "This is great"
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About 46 mins in
his enthusiasm about Return Of The Boom Bap alone is worth it

Haven't got bored once

Knicks yo
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19. "yeah, that was cool to hear him talk about that album"
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>his enthusiasm about Return Of The Boom Bap alone is worth it

  

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20. "My favorite part too."
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I've always liked hearing MC's react as fans. To hear him talk about hearing DWYCK and Just To Get A Rep was tight. It made me put Return Of The Boom Bap in my playlist for tomorrow morning.

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32. "lol @ FUCK EVERYBODY ELSE. . .learned that right here"
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him talking about that album is definitely one of the highlights

  

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15. "this was entertaining. i watched the whole joint"
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nice link mane

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16. "Fresh!"
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25. "Is that Narduwar?"
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27. "sounds like him, and they're in Canada somewhere too"
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28. "No, it's some unintentionally dorky white dude"
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"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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26. "RE: KRS talks history and beefs"
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Goodness....thanks...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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31. "thx for this - krs that dude"
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i truly believe he was born to be an emcee

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34. "didn't like the apology section"
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rest was good though.

  

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37. "KRS basically interviews himself."
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ask one question and he can go on for an hour to answer it and the whole room will have their full attention on him. master of ceremony indeed.

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38. "Anyone got an interview where he talks about becoming Christian?"
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After having made a song like 'Higher Level'?

Title, take the title from the Bible we can get there
Rip the title from off the front of the Bible, God don't live there
Too many inconsistencies, too many mysteries
Picture the Pope and the Vatican, laughing and drinking and singing and
Kissing me
I stand with God whether I'm paid or whether I'm cryin' broke
I like to ask these politicans would Jesus vote?
The way we view God is a freakin' shame
Church is to blame
We trust God, but bomb Hussein
We simply lovin' the scripture
Same scripture that whipped 'cha
Sooner it'll hit 'cha
Religion's gettin' richer
With that European version of Christ made into a picture
Our society's gettin' sicker, and sicker, and sicker...
Like liquor, we are God-Intoxicated
Not to the true God, but the one the government created
The same governments tellin' people to vote
I pray to God because the people have lost hope
You either vote for the mumps or the measels
Whether you vote for the lesser of two evils, you vote for evil
Politics and God are not equal
But the education if you don't guard, is really lethal
People have more respect for a holy book
Than they do for a cow on a meat hook
Belivers of Jesus be denouncing Satan on every level
But every Halloween they're dressin' like devils
I pray to you for the light you might give them
Mother make them know that you're livin' with them
You begin them and end them in silence
Frankly, if they knew you, they would understand violence
I pray to you for the Pope and the Vatican
Have mercy Mother, cause I know that you're mad at them
The White Jesus deceived us awhile ago
And Pope Julius the Second paid Michaelangelo
I know this happened in 1519 yet
This is the image we can't seem to forget
Vote for God, don't vote for the Devil
Let me take you to a higher level...



  

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Ampex 472
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39. "I love how he put that dirty show promoter on full blast."
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43. "Not called The Blastmaster for Nathan. N/ m."
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White Bronco.

  

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maro
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44. "Will now spend the rest of the week listening to KRS"
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This was great. Got me all kinds of hype about listening to his catalog again. Been a minute.


Puts on Return of the Boom Bap


lurkin since 1999. werd.

  

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45. "damn yo, many thanks"
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46. "much appreciation"
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must see him live again...whenever I hear hip-hop shows suck I wish they had KRS show them the way

See ya, JAK
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48. "This is the one dude out there who bleeds hiphop"
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His belief in it as a culture (which I always find corny until HE speaks about it) is infectious.

A true pioneer.

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49. "watched the entire interview..."
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...very dope and honest indeed.

"The more a country produces..the richer it is...the better it should take care of it's people. - Dr. Aleida Guevara"

  

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50. "Thanks"
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β€œSo back we go to these questions β€” friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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