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lonesome_d
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"RIP The Listening Room, 12/1/2010 - 12/2/2011"
Tue Nov-29-11 10:45 AM by mrhood75

          

http://fettig.net/weblog/2011/11/28/listening-room-shutting-down-december-2/

brought to my attention by the inimitable Howard S. Ya.

That basically gives those of us who've been frequenting TLR and Mumu before it a week to look over our options and make recommendations. I feel like if we had a site combining the strengths of those two it'd be killer, but alas.

Preferred characteristics, if anyone has a contender or if any developers are combing the OKP forums looking for ideas:

Major:
-it works
-everyone in the room gets to program music
-no max # contributors (at least not an unreasonably low # like 5)
-no points/popularity system
-no FB/Twitter necessary for those of us still in the 2000s

Less important:
-no limit on artist/song/album plays in a row
-no available library (I feel like that's a crutch, but I know some people like it)

Of contested importance:
-playlist visibility (to others)
-playlist flexibility
-cute avatars
-accurate 'time elapsed' functions so we have an idea how long the song is
-ability to jump around within the same song

-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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Topic Outline
Subject Author Message Date ID
Well, that blows
Nov 28th 2011
1
pretty much
Nov 28th 2011
3
      RE: pretty much
Nov 28th 2011
10
I was really interested in joining that shit...
Nov 28th 2011
2
I think the real-time listening/chat is a great feature
Nov 28th 2011
4
It always went blank when I tried to write something...
Nov 28th 2011
5
      Chrome worked perfectly fine for me until late October, but then
Nov 28th 2011
6
RE: I was really interested in joining that shit...
Nov 28th 2011
11
      cross-posts
May 03rd 2012
41
while on the subject, all TLR vets should make an effort for Friday
Nov 28th 2011
7
I'll definitely try to be there.
Nov 28th 2011
8
I'm hoping when he means shutting down Friday
Nov 29th 2011
14
      yeah, i was gonna say
Nov 29th 2011
15
           the notice says Friday will be the last da of operation
Nov 29th 2011
16
i'll do my best
Nov 28th 2011
9
i'll try.
Nov 29th 2011
12
i'm in.
Nov 29th 2011
13
Count me in
Nov 29th 2011
18
but...but who will I argue with now?!?
Nov 29th 2011
17
This The Part That Gets Me
Nov 29th 2011
19
*assaults Joe w/music from 1928*
Nov 29th 2011
20
THERE'S ONLY 2 DAYS LEFT!!!!
Dec 01st 2011
21
Another brand new option
Dec 01st 2011
22
i loved it but couldnt keep doing it when september
Dec 01st 2011
23
i know what you mean
Dec 01st 2011
24
RE: I haven't been in lately either.
Dec 01st 2011
25
Go out with a bang
Dec 02nd 2011
26
BANG
Dec 02nd 2011
27
You guys should really migrate to Spotify.
Dec 02nd 2011
28
I think the problem with using Spotify is the playlists are visible
Dec 02nd 2011
29
You should stop by if you haven't/Personal selections is a priority
Dec 02nd 2011
30
RE: RIP The Listening Room, 12/1/2010 - 12/2/2011
Dec 03rd 2011
31
hoping that outloud.fm willl work out well
Dec 04th 2011
33
      I've been playing with the public room.
Dec 05th 2011
38
R.I.P.
Dec 03rd 2011
32
RE: The (almost) final charts.
Dec 04th 2011
34
wow
Dec 05th 2011
35
      too late
Dec 05th 2011
36
           hahah
Dec 05th 2011
37
           never too late never too late never too late
Dec 07th 2011
40
Well In The Meantime I'll Be Hanging Out Here On Turntable.fm
Dec 05th 2011
39

mrhood75
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1. "Well, that blows"
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I know I haven't been around nearly as much (due to reasons beyond my control), but I certainly enjoyed it while I could. Imma try to stop in tomorrow or Wednesday at least.

As far as alternatives, um... I've got nothing. Not really saavy like that. I can see how tt.fm is problematic though.

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lonesome_d
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3. "pretty much"
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>I know I haven't been around nearly as much (due to reasons
>beyond my control), but I certainly enjoyed it while I could.
>Imma try to stop in tomorrow or Wednesday at least.

seems like whatever happened in late October was really the death blow.


>As far as alternatives, um... I've got nothing. Not really
>saavy like that. I can see how tt.fm is problematic though.

we could go back to Mumu, but the 5 user/room limit kinda sucks. And mumu's been very problematic when we've gone back to it while TLR was having issues. So whether it's a long term solution (or even short term) is questionable.

I googled social listening quickly, and a lot of what is going on seems to be aimed at mobile devices, which sin't what we're looking for either.

One option might be outloud.fm but man, they ask you to log in with twitter or facebook, no other options. Pfft.

-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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howisya
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10. "RE: pretty much"
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>One option might be outloud.fm but man, they ask you to log in
>with twitter or facebook, no other options. Pfft.

i looked at this tonight and think it's the best alternative as it's very similar to TLR... one difference is the playlist is more like mumu

  

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Jakob Hellberg
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2. "I was really interested in joining that shit..."
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However, it practically never worked for me. I managed to upload a Flsket Brinner-song (sweden FTW!) after a lot of struggle but I'm not sure anyone heard it. Anyway, I read some of the discussions when it worked for me (most notably one about kraut-rock where I REALLY wanted to contribute since it came acr4oss a bit clueless and I knew EXACTLY what to say) but it didn't work when I tried to write something.

Anyway, it se44e4med like 4y'all guys used a twitter-esque one-line format for discussion which just doe4s4n't work for me at all but I hope a new version will enable a different approach to discussion...

  

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lonesome_d
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4. "I think the real-time listening/chat is a great feature"
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Dunno which Kraut rock discussion but there was one a few weeks back. Weird though as unregistered users can usually chat with no problem.

Given that we've had a taste of it so far, i can't imagine we won't hit on something else for the meantime.

Currently rocking to the Pointer Sisters version of Wang Dang Doodle.

-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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Jakob Hellberg
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5. "It always went blank when I tried to write something..."
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Mon Nov-28-11 05:03 PM by Jakob Hellberg

          

Like all of a sudden, it was showing no users and I lacked the ability to post. I didn't use Chrome though, it was always explorer (I tried it at work, never at home. We are not allowed to install outside programs anymore which I can understand since idiots fucked up the pr4ivilege by using the work-server for MASSIvE movie-downloads and internet radio shows 4that took up too much bandwidth); maybe that's the problem...

  

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lonesome_d
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6. "Chrome worked perfectly fine for me until late October, but then"
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it totally bombed, with a variation of what you're describing (but worse since it never loaded at all).

Now for some reason IE is the only one that works for me. Got it up & running just in time for the damn site to shut down.

Understandable about the company restrictions; I'd do the same thing. Especially if my employees were infringing copyright via my equipment. g

Hopefully we'll find a good replacement that'll work for you too.

-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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howisya
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11. "RE: I was really interested in joining that shit..."
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>Anyway, I read some
>of the discussions when it worked for me (most notably one
>about kraut-rock where I REALLY wanted to contribute since it
>came acr4oss a bit clueless and I knew EXACTLY what to say)
>but it didn't work when I tried to write something.

in my defense, i was writing at work, while working, and imcvspl specifically asked me not to play any can, neu!, or faust, even though he wanted examples of krautrock, so i was doubly limited

  

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41. "cross-posts"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2688608&mode=full#2693999

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2530978&mesg_id=2530978&listing_type=search

  

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7. "while on the subject, all TLR vets should make an effort for Friday"
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including the guys we haven't seen in a while... OldPro, Yamamaswig, nitsuj, buckshot_debarge, thebigfunk, MrHood75, you name it.

Be good for everyone to hang one last time.

-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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8. "I'll definitely try to be there."
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I want to see a massive room, guys.

I'm actually feeling pretty sad that it's going away.

  

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14. "I'm hoping when he means shutting down Friday"
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that he means by the end of the day. It'll be depressing if we all try to get on but the site's already gone.

  

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15. "yeah, i was gonna say"
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abe is not exactly the most reliable person. remember when he'd say the site would be up by noon, then it was in a few hours, then it was a few more days, etc.? the last day being friday may mean to him 12:00 am.

  

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16. "the notice says Friday will be the last da of operation"
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so I'm relatively confident he won't pull the plug early.

I think I'm going to buy him a coffee today. It's overdue.

-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

avy by buckshot_defunct

  

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9. "i'll do my best"
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Don't have too much to play but would love to hang out for a bit... hope an alternative is found soon!

-thebigfunk

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12. "i'll try."
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just hope we can find a replacement that works.

  

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13. "i'm in."
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V.

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https://soundcloud.com/confessionsofacurlymindredux
https://soundcloud.com/generic80sbadguy
https://soundcloud.com/miles_matheson

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18. "Count me in"
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...your Auntie Clarisse!

lurkin since 1999. werd.

  

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17. "but...but who will I argue with now?!?"
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this is sad news.

D

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and don't forget to check "DVS 4 ALDERMAN"

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19. "This The Part That Gets Me"
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>-no FB/Twitter necessary for those of us still in the 2000s

C'mon, really, I think TLR & Mumu was the only place that allowed you to sign in without having an account with bookface or twitter; but now that TLR is going and mumu sucking ass, people need to get with the times or bow out of participating.


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20. "*assaults Joe w/music from 1928*"
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>people need to get with the times or bow out of
>participating.

-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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21. "THERE'S ONLY 2 DAYS LEFT!!!!"
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█▆▇▅▇█▇▆▄▁▃
http://concretesoundsystem.com
Mo'Nium - http://monium.tumblr.com/

"When the music stops he falls back into this abyss."

  

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22. "Another brand new option"
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Thu Dec-01-11 10:19 AM by lonesome_d

          

timing maybe designed to cash in on TLR's demise?

http://www.soundrop.com/press

I haven't used Spotify at all... anyone interested in checking this option out? (I haven't gotten my Twitter acct. yet either!)

d'oh... just saw you need a Fbook account too.

-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

avy by buckshot_defunct

  

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23. "i loved it but couldnt keep doing it when september"
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rolled around

Bandcamp/IG/FB/Twitter: @hecticzeniths

  

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24. "i know what you mean"
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it's eaten up a ton of productivity... not so much the music as a whole but the chat and any song with lyrics rapped in english (i know that was highly specific, but i find it hard to resist following every line when my job requires focused reading). i decided to spend less time there because i had to, but i put that aside this week because it's the last.

  

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25. "RE: I haven't been in lately either."
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I started up a Google Music account and my entire library has been uploading since the Sunday before last (20 November). It's about 65% done as of this morning. This has pretty much impeded my internet connection down to dialup speed. This of course makes the Listening Room pretty much unusable.

=/

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26. "Go out with a bang"
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bus
driver
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http://concretesoundsystem.com
Mo'Nium - http://monium.tumblr.com/

"When the music stops he falls back into this abyss."

  

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27. "BANG"
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-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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28. "You guys should really migrate to Spotify."
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The selection is decent and it's getting better every week.

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29. "I think the problem with using Spotify is the playlists are visible"
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Correct me if I'm wrong about that. But I think part of the appeal of the sites we've been using is not knowing what comes next.

And on a personal note, Spotify doesn't work at my office either. In fact, just about anything streaming craps out at the office. As soon as they moved us out of our building, it's all gone to shit.

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Checkin' Our Style, Return To Zero:

https://www.mixcloud.com/returntozero/

  

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30. "You should stop by if you haven't/Personal selections is a priority"
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Fri Dec-02-11 01:26 PM by imcvspl

  

          

Not a shared library to search from, but playing things from your personal library. Countless songs which got run in TLR would have never been found in Spotify.
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31. "RE: RIP The Listening Room, 12/1/2010 - 12/2/2011"
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so any word on an interim substitute? Back to mumu until something better comes along?

-thebigfunk

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33. "hoping that outloud.fm willl work out well"
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I didn't love the interface when I popped in briefly on Friday but like all these sites each one takes some getting used to before we consider it the norm.

-------
so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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38. "I've been playing with the public room."
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It's similar to MuMu since you can see everyone's uploads, but I don't like that you can't rearrange them.

  

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Steve O Tron v2
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32. "R.I.P."
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Sat Dec-03-11 10:59 AM by Steve O Tron v2

          

It was a great site, and I definitely had a fun time (even with its minor quirks).

I don't post in The Lesson much anymore, so The Listening Room (and MuMu) is the most interaction I've had with board members in a while. It was awesome getting to know people's personalities a bit more and getting a better grasp of everyone's tastes. Moreover, it served as a good outlet for me to play music I normally wouldn't share or post about.

Good times.


  

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Austin
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34. "RE: The (almost) final charts."
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Took this Friday morning before I left for work.

http://i43.tinypic.com/3341bp3.jpg

~Austin

os·ti·na·to
/ˌästəˈnädō/
noun
a continually repeated musical phrase or rhythm

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

https://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2017/332378

  

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35. "wow"
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Mon Dec-05-11 10:10 AM by lonesome_d

          

I didn't even know you could do anything like that. I know PL was collating some data via the last.fm plugin, and he shsared our tags with us a while back... I'd love to see some of the data on most played artists & what not as well.

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so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

avy by buckshot_defunct

  

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howisya
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36. "too late"
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>I'd love to see some of the
>data on most played artists & what not as well.

but they are probably Various Artists and Dj Joey Joe

  

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37. "hahah"
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>>I'd love to see some of the
>>data on most played artists & what not as well.
>
>but they are probably Various Artists and Dj Joey Joe

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so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

avy by buckshot_defunct

  

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40. "never too late never too late never too late"
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Uhh the eagle has landed.
Where 'eagle' = last fm data
and 'landed' = on my desktop
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Big PEMFin H & z's
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http://concretesoundsystem.com
Mo'Nium - http://monium.tumblr.com/

"When the music stops he falls back into this abyss."

  

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39. "Well In The Meantime I'll Be Hanging Out Here On Turntable.fm"
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Since TLR is down, and we still want to be able to connect, chat, and listen to music, and we haven't decided where to go to some place similar, I decided to open up a place on Turntable.fm for the meantime, come join me.

Lank: http://turntable.fm/forgotten_lessons



P.S.: when we will be meeting at that outloud spot?


https://tinyurl.com/y4ba6hog

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"We in here talking about later career Prince records
& your fool ass is cruising around in a time machine
trying to collect props for a couple of sociopathic degenerates" - s.blak

  

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