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"MC's Who's Passion or Personality make up for lack of Technical MC Skill..."


  

          

MC's Who's Passion or Personality make up for lack of Technical MC Skills: You need both? The Kanye post made me think about Tupac and a few other MC's who's emotions, passion and approach to the MIC assist with maybe the lack of Technical Skills or deep lyrical ability. Some MC's are almost too technical but some have the passion and emotions that make you overlook (not really a lack of skills) some minor errors in traditional MCing. Some names that come to mind are:

1.Tupac (though more lyrical than people give him credit)
2. Kanye West
3. Chuck D (great MC but I personally dont always dig his style but his passion, voice & personality on the mic (power)helped him.
4. Biggie (ok...wait..lol...what I mean here is Biggie personlity on the mic was so good he could say crazy shit. "you look so good, I'll s*** your..**you know the rest"..lol
5.Snoop...all personality on the mic...early songs he was dope but now he can get by with anything..

just some examples from my perspective...Thoughts...who would you say Passion or Personality get them over the hump? Why?

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talib kweli.
Sep 28th 2011
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RE: talib kweli.
Sep 28th 2011
2
Excellent answer
Sep 28th 2011
43
I'd say he's definitely improved on that though
Sep 29th 2011
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ODB
Sep 28th 2011
3
RE: ODB
Sep 28th 2011
4
Aesop Rock
Sep 28th 2011
5
don't undersell him.
Sep 28th 2011
7
wow...yall two are on some sorta crusade against dude, huh?
Sep 28th 2011
26
      Hahaha right?
Sep 28th 2011
32
I'm assuming this.is a joke answer
Sep 28th 2011
52
      he's no asap rocky that's for sure.
Sep 28th 2011
54
On the mic, DJ Quik
Sep 28th 2011
6
shit eiht too. How long were we gonna fall for the late last syllable
Sep 28th 2011
9
I feel like Eiht has a lot of quotables though
Sep 28th 2011
12
shit. EIHT should have been the first one I said in this post
Oct 03rd 2011
131
Maybe not "lyrics" but flow and delivery are +++++++++
Sep 28th 2011
38
      Yup. He ain't sayin shit most of the time lol
Sep 28th 2011
67
I don't agree with you about Biggie & Chuck D at all
Sep 28th 2011
8
RE: I don't agree with you about Biggie & Chuck D at all
Sep 28th 2011
11
      Chuck D I'll give you after Fear Of A Black Planet
Sep 28th 2011
18
      I see what you're saying about Biggie.
Sep 28th 2011
34
That's funny because I've always compared 2Pac & Kanye
Sep 28th 2011
10
RE: That's funny because I've always compared 2Pac & Kanye
Sep 28th 2011
16
Word. Biggie could say whatever he wanted and pull it off.
Sep 28th 2011
20
Huh?
Sep 28th 2011
35
      Nas said so himself in an interview.
Sep 28th 2011
48
           Wild.
Sep 28th 2011
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                I'm disappointed I can't find a link.
Sep 28th 2011
68
                     Cool - thanks
Sep 28th 2011
69
Biz Markie n/m
Sep 28th 2011
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sidenote:
Sep 28th 2011
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RE: sidenote:
Sep 28th 2011
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      huh?
Sep 28th 2011
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           RE: huh?
Sep 28th 2011
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In the mid-90's, Mack 10
Sep 28th 2011
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RE: In the mid-90's, Mack 10
Sep 28th 2011
50
Early Young Jeezy and Rick Ross
Sep 28th 2011
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50 Cent & DMX n/m
Sep 28th 2011
23
Khujo Goodie n/m
Sep 28th 2011
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imo, Khujo's voice and delivery GET IN THE WAY
Sep 28th 2011
44
Q-Tip?
Sep 28th 2011
25
this was gonna be my response.
Sep 28th 2011
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yes he was actually, dude implemented a classic rap voice in an
Sep 28th 2011
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      would you mention Q-Tip in the same breath as a Nas or Jay-Z or
Sep 28th 2011
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      Probably not be he's a Top 20 MC all-time in my estimation
Sep 28th 2011
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      he has a great voice.
Sep 28th 2011
51
           voice ain't the same as personality, neither is flow/technique
Sep 28th 2011
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I once had a fetish, fetish for some BOOTY
Sep 28th 2011
37
dude's verses are some of the most *listenable* ever spit..
Sep 28th 2011
55
Definately! I put him and Median in the same category
Sep 29th 2011
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missy elliott.
Sep 28th 2011
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foh, biggie was a lyrical monster
Sep 28th 2011
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RE: foh, biggie was a lyrical monster
Sep 28th 2011
30
true. See any song Premier produced for Big as evidence
Sep 29th 2011
82
That avatar just captivated me for a whole 2 min!
Sep 29th 2011
114
you're all over the place with this, Big had one of the best flows ever
Sep 28th 2011
31
RE: you're all over the place with this, Big had one of the best flows e...
Sep 28th 2011
36
Pimp C. Rick Ross. Trick Daddy. E-40. Too Short
Sep 28th 2011
39
I think Pimp C was better than Bun in the beginning
Sep 29th 2011
81
also, Too $hort should have been the first reply in this post
Oct 03rd 2011
132
Did I just inspire a spinoff post?
Sep 28th 2011
40
RE: Did I just inspire a spinoff post?
Sep 28th 2011
42
Eazy-E
Sep 28th 2011
41
good choice... I forgot Eazy in my list
Sep 29th 2011
83
Greg N-I-C-E
Sep 28th 2011
45
Yepppp, he had SILLY ass lines
Sep 28th 2011
56
Should we really be including rappers who have GREAT voices?
Sep 28th 2011
46
Those doods you named absolutely had both voice AND personality.
Sep 28th 2011
63
Phife, when he was on the happy go lucky along for the ride tip.
Sep 28th 2011
49
Agreed. He was a lot of fun to listen to...
Sep 28th 2011
65
yuppppp
Sep 29th 2011
117
Ghostface. superior skill too, but his on-mic personality puts him
Sep 28th 2011
53
RE: MC's Who's Passion or Personality make up for lack of Technical MC S...
Sep 28th 2011
58
Co-sign on Sunspot Jonz
Sep 29th 2011
115
Noreaga
Sep 28th 2011
60
Ludacris
Sep 28th 2011
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AKA THE DMX POST also (THE DON OF HIP-HOP CREATIVITY)
Sep 28th 2011
64
RE: MC's Who's Passion or Personality make up for lack of Technical MC S...
Sep 28th 2011
66
I'd say a dude like Fat Joe fits the criteria perfectly.
Sep 28th 2011
70
Fat Joe can rhyme now... but in the beginning...
Sep 29th 2011
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      Yeah I'd say "Flow Joe" era Fat Joe fits here
Sep 29th 2011
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           I think he's still persona over lyrical skill.
Sep 29th 2011
105
you white boys and lame niggas may never get it
Sep 28th 2011
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RE: you white boys and lame niggas may never get it
Sep 28th 2011
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im glad you understand that man
Sep 28th 2011
77
      RE: im glad you understand that man
Sep 29th 2011
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and you don't get that it doesn't have to be one or the other
Sep 28th 2011
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ding ding ding
Sep 28th 2011
76
Isn't that kinda the whole point of this thread?
Sep 29th 2011
89
      i been breezein through the lesson since dang near 98
Sep 29th 2011
98
fu schnickens
Sep 28th 2011
73
RE: fu schnickens
Sep 28th 2011
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      Think this a game, n*gga?! ARF, ARF, ARF! Wu-Tang!
Sep 29th 2011
79
Rick Ro$$, Caca Flocka Flame, Young Jeezy
Sep 29th 2011
80
Tim Dog was ok on that Ultra Album with Kool Keith
Sep 29th 2011
84
      "What'd you say about my mama!!?!?!??!?!" - Dre
Sep 29th 2011
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      man, Eiht did an ode to that dude
Sep 29th 2011
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your choices were horrible. i thought this was gonna be a Cormega post.
Sep 29th 2011
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I'd say the opposite for Cormega
Sep 29th 2011
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      i thought Cormega fans dug his passion. no? *shrug*
Sep 29th 2011
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           I dig his passion when he talks
Oct 03rd 2011
124
           His rhymes are descriptive and evocative, but vocally he's flat
Oct 03rd 2011
125
Maino
Sep 29th 2011
86
I might as well put Shea Davis here, he's a nobody but he prolly has
Sep 29th 2011
88
He "feels real"
Sep 29th 2011
91
RE: I might as well put Shea Davis here, he's a nobody but he prolly has...
Sep 29th 2011
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I fuck w/ Maino no homo
Sep 29th 2011
107
Did anyone say Murs yet?
Sep 29th 2011
92
I put him and Slug in the same leauge
Sep 29th 2011
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      Yep, totally agreed.
Sep 29th 2011
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      uh, both spit PLENTY of multi's. especially Slug.
Oct 01st 2011
123
Lil Wayne should be #s 1,2,3,4 and 5...
Sep 29th 2011
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True.
Sep 29th 2011
100
lol okayplayer lol
Sep 29th 2011
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He was clever in the past, but I don't think so on IV
Sep 29th 2011
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RE: lol okayplayer lol
Sep 29th 2011
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if you think Wayne is clever then
Sep 29th 2011
112
      nas lost.
Sep 29th 2011
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           RE: nas lost.
Sep 30th 2011
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                'nas lost' = the greatest coping mechanism there ever was
Oct 03rd 2011
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                     also, one of the most enjoyable trolling devices.
Oct 03rd 2011
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Wayne is BECOMING that kind of rapper now....
Oct 03rd 2011
128
Suga Free
Sep 29th 2011
108
I'm goin' with Declaime AKA Dudley Perkins
Sep 29th 2011
110
I wanna add Rasco to this post too
Sep 29th 2011
111
Prodigy and Method Man
Sep 30th 2011
119
Cee-Lo, and to some extent Big Boi
Sep 30th 2011
120
RE: Cee-Lo, and to some extent Big Boi
Oct 01st 2011
122
DAS EFX
Sep 30th 2011
121
Tony Yayo & Uncle Murda
Oct 03rd 2011
126
Uncle Murda is an interesting one
Oct 03rd 2011
127
Prodigy in the last few years
Oct 03rd 2011
130
RE: Prodigy in the last few years
Oct 03rd 2011
134

Guinness
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1. "talib kweli."
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he couldn't even figure out how to fit words into a bar, but he was very positive and conscious.

  

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2. "RE: talib kweli."
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Yep, he even said that on the Hip Hop Doc "The MC"....you hit it right on the head. Lyrics helped his lack of technical skills

  

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43. "Excellent answer"
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101. "I'd say he's definitely improved on that though"
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as of the Revolutions Per Minute album, Kweli seems to have a much better grasp of delivery than he did on Blackstar;
chooses his words more carefully, uses his words more skillfully.

  

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3. "ODB"
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4. "RE: ODB"
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lol...lol...YEP....All Passion and Style and we LOVED it..lol

  

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5. "Aesop Rock"
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Writes rhymes like a spam email but he still has the hearts and ears of real hip hop fans from sweden to vermont

  

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7. "don't undersell him."
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his listenership spans wide swaths of the heartland, from the snow-capped mailboxes of minnesota to the lush backyards of wisconsin.

  

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26. "wow...yall two are on some sorta crusade against dude, huh?"
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32. "Hahaha right?"
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I did laugh at their posts though, honestly.

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52. "I'm assuming this.is a joke answer"
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All though I guess that depend on how you define a n Mc's technical prowess.


He isn't eminem or Jay-z in terms of smooth delivery

But in terms of lyrics/concepts/punchlines/originality you can't front on him

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54. "he's no asap rocky that's for sure."
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6. "On the mic, DJ Quik"
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Really nothing special lyrically, but his swag was, and is, so insanely dope.

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9. "shit eiht too. How long were we gonna fall for the late last syllable"
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we thought he was gonna not finish the rhyme

but he always did

just one beat.... *late*

  

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12. "I feel like Eiht has a lot of quotables though"
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His shit still looks tight on paper.

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131. "shit. EIHT should have been the first one I said in this post"
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38. "Maybe not "lyrics" but flow and delivery are +++++++++"
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67. "Yup. He ain't sayin shit most of the time lol"
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But it's so smooth.

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8. "I don't agree with you about Biggie & Chuck D at all"
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the rest I can live with,
although Pac, was fairly 'technical' 'til All Eyez On Me,
it was on there he coasted on his personality/charisma/voice/passion/.


I'd add ODB & EAZY E

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11. "RE: I don't agree with you about Biggie & Chuck D at all"
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Biggie was just an example of how personality wise he could say what he wanted to and get a pass. Of course Bigge had MAJOR skills all the way around...he was an example

Chuck D to me always seemed a little off beat but the POWER in his voice made you overlook it.

In my humble opinion

  

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18. "Chuck D I'll give you after Fear Of A Black Planet"
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it's like he lost some steam after that one
PE as a whole anyway,
but Yo! Bumrush The Show, It Takes A Nation Of Millions & Fear Of A Black Planet, I will ride for those three as one of the greatest performances of a mc, voice/delivery/technique in Hiphop history.

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34. "I see what you're saying about Biggie."
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He would say shit like "Hope they know my nigga Gutter fuckin kidnip kids/Fuck 'em in the ass, throw 'em over the bridge" but his charisma made it seem like a normal lyric.

Clearly he was madddd skilled technically, though.

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10. "That's funny because I've always compared 2Pac & Kanye"
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in this way, though Kanye has been given the chance to become more lyrical as time progresses. I really believe Kanye is the closest thing to Pac, with the level of emotion and personality that he brings to his music. Sure, they're on different wavelengths, but the feeling is there.

But Biggie? I strongly disagree. Dude was a beast. The best flow, top three storyteller, incredible voice. Even Nas was scared to get in the studio with him for the "Machine Gun Funk" remix.

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16. "RE: That's funny because I've always compared 2Pac & Kanye"
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Kanye is a poor version of Tupac. I agree with your comment.

As for Biggie: see my comment above. Of course he is one of the best, thats not the angle I was coming from.

  

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20. "Word. Biggie could say whatever he wanted and pull it off."
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35. "Huh?"
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>Even Nas was
>scared to get in the studio with him for the "Machine Gun
>Funk" remix.

Proof, please.

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48. "Nas said so himself in an interview."
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He said that Big had his verse memorized when he asked him why he wasn't writing. Nas got scared and bounced, to paraphrase.

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62. "Wild."
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Any way you can find a link to this interview? I'm sorry I just need something like this from the horse's mouth.

Only reason I'm so shocked is cause I know Nas was so bullshit that Ready to Die took all the awards over Illmatic that year, and I know he had the utmost confidence that he was a better MC at the time. Obviously post Biggie's death he's not gonna still be parading around talkin bout "I'm way better than Biggie was" but I'm surprised to hear that he admitted he was "scared" to get in the booth with him, at any time.

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68. "I'm disappointed I can't find a link."
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The only reason it sticks out so much in my memory is because I was taken back by Nas's comments, too. I'm 100% certain there's a video interview where Nas talks about it, though.

The closest thing I could find were people talking about it in the comments section of this blog:

http://escobartheory.blogspot.com/2006/12/stocking-stuffers.html

But I'll keep searching.

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69. "Cool - thanks"
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13. "Biz Markie n/m"
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http://islasoul.bandcamp.com

  

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14. "sidenote:"
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in 2011, how do people still not know where the "suck your daddy's dick" line came from? it's been discussed in every OMG GAY LYRICZZZ post ever created on the internet.

  

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15. "RE: sidenote:"
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He still said it in a rhyme/song was my point...and fans (we) were ok with it...

  

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17. "huh?"
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it's a line from richard pryor, the fucking god of standup comedy. of course everyone is okay with it. and BIG is the best rapper ever, so there's that too.

  

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19. "RE: huh?"
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My G, I understand that. I'm talking about within the context of the song it just came out of nowhere. Also, as a high school dude, I didnt think of Richard Pryor stand-up at that time. Most of you all didnt either. Most of us were teens when Ready to Die dropped. I'm in my mid 30's now and not 17..lol

  

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21. "In the mid-90's, Mack 10"
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Dude was so gangsta with it, you couldn't help but fuck with him.

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50. "RE: In the mid-90's, Mack 10"
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IMO...mack 10 is a top 5 corniest/weak rapper ever...never bought his thug, just embarrasingly bad in all aspecets involving a m-i-c...

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22. "Early Young Jeezy and Rick Ross"
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___________________________
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23. "50 Cent & DMX n/m"
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http://islasoul.bandcamp.com

  

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24. "Khujo Goodie n/m"
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http://islasoul.bandcamp.com

  

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44. "imo, Khujo's voice and delivery GET IN THE WAY"
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of his lyrics...dude is skilled enough with the words.

  

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25. "Q-Tip?"
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27. "this was gonna be my response."
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he was a style all to his own, but technically he wasn't a monster or anything like that.

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33. "yes he was actually, dude implemented a classic rap voice in an"
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almost jazz-scat way while knowing exactly where to be on the beat.

That has nothing to do with 'personality' & everything to do with him being blessed with unique vocal abilities while also taking a musician-type of approach to rap as a guy who soaks up music like a sponge plus did tons of production work.

This post is getting dumber by the minute.

Mr. Cheeks got by on personality/charisma, Q-Tip was/is a legitimately great MC/artist.

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47. "would you mention Q-Tip in the same breath as a Nas or Jay-Z or "
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Biggie? I'm not dissing Q-Tip, I'm just saying his technical abilities were superceded by his charm and charisma.

I'm not saying Q-Tip was like Fat Joe or U-God or something like that technically, but out of all of Tribe's catalog, I can remember lines that he said that were memorable, but not any where I was like, 'man, tip spit flames.'

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57. "Probably not be he's a Top 20 MC all-time in my estimation"
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>Biggie? I'm not dissing Q-Tip, I'm just saying his technical
>abilities were superceded by his charm and charisma.
>
I'm saying your definition of 'technical abilities' is so narrow it's disregarding some of the main technical aspects of rapping.

You're mistaking what some call 'lyrical' as the end-all be-all for 'technical', then substituting voice/flow/ability-to-meld-ones-voice-with-a-beat for charm/charisma or for the younger folks....swag.

That's why this post is mostly a mess already.

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51. "he has a great voice."
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but he could say anything in that voice
and i'd listen to it.

he's never said anything that had my jaw on the floor.

  

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59. "voice ain't the same as personality, neither is flow/technique"
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>but he could say anything in that voice
>and i'd listen to it.
>
>he's never said anything that had my jaw on the floor.
>
>

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37. "I once had a fetish, fetish for some BOOTY "
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Lines like that made him greaaaat, that shit is dumb as hell but hilarious

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55. "dude's verses are some of the most *listenable* ever spit.."
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and i'm considering his *skill* and *rhyming* as separate things... ain't the best rhymes in the world, but the skill of how to use his voice and how to phrase his verses over a beat.. that shit was/is superior..

  

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113. "Definately! I put him and Median in the same category"
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rhyme sceme-wise. Neither one had a rough or comanding voice, but it's almost as if they delibrately went against that.

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28. "missy elliott."
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made an entire successful career out of never saying a gatdamn thing.


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29. "foh, biggie was a lyrical monster"
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the added personality was just the extra topping

  

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30. "RE: foh, biggie was a lyrical monster"
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Read my comment dude on the thread.

  

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82. "true. See any song Premier produced for Big as evidence"
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a lot of the Ready to Die material, he was showing off. "Juicy" and basically the other singles were a bad indicator of what Biggie could really do. He could have been the only other rapper besides Snoop that could get away with anything.

  

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114. "That avatar just captivated me for a whole 2 min!"
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31. "you're all over the place with this, Big had one of the best flows ever"
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and Snoop has one of the five most classically melodic voices in the history of the genre.

Chuck D had a booming, powerful voice that grabbed your attention & he said some shit.

These guys don't really fit the category of what you're talking about in my eyes.

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36. "RE: you're all over the place with this, Big had one of the best flows e..."
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Read again what I wrote my G.

  

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39. "Pimp C. Rick Ross. Trick Daddy. E-40. Too Short"
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81. "I think Pimp C was better than Bun in the beginning"
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then Bun suddenly got on some Usain Bolt shit and lapped him

  

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132. "also, Too $hort should have been the first reply in this post"
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him and Biz Markie

  

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40. "Did I just inspire a spinoff post?"
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Cool.

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42. "RE: Did I just inspire a spinoff post?"
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Indeed my G. You did.

  

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41. "Eazy-E"
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I'd also agree about Snoop - he's usually in the pocket with good flow, but his actual lyrical content is way secondary to his personality and just the way he says whatever he's saying. He could do a whole song of izzle-bizzle chuuuuch and it would sound cool.

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83. "good choice... I forgot Eazy in my list"
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he's easily one of my favorite rappers ever.

  

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45. "Greg N-I-C-E"
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Dude is just fun.
I would add Smooth B, but Smooth B doesn't exist without Greg Nice.

  

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56. "Yepppp, he had SILLY ass lines"
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46. "Should we really be including rappers who have GREAT voices?"
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Snoop, Eazy E, Tupac, Chuck D all have really distinctive voices. If everything you say sounds good, can you really classify that as personality?

  

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63. "Those doods you named absolutely had both voice AND personality."
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But I see what you're saying.

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49. "Phife, when he was on the happy go lucky along for the ride tip."
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His shtick was actually endearing back then. Outside of a handful of songs he wasn't very enjoyable on the later albums when he was actually taking himself seriously.

  

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65. "Agreed. He was a lot of fun to listen to..."
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but not much to write home about lyrically, like at all.

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117. "yuppppp"
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Did not you know that my styles are top-dollar?
The five-foot assassin knockin fleas off his collar
Hip-hop scholar since bein knee-high to a duck
The height of mugsy bogues, complexion of a hockey puck

  

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53. "Ghostface. superior skill too, but his on-mic personality puts him"
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over the edge and scoots him up that all-time list (imo)... so i know that doesn't really answer the original question, but still.. because dude's style is kinda hard to latch on to (for some), i'd imagine his personality carries him a long way w/ some ppl.. also, i think his personality is intertwined w/ his diction and rhyme style.. it's crazy how he can be sloppy, sharp, non sequitur, detailed silly and dead serious all at the same time... Ghostface has rare ability

  

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58. "RE: MC's Who's Passion or Personality make up for lack of Technical MC S..."
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- Cormega
- Too $hort (his game, personality, and old school style make you forget he's been doin the same flow and rhyme scheme since the mid to late 80's)
- The Jacka from Mob Figgaz (west coast Cormega)
- Lil B (hated on him for the longest, but his persona won me over)
- Biz Markie (dope emcee skills, but not a lyricist..)
- Phife Dawg (had a good feel for the music, a unique voice, and knew how to put together songs.. but limited with his rappin skills)
- BFAP/Sunspot Jonz (really choppy awkward flow and off tune sing songy raps, but 100% emotion reminiscent of Pac at his finest.. especially on the old underground Mystik Journeymen tapes).
- I love ODB and think his emcee skills are great/hype, but yeah.. definitely an acquired taste.. What sold me on him was the back&forth spittin' w/the RZA on "Cuttin' Headz"




White Bronco.

  

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115. "Co-sign on Sunspot Jonz"
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That nigga choppy as hell! but I always felt where he was comin from. He'll make you feel where he was coming from.

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60. "Noreaga"
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I mean, let's be honest. He never was that good, but something about the way he approached rhyming. Even after The War Report where I heard Tragedy was writing for him, he was still making bangers all the way up til Melvyn Flynt. Even God's favorite had some aight songs.

  

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61. "Ludacris "
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He raps like nursery rhymes, but emphasizes the punchline so hard folks don't realize its corny.

  

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64. "AKA THE DMX POST also (THE DON OF HIP-HOP CREATIVITY)"
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66. "RE: MC's Who's Passion or Personality make up for lack of Technical MC S..."
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MITCHY SLICK

BIG TWINZ

THIS POST NEED TO STEER BACK ON COURSE

You slap the nigga(DRAKE) five n he gon moisturize ya palms nahmean!-BIG GHOST NAHMEAN!

  

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70. "I'd say a dude like Fat Joe fits the criteria perfectly."
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94. "Fat Joe can rhyme now... but in the beginning..."
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dude was POO POO

his beats weren't though

  

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103. "Yeah I'd say "Flow Joe" era Fat Joe fits here"
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>dude was POO POO
>
>his beats weren't though

Jealous Ones Envy was a tremendous step up lyrically.

  

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105. "I think he's still persona over lyrical skill."
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Shit, I *like* the persona though, for what it's worth.

I'd always take his music over dudes like 50.

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71. "you white boys and lame niggas may never get it"
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and thats okay

metaphors and multisylabic rhymes do not trump passion, and lyrical content ( the actual message being communicated)


you herbs cannot put this shit into a box... you want to but you cant



i leave you "i dont care if an emcee is rhymeing about eating cerial... as long as its dope" as lames be

{leaves this post like most real appreciaters of black music have left the lesson and this site]

  

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72. "RE: you white boys and lame niggas may never get it"
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"metaphors and multisylabic rhymes do not trump passion, and lyrical content ( the actual message being communicated)"...THATS ONE OF THE BEST COMMENTS ON THE THREAD PERIOD


I can listen and enjoy a Tupac song much easier than someone spitting alot of shit just to be spitting...trying to sound educated. If the song isnt crafted the right way, it doesnt matter about the lyrics at that point b/c its not a well written song. Tupac, Kanye and a few others actually know how to make a song. The passion and the way the song is actually written is what stands the text of time.

  

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77. "im glad you understand that man"
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78. "RE: im glad you understand that man"
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I follow what you were saying. At times people get so caught up on someone being "super lyrical" but cant write a song.

  

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74. "and you don't get that it doesn't have to be one or the other"
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fuck out of here with the dumb shit.

  

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76. "ding ding ding"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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89. "Isn't that kinda the whole point of this thread?"
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The acknowledgement that personality/image/voice/message can make up for a lack of technical ability? You act like you're blowing minds, but from where I sit you're just saying the same thing most everybody in here is already talking about.

And get out with that tired "white boy" shit. Most of my favorite rappers are big personalities - I'd much rather listen to "The Chronic," which is hardly a technical clinic, than anything Black Thought has ever done (no offense to The Roots though). I enjoy some Big Pun but given the choice I'd rather listen to Kanye. And yeah, I'm white.

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98. "i been breezein through the lesson since dang near 98"
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i know the demographic and what flys in here...


  

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73. "fu schnickens"
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75. "RE: fu schnickens"
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well damn.....people take threads serious around here..lol

  

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79. "Think this a game, n*gga?! ARF, ARF, ARF! Wu-Tang!"
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>well damn.....people take threads serious around here..lol

But anyway back to furry Kangols, Jamaican wallabies.

  

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80. "Rick Ro$$, Caca Flocka Flame, Young Jeezy"
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I'm tempted to say Tim Dog, but he really only has one or two notable songs, and he was swagger jacking Chuck D like shit on one of them

  

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84. "Tim Dog was ok on that Ultra Album with Kool Keith"
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The fact that Snoop and Dre even bothered Dissing him is hilarious in retrospect because of how obscure he is

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90. ""What'd you say about my mama!!?!?!??!?!" - Dre"
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93. "man, Eiht did an ode to that dude"
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>The fact that Snoop and Dre even bothered Dissing him is
>hilarious in retrospect because of how obscure he is

the beat was "FUCK TIM DOG" over and over and over set to the drums from a Low Profile beat

  

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85. "your choices were horrible. i thought this was gonna be a Cormega post."
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and for the record, i think he's terrible.

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87. "I'd say the opposite for Cormega"
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Lyrically, he's nice as fuck, but he's quite dry and has very little personality. He would've been perfect for a group though.

___________________________
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"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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109. "i thought Cormega fans dug his passion. no? *shrug*"
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latest mixtape:
https://www.mixcloud.com/mistamonotone/music-to-smack-motherfckers-to/

mistamonotone - taboo
http://mistamonotone.bandcamp.com/album/taboo

@mistamonotone
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124. "I dig his passion when he talks"
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He seems like he actually puts thought into his rhymes and appears to be a genuine fan of the game (as evidenced by him putting all those OGs on one track), but on the mic? Dryer than an old woman's vagina.

___________________________
OL' DIRTY BASTARD on himself:
"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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125. "His rhymes are descriptive and evocative, but vocally he's flat"
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86. "Maino"
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Though I'm sure I'm the only OKP who's a fan, ha.

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"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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88. "I might as well put Shea Davis here, he's a nobody but he prolly has "
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more fans on OKP than Maino does. But yeah Maino fits the bill, he doesn't have lyrics, flow, or voice. People accept him because of his story, and his exploits.
At least Shea Davis is funny...

  

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91. "He "feels real""
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I realize we're in an era where being genuine isn't really an issue, and I don't care about it as much as I did when I was a wide-eyed youth who thought 2Pac shooting a cop was the coolest thing in the world, but it's nice to see a rapper who is as real as his lyrics.

A dude who's had that street life, and doesn't glorify it. Who did the jail time all the rappers talk about, and says it's not a place you want to be.

Plus, I'm a sucker for underdogs making it.

The same reason I fucks with Glasses Malone.

___________________________
OL' DIRTY BASTARD on himself:
"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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97. "RE: I might as well put Shea Davis here, he's a nobody but he prolly has..."
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lol..agreed

  

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107. "I fuck w/ Maino no homo"
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#Gatesgang
#blackrag

  

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92. "Did anyone say Murs yet?"
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I love Murs, personally. And I think he's pretty talented, yet I think what makes him so appealing is his personality on the mic. He's got a great presence and is fun to listen to. Doesn't take himself very seriously, and just genuinely seems like someone you'd want to hang out with.

That said, I realize he's pretty damn talented so this isn't to say that his mic presence is the only reason he's worth listening to, I just think that it is the primary reason he's had the longevity he's had, moreso than his talent level.

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95. "I put him and Slug in the same leauge"
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they aren't going to dazzle you with multis or punchlines.

Their flow isn't anything but average

but their content/sincerity is what sets them apart.

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96. "Yep, totally agreed."
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They're both pretty simplistic, many of their rhymes end in one syllable rhymes, nothing crazy. But yea, the WAY they present what they're saying and even their topics put them on a higher level.

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123. "uh, both spit PLENTY of multi's. especially Slug."
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eg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhFTh9UeqAo

it's their rhyme patterns are very elementary. ill nonetheless.

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<<progressions.

  

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99. "Lil Wayne should be #s 1,2,3,4 and 5..."
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---
http://twitter.com/logicalhood
http://instagram.com/hoodlogic

  

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100. "True."
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102. "lol okayplayer lol"
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welcome to the only place in the universe where a rapper who flows effortlessly over any tempo, employs multiple syllables and uses constant clever wordplay is "technically unskilled."

  

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104. "He was clever in the past, but I don't think so on IV"
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106. "RE: lol okayplayer lol"
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What MC are you talking about?

  

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112. "if you think Wayne is clever then"
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you're probably at a second grade reading level.

*smh*

  

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116. "nas lost."
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118. "RE: nas lost."
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lol...leave my dude Nas alone...lol..lol

  

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129. "'nas lost' = the greatest coping mechanism there ever was"
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Nas came in and Buster Douglas-ed Jay and all they can bring up is how he lost ... at everything EXCEPT the battle

  

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133. "also, one of the most enjoyable trolling devices."
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128. "Wayne is BECOMING that kind of rapper now...."
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and that's why a number of us weren't so high on Tha Carter IV

  

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108. "Suga Free"
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Although I think the motherfucker is technically quite gifted as far as timing, rapping, comedic flair, and sheer memorableness of his bars, his personality and style is what gets him over not his metaphors, similes, and time in the rapper library which I think this post is about

  

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110. "I'm goin' with Declaime AKA Dudley Perkins"
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Not saying he doesn't have any skill, but It's his will and determination( whether singing or rapping) to get his message across that keeps me checkin' for him.

╭∩╮(︶︿︶)╭∩╮





www.last.fm/user/Tha_Abstract

  

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111. "I wanna add Rasco to this post too"
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Dude got skills, but his content can get a bit stale at times. What keeps me listening is his impeacable sense of rhythm. He is ALWAYS on beat like an extra instrument. Don't know if I'd consider this a flaw or personality trait, but he says nigga like 800 times on every track lol.

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119. "Prodigy and Method Man"
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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120. "Cee-Lo, and to some extent Big Boi "
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122. "RE: Cee-Lo, and to some extent Big Boi "
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I agree about both of them also. They are nice but voices help at times.

  

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121. "DAS EFX"
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yibbidy yabba dabba hoochie coochie

all personality and technical skills but a little light on content fellas

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If you can't understand it without an explanation

you can't understand it with an explanation

  

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126. "Tony Yayo & Uncle Murda"
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127. "Uncle Murda is an interesting one"
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I remember when he hit the scene a few years back, I thought, no way this guy is going anywhere. With that name and those lyrics (basically talking about killing people the way Clipse or Jeezy talk about moving cocaine), no chance. Then he signs with Jay-Z and it appears to be on its way. Nothing materializes however, and everyone seems to forget him.

FF three or four years, career seemingly dead, he now has one of the biggest records in all of NY. I never woulda guessed.

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"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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130. "Prodigy in the last few years"
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compared to '90s - HNIC P he's slowed down
but I'll still listen for the persona

  

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134. "RE: Prodigy in the last few years"
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Though I'm a huge Prodigy fan.....I agree

"Highly developed spirits often encounter resistance from mediocre minds."-Albert Einstein

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