Lesson revisionism aside, neither of these dudes were what was hot in the streets once they went solo.

Poll result (28 votes) Lionel B.Richie (28 votes) Vote Jeffrey Osborne (0 votes) Vote

(provided that "quiet storm heat" is not a contradiction in terms lol)

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Jeffrey osbourne loved his first two albums. vocally anybody calling him white bread lost there Hood pass long ago. the Brother can still Sang.

Lionel B.Richie anybody who knows anything about Music knows his songs and whatnot were in the tradition of what Brother Ray Charles did with versatility.

Stevie B and Billy Ocean would have been better options.

the only issues Jefferey osbourne had was he lacked Musical personality, but in terms of talent and soul he was there.

Jefferey wanted what MJ and Lionel had and he had some run with George duke with him.

interesting thing Jefferey though never went Pop he stayed popular in R&B.

Lionel richie was so great he could out out anything and he was diverse with his music.

i know one thing IMO since the past 35 years ain't nobody else from R&B has made better overall songs than Lionel B.Richie. He is from the Ray Charles school SHO NUFF. and Nuff Said.

i hope this poll goes wood but it won't, it just shows Black loathing because we as Black folks don't all think and react to things the same musically. I give White heads props on here, they don't go back knocking there Musical heroes as we do.

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It's a dig at the idea that Lionel Richie's solo career is now being portrayed as something it never was. It's not to discount his song writing ability or anything like that.... but we need to keep this shit real regardless of how we feel about an artist. You don't see me up here trying to turn Ghost Busters into a hood anthem.

*edit*
Just noticed this last line

Dude you did not just post this

"it just shows Black loathing because we as Black folks don't all think and react to things the same musically. I give White heads props on here, they don't go back knocking there Musical heroes as we do."

Come on son
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what is your real agenda but a personal diss at me?

you and the others loss and badly. again don't give Lionel B.Richie no back hand compliment oh he was a great or Good songwriter and then in turn question his Blackness as a Artist??

and the man always had country and Pop in his music from the days with the commodores.

i have commodores albums and I can go deep on this topic not to mention they had gospel songs and Lionel was cut from the Ray Charles school of music making.

Lionel B.Richie is one of the greatest Artists ever and I can Put his catelog up against anybody and not flinch once.

you can't teach Songwriting and making timeless songs that is a gift from God period and the Man got it right.

you can't teach stage pressence because he got that right.

who was on stage at the Michael Jackson Memorial performing "jesus is love" and turned it out? yeah Lionel B.Richie Jr that is who.

i guess next you will question R.kelly,Brian mcknight and Joe's blackness because they all dig and respect Lionel Richie as well?

not all Black folks think the same.

you just made the Klan happy with your thread to diss two Black Soul brothers CONGRADULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!

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My issue isn't who or what you like... it's the way you pick and choose who you give props and for what.

So now because we're talking about Lionel you want to accuse other people of not respect our musical heroes... I mean really Maxxx. How do you really think you can slip a comment like that by without anyone noticing?

When we are on the subject or Prince you're real quick to point out what was or wasn't hot in the hood. Well homie this is where your card needs to be pulled.... because if you can sit here with a straight face and tell me Dancing on the Ceiling, Hello, All Night Long or any other that shit was getting run from the brothers back in the day you are either a good liar or just good at lying to yourself. Anyone here old enough to remember that time knows if you dropped a Lionel Richie track at a black party back then you would have been clowned... and clowned hard. You'd have needed to grab a Prince 12" with the quickness to get the party back on track.

Again, go ahead and love white bread Lionel all you want.... I really don't give a shit. But stop trying to justify the shit with some bizarro logic and revisionist version of the 80s. I know better.... and so do you.
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penny lover, hello and all night long were big around my way.

Lionel got play at my school and so on. commdores stuff through his mid 80's solo stuff he got some love.

sorry if Lionel richie didn't make a movie and portray having a white mother on the screen?

sorry if a follow up movie played on more stereotypes.

FYI you know Prince and Lionel were cool back in the day right? got on stage together and of course the Shelia E Connection.

however we use to pop lock to "all night long" and get the cardboard out.

Lionel had love for quite a while because folks respected the songwriting.

like i said and I ain't stopping you done made Bill Oreilly, the fox network and other Klan Members proud today with this hating post you put up.

be Proud of yourself and a tip of the cap.

we are dealing with 9-11-01 ten years later and all you can do is put down two Brothers to make yourself feel good about music that you prefer more? now that is rich!!!!!!!!!!

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Actually I can speak for areas other than my own since I was DJing around the west coast during that time.... Nobody was trying to hear Dancing On the Ceiling man.

>penny lover, hello and all night long were big around my
>way.

They were hits everywhere but that was never the point. If you rolled up to pick up game in the park and started blasting All Night Long on your boom box, what do you the reaction would had been? I'm sure you will try and tell me they all formed a conga line and joined in on the Swahili chant.

>Lionel got play at my school and so on. commdores stuff
>through his mid 80's solo stuff he got some love.
>
>sorry if Lionel richie didn't make a movie and portray having
>a white mother on the screen?
>
>sorry if a follow up movie played on more stereotypes.

Back to you favorite tactic again huh... start throwing a bunch of shit out there to distract from the point at hand. Still doesn't change the fact...... Prince got more play than Lionel among young black folks. I know it hurts but those are the facts.

>FYI you know Prince and Lionel were cool back in the day
>right? got on stage together and of course the Shelia E
>Connection.

What does this even mean? I guess you're trying to say I shouldn't call Lionel's shit white bread because Prince was cool with him... Well wouldn't that mean you should be cool with Prince then?

>however we use to pop lock to "all night long" and get the
>cardboard out.
>
>Lionel had love for quite a while because folks respected the
>songwriting.

It wasn't about respecting song writing... it was about reacting to simple to digest pop songs. Nothing new here.

>like i said and I ain't stopping you done made Bill Oreilly,
>the fox network and other Klan Members proud today with this
>hating post you put up.
>
>be Proud of yourself and a tip of the cap.
>
>we are dealing with 9-11-01 ten years later and all you can do
>is put down two Brothers to make yourself feel good about
>music that you prefer more? now that is rich!!!!!!!!!!

Wasn't you just in that Van Hunt post the other day putting that brother down?

Come on maxxx... do better.
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>Actually I can speak for areas other than my own since I was
>DJing around the west coast during that time.... Nobody was
>trying to hear Dancing On the Ceiling man.
>
>>penny lover, hello and all night long were big around my
>>way.
>
>They were hits everywhere but that was never the point. If you
>rolled up to pick up game in the park and started blasting All
>Night Long on your boom box, what do you the reaction would
>had been? I'm sure you will try and tell me they all formed a
>conga line and joined in on the Swahili chant.
>
>>Lionel got play at my school and so on. commdores stuff
>>through his mid 80's solo stuff he got some love.
>>
>>sorry if Lionel richie didn't make a movie and portray
>having
>>a white mother on the screen?
>>
>>sorry if a follow up movie played on more stereotypes.
>
>Back to you favorite tactic again huh... start throwing a
>bunch of shit out there to distract from the point at hand.
>Still doesn't change the fact...... Prince got more play than
>Lionel among young black folks. I know it hurts but those are
>the facts.
>
>>FYI you know Prince and Lionel were cool back in the day
>>right? got on stage together and of course the Shelia E
>>Connection.
>
>What does this even mean? I guess you're trying to say I
>shouldn't call Lionel's shit white bread because Prince was
>cool with him... Well wouldn't that mean you should be cool
>with Prince then?
>
>>however we use to pop lock to "all night long" and get the
>>cardboard out.
>>
>>Lionel had love for quite a while because folks respected
>the
>>songwriting.
>
>It wasn't about respecting song writing... it was about
>reacting to simple to digest pop songs. Nothing new here.
>
>>like i said and I ain't stopping you done made Bill
>Oreilly,
>>the fox network and other Klan Members proud today with this
>>hating post you put up.
>>
>>be Proud of yourself and a tip of the cap.
>>
>>we are dealing with 9-11-01 ten years later and all you can
>do
>>is put down two Brothers to make yourself feel good about
>>music that you prefer more? now that is rich!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Wasn't you just in that Van Hunt post the other day putting
>that brother down?
>
>Come on maxxx... do better.
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you weren't a DJ down south and i was a kid back in the day and quite a few of us jammed to Lionel RIchie in the hood. we liked everybody almost that was happening back then. i use to run house partys and I played thriller all night for grown folks and we partied the whole night off that one album plus Say,Say,Say and your point is?? 1)

oh all night long got much play and much love. dancing on the celing didn't get hardly much love, but it also didn't take away his greatness and his musical importance either. 2)

naw the old tactics because if you are going to call a Brother out then Prince gonna get called out as well musically as well, hiding behind the gernic revolution sound,etc.. and he got Alexender O'Neal almost 30 years later calling him out on his blackness but i ain't going there its too easy, i ain't never heard any member of the commodores or any other musical artist call Lionel Richie out like that in public at that?? 3)

Prince made alot of wonder bread tracks himself Arms of Orion, u got the look, lets go crazy, paisley park, raspberry berry beret, graffti bridge, but it doesn't take away from his importance,though its been many years since its been evident and IMO his music just doesn't hold up as well as lionel Richie's does, but Prince has his place musically and that can't be denied for what he did and he is still a great live performer. 4)

Van Hunt is a Never was and you know better than that, but then again you sing the praises of Ryan Leslie another WHO?? and mind you are talking about cats with no track record of hit songs. Van Hunt doesn't have one song anybody knows and i said he doesn't have half the career of Omarion now what did i say so wrong there again?

i never questioned Van Hunt's blackness i said and maintain he is a Broke Lenny Kravitz and I stand by that.

you on the other hand are trying to hate on a Brother because he was successful in his field.

and mind you Lionel never changed. three times a lady, still, sail on, ole fashion love, lucy, easy, just to be close to you, high on sunshine, heroes are all looking at you sideways and crazy.

and hating on Jeffrey Osbourne? Mayne Please. i knew black folks who got married off "on the wings of love" and Jeffrey never crossed over.

this is self laothing on your part musically and just wrong.

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Maxxx you're full of shit and you know it. Everything you posting in here is on some "look the other way" shit. You go into threads and shit all over the subject time and time again but then get offended if someone says anything against these cats you revere.

You a good brother but you just been on one with this Lionel mess lately... it was way past time you got a taste of truth.

You know damn well Prince had the ear of Young Black America... Lionel was that dude your granny bought you for Christmas. His whole act was aimed right at 80s Regan America...... if you want to maintain any sort of credibility you need to stop trying to rip Prince down for selling out while at the same time riding for Casey Kasem's favorite act.


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yes they did love lionel down south and you weren't there and don't know as i wasn't out west and wasn't aware of the full scene there.

you forgot about Michael Joe Jackson who had the kids bumping to his music and then there was everybody else, get the historical facts straight becuase it was MJ that lead that wave.

Prince on the screen put it like that and he had songs where he purposely went for cross over and his band etc... all of his minneapolis crew said that long ago man,

bottom line I dug Lionel, Michael,Rick, Prince,Luther,El,Whitney,Janet,Anita, respect for sade and a few others but they were all about crossing over so if you are going to White Bread a couple then you gotta do the whole lot IMO.

i always said that unless your name was Frankie Beverly and Maze or Steve Arrington, then cross over wasn't in your rearview mirror.

you cool Peoples and One of my favorite cats, but your post and thread are wrong on alot of levels because all of our 80's Heroes pulled a Fonzi and jumped the shark and unlike back then and seeing what has happen in Hip-Hop and where music is now, ain't no need to trip because at the end of the day it is Pop Music.


Stevie did it, marvin did it, Smokey did, Kool and the gang, chaka, George Benson, Al Jarreau,Miles davis, Herbie Hancock, i can go on and on.

your way of thinking is stuck in a time warp in the context of even thinking like that in 2011, because nobody cares no more ecept folks holding a musical grudge and again Lionel Richie never changed who he was.

Brother Man worked for a Black Owned and ran company and nobody and I mean nobody knows more about Music making than Berry Gordy JR IMO and if he green lighted you that meant you had the goods period.

Black co Producer in James Anothony Carmichael

and I can go on. Lionel wasn't pigeonhold.

neither was Jeffrey Osbourne.

typical Hatin on cats having success and being diverse when it was there all along.

you can't even disupte the songs i mentioned by the commodores and you don't have a counter arugment against Heroes, still, three times a lady, sail on, easy all cut in the Ray Charles cloth of Country, Pop and R&B

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i'm trying real hard to even imagine breaking to 'All Night Long' and i just can't do it.

LOL

fuck you.

and Lionel Richie had us pop locking and bringing out the cardboard to All Night Long as we did to Billie Jean and Ollie and Jerry's Ain't no stoppin us" and other cuts.

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i don't remember ever in my life seeing anyone ever breakdance to 'All Night Long' outside of a music video. the idea is absurd.

lol

fuck you.

it had that middle groove where you could freestyle and we had battles off of it in the streets.

we loved that song back in the day. matter of fact the whole family loved some Lionel B Richie.just like Michael Jackson.

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sure.

fuck you.

back then we danced and pop locked to a whole lot of things, but all night long had a cool break and groove

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mm-hmm.

fuck you.

not everybody's hood was the same.

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fuck you.

People break dancing at the Forum while Lionel Richie sang "All Night Long"

of course, it won't really change my stance on the issue at hand. b/c maxxx and i are really talking about ppl breaking to 'All Night Long' in unorganized circumstances. you know, street dancing. not music videos or multi-media entertainment presentations as part of international sporting events.

fuck you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5UB4q6HApY

fuck you.

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than the other stuff he did with George Duke in that era

well, more than either, he's known for the "Woo Woo" Song

(again, unfortunately)

I love a lot of that album but that song was as beige as they come
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>I love a lot of that album but that song was as beige as they
>come

and that one was beiger than even Lionel Richie's music... like, as "dramatic" as they got, when "Hello" comes on, I might rewind the opening instrumental part.

of course it's entered the "ironic musical cue" lexicon so I can't do that in public no more

They all have 80s songs I liked but they were moving pretty far from the style/sound that made me a fan in the first place.

i mean he was never a threat at being a top tier solo artist.

he had a run, but he was never going to be that dude so he adapted to what kept a hit going for him. but it ain't like he was a top tier act to begin with.

Jeffrey Osbourne talented artist and he had a good formula and i dug his first two albums and his hits, nothing more and nothing less, he had a good journeyman career and great voice but lacked that next level it.

again even with LTD who were a high 3rd tier low 2nd tier band no real high expectations.

Lionel Richie always did his thing and never changed he came from the ray charles school of music making a gumbo of styles.

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>i mean he was never a threat at being a top tier solo
>artist.

The post was not about Peabo but he did come to mind as an artist whose 80s were much more beige than their 70s material.

>Jeffrey Osbourne talented artist and he had a good formula

I like Osbourne, his voice was/is great. I would probably rate his status as higher than a journeyman, especially if you count the LTD years, but he likely won't be on any all-time great lists.

>Lionel Richie always did his thing and never changed

I admit I have not really thought of Lionel emulating the Ray Charles aesthetic of being able to do any style and be very credible/successful with it. You may be onto something here.

In my opinion, Lionel, Ray Charles and even Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson all have corny or white bread songs ... but the thing about it is that I still felt (some of) them.

Peabo did basically the same album over and over in the 70s' let your feelings flow was a great R&B track and he had a few others, but he was basically a younger Lou Rawls type of cat that kept a few hits, but was never going to be the next level dude.

i mean he was never going to be Teddy Pendergrass and he wasn't going to be Luther Vandross, but he might give you a hint of both and yet stay in his lane.

oh I dig Jeffrey Osbourne and me saying a journeyman wasn't meant to be a diss its more about his placing in the history of R&B because Journeyman is like high 3rd tier.

he had hits and got a great voice, but he never connected on the personality front beyond a certain audience and LTD to me was a good Wine Cooler Band that had some good stuff, but nothing that is going to get them into a debate with lets say Brick, but more along the lines of the BT Express or Brass construction.


not enough memorable material there and his solo career hit at first and then dropped a bit and then hit a little bit but he was never a serious threat at being in that argument with other cats that were happening back then.

oh yeah Man, long ago by me living down south and also getting into Ray Charles early on in my life I knew what was up and I loved Ray's country material.

i mean he covered a wide range of styles and Ray IMO paid a price and is almost underrated and yet a national musical treasure that is hard to digest in one take, but it makes sense for the simple fact that folks dug him in various genries and yet he didn't dominate one particular time, yet he was respected in the various styles he went in.

fast forward to modern times and that is Lionel Richie because he hit the R&B with the Commodores and then Pop, and then Country with Kenny Rogers, and alabama then in between Jesus is love and he had gospel community respect, he had respect in the funk, R&B, Pop, country, Gospel worlds and the jazz world as well

another act who paid a price for being diverse.

yeah stevie wonder has that, Michael Jackson had that,. all those cats loved themselves some Ray Charles

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One person's corny white bread shit is another person's jam.

white bread = obvious cross-over fodder. it's usually relatively bland, when compared to other R&B music or other music made by R&B acts.

i like some white bread shit, myself. like Al Jarreau's 'Moonlighting Theme'.

fuck you.

>white bread = obvious cross-over fodder. it's usually
>relatively bland, when compared to other R&B music or other
>music made by R&B acts.
>
>i like some white bread shit, myself. like Al Jarreau's
>'Moonlighting Theme'.


Indeed (great point)...I like a few songs from "white-bread' era Phil Collins ("One More Night" and the like...)...

So like other folks are saying here, that's not even the issue...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

>white bread = obvious cross-over fodder. it's usually
>relatively bland, when compared to other R&B music or other
>music made by R&B acts.

Does making obvious attempts to cross mean that it's bad or poor quality? Thriller, Purple Rain...shit everything on Motown was created to sell to as many people as possible of all backgrounds so does that automatically make them white bread or bland?

>i like some white bread shit, myself. like Al Jarreau's
>'Moonlighting Theme'.

The reason I asked that question is because I think we can forget that mass amounts of Black folks can like some shit that other people might look at as corny or white bread. George Duke, Grover Washington...Smooth Jazz in general is big with a ton of Black audiences so I question the validity of calling this stuff white bread simply because it's not gritty.

>Does making obvious attempts to cross mean that it's bad or
>poor quality?

no.

>The reason I asked that question is because I think we can
>forget that mass amounts of Black folks can like some shit
>that other people might look at as corny or white bread.
>George Duke, Grover Washington...Smooth Jazz in general is big
>with a ton of Black audiences so I question the validity of
>calling this stuff white bread simply because it's not gritty.

'white bread' does not necessarily mean 'bad' or 'poor quality'. it's a descriptor. to say that Lionel's music was white bread doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. it just is what it is. white bread. a lot of ppl love white bread.

fuck you.

everybody knows that. its another veiled attempted to diss Lionel Richie and again nobody can counter and say he didn't always keep a set formula to his songwriting and music making from his days with the commodores.

Sail On, truly, stuck on you, deep river woman covers a whole decade of the R&B Meets Country and Pop theme.

haters can't dispute and have no counter argument except they just don't respect his Greatness and diversity and they refuse to acknowledge him being from the Ray charles school of music making. just as Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson were from.

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>everybody knows that. its another veiled attempted to diss
>Lionel Richie

you obviously love Lionel's music more than many of us around here. that's the end of it, guy. there's nothing else going on.

your praise for the guy's music hasn't increased my appreciation of it. i still hear the same stuff in his music that i heard in the 80s and that i heard last month before you started this tirade.

but, good luck w/it!

fuck you.