And by career I mean the whole experience... not just catalog or filmography.

Poll result (47 votes) LL (2 votes) Vote Snoop (6 votes) Vote Jay-Z (18 votes) Vote Dr Dre (2 votes) Vote Will Smith (8 votes) Vote Other (11 votes) Vote

Dude just might be the most beloved hip hop figure ever.... plus his life looks a lot more fun than the other people on this list. He may not have the ends of a Will or Jay but he also has a sort of freedom that I find much more attractive than an obscene amount of money.
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(Since you said to factor in the whole experience).

Even though he beat it, that could NOT have been pleasant to go through. FActoring that in, I'd go with Jay-Z or Will Smith. Probably Jay.

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still he beat it... everyone goes through some dark period in there lives. When you come out the other side you're usually better for it.
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I mean he still has respect and ppl checking his new music but at the same time he's able to do commercials, bad movies and pop collabs with very little repercussions. He's created this weird lane now where he's able to keep ppl interested but at the same doesn't make anything too amazing so that he has ppl disappointed when the next album ain't as good.

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He's probably still in possession of his soul!!!

>He's probably still in possession of his soul!!!

He might be a crackhead.

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wiled out while he was young - got his shine and is still relevant with minor output.

has the type of life i'd probably want going into my 40s. a quiet life in the studio, having people write his lyrics, Dr.Pepper/Monster/HP easy sponsor money, and driving Ferraris. and people STILL waiting on The Chronic 3.

the rest are a little too exposed for my tastes.

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I'd rather go the movie route, and be insanely famous.

More money than all those guys save Will but with a strong musical legacy both critically & commercially that might end up being the longest run of relevance in the genre's history.

Plus Beyonce ain't bad.

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if so, i would go with hov.

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Just the idea of being married to someone that famous wouldn't appeal to me at all... the fact she's dead behind the eyes isn't even coming into play yet.
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but jay-z is just as famous so i think it works.

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from what i've seen of snoop's wife I think I could roll with that
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while being a major rap star for 12 years by the time he decided to get married, a mate that was on 'his level' who didn't need his money & had her own career going that understood the demands of his could possibly be more 'real' then him scooping a round-the-way girl.

Snoop has almost been in divorce proceedings as many times as years he's been married, publically flaunts his infidelity, & put his wife on a reality-show shot in his home(we have no idea what B/Jay are like behind closed doors, we barely even got acknowledgement they were a couple for their first few years).

I see no reason to believe that's so much more 'real' than what Jay & B have.

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>Snoop has almost been in divorce proceedings as many times as
>years he's been married, publically flaunts his infidelity, &
>put his wife on a reality-show shot in his home(we have no
>idea what B/Jay are like behind closed doors, we barely even
>got acknowledgement they were a couple for their first few
>years)

sounds good to me

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I'll pass on that.

If his wife is cool with him fucking other people that's their business, though like most I doubt she is & that's probably part of the reason for their public drama.

I just find it odd that you've designated that one as 'real' & marrying Beyonce as not.

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at least publically, so I'm not sure where you got "as many near-divorces as years married" or whatever you said above. There's only been one "divorce" story with them over the years, which was early 00's.

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then yeah that's the type of chick I'd want in my corner. I asked who's career would you want up to this point.... nobody is saying I'd be treating her like shit. But the fact she's been through all that shit with dude and it still around tells me a lot.
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are quite different

besides.... why does it matter to you which type of woman I prefer? There isn't a right or wrong answer here... just opinions.
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of a woman who puts up with rampant infidelity as being a sign of a 'down-ass chick'.

A lot of times it's the opposite.

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is it a stretch to say she's be down if she only had to put up with a fraction of it? With B there is no real track record so you don't know what she would or wouldn't do. But on top of all that I'd rather be married a woman like Shante than B... and looks are part of it. Not saying Shante is better looking but she has a look I'm more comfortable with.
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>is it a stretch to say she's be down if she only had to put
>up with a fraction of it?

huh?

>With B there is no real track record
>so you don't know what she would or wouldn't do.
or you could just wait to get married until you've fully explored your options then marry a girl you might not habitually cheat on.

>But on top of
>all that I'd rather be married a woman like Shante than B...
>and looks are part of it. Not saying Shante is better looking
>but she has a look I'm more comfortable with.
>
I'll just agree to vehemently disagree on the looks part.

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>I'll just agree to vehemently disagree on the looks part.

I said she has a look I'd be more comfortable with for a wife and mother of my children.... how you gonna disagree on what I like for me? lol
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>>I'll just agree to vehemently disagree on the looks part.
>
>I said she has a look I'd be more comfortable with for a wife
>and mother of my children.... how you gonna disagree on what I
>like for me? lol
>

Haha, I wasn't speaking for you I was speaking for me there, apologies for any confusion but this dialogue prolly devloved into 'Lil Wayne is cute' territory 3/4 replies ago so we can prolly leave it here. peace.

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> but this dialogue prolly devloved
>into 'Lil Wayne is cute' territory 3/4 replies ago so we can
>prolly leave it here. peace.

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or Snoops wife beyond what you see on TV.

Are you basing Snoops wifes 'realness' on her appearing on that reality show?

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>she goes back a ways with dude and just seems like a down ass
>sister to me
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Her look is far more "real" than someone that is considered a world wide star. I mean you really don't have any more info on Beyonce other than what you're seen on TV either. I'm just telling you what my preference is... you don't have to agree.
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Your hate is strong, sir....lol

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

Just saying if I had my own ends like everyone else on this list, I wouldn't want to be married to her
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musically together it is a bad joke and it just makes a "IN" thing as to bringing anything memorable to the table.

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I hear that song at least once a week all summer on the radio. He created a classic rap song on par with "Baby Got Back". Not many rappers can claim that. Not even Jay-Z. OK, I might have to go with Will on this one.

Beyonce is fine as hell, but Jada ain't no straggler either. Jada is a little bit too skinny now. She needs about 10 pounds selectively placed and she would be much hotter.

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I hardly hear about any drama going on in his life plus he's got a great catalog of music, got a steady gig/job, loved by all Roots fans, so yeah Blackthought would be my pick.

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black thought is at the perfect level of famous. a lot of people knows who he is but he can probably walk down the street without people following him around and whatnot.

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or through the crowd at his own show

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he has the history, longevity, still relevant, made all the right moves, married an equal counterpart to match his assets

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But Jay-Z has also lost a lot of his friends and people he came up with over the years, and he's sacrificed those relationships in order to get where he's at. To a lot of people, having that success isn't completely worth it if you have to kill so many of your most valued relationships.

But then again, with how he did it, maybe Jay doesn't value those relationships at all anyway. *shrugs*

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Or anybody else with a small but strong, consistent fan base.

Just enough for me to live comfortably and go about my business without losing the ability to go to 7-11 and cop a 4 Loko.

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I wouldn't want to be excessively famous, I'd just want to be able to live my life and happen to be famous because of how I describe it to people. Devin the Dude is another option.


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>I wouldn't want to be excessively famous, I'd just want to be
>able to live my life and happen to be famous because of how I
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i respect the other cats in different ways, but LL and it ain't even close.

LL is the only other cat on that list that did pretty much kinda close to what Will smith did.

LL hit in Music, Tv and Film.

LL truly kept a career counting for a really long time.

LL mattered in the 80's and 90's and a wink in the 00's.

LL could switch up his game and then counter you in other ways.

LL worked with a whose who and just stayed cool with his.

his book was a trip as well.


what i dug about LL is that he stayed in his lane and the trip out thing it was only late in his career did he do colabs and even a Mix tape.

LL was around during the golden era of Hip-Hop and he dealt with the changes and he still kept a hit and stayed in his lane.

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He's beloved by nearly every demographic on the damn planet...He can appear onstage on some shady, gang infested, dangerous club from Chicago to Long Beach to Atlanta to Brooklyn and then drop by on the View for an interview with Barbara Walters, appear at a college homecoming event and have Drake-loving 19-year-olds screaming S-N-O-O-O-P....And then be invited to Prince William's bachelor party...And hate will NEVER be involved....

This^^^ is some other shit....

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definitely Snoop...

he looks like he is having the most fun out of all of them.

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where they are.

Unfortunately, it seems like they all put in a good amount of blood, sweat and tears.

So.... Jarobi.

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for all the reasons Murph and OldPro (and their co-signers) mentioned above. Also, it can't be overstated how amazing it would be to be the guy who made Doggystyle. One of the best rap albums ever assembled, being the name on the cover would be nice. Not to mention that being a part of those wild ass Death Row studio sessions and subsequent parties back in their heyday would be something for the ages.

So yea, Snoop.

Second would be Dre because of what someone else mentioned above, he's just able to chill out right now and do next to nothing and he's still making mad money and has this myth and reputation about him. That'd be nice.

But Snoop has more fun that's why he gets the edge.

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He got more cake than any of them. I would go with Jay next, being top 3 emcee of all time is appealing, and so is Beyonce.

Will also has the most longevity out of all of them, he could be acting/producing/directing until he lays down on his deathbed if he wants. Jada's not bad either.

And I'm sure he has a lot of fun, too.

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Who better to emulate for that than Nas.

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Nas or Black Thought have probably done the best without lowering there personal standards or making music they don't like.

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I'll take Jay-Z or LL ....not even close after that

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all his kids are set with their own shit going on.

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They have an open relationship anyway, so I'm sure Will is still smashing dimes whenever he wants.

Who the hell would anyone see that as a bad thing?

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>Who the hell would anyone see that as a bad thing?

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hell I've done better without Will's money. Jada too manly for my tastes.... plus I like lips on my women.

And no way would I want to have kids looking and acting like that with my name.

Will's whole family situation is pretty unattractive to me.
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Came to vote drake (Lol), but I miight have to go will smith. Getting a sex scene with eva mendes??11. I'd a knocked out the park. Sorry jada

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successful with two different groups.

legendary solo career

film, tv and a nice little run with his boutique label.

commericals as well.

funny how folks love him know whereas 15-20 years ago he was hated and had some folks heated??

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has earned over $100 mil in his career
he is famous but not really
so he gets all the perks but has no paparazzi level shit going on like kanye and jay
he also basically developed his own lane and became something more than a producer
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It's probably his 2nd or 3rd.

Longevity.

Snoop on the surface, but lets look closer he was suppose to be the man at death row and then what? Suge while digging Snoop's talent saw a bigger superstar in 2Pac.

Snoop was forced into being the Steve Deburg on Death Row records. "L"

they next up going to No limit and truly out of pocket and out of his element, while it produced a decent 2nd album there he just got handed like a sack of grocerys to No Limit and Master P "L"

they on to Star trek with pharell and Chad and it was cute tracks and staying in his lane, but again while his voice and vibe is cool, Snoop never got where he was suppose to go. he went from Starting to being a Bride's maid and never got back.

yeah he is marketable but at what cost?

Jay Z rides with whomever and whoever and being attached to Beyonce in a Sonny and Cher thang got old on the creativity and he just seems to be riding coattails and seems bored out of his mind.

what has he done really? he is smart enough to appear alot of cleaver and Sauve than he actually is IMO. nothing stands out really in his career aside from the fact he has been able to ride it out.

Will Smith,LL and Dr.Dre because they found a way to keep it moving and still have there place in a very tough industry, they truly re-invented there careers,etc..

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>Snoop was forced into being the Steve Deburg on Death Row
>records. "L"

No maxxx didn't just drop a Montana/DeBerg reference lol

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