the main sample in Shook Ones is Thackeray Meets Faculty, Then Alone by Ron Grainer
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7. "believe what you want, but that's not it" In response to Reply # 6
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9. "I know it's the sample, I was trying to see who'd go for it" In response to Reply # 8
like I did when I made up the name of a song Dilla chopped and this dude actually went looking for it LOL at least the song I named sounds like it could be it this time
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11. "I have that record so I've come across it before" In response to Reply # 10
I wasn't really paying attention to it at first but I had it on repeat and when I came back around with it I heard it clear
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15. "Actually, the process comes from playing records at different speeds" In response to Reply # 10
Technically yeah, it's shifting pitch, but it's all about playing 45's at 33 or 16, LP's at 45's, shifting the balance to left or right to isolate drums, bass lines, or whatever. Lo-fi pitch shifting.
They did that with a keymap....playing snippets on different pitches.
You can't just pitch down the 'Jessica' and get the sound.
There's three different semitones being used to trigger the samples. They're triggering them with a keyboard that's been mapped out with speed and pitch reference.
18. "there's still a few out there" In response to Reply # 14
I'd love to know what PR used for Melody Adonis, or what Primo used for Monotony
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28. "first one is the next to last song" In response to Reply # 21
on Phife's solo album, last one is off Afu-Ra's first album the song with Primo cutting Jeru saying 'Knowledge, wisdon, understanding' back and forth
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29. "I think Quest knows what it is but he never said it tho" In response to Reply # 24
he did say he thinks it's Primo's best sample flip, so I'd hope he knows the source if he'd say that
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16. "damn, this and the ice cream sample...amazing" In response to Reply # 0
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39. "Nas is like was HYSTERICAL to me" In response to Reply # 22
That's some DJ shit...ANYBODY ELSE who got/saw that kind of record would have NEVER listened to it...but we'd at least play it just to scratch it or find something to use on it.
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38. "same as the original " In response to Reply # 31 Sun Mar-20-11 03:48 PM by Garhart Poppwell
Puff just took the horn and filtered and pitched it but Mo Bee is pretty tightlipped about it tho
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68. "I Want To Say It's An Johnny Guitar Watson Sample..." In response to Reply # 38
slowed down to half the speed cause I remember going thru a few JGW albums in '98/'99 an making a few dope beats from 'em and while doing so I remember hearing one part that sounded just like the "Flavor In Ya Ear" song but I could be wrong.
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50. "I completely forgot that the OG "Flava..." has the same beat as the remi..." In response to Reply # 48
And no, I don't know the sample.
That and "Crooklyn Dodgers" seem to be at the top of most peoples' want lists. As Garhart said, Easy Mo Bee takes pride in that sample....I think I remember reading an interview where he laughs and says that he's not ready to reveal it. That was years ago.
33. "while we Hamsterdamming it, what's 'Old To The New' by Freeway" In response to Reply # 0
not knowing that shit is, is pissing me right off... because I should
I've got a good number of songs on that record except "The Beat Made Me Do It", "If I (or whatever it's called)" and some others that follow the Raydio loop
45. "it is..made a big post of it a few years ago...he pitched the sample up" In response to Reply # 44
and down he just took a note and triggered it he mentioned it on that complex blog or some site about his greatest beats
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47. "you remind me is the name of it" In response to Reply # 45
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62. "I remember that post." In response to Reply # 47
I took damn near every rhodes stab from that joint n pitched it up down and sideways and never heard it. I'm surprised he spoke on it. He was always tight-lipped about the source cuz it wasn't cleared.
51. "This and the "Ice Cream" sample have me confused." In response to Reply # 0
I mean, we're talking about fucking EARL KLUGH and HERBIE HANCOCK records. People were really overestimating how deep RZA and Havoc were digging (LOL Ron Grainer LOL). Then you have the idiots over on SoulStrut who are spewing shit like:
"People still care about finding samples?" "I'm curious as to why this is important."
and my favorite....
"Cool. I'm not surprised at all that it's Herbie Hancock."
Unless he was being facetious, EVERYONE should be surprised that it's goddamn Herbie Hancock. While I don't own that VSOP Quintet 2LP, I've seen it multiple times and I'm sure tons of beat heads own it. How a record that common (and don't get me started on the Earl Klugh) could be overlooked for 16 years is beyond me.
>"Cool. I'm not surprised at all that it's Herbie Hancock." > >Unless he was being facetious, EVERYONE should be surprised >that it's goddamn Herbie Hancock. While I don't own that VSOP >Quintet 2LP, I've seen it multiple times and I'm sure tons of >beat heads own it. How a record that common (and don't get me >started on the Earl Klugh) could be overlooked for 16 years is >beyond me.
Exactly, jabronis got caught up in it being some super obscure shit that they were looking in the bottom of the bin
I really am surprised that it's Herbie, I wouldn't have guessed it, just by that listen and I'm good for picking up a sample that's been downpitched (see: MF DOOM and "Rain Blood")
57. "People thought RZA was flipping Chinese mandolin private press LPs." In response to Reply # 55
>Exactly, jabronis got caught up in it being some super obscure >shit that they were looking in the bottom of the bin
On the other hand, the "Nas Is Like..." sample really IS some ultra-obscure nutso shit, so I can't blame people for trying to force their brains into believing that "Theray vs. Faculty" was Havoc's secret weapon.
Premier's a really interesting guy when it comes to samples, by the way. I almost made a post about his style a few weeks ago. Turning the last two seconds of Weather Report's 8-minute-plus "Cucumber Slumber" into the Jeru beat on "Speak Ya Clout????" Insane.
For a while, I was under the impression that Primo mainly took whatever was available in the first five seconds of a song (see: "The Shit Is Real" remix, "Return Of The Crooklyn Dodgers," "Rite Where U Stand," and "You Know My Steez"). Over the past two years, I've been proven wrong. Very wrong.
>For a while, I was under the impression that Primo mainly took >whatever was available in the first five seconds of a song >(see: "The Shit Is Real" remix, "Return Of The Crooklyn >Dodgers," "Rite Where U Stand," and "You Know My Steez"). >Over the past two years, I've been proven wrong. Very wrong.
about doing that for beats intended for Jeru (see: "Can't Stop The Prophet"). I was just casually listening to some music, and then at the very end of the song... the break.
Premier really showed his Prairie View side with that song and "Da Bichez"
60. "i nearly pissed myself the first time i heard that." In response to Reply # 58
>about doing that for beats intended for Jeru (see: "Can't Stop >The Prophet"). I was just casually listening to some music, >and then at the very end of the song... the break.
that's one of those albums that my father used to play when i was a kid...and oddly enough one of the few Crusaders albums i never got around to buying. my homie had the album and i just happened to throw it on one day and...*jaw drops*.
i guess it goes without saying that my father ALSO used to play that VSOP album alot too. LOL. i didn't dig it at the time either.
>Premier really showed his Prairie View side with that song and >"Da Bichez"
since i'm in snitch mode anyway...YUP! another Crusaders sample. however, i *did* recognize this one when i heard Jeru's song. i thought it was brilliant.
since we're talking Crusaders, how ill was Queen Latifah's "U.N.I.T.Y."???!!
59. "did you sample it at 33 speed or 45 speed" In response to Reply # 56
the vsop or the rotunda lp version
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76. "rapradar is up on it now" In response to Reply # 0
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